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camertone
15-06-2016, 03:02 PM
I think Orlando Gay Massacre should've been mentioned on BBOTS!? 
Ryland could have spared 30 sec on the issue, as he is gay man and BBUK have a vast gay following. Shame, really..
Firewire
15-06-2016, 03:02 PM
It's got nothing to do with BOTS though
*mazedsalv**
15-06-2016, 03:08 PM
It was a terrible tragedy OBVIOUSLY.
But why would they? Did X Factor live shows do that when the Paris attacks happen? Did any other shows do that when anything else happened in the world? Just like they wouldn't if something happened here. I really doubt they mentioned the London Bombings in a BBUSA on a live show.
Wizard.
15-06-2016, 03:12 PM
It's not really relevant and would actually make them look disrespectful and as a way of using it for the show is kinda nasty, something I'm surprised they didnt do tbh
camertone
15-06-2016, 03:12 PM
It's got nothing to do with BOTS though
When Michael Jackson died, BB let housemates know, even though it had nothing to do with the show. So..
BBOTS is full of empty ramblings with nothing at all, 30 sec mention is not hard to do, BBOTS has a gay host, big gay following, and BBUK2016 has many gay housemates this year. So..
Livia
15-06-2016, 03:13 PM
I think Orlando Gay Massacre should've been mentioned on BBOTS!? 
Ryland could have spared 30 sec on the issue, as he is gay man and BBUK have a vast gay following. Shame, really..
No.
Will.
15-06-2016, 03:13 PM
oh
Headie
15-06-2016, 03:13 PM
It was a terrible tragedy OBVIOUSLY.
But why would they? Did X Factor live shows do that when the Paris attacks happen? Did any other shows do that when anything else happened in the world? Just like they wouldn't if something happened here. I really doubt they mentioned the London Bombings in a BBUSA on a live show.
Tbf they kinda did by changing two of the songs that had reference to guns in them
But I agree with you that it's not really necessary to mention it on BOTS.
Did X Factor live shows do that when the Paris attacks happen?
Yes, they did
*mazedsalv**
15-06-2016, 03:14 PM
When Michael Jackson died, BB let housemates know, even though it had nothing to do with the show. So..
BBOTS is full of empty ramblings with nothing at all, 30 sec mention is not hard to do, BBOTS has a gay host, big gay following, and BBUK2016 has many gay housemates this year. So..
The reason that they had to tell them MJ died was because Federico went in and said it to Noirin. To which Noirin had to go into the DR to ask BB whether she was allowed. BB said that now Noirin knows, she may as well tell the others.
Well no because Rylan isn't the spokesperson for the whole of the gay community?
camertone
15-06-2016, 03:14 PM
It's not really relevant and would actually make them look disrespectful and as a way of using it for the show is kinda nasty, something I'm surprised they didnt do tbh
Tony Awards mentioned it, many many shows mentioned it, and it was very very respectful.
Tom4784
15-06-2016, 03:16 PM
It might have looked oportunistic on BOTS' part tbh.
*mazedsalv**
15-06-2016, 03:17 PM
If they had to mention everything that happened in the world, they'd be doing it continuously every single show. 
As I said, I doubt the London bombings were mentioned by Julie Bot during BB? In theory, BBUSA6 started on 7th July, did they mention it on BB6 Launch? (going by timezones, BBUSA6 would have started like 3 hours after the news broke out.
camertone
15-06-2016, 03:19 PM
It might have looked oportunistic on BOTS' part tbh.
yea, i personally think that they should have taken the opportunity and use it for good. and create awareness of homophobia and gun control. it all depend on the intent. i say it's missed opportunity.
Let's be honest a show that has Tiffany waving dildos around would hardly be the appropriate place to bring it up really would it?
Garfie
15-06-2016, 03:22 PM
It might have looked oportunistic on BOTS' part tbh.
Agree- it might have appeared it was being trivialised being mentioned on a show like BBots.
camertone
15-06-2016, 03:23 PM
Yes, they did
Yep.
ThriceShy
15-06-2016, 03:25 PM
I think Orlando Gay Massacre should've been mentioned on BBOTS!? 
Ryland could have spared 30 sec on the issue, as he is gay man and BBUK have a vast gay following. Shame, really..
Are you calling it a gay massacre because the shooter was gay?
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639961/Orlando-terrorist-went-gay-club-Pulse-dozen-times-got-drunk-belligerent-talked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html
Jordan.
15-06-2016, 03:28 PM
yea, i personally think that they should have taken the opportunity and use it for good. and create awareness of homophobia and gun control. it all depend on the intent. i say it's missed opportunity.
I'm sure people are aware of those problems without a mention on a trashy spin off show
fitz2k2
15-06-2016, 03:29 PM
someone close this thread.bbots is not cnn news station.
camertone
15-06-2016, 03:35 PM
If they had to mention everything that happened in the world, they'd be doing it continuously every single show. 
As I said, I doubt the London bombings were mentioned by Julie Bot during BB? In theory, BBUSA6 started on 7th July, did they mention it on BB6 Launch? (going by timezones, BBUSA6 would have started like 3 hours after the news broke out.
Actually many shows in USA mentioned it afterwards.. and it was nice and respectful.. Paris attack mentioned on X-factor. BBUSA was prerecorded and next episode aired like 5 days later. Dunno if it was mentioned later. I am not saying everything should be mentioned. Then again BBUK producers seem to fail even the most basic tasks lately, so it is maybe wrong to expect anything good or of substance from them.
Are you calling it a gay massacre because the shooter was gay?
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639961/Orlando-terrorist-went-gay-club-Pulse-dozen-times-got-drunk-belligerent-talked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html
No, they called it a gay massacre because 49+ people were massacred in a gay club
Go back to Serious Debates
sampvt
15-06-2016, 03:43 PM
No, they called it a gay massacre because 49+ people were massacred in a gay club
Go back to Serious Debates
Why are you getting so fickle. It wasn't a terrorist attack, according to the clubs owners and patrons, it was one of their own gay customers who flipped out and took revenge on his own. This is a mass murder by a person clearly uncovered as a homosexual. It does not warrant mentions on a gay show or even one that is run by gay people, its a human interest story that has tragic undertones.
I forgot gay people can't be terrorists, thanks for the reminder Sam!
sampvt
15-06-2016, 03:49 PM
I forgot gay people can't be terrorists, thanks for the reminder Sam!
And I forgot that terrorists cant be gays can they,
Pete.
15-06-2016, 04:09 PM
Queen of Gays Michelle Visage should make  a statement
Crimson Dynamo
15-06-2016, 04:12 PM
I think Orlando Gay Massacre should've been mentioned on BBOTS!? 
Ryland could have spared 30 sec on the issue, as he is gay man and BBUK have a vast gay following. Shame, really..
why?
Crimson Dynamo
15-06-2016, 04:14 PM
yea, i personally think that they should have taken the opportunity and use it for good. and create awareness of homophobia and gun control. it all depend on the intent. i say it's missed opportunity.
what on earth?
 "and create awareness of homophobia and gun control. "
:umm2:
I miss when TV used to mainly be about entertainment.
Shaun
15-06-2016, 05:15 PM
I forgot gay people can't be terrorists, thanks for the reminder Sam!
https://thenormcanconform.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/icon-richard-newman.jpg
Don't bring that monster into a civilised discussion about murderers :nono:
Crimson Dynamo
15-06-2016, 05:48 PM
https://thenormcanconform.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/icon-richard-newman.jpg
His hand looks like a blacked-up Kermit :omgno:
What kind of racism..?
Glenn.
15-06-2016, 05:58 PM
Who is Ryland?
camertone
15-06-2016, 06:19 PM
Why are you getting so fickle. It wasn't a terrorist attack, according to the clubs owners and patrons, it was one of their own gay customers who flipped out and took revenge on his own. This is a mass murder by a person clearly uncovered as a homosexual. It does not warrant mentions on a gay show or even one that is run by gay people, its a human interest story that has tragic undertones.
according to american government, witnesses, and intelligent agencies, it was categorized officially a terrorist attack and mass murder. please get informed and educated.
camertone
15-06-2016, 06:22 PM
https://thenormcanconform.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/icon-richard-newman.jpg
Yep.
sampvt
15-06-2016, 06:24 PM
according to american government, witnesses, and intelligent agencies, it was categorized officially a terrorist attack and mass murder. please get informed and educated.
No it wasn't, please keep up and stop getting personal, Im very well educated with degrees. Don't shout at me because I don't wear a rainbow flag and mince when I walk. It was a mass murder by a gay guy who wasn't a terrorist, he was working as a security guard FFS. Please keep up dear.
camertone
15-06-2016, 06:25 PM
I forgot gay people can't be terrorists, thanks for the reminder Sam!
lol.
sampvt
15-06-2016, 06:25 PM
lol.
Obviously you hate straights, I get it, sorry, should have known
camertone
15-06-2016, 06:27 PM
No it wasn't, please keep up and stop getting personal, Im very well educated with degrees. Don't shout at me because I don't wear a rainbow flag and mince when I walk. It was a mass murder by a gay guy who wasn't a terrorist, he was working as a security guard FFS. Please keep up dear.
ISIS is not a terrorist organization, then.. how fickle..
and please don't insult gays and homophobic rants are not tolerated here..
sampvt
15-06-2016, 06:30 PM
ISIS is not a terrorist organization, then.. how fickle..
and please don't insult gays and homophobic rants are not tolerated here..
Im not insulting gays, you are dragging them down with your stupidity, please drop the chip, its old school
Crimson Dynamo
15-06-2016, 06:36 PM
the answer to your question OP seems to be 
NO
camertone
15-06-2016, 06:37 PM
ISIS is not a terrorist organization, then.. how fickle..
and please don't insult gays and homophobic rants are not tolerated here..
i don't mince when i walk..
homophobic rants are not tolerated here..
Im not insulting gays, you are dragging them down with your stupidity, please drop the chip, its old school
As one of "them", no, they aren't
If anyone is, it's you
If you read/follow all the coverage in the US, it can understand why sampvt would say it's more of a personal issue than a terroristic act.
He used ISIS as a cover for what was ultimately a cowardly and disturbed act of mass violence. Remove ISIS and the Muslim connections, and we would just be reading stories about another mentally ill man who got a hold of weapons.
In fact, most terrorism is cowardice justified by politics.
Anyone who intentionally uses terror to try and put their message across is a terrorist, regardless of whether they sleep with dudes or not
sampvt
15-06-2016, 06:41 PM
As one of "them", no, they aren't
If anyone is, it's you
Whoops reinforcements have arrived......:dog: ......me gone
Crimson Dynamo
15-06-2016, 06:42 PM
but still it would have been ridiculous for it to be on BOTS
Mawkish claptrap
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2016, 06:45 PM
I think Orlando Gay Massacre should've been mentioned on BBOTS!? 
Ryland could have spared 30 sec on the issue, as he is gay man and BBUK have a vast gay following. Shame, really..
WTF should it have mentioned on BOTS ? No other massacre gets a mention on there, this ones no different
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2016, 06:46 PM
No it wasn't, please keep up and stop getting personal, Im very well educated with degrees. Don't shout at me because I don't wear a rainbow flag and mince when I walk. It was a mass murder by a gay guy who wasn't a terrorist, he was working as a security guard FFS. Please keep up dear.
All true ,but some people only read the red tops, and why is this thread in here ? nothing to do with BB
wendywillow
15-06-2016, 06:49 PM
All true ,but some people only read the red tops, and why is this thread in here ? nothing to do with BB
this. a silly/stupid tv show and real life should be separate
sampvt
15-06-2016, 06:51 PM
Im wondering why the mods have not removed it, surely it wouldn't upset anyone. It has no place here and its being used for homophobic issues which never bodes well on here
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2016, 06:52 PM
Im wondering why the mods have not removed it, surely it wouldn't upset anyone. It has no place here and its being used for homophobic issues which never bodes well on here
This is the BB  forum ,not a dating site, this thread should be moved Mods
We have a thread about this in our serious debates section, please feel free to discuss this there
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302359
This is the BB  forum ,not a dating site, this thread should be moved Mods
Report it in future then or pm a mod
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