Furious Endemol have had a meeting with C5 today

[*mazedsalv**]

On Twitter and Oathy (a regular in feed campaign) was involved in the tweets

Basically Endemol are furious at the lack of coverage from C5 providing us for this series. I hear it was not a very pleasant meeting going by rumours :shocked:

The reason we have gotten more videos on the site and some tweets ?

[Will.]

welp

[Cal.]

Yaaass

[Vanessa]

We should have had tweets and regular clips from the start. Surely that isn't too expensive to do? :nono:

[MB.]

Kween Endemol

[Rob!]

OOOOOH

[Rob!]

Can you link to the tweets?

[Jordan.]

Endemol better drag ha

[Headie]

Endemol @ Channel 5

http://66.media.tumblr.com/150ceeb74f684cda0420160294e38d39/tumblr_o8tcx0PAFv1v9roxto1_400.gif

[Pete.]

Maybe this will be where Channel 5 negotiate axing BB imo

[Greg!]

Oop that's probably why they've started doing the live tweets again

[Cal.]

Endemol better drag

[Marsh.]

I'd be all for endemol but they've produced a sh*te show this year regardless of its coverage.

[*mazedsalv**]

This better mean something.

Endemol ruin them!

[sampvt]

sack the prods

[BBDodge]

I'd be all for endemol but they've produced a sh*te show this year regardless of its coverage.

Yes, the 2nd house twist has been a catalogue of disasters.

[Jamesy]

A meeting that will result in any improvements though?

I mean, some tweets and 2 or 3 extra videos a day hardly makes up for the fact a 45 minute highlight show is all we get.

[Cal.]

Apparently some live feed and 'TV updates' are being looked at?

(But don't get your hopes up they said live feed was being looked at last year and then finally said that they wouldn't be giving a live feed unless there was 5 million viewers a night for the highlight shows)

[Firewire]

Who is Oathy and why is he important?

[Vanessa]

Scalp them! :fist:

[Greg!]

I'm glad Endemol are standing up for what fans want :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the updates and vids have been shocking tbh

[*mazedsalv**]

From Oathy. Big conversation on Twitter. Follow it!

@glastoeve @LJay815 my understanding from endemol was. Live feed (tweets) and TV were being spoken about.

[Vanessa]

Apparently some live feed and 'TV updates' are being looked at?

(But don't get your hopes up they said live feed was being looked at last year and then finally said that they wouldn't be giving a live feed unless there was 5 million viewers a night for the highlight shows)

They're crazy. Even Cbb doesn't get that much and it always does well :crazy:

[Cal.]

Who is Oathy and why is he important?

He's been badgering Ben Frow and other people involved with BB for live feed ever since BB12 I think

[*mazedsalv**]

Who is Oathy and why is he important?

He's always been on talking terms of some of C5 people

[Marsh.]

Live feed (tweets)

:joker:

Is nobody going to point out that tweets are not live feed.

[Cal.]

He says TV afterwards you silly cah

[*mazedsalv**]

:joker:

Is nobody going to point out that tweets are not live feed.



He then put and Live Feed on TV

[Marsh.]

Apparently some live feed and 'TV updates' are being looked at?

(But don't get your hopes up they said live feed was being looked at last year and then finally said that they wouldn't be giving a live feed unless there was 5 million viewers a night for the highlight shows)

5 million :joker:

If they want a decent audience at all they need to make a fecking better show. Not use the small audience as an excuse for why the show is sh*te.

[Drew.]

That explains the sudden live feed tweets we've been getting

[y.winter]

The beginning of the end?

[Marsh.]

The beginning of the end?

:fc:

[Greg!]

The beginning of the end?

Nah just the beginning of live tweets happening again

[VanessaFeltz.]

Apparently some live feed and 'TV updates' are being looked at?

(But don't get your hopes up they said live feed was being looked at last year and then finally said that they wouldn't be giving a live feed unless there was 5 million viewers a night for the highlight shows)

Honesty what a stupid bitch he is.

Last time bb was getting that amount was probably 2006

[Marsh.]

Honesty what a stupid bitch he is.

Last time bb was getting that amount was probably 2006

He really is deluded. BB hasn't averaged 5 million since 2004.

[T*]

Endemol whipping channel 5 into shape :clap1:

[Marsh.]

Endemol whipping channel 5 into shape :clap1:

Now we need someone to whip endemol into shape. :think:

[Jamesy]

I actually think that was the whole point of him saying 5 million viewers? Just him basically having a laugh telling us no chance. 'What is the likely hood of live feed Frow?' 'About as likely as Big Brother getting 5 million viewers a night'

[Yaki da]

Channel 5 blame the production, the production blame Channel 5.

The truth is, they're both useless.

What is Oathy's twitter btw?

[T*]

gET BEN OUT
GET BEN OUT
GET BEN OUT

[Jack_]

I always knew it was C5's fault, and Ben Frow really has proven himself to be a twat recently when we all thought different a while back

Endemol :clap1:

Maybe this will be where Channel 5 negotiate axing BB imo

For the sake of the fans I hope Endemol stand their ground like they did during the original negotiations with C5 and tell them it's a package deal and that if they don't want civilian, they don't get to keep their beloved CBB either

[Samm]

If it weren't for that Ben guy we would still have Brian though, pros and cons

[sampvt]

BB has a select audience now and there simply are not enough of them to warrant top viewing figures.

[Marsh.]

If it weren't for that Ben guy we would still have Brian though, pros and cons

Yet we have Rylan.

Kind of like having your life saved but then losing your legs. :(

[Gusto Brunt]

The fact Channel 5 had to be told to provide more coverage.

Good grief.

[Yaki da]

I don't believe for one moment it's all Channel 5's fault. The team from Endemol are the ones who come up with these twists

[Vanessa]

Evict Ben :nono:

[sampvt]

Its all gone far to pc to stay normal and the Bots programme supports the main show and its dire with Rylan at the helm. Simples

[Gusto Brunt]

Its all gone far to pc to stay normal and the Bots programme supports the main show and its dire with Rylan at the helm. Simples

BOTS in its present form should be axed. It has grown from a great little show into an ugly monster. I don't watch BOTS just because Rylan hosts it - although I can't stand him.

I don't watch it also because it's a bag of s***.:fist:

It's all about Rylan, his friends and the gruesome audience.

Ditch the damn thing and bring back a little evening programme like wot Dermot used to front. A guy and his clipboard.

This will leave more money for live feed, clips and tweet updates.

Also scrap Rylan's crap chat show.

[*mazedsalv**]

Apparently Ben told Oathy to pee off this week despite being on good terms.

Ben is annoyed that Oathy have managed to get to Endemol and 5 talking. Ben acting like a toddler

[Jake.]

crazy that just a BB fan has managed to help put this into motion

[Gusto Brunt]

Apparently Ben told Oathy to pee off this week despite being on good terms.

Ben is annoyed that Oathy have managed to get to Endemol and 5 talking. Ben acting like a toddler

A guy who spits his dummy out like that should not be in a senior position.

[wendywillow]

they both mutve gotten a lot of blowback from the debacle of a live show/reveal etc...the whole series has been a mess. starting with letting both houses out in the yard at the same time. thus spoiling the secret house by the second day

[armand.kay]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now. This year is a massive improvement on last year. And the twist may of be a bit of a flop but it is a LOT better than the past c5 twists and it's somewhat original. Personally in terms of aethetic, content and cast endemol have done a decent job.

[Marsh.]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now.

Not true.

[Clootie Dumpling]

BOTS in its present form should be axed. It has grown from a great little show into an ugly monster. I don't watch BOTS just because Rylan hosts it - although I can't stand him.

I don't watch it also because it's a bag of s***.:fist:

It's all about Rylan, his friends and the gruesome audience.

Ditch the damn thing and bring back a little evening programme like wot Dermot used to front. A guy and his clipboard.

This will leave more money for live feed, clips and tweet updates.

Also scrap Rylan's crap chat show.

Reluctantly, I'm finding myself agreeing with you. I liked Rylan and wanted to give him a chance at the start, but the BBBOTS format is dreadful, now, with the ghastly audience being encouraged to go rabid by wrangler Rylan.

[Greg!]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now. This year is a massive improvement on last year. And the twist may of be a bit of a flop but it is a LOT better than the past c5 twists and it's somewhat original. Personally in terms of aethetic, content and cast endemol have done a decent job.

Agree but the website updates were **** compared to last year, but they seem to have improved today

[Shaun]

I do like Rylan but he should never ever be allowed to helm a TV show by himself, he's far too grating and one-note. He's great for little features and interviews but as a crowd-motivator and regular host he's unbearable. Only times I enjoy BOTS now are if there's someone else in (Bianca del Rio, the Homes under the Hammer guys) doing a lengthy segment that takes up his time.

[Pete.]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now. This year is a massive improvement on last year. And the twist may of be a bit of a flop but it is a LOT better than the past c5 twists and it's somewhat original. Personally in terms of aethetic, content and cast endemol have done a decent job.
:clap1:

[Yaki da]

crazy that just a BB fan has managed to help put this into motion

He's been exchanging emails with and sending information to these people for years. He hasn't got very far, let's be honest.

[armand.kay]

Not true.

Thought you wasn't watching :think:

[Yaki da]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now.

Because the same problems that existed last year, exist this year, only with less live coverage, an even worse website and even more **** ups in the first week.

This year is a massive improvement on last year.

The housemates might be, the level of production isn't.

And the twist may of be a bit of a flop but it is a LOT better than the past c5 twists and it's somewhat original.

It's like the halfway house from BB8. Only even worse. And at least back then we had some sense of what was going on. And there was still a 24/7 live feed that allowed us to enjoy whatever was fun about the housemates, which we've never been able to do with channel 5

[Raph]

Yess endemol you do you! :D

[Marsh.]

Thought you wasn't watching :think:

I haven't watched for a couple of days outside of last night's live mess. I highly doubt it's changed. :hee:

[MB.]

I haven't watched for a couple of days outside of last night's live mess. I highly doubt it's changed. :hee:

But I've seen you in the past couple of discussion threads :oh:

[Headie]

Apparently Ben told Oathy to pee off this week despite being on good terms.

Ben is annoyed that Oathy have managed to get to Endemol and 5 talking. Ben acting like a toddler

Mess this post in itself sounds like a #BBUKLive tweet

[Marsh.]

But I've seen you in the past couple of discussion threads :oh:

No you haven't. :nono:

I watched last night's live mess though and I cackled. :hmph:

[MB.]

No you haven't. :nono:

I watched last night's live mess though and I cackled. :hmph:

I'm sick of the lies Marsh

https://67.media.tumblr.com/e1442d59c52b4355391ee7c5d0c904e7/tumblr_o8tcx0PAFv1v9roxto8_250.gif

[Marsh.]

Mess this post in itself sounds like a #BBUKLive tweet

Pfft. They wouldn't have that much detail.

[Rob!]

Pfft. They wouldn't have that much detail.

:joker:

[Braden]

I do like Rylan but he should never ever be allowed to helm a TV show by himself, he's far too grating and one-note. He's great for little features and interviews but as a crowd-motivator and regular host he's unbearable. Only times I enjoy BOTS now are if there's someone else in (Bianca del Rio, the Homes under the Hammer guys) doing a lengthy segment that takes up his time.

It's ridiculous how much exposure he gets for someone so one-note and (dare I say) talentless. He interviewed Boris Johnson on the topic of the EU referendum today on This Morning. I know he was filling in for Phillip Schofield but it's ridiculous that his media career has developed to the extent where he covers such politics.

I'm glad Endemol have met up with Channel 5 to discuss the show. I wonder how frequently they normally meet up? I do agree that there have been improvements but they're very small. Channel 5 seem content on producing a half-arsed show, but the sad thing is tat j genuinely think it's the best they can do.

[Gstar]

Endemol better drag ha

.

[billy123]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now. This year is a massive improvement on last year. And the twist may of be a bit of a flop but it is a LOT better than the past c5 twists and it's somewhat original. Personally in terms of aethetic, content and cast endemol have done a decent job.:facepalm: :facepalm:

[Walter White]

It's ridiculous how much exposure he gets for someone so one-note and (dare I say) talentless. He interviewed Boris Johnson on the topic of the EU referendum today on This Morning. I know he was filling in for Phillip Schofield but it's ridiculous that his media career has developed to the extent where he covers such politics.

I'm glad Endemol have met up with Channel 5 to discuss the show. I wonder how frequently they normally meet up? I do agree that there have been improvements but they're very small. Channel 5 seem content on producing a half-arsed show, but the sad thing is tat j genuinely think it's the best they can do.

THAT's who should host BBBOTS.

[Marsh.]

He interviewed Boris Johnson on the topic of the EU referendum today on This Morning.

:shocked:

[Braden]

:shocked:

Literally my reaction too.

It must have been fun for Boris who has previously called gay people "tank-topped bumboys".

[Jack_]

The content this year hasn't even been that bad people are just moaning for the sake of it now. This year is a massive improvement on last year. And the twist may of be a bit of a flop but it is a LOT better than the past c5 twists and it's somewhat original. Personally in terms of aethetic, content and cast endemol have done a decent job.

The content itself is far better, but there's less of it and that's people's problems

Like the live tweets were **** and meaningless but it's the principle of them existing if we aren't going to be given live feed. C5 are clearly just hellbent on ensuring they have editorial control and can do whatever they want with the show and thankfully Endemol seem to be on the fans side and understand that's not what Big Brother is meant to be about

[BB-J*I*N*X]

Who is Oathy and why is he important?

Oathy is a DS member I think ? unless there is another Oathy?

[Jack_]

And yeah as obsessive as Oathy and co are I do appreciate their dedication to this cause, it's quite commendable really because most people including myself gave up caring a long time ago

Hopefully something comes of this but I doubt it

[*mazedsalv**]

Oathy is a DS member I think ? unless there is another Oathy?

That's the one. He's been chasing the feed campaign since BB10 I think. If not it was certainly since BB12. He's personally been awesome and has never backed down.

The fact he has made anything happen is incredible.

[armand.kay]

The content itself is far better, but there's less of it and that's people's problems

Like the live tweets were **** and meaningless but it's the principle of them existing if we aren't going to be given live feed. C5 are clearly just hellbent on ensuring they have editorial control and can do whatever they want with the show and thankfully Endemol seem to be on the fans side and understand that's not what Big Brother is meant to be about

Yeah I'm not arguing again that this is the first year since bb13 that I've actually wanted live feed to come back.

[armand.kay]

:facepalm: :facepalm:

lol

[BBJordan]

Is this why the updates have started again on Twitter? They have just started posting regular-ish updates

[Walter White]

Literally my reaction too.

It must have been fun for Boris who has previously called gay people "tank-topped bumboys".

Has he?! jesus, what a wanker.

[sampvt]

Has he?! jesus, what a wanker.

Rylan isn't a wanker, he doesent even wear tank tops anyway, he is just a silly hyped up kid with no presenting skills unless its about him.

[Lstan]

So you telling me the real juicy drama is happening behind the scenes where we cant see it?

Typical.

[Walter White]

Rylan isn't a wanker, he doesent even wear tank tops anyway, he is just a silly hyped up kid with no presenting skills unless its about him.

I wasn't talking about Rylan. Maybe read a post before replying to it?

[zakman440]

It's good to see that the live tweets have returned, but I agree that much more needs to be done.

For the record, Frow has said in the past that he's a big believer in "letting people get on with their job" (he apparently only had 1 meeting with Endemol for BB14), so the fact that Endemol has managed to get him back on the negotiating table is a big step and I applaud them for that - it's good to see that they're willing to stand up for what the fans want this time. I just hope that he actually listens and takes action this time.

[sampvt]

I wasn't talking about Rylan. Maybe read a post before replying to it?

Me reed velly good bossman. NURSE, hes out of bed again shouting at me.

[Headie]

It's good to see that the live tweets have returned, but I agree that much more needs to be done.

For the record, Frow has said in the past that he's a big believer in "letting people get on with their job" (he apparently only had 1 meeting with Endemol for BB14), so the fact that Endemol has managed to get him back on the negotiating table is a big step and I applaud them for that - it's good to see that they're willing to stand up for what the fans want this time. I just hope that he actually listens and takes action this time.

The live tweets are still crap IMO, most of the stuff doesn't even make HL shows so we never actually see the stuff they tweet about. For all we know they could just be making stuff up :laugh: