New Andrew "beating" videos

[JJ.]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/523394/BIG-BROTHER-Andrew-Tate-video-beats-women

Thoughts?


Warning, irrespective of consent or if this is S&M, these videos are very very explicit and violent. ��


EDIT: Girl from second video (his ex) has defended him/the video on FB https://www.facebook.com/kingcobratate/videos/1835155203385949/

[Pete.]

Psycho

[Crimson Dynamo]

OK so that is slightly sadistic and I cant imagine she signed up to getting hit in the face like that. I also dont think she has a safe word and that he would listen to it.

I am all for a bit of BDSM but that is not it - that, to me, is abusive.

He definitely has no respect for women that is apparent

[JJ.]

The fact the girl in the second of those clips has released a statement though suggests it was consensual. Unless he held a gun to her head and made her say that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact the girl in the second of those clips has released a statement though suggests it was consensual. Unless he held a gun to her head and made her say that.

There is no way that she agreed to be hit like that. Its interesting that she is no longer his gf. I would not be surprised if he bribed her or she was afraid

[sampvt]

good riddance twat

[Jordan.]

Kinda feel like he set up these leaks now

[JJ.]

There is no way that she agreed to be hit like that. Its interesting that she is no longer his gf. I would not be surprised if he bribed her or she was afraid

I'm not into BDSM but I do know it can get pretty violent and there is some level of enjoyment even on the side of the abused. Whether that's right or wrong is a difficult issue. Some people enjoy pain, etc.

Not justifying it - I was horrified watching - I just think it's best not to judge something and if she's saying it's fine I think we have to sort of accept that. Roleplay is involved so they may have been playing a scene where she acts scared and abused but it's all part of the (twisted) fun of it.

Not my cuppa tea but... each to their own.

Such a weird mess. In fact the whole series is a sh!tstorm of mess, it's one thing after another tbh.

PS The swear filter is a bit long on here, can't it be disabled in preferences for people who aren't bothered by swearing and would rather see things uncensored rather than ***** everywhere? This is a Big Brother forum after all, if we can watch that we're obviously okay with a bit of profanity.

[letmein]

Anyone on here that condones this after watching this video tells me all I need to know about them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm not into BDSM but I do know it can get pretty violent and there is some level of enjoyment even on the side of the abused. Whether that's right or wrong is a difficult issue. Some people enjoy pain, etc.

Not justifying it - I was horrified watching - I just think it's best not to judge something and if she's saying it's fine I think we have to sort of accept that. Roleplay is involved so they may have been playing a scene where she acts scared and abused but it's all part of the (twisted) fun of it.

Not my cuppa tea but... each to their own.

Such a weird mess. In fact the whole series is a sh!tstorm of mess, it's one thing after another tbh.

PS The swear filter is a bit long on here, can't it be disabled in preferences for people who aren't bothered by swearing and would rather see things uncensored rather than ***** everywhere? This is a Big Brother forum after all, if we can watch that we're obviously okay with a bit of profanity.

Well I have watched enough and been involved in enough to know that what that video shows me is abuse and not consensual fun

[armand.kay]

Well...

[Firewire]

He's a psycho whether this is consensual or not

[LukeB]

:umm2: this is ****ed up

[Crimson Dynamo]

His Pimp Stick?

I mean what the actual ****?

[Dollface]

Even if the girl consented to it, it's still totally messed up for him to want to do that to someone. Who does he think he is, Christian Grey?

[y.winter]

This is really bad.

[Jason.]

That video was so uncomfortable to watch. :umm2:

[arista]

He told the Star its Roll playing?

Seems to Extreme

[coffee]

Seems ok to me if she has a safe word and didn't say it... Don't even think i heard her once say "no" or "stop" in the video. Normally those aren't safe words anyway but you need to remember everyone has different kinks lol not everyone likes to be violent in the bedroom and then some others like it too violent.

[Cherie]

Ok I can see why he was removed, that face slap or the beating afterwards was not role play, where did the producers find him :umm2:

[Vanessa]

Omg this guy is sick:shocked:

[ebandit]

...thanks! for all comments so i don't need to watch

anyone? missing andrew.....thought not

Mark L

[Jamie89]

Omg :umm2::umm2::umm2: Can't believe he gets off on that

[Vanessa]

And people on facebook want BB to put him back? :omgno:

[nonstop]

Disgusting. He clearly has issues if he gets off on causing harm.

[Lstan]

And people on facebook want BB to put him back? :omgno:

Some people on here want to put him back.

[MB.]

Not been a great week for him has it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Seems ok to me if she has a safe word and didn't say it... Don't even think i heard her once say "no" or "stop" in the video. Normally those aren't safe words anyway but you need to remember everyone has different kinks lol not everyone likes to be violent in the bedroom and then some others like it too violent.

I asked a friend of mine to watch who is very into that scene and she confirmed this is not bdsm in any shape of form, its abuse. He was angry and there is no anger in BDSM - its all about control - even if both are total pain sluts.

Its woman hating abuse and BB made the correct decision

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not been a great week for him has it

Are you regretting sending an application to him for his new show now?

[reece(:]

Daley teas

[Josy]

I posted about this earlier, he's a **** of the highest order and deserved the boot.

[Nancy.]

I still can't believe people are defending him. What a sick bastard.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I still can't believe people are defending him. What a sick bastard.

who are?

[Mick McMick]

For the record, the girl in the video (the one who released a statement) is a webcam model. She deals in all kinds of kinks and fetishes.
I fully believe this was consensual. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean others don't/shouldn't indulge themselves.

[Shaun]

Sad and pathetic man.

[Nancy.]

who are?

People on Digital Spy. I bet if I checked certain threads on here i'll find a few others too.

[Tom4784]

What a weak little man.

[Ammi]

...I don't know but her eyes/gaze doesn't seem quite fully focused on the camera ..as if she could be reading something...

[Alf]

Ooooooo! Kinky!

[Jamie89]

For the record, the girl in the video (the one who released a statement) is a webcam model. She deals in all kinds of kinks and fetishes.
I fully believe this was consensual. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean others don't/shouldn't indulge themselves.

My issue with it isn't to do with whether or not it's consensual, it's simply the fact that he derives sexual pleasure from smacking her across the face and beating her up. It's gross :umm2:

[starry]

A con artist seems more accepted here.

So the tabloids are releasing the Natalie videos too? They run Big Brother now.

[wendywillow]

I cant watch that stuff, whats the point of the newspaper posting it?

[Josy]

For the record, the girl in the video (the one who released a statement) is a webcam model. She deals in all kinds of kinks and fetishes.
I fully believe this was consensual. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean others don't/shouldn't indulge themselves.

That's a different girl and a different video

[Mick McMick]

That's a different girl and a different video

The girl getting smacked around on the bed is the same girl that released the statement confirming it was consensual. She is the webcam model.

Which girl/video are you referring to?

[Lstan]

I posted about this earlier, he's a **** of the highest order and deserved the boot.

I'm with you Josy, I didnt like him from the start as he came across as a 2edgy4u **** stirrer who tbf I imagine was the reason BB chose to stick him in. BB has a bad history of not vetting people before putting them in the house, when they realised what a psycho he was they decided not to risk it. They need to start doing their job properly.

[Josy]

The girl getting smacked around on the bed is the same girl that released the statement confirming it was consensual. She is the webcam model.

Which girl/video are you referring to?

The new vid is a different girl, the one from the article

[starry]

I think the producers are more worried about the tabloids. Natalie is still in there and she does the same kind of stuff.

[Lstan]

I think the producers are more worried about the tabloids. Natalie is still in there and she does the same kind of stuff.

Does she tho? Most female doms I know tend to give orders they dont usually beat people (unless they work in dungeons) but I do agree BB is more worried about press than anything else given their past housemates.

[MrWong]

So glad that **** got booted out :hee:

[GiRTh]

Looks like he just like hitting women :shrug:

[JoshBB]

Yeah, no. I'm not a BDSM expert, but I know that it doesn't include hitting a woman in the face with a fist (which can cause damage) and I only watched about 10 seconds of it halfway through because I didn't want to see anymore, but it looked like she wasn't enjoying it at all.

The psycho deserved to be removed, but again I'm shocked that BB producers didn't vet housemates properly again.

[Vicky.]

Yeah, no. I'm not a BDSM expert, but I know that it doesn't include hitting a woman in the face with a fist (which can cause damage) and I only watched about 10 seconds of it halfway through because I didn't want to see anymore, but it looked like she wasn't enjoying it at all.

The psycho deserved to be removed, but again I'm shocked that BB producers didn't vet housemates properly again.

Erm..kinda depends how extreme you are.

I refuse to condemn him on this until one of the girls actually says it was abuse and nothing consensual tbh. After the rags made out the first video was different to what it was...I think theres a chance he is just extremely kinky

[Rob!]

Omg that's horrible

[Northern Monkey]

Now i'm not usually one for people being removed for things from before they enter.However that is some nasty ****ed up bullying **** and he should never have been allowed in the BB house.I can't see how anyone could get off on doing that.Good he was removed after seeing that.

[Dollface]

Erm..kinda depends how extreme you are.

I refuse to condemn him on this until one of the girls actually says it was abuse and nothing consensual tbh. After the rags made out the first video was different to what it was...I think theres a chance he is just extremely kinky

there's kinky... and then there's abusive

even if she consented to it i think it's wrong

[LukeB]

Didn't he say something like if you don't open the door I beat the **** out of you?

[jet]

My issue with it isn't to do with whether or not it's consensual, it's simply the fact that he derives sexual pleasure from smacking her across the face and beating her up. It's gross :umm2:

THIS ^^^
I hated him on sight and his arrogance and cockiness in the DR made me want to smack HIM in the face. He's a despicable excuse for a human being.

[Lstan]

Yeah, no. I'm not a BDSM expert, but I know that it doesn't include hitting a woman in the face with a fist (which can cause damage) and I only watched about 10 seconds of it halfway through because I didn't want to see anymore, but it looked like she wasn't enjoying it at all.

The psycho deserved to be removed, but again I'm shocked that BB producers didn't vet housemates properly again.

there's kinky... and then there's abusive

even if she consented to it i think it's wrong

Oh my I am so glad I didnt watch thats disgusting. And I agree Dollface, it is wrong.

nu-uh, if your "kinks" involve punching people in the face you deserve a taste of your own "kink" imo.

[Lstan]

THIS ^^^
I hated him on sight and his arrogance and cockiness in the DR made me want to smack HIM in the face. He's a despicable excuse for a human being.

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[Semtex]

It looks like he has 'bought' them through both money & menace and now thinks that they are his property to do with as he chooses.

I am aware of BDSM and all it's kinky nuances, it's not for me but there seems to be an element of Stockholm syndrome with the girls in these videos.
Almost like they have been conditioned to be abused because they think that deep down he is a nice guy who is looking after them when not making these videos.

I could be totally wrong, but to me he is a danger to women.

[Vicky.]

Oh my I am so glad I didnt watch thats disgusting. And I agree Dollface, it is wrong.

nu-uh, if your "kinks" involve punching people in the face you deserve a taste of your own "kink" imo.

Not to shock you, but a lot of guys would be into that also :tongue:

[Lstan]

Not to shock you, but a lot of guys would be into that also :tongue:

Doesn't make it right :dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would wager that he did not sit down with the girls and discuss their sexual desires and agree to this type of behavoir. I think they simply put up with because he displayed a lot of wealth and they were mesmerised

Its abuse plain and simple.

[Lstan]

i would wager that he did not sit down with the girls and discuss their sexual desires and agree to this type of behavoir. I think they simply put up with because he displayed a lot of wealth and they were mesmerised

Its abuse plain and simple.

I wager he couldnt give a **** about what the women want at all he comes across as someone who will use other people for his own agenda and doesnt see other people as human. Yes it is abuse, nothing more nothing less.

Hes a master manipulator plain and simple, its the reason BB chose him in the first place.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Ok in full context it's too much. They made the right decision.

[TT350]

I know a guy who loves all the dom role play stuff. I find it bizarre that a guy wants to see a woman be below him rather than knowing a woman on equal terms and getting g to know her and rather have a relationship where the woman stays in 'her place' while the man plays daddy or something.

The guy I know spends his relationships with the woman kept. She cooks and cleans, doesn't speak out of turn and if she steps out of line she's put over his knee.

How odd. Shows poor character in a man. Very poor.

Also how could they ever know true love and companionship when dominating someone and believing themselves beyond their 'partner'.

[Gstar]

Dominant men tend to be the most sensitive and insecure

[Crimson Dynamo]

I know a guy who loves all the dom role play stuff. I find it bizarre that a guy wants to see a woman be below him rather than knowing a woman on equal terms and getting g to know her and rather have a relationship where the woman stays in 'her place' while the man plays daddy or something.

The guy I know spends his relationships with the woman kept. She cooks and cleans, doesn't speak out of turn and if she steps out of line she's put over his knee.

How odd. Shows poor character in a man. Very poor.

Also how could they ever know true love and companionship when dominating someone and believing themselves beyond their 'partner'.

"She cooks and cleans, doesn't speak out of turn and if she steps out of line she's put over his knee. "

:flutter:

[Jay_Roberts441]

I must be one of the very few people (or only person) who doesn't see anything wrong in these videos. She clearly consents to whatever Andrew is doing to her otherwise she would tell him to stop and wouldn't come out and defend him publicly.

I mean being gay I have seen a lot of BDSM and fetish videos online and this is nothing compared to watching gay guys punch, kick and even go as far as beating them until one of them is unconscious.

If it is what Andrew and his GF are into who are we to judge, let them both get on with their lives. Also if this is the reason he was kicked out of BBUK then shame on Channel 5.

[Babayaro.]

"She cooks and cleans, doesn't speak out of turn and if she steps out of line she's put over his knee. "

:flutter:

**** sake :joker:

[alex_front2]

I've noticed as women gain more equal opportunities and equality, men are getting increasingly violent towards women. :-

[Ross.]

"She cooks and cleans, doesn't speak out of turn and if she steps out of line she's put over his knee. "

:flutter:

LT :joker::joker::joker::joker: