Marco mother speaks out

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Interesting article where Marco's mother talks about her son. Can't help thinking how he would have turned out with a more stable family life.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3648496/The-agony-watching-son-die-live-TV-Marco-Junior-s-mother-tawdry-Big-Brother-antics-left-crying-sleep-lost-child.html

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

She's awaiting trial for attacking both her sons :umm2:

[Vicky.]

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The wording in the link is rather strange...

But yeah, bad childhood. Loads of cash. In turn bunch of drugs. Never had to earn his keep. Overgrown manchild essentially. Its sad really when you think about it. I said quite early on in the show that watching him was like watching one of the young 'stars' going off the rails, in action and with the breakdown being applauded and encouraged. Nothing has changed...

[Tom4784]

I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.

[Rob!]

Sad thing is I doubt he's even hit his low point yet. I'd love to think he'd watch his time in the house back and realise what a knob he made of himself but I doubt it somehow.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Marco's mother writes better than most other DM writers. (I'm sure she had an editor) She wasn't quick to blame his father and mentioned her own faults as well.

Still think him being ejected was the best thing to happen to him. Maybe he will learn. Or, he will just milk the attention and nothing will change.

I wonder why she didn't show up to the ejection?

[hot2go]

The guy is in pain yet still was never malicious in the house ....I found behaviour of some other housemates more ugly....Luara, Jayne, Ryan, Sam..

I liked the fact he was wild and unpredictable.....

The problem with people who have no vices is that they have some really annoying virtues.

At least he was open about what he likes to do.

[MojoNixon]

Article does not make him any better housemate that he was. Glad that he is out.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The guy is in pain yet still was never malicious in the house ....I found behaviour of some other housemates more ugly....Luara, Jayne, Ryan, Sam..

I liked the fact he was wild and unpredictable.....

The problem with people who have no vices is that they have some really annoying virtues.

At least he was open about what he likes to do.
I like that he's wild. I just hope he doesn't go off the rails.

[Ammi]

..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

[Cherry Christmas]

Interesting that she found the time to sell her story to the DM

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Interesting that she found the time to sell her story to the DM

I know, some mother :nono:

[Nicky91]

I know, some mother :nono:

i can agree with you Vanessa, finally we can agree on something, i find it rude from his mother, that she hasn't had time to support him on BB live eviction show, but she can make time for a interview with DM :hehe:



i like you Nessa :) , we sometimes have got different opinions, but you are still one of my friends on this forum

[y.winter]

Sad story but they're all so twisted to the extent I couldn't care about any of them. Good luck to them with becoming sane.

[Kazanne]

I know, some mother :nono:

She sounds like a right angry woman,she trashed Marco Snr's car aswell didn't she? I bet those kids have seen and heard some stuff.

[Clootie Dumpling]

I feel very sorry for Mati and, while still despising his behaviour in the House, I feel sorry for him, too.

The monster in all of this is Marco Pierre White Snr, whose own behaviour and twisted concept of parental roles, as described in the DM article, come as no surprise and go a long way towards explaining why Marco Jnr is as he is.

This puts his constant attention-seeking and the need to touch everyone all the time into perspective. He craves love and reassurance, which he didn't get as a child, because he father was an unapproachable angry character, who belittled his mother and ignored his children.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

She sounds like a right angry woman,she trashed Marco Snr's car aswell didn't she? I bet those kids have seen and heard some stuff.

And she's wrong about Marco. He's only 21 so not too late. He will grow up eventually :hee:

[Ellen]

i can agree with you Vanessa, finally we can agree on something, i find it rude from his mother, that she hasn't had time to support him on BB live eviction show, but she can make time for a interview with DM :hehe:



i like you Nessa :) , we sometimes have got different opinions, but you are still one of my friends on this forum

i dont know but there maybe an injunction on her with her been violent towards her sons?
I agree that she should not be talking to the papers, not the best move on her part.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

i dont know but there maybe an injunction on her with her been violent towards her sons?
I agree that she should not be talking to the papers, not the best move on her part.

Yes she attacked Marco and then his brother when he tried to protect him. :mad:

[Ellen]

Yes she attacked Marco and then his brother when he tried to protect him. :mad:

She's probably not allowed anywhere near him Vanessa, not that he would want her to be by the sounds of it.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

She's probably not allowed anywhere near him Vanessa, not that he would want her to be by the sounds of it.

It must be hard for him. Your mum is always your mum. Even a volatile one like her. But he never talks about her :(

[Ellen]

It must be hard for him. Your mum is always your mum. Even a volatile one like her. But he never talks about her :(

It is a shame, something must have gone badly wrong. It isnt going to help her build a relationship back up with him with her going too the press :nono:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It is a shame, something must have gone badly wrong. It isnt going to help her build a relationship back up with him with her going too the press :nono:

Exactly. This is only going to upset her sons more :fist:

[y.winter]

Parents can do awful lot of things to get custody and get the kids against the other when divorcing. This divorce sounds really nasty, so I wouldn't automatically bash the mother. It's too dirty to take side, I'll leave it to them and the judge.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Parents can do awful lot of things to get custody and get the kids against the other when divorcing. This divorce sounds really nasty, so I wouldn't automatically bash the mother. It's too dirty to take side, I'll leave it to them and the judge.

She's the one who got violent and is going to court for it. For me it rings alarm bells very loudly.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

Sounds like his dad spoiled him for overcompensating for not being there. Boys needed their father.

[y.winter]

I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...

It sounds like he wasn't there when he was needed.

[hot2go]

I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.

What a simplistic and idealistic view you have .....I think you're wrong myself...very...loads of kids from famous parents end up like Marco and often end up dead....I don't know who your favourite housemates are or what their parents are like but I do know there is a high percentage chance they will become exactly as narsassistic as he is......I wonder if you simplistic view will be applied to them too.

[hot2go]

..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

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[Kazanne]

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.

[Good King Glennceslas]

I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.

:clap1:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.
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[fitz2k2]

this is typical

[hot2go]

:clap1:

Nice to see you've still got the clap :laugh:

[Good King Glennceslas]

Slow clap for the comedian

[Tom4784]

What a simplistic and idealistic view you have .....I think you're wrong myself...very...loads of kids from famous parents end up like Marco and often end up dead....I don't know who your favourite housemates are or what their parents are like but I do know there is a high percentage chance they will become exactly as narsassistic as he is......I wonder if you simplistic view will be applied to them too.

I'll only warn you once. don't attack people because of their favourites. Drop that **** right now.

My view isn't simplistic or idealistic. Having a bad childhood isn't an excuse for being a ****up in adult life. at some point you have to let go of that crap or let it consume you but it's not an excuse for acting like a twat, that's on his shoulders and no one else's.

He is no longer a child, he has his own mind and he can come to his own conclusions. You can't blame his upbringing for his actions.

[Kazanne]

this is typical

Typical of what ?

[Tinsel Toes]

I feel very sorry for Mati and, while still despising his behaviour in the House, I feel sorry for him, too.

The monster in all of this is Marco Pierre White Snr, whose own behaviour and twisted concept of parental roles, as described in the DM article, come as no surprise and go a long way towards explaining why Marco Jnr is as he is.

This puts his constant attention-seeking and the need to touch everyone all the time into perspective. He craves love and reassurance, which he didn't get as a child, because he father was an unapproachable angry character, who belittled his mother and ignored his children.

Sounds like MP Senior is a bully who uses money to get his own way - I hope every bloody restaurant he owns closes through lack of custom - The only way he will be rewarded properly for his selfish disgusting pig behaviour.

[Garfie]

I'll only warn you once. don't attack people because of their favourites. Drop that **** right now.

My view isn't simplistic or idealistic. Having a bad childhood isn't an excuse for being a ****up in adult life. at some point you have to let go of that crap or let it consume you but it's not an excuse for acting like a twat, that's on his shoulders and no one else's.

He is no longer a child, he has his own mind and he can come to his own conclusions. You can't blame his upbringing for his actions.


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That was an awfully condescending response to your point, which is very valid, so I totally understand your reaction. Hot2go makes some really intelligent points on many things, which I can often respect and agree with, but on occasions some are made in a rather insulting way, as in this case.

Sadly, many Marco fans will not see that he has any responsibility for his own behaviour, despite the fact that he is an adult, and excuse him no matter what. Yet the more people excuse things, the more he will continue with behaviours which are likely to be harmful to himself or others, so it is actually detrimental to him, as the excuses are actually allowing him to convince himself that all is okay as it is.

At what age or under what circumstances should Marco actually stop blaming his upbringing, learn some self-control and help himself? When he dies from cocaine abuse? When he kills someone whilst driving under the influence of drugs/alcohol? By excusing him no matter what, is almost supporting Marco in his own downfall or tragic outcome.

[hot2go]

I'll only warn you once. don't attack people because of their favourites. Drop that **** right now.

My view isn't simplistic or idealistic. Having a bad childhood isn't an excuse for being a ****up in adult life. at some point you have to let go of that crap or let it consume you but it's not an excuse for acting like a twat, that's on his shoulders and no one else's.

He is no longer a child, he has his own mind and he can come to his own conclusions. You can't blame his upbringing for his actions.

Im not attacking you. ....I'm disagreeing with you ....and I still do...so I guess we will have to remain disagreeing with each other on this one....

You say abuse or neglect as a child are no excuse for being disfunctional as an adult
I say it's not that simplistic and those factors def affect people when they become adults

No point either of us going round in circles, we clearly don't agree

[Garfie]

Sounds like MP Senior is a bully who uses money to get his own way - I hope every bloody restaurant he owns closes through lack of custom - The only way he will be rewarded properly for his selfish disgusting pig behaviour.

But you're criticising MPS for behaving in exactly the same way when he was a young man, that people are excusing MPJ for now, which is really ironic.

E.g.

A bully- MPJ was agressive and threatening to both Ryan and security guards.
Selfish- MPJ has behaved exactly as he has wanted to in both the house and outside. Spending £250,000 on drugs, etc - driving under the influence of cocaine and during the day when there are likely to be crowds and young children out and about- doing what he wants with no thought about how it affects someone else
Disgusting- numerous of his antics on the show, his treatment of his fiancée, etc.

If, in 20 years time, MPJ has a son behaving in the way he does now, whose fault will that be? Because, according to MPJ fans, it seems it won't be his fault!

Will they blame the child? Will they blame MPS's parents for the way they brought him up (if it's always the parents' fault)? Or will they still turn round and blame his father, who was perhaps too busy to give much time to him, and appears to have had a temper, but was, at least, trying to work hard to make a decent living in order to provide his children with a good education, a comfortable lifestyle, etc.

[BB247]

If you don't have anything good to say about your son SHUT THE ****** UP:fist:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

If you don't have anything good to say about your son SHUT THE ****** UP:fist:

A mum saying her son has no hope is very cruel. You should always support your kids no matter what. :nono:

[Good King Glennceslas]

I love that his behaviour has been blamed on someone else.

[MojoNixon]

I love that his behaviour has been blamed on someone else.

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[hot2go]

A mum saying her son has no hope is very cruel. You should always support your kids no matter what. :nono:

She's a right piece of work she is....what a cow

If she was gen worried about him she'd have been there to support him on Friday night

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

She's a right piece of work she is....what a cow

If she was gen worried about him she'd have been there to support him on Friday night

The only hope is his dad, but let's hope he supports him he hasn't been there when he needed him

[hot2go]

The only hope is his dad, but let's hope he supports him he hasn't been there when he needed him

I can't believe how hard people can be ...how can they not feel
A little sorry for the lad.

[Vicky.]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-tv/hot-tv/523927/big-brother-marco-pierre-white-junior-drugs-prostitute-crack-pipe-video

:S

Edit. NSFW!!!!

[Parmy]

Laura, poor girl must be riddled by now.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Yeah...his mother has a lot to answer for :think:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I can't believe how hard people can be ...how can they not feel
A little sorry for the lad.

This!

[bananarama]

The guy is in pain yet still was never malicious in the house ....I found behaviour of some other housemates more ugly....Luara, Jayne, Ryan, Sam..

I liked the fact he was wild and unpredictable.....

The problem with people who have no vices is that they have some really annoying virtues.

At least he was open about what he likes to do.

The people he hurts like his girlfriend are the ones in pain. As for being unpredictable what is unpredictable about womanising that's very predictable from a guy who thinks women are meat.

As for being open about what he likes to do you mean he just likes to do women

He is spoilt rotten and a waste of space and that's the truth.

[y.winter]

Eww :omgno:

What a trainwreck...

[Kazanne]

The people he hurts like his girlfriend are the ones in pain. As for being unpredictable what is unpredictable about womanising that's very predictable from a guy who thinks women are meat.

As for being open about what he likes to do you mean he just likes to do women

He is spoilt rotten and a waste of space and that's the truth.

She's not in pain,lol,but she's in the money for selling a story on him,no wonder he finished with her. I didn't mind marco,there are worse people about .all I can say it's a good job some of Tibb aren't in the caring profession :hee:

[Speedster]

I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.



This. I have NO sympathy.

[Speedster]

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.



Laura? what is it that you vanessa have against Laura?. For love of god all he had to do was stay away from her and everything'd be fine but HE DIDN'T WANT TO, doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?????. Obviously not let clue in-it means he didn't want.

All you two have is blame 2 women for the way he conveniently forgetting he's and adult and responsible for his own. You go on his mother, are aware of his father's reputation??????.

When Laura gets evicted, who will you blame then for behaviour????

[Speedster]

The people he hurts like his girlfriend are the ones in pain. As for being unpredictable what is unpredictable about womanising that's very predictable from a guy who thinks women are meat.

As for being open about what he likes to do you mean he just likes to do women

He is spoilt rotten and a waste of space and that's the truth.



Thank god. Some reality.

[Kazanne]

Laura? what is it that you vanessa have against Laura?. For love of god all he had to do was stay away from her and everything'd be fine but HE DIDN'T WANT TO, doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?????. Obviously not let clue in-it means he didn't want.

All you two have is blame 2 women for the way he conveniently forgetting he's and adult and responsible for his own. You go on his mother, are aware of his father's reputation??????.

When Laura gets evicted, who will you blame then for behaviour????

Calm down,no need to get in a frenzy,I have NEVER blamed it all on Laura as you have Marco ,she was equally happy to let him do the things he did,she never pushed him away or told him to stop,she loved it infact as soon as he went in she said she wanted him to "eff her hard" but the worst point for me is the way she backtracked as soon as he was evicted ,she's some girl isn't she,trying to blame him about their behaviour instead of taking equally the blame,and now is acting all virginal and squeaky clean,Laura is also an adult and responsible for her behaviour,afterall what sort of woman would let a guy lift up her top and suck on her boob on national TV? As for his mother it is well documented that she battered her kids and trashed their car etc,as for the father ,Marco loves his dad and his dad he, so I don't see your problem other than Marco doesn't have T&A

[Kizzy]

I have sympathy, having a bad childhood will affect different people in different ways some may heal themselves via catharsis through a sequence of acceptances and/or forgiveness and some through therapy.
You can't sex and drugs yourself better.