An insufferably pompous arse?

[Yaki da]

There's something about this guy that rubs me up the wrong way.

It could be the face...

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/740648039153606656/vYcvgkZo.jpg

It could be his profile reading the following...

"He believes he is intelligent and he likes people to know that. He believes his opinions and views are correct and he likes to have them heard"

It could be that he believed Tyson Fury should have been taken off the SPOTY awards for having views he deemed unacceptable (never mind that most of the country couldn't care less)

Or it could be his face...

http://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2015/12/10/114504676-ddc15942-50be-4273-92bd-77c0a5690c36.jpg


Or the arrogant manner in which he lectures the BBC...

"I am ashamed to work for the BBC when it lacks bravery to admit it is making a mistake."

Yeah, it's definitely the combination of smugness and anger.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03523/Andy_West_3523320b.jpg

Would you trust this man?

[Crimson Dynamo]

i like him, he has a sense of humour

[Yaki da]

i like him, he has a sense of humour

I'm yet to see any evidence of this.

[Jamie89]

I agree with what you're saying, been saying it myself since day 1. He irritates me no end.

[y.winter]

I appreciate his "suicidal" announcement as a BBC reporter, it takes character doing such thing (I guess you could say it's somewhat arrogant and foolish thing to do, but it was from the heart).
I can understand his thirst for intelligent people and conversations (and the lack of it in the house).
The only thing that bothers me about him is when we he started getting over-friendly with Marco, what was it all about? Too artificial thing to do after stating his opinions on people of his kind.

[Maria26]

I liked him at the beginning but he is starting to get on my nerves. There is just something about him, he's giving me a vibe that I don't like. He is indeed arrogant and look down on people. I guess I understand why they call him sly. Also, there is something really fake about the way he spoke to Marco the other day. What was that?

[Vanessa]

I like him and I appreciate him trying to give Marco advice. He needs more friends like this and less yes people.

[Nicky91]

I like him and I appreciate him trying to give Marco advice. He needs more friends like this and less yes people.

what do you mean with yes people?

[Dylan95]

I kind of see this, I get the vibe he thinks he's above everyone hence why he's not bonding with everyone

[Jamie89]

I appreciate his "suicidal" announcement as a BBC reporter, it takes character doing such thing (I guess you could say it's somewhat arrogant and foolish thing to do, but it was from the heart).
I can understand his thirst for intelligent people and conversations (and the lack of it in the house).
The only thing that bothers me about him is when we he started getting over-friendly with Marco, what was it all about? Too artificial thing to do after stating his opinions on people of his kind.

One of my main issues with him, is the way he seems to have such a superior view of himself because of this. Being intelligent might make him stand out from most housemates, and it might be an admirable thing in itself, a good thing to see in a housemate etc, but being intelligent doesn't mean you have to also be condescending towards people who aren't/less intelligent than themselves. And that's a really bad and unnecessary trait to have, imo.

[Yaki da]

I agree with what you're saying, been saying it myself since day 1. He irritates me no end.

I've given up having faves on this show (It's too depressing an experience). So now I just get down to disliking certain housemates.

[Maria26]

One of my main issues with him, is the way he seems to have such a superior view of himself because of this. Being intelligent might make him stand out from most housemates, and it might be an admirable thing in itself, a good thing to see in a housemate etc, but being intelligent doesn't mean you have to also be condescending towards people who aren't/less intelligent than themselves. And that's a really bad and unnecessary trait to have, imo.

I couldn't agree more. And this is really rubbing me off the wrong way. He's condescending.

[Kazanne]

I like him and I appreciate him trying to give Marco advice. He needs more friends like this and less yes people.

I don't mind him either at least he isn't two faced,not that I've seen anyway:wavey:

[hot2go]

He doesn't have a superior view, he just is superior to most of them in emotional intelligence and has integrity and that's not same thing ...not his fault some of them are emotionally retarded and in turn make him look so much better than they are.
Better to proud that your intelligent than to be proud that you're stupid and amoral ....he has humour so sees the irony in so much that takes place, an observation totally lost on a lot of them.
Don't have a fave now but he is one of the top ones for me.....he's gonna be great for exposing others true personalities....he's already shown us what Sam is all about, not that I needed any proof

[jet]

I couldn't agree more. And this is really rubbing me off the wrong way. He's condescending.

I don't really see him as condescending. In contrast to most of the others he comes across to me as rational, reasonable and discerning. Having a journalists mind it is par for the course that he's going to comment on things in a more critical way than most. He's not rude, he's not loud, he's not attention seeking, he has a sense of humour and he doesn't run around shirtless or bare assed. And he can string whole sentences together. :hee: I'm liking him a lot.

[VanessaFeltz.]

i would trust him... in bed :hee:

[Yaki da]

I don't really see him as condescending. In contrast to most of the others he comes across to me as rational, reasonable and discerning. Having a journalists mind it is par for the course that he's going to comment on things in a more critical way than most. He's not rude, he's not loud, he's not attention seeking, he has a sense of humour and he doesn't run around shirtless or bare assed. And he can string whole sentences together. :hee: I'm liking him a lot.

I find him condescending, rude and utterly humourless

[hot2go]

I couldn't agree more. And this is really rubbing me off the wrong way. He's condescending.

Some people are just piss take victims for England , you have to take the piss out of em....it's not condescending, it's just British :laugh::laugh: they invite it on themselves and if they have a brain and the ability to laugh at themselves then they can give as good as they get and laugh too...like Andy and Jason do with each other.
That is a big diff between main house and others....main house has less humour and def less fun because of it.

[hot2go]

I find him condescending, rude and utterly humourless

That's a shame....for you .....don't know what you're missing.....

[Maria26]

Some people are just piss take victims for England , you have to take the piss out of em....it's not condescending, it's just British :laugh::laugh: they invite it on themselves and if they have a brain and the ability to laugh at themselves then they can give as good as they get and laugh too...like Andy and Jason do with each other.
That is a big diff between main house and others....main house has less humour and def less fun because of it.

but condescending is not the only problem for me. He's rubbng me the wrong way. I think he is sneaky and sly. Personally, I wouldn't trust him.

[hot2go]

I don't agree with you Yaki Da ...I don't think that most the country couldn't care less about homophobic sports personalities being awarded ....most of us don't want to award homophobic wanders with any kind of prize...
If the boxer thinks he is superior to gay people than your thread is a complete contradiction and hypocritical, wouldn't you agree....you don't care if a bigotted boxer thinks he's superior but you care that you think Andy is.

[jet]

He doesn't have a superior view, he just is superior to most of them in emotional intelligence and has integrity and that's not same thing ...not his fault some of them are emotionally retarded and in turn make him look so much better than they are.
Better to proud that your intelligent than to be proud that you're stupid and amoral ....he has humour so sees the irony in so much that takes place, an observation totally lost on a lot of them.
Don't have a fave now but he is one of the top ones for me.....he's gonna be great for exposing others true personalities....he's already shown us what Sam is all about, not that I needed any proof

Yes! You get his type of humour too. :wavey:

[hot2go]

[QUOTE=jet;8737570]Yes! You get his type of humour too. :wavey:[/QUOTE

Course I do ....he's a gift....:laugh:

[Nicky91]

but condescending is not the only problem for me. He's rubbng me the wrong way. I think he is sneaky and sly. Personally, I wouldn't trust him.

I wouldn't trust him either :)

[hot2go]

Yes! You get his type of humour too. :wavey:

My fave moment so far by a mile was when Snidey Sam and Lateysha walked away from the garden bench the moment Marco arrived and Marco then went into brave front mode and started singing like a loon...that in itself was brilliant for me, he looked like a cross between a young Keith Richards and Stephen Hawkins :laugh: but the cherry on the cake are was the way Andy stared at him in disdain, took a drag on his fag then turned away in complete indifference.....LOL....LOL....LOL...he has the best expressions that can speak volumes and are funny as f-ck...I love watching him but I love cats so I would....it's like a cat playing with all the little mice for its own amusement :laugh: he's brilliant

[jet]

I don't agree with you Yaki Da ...I don't think that most the country couldn't care less about homophobic sports personalities being awarded ....most of us don't want to award homophobic wanders with any kind of prize...
If the boxer thinks he is superior to gay people than your thread is a complete contradiction and hypocritical, wouldn't you agree....you don't care if a bigotted boxer thinks he's superior but you care that you think Andy is.

Well said!

[hot2go]

but condescending is not the only problem for me. He's rubbng me the wrong way. I think he is sneaky and sly. Personally, I wouldn't trust him.

I wouldn't trust any of them :laugh: that's kind of the point for me and why I watch it...he seems to have a loyalty to his former house mates on the other side so their is def some trust there ....but if I was one of the people he thinks are stupid I wouldn't trust him either...or blame him

[Nicky91]

I wouldn't trust any of them :laugh: that's kind of the point for me and why I watch it...he seems to have a loyalty to his former house mates on the other side so their is def some trust there ....but if I was one of the people he thinks are stupid I wouldn't trust him either...or blame him

i would only trust and i can be friends with Lateysha and Georgina :)

[Kazanne]

I don't really see him as condescending. In contrast to most of the others he comes across to me as rational, reasonable and discerning. Having a journalists mind it is par for the course that he's going to comment on things in a more critical way than most. He's not rude, he's not loud, he's not attention seeking, he has a sense of humour and he doesn't run around shirtless or bare assed. And he can string whole sentences together. :hee: I'm liking him a lot.

Hi Jet,I'm quite liking Andy too,not my fave,I haven't got one yet,but I feel he could be .:wavey:

[Ellen]

Liking Andy at the moment, he comes across as having a dry sense of humour which i think some in the house dont get.

[Jamie89]

I don't agree with you Yaki Da ...I don't think that most the country couldn't care less about homophobic sports personalities being awarded ....most of us don't want to award homophobic wanders with any kind of prize...
If the boxer thinks he is superior to gay people than your thread is a complete contradiction and hypocritical, wouldn't you agree....you don't care if a bigotted boxer thinks he's superior but you care that you think Andy is.

I disagree that it's a contradiction, depending on how the Tyson Fury thing is viewed anyway. Personally I don't think Andy was in the right about the Tyson Fury situation because it was an award for his sporting achievements, his personal views should have been irrelevant. So I can dislike Tyson Fury as a person, but at the same time recognise that if he's earned a sporting award then so be it. In the same way that I can dislike Andy, but if he were to win a Journalism award then so be it. Not caring about Tyson's award doesn't in any way mean that a person thinks his views are acceptable or that they'd want him to have a prize.

[Maria26]

Liking Andy at the moment, he comes across as having a dry sense of humour which i think some in the house dont get.

I have yet to see his sense humor...

[Nicky91]

I have yet to see his sense humor...

me too, i haven't seen his sense of humour either :laugh:

[hot2go]

i would only trust and i can be friends with Lateysha and Georgina :)

Sorry to disappoint you Nik, but if you were in the final weeks with them, or any other of the housemates, you wouldn't be able to trust them as far as you could throw them....:laugh::laugh: they're all there to win

[jet]

Hi Jet,I'm quite liking Andy too,not my fave,I haven't got one yet,but I feel he could be .:wavey:

Hi Kazanne! Same here. I like a few of them, but no firm favourite yet.

[Nicky91]

Sorry to disappoint you Nik, but if you were in the final weeks with them, or any other of the housemates, you wouldn't be able to trust them as far as you could throw them....:laugh::laugh: they're all there to win

i know that, mate and i would still be friends with Georgina and Lateysha, if i was in the house :)

[hot2go]

i know that, mate and i would still be friends with Georgina and Lateysha, if i was in the house :)

I like the passion you have for your fave...,it's a good thing

[jet]

i know that, mate and i would still be friends with Georgina and Lateysha, if i was in the house :)

I like both those girls, but I would personally want to spend more time with Andy. He is more interesting to me. :shrug:

[Nicky91]

I like the passion you have for your fave...,it's a good thing

I like both those girls, but I would personally want to spend more time with Andy. He is more interesting to me. :shrug:

thank you to both, and yeah i'm passionate for my favourite girls :)

[Maria26]

I like both those girls, but I would personally want to spend more time with Andy. He is more interesting to me. :shrug:

I don't know...I feel like he would irritate me at some point. Like, I would really get on with him at first but then he's condescending attitude would get to me.

[Nicky91]

I don't know...I feel like he would irritate me at some point. Like, I would really get on with him at first but then he's condescending attitude would get to me.

yeah, i also feel that way with him :)

[Vanessa]

Anyone who stands up To Georgina has my full support :hee:

[Ellen]

Anyone who stands up To Georgina has my full support :hee:

:laugh2:

[Nicky91]

Anyone who stands up To Georgina has my full support :hee:

wait until you see Natalie in the house tonight, i think she'll be nasty and rude to everyone in the house :D


but anyway this is a joke :joker: :laugh:

[Maria26]

But Andy is not standing up to Georgina LOL They had one argument and they made up. Period. That's call being adults.

[Vanessa]

:laugh2:

He doesn like Georgina, so he has all my support. :hee:

[Nicky91]

He doesn like Georgina, so he has all my support. :hee:

they already made up, like adults :)

[Ellen]

He doesn like Georgina, so he has all my support. :hee:

I know he doesnt, you just made me laugh with what you said :laugh:

[Ellen]

They may have 'made up' but i highly doubt Georgina has tbh

[Vanessa]

They may have 'made up' but i highly doubt Georgina has tbh

She has been talking about him to the others behind his back. I don't like that.

[Maria26]

They may have 'made up' but i highly doubt Georgina has tbh

Maybe if he wasn't a complete arrogant snake, he'd have less problems and would stop bicthing about the other housemates. I guess that makes him as two-faced as Georgina :laugh:

Funny though that people who likes Andy now are the ones who were for Marco. That's very telling. :joker:

[jet]

Maybe if he wasn't a complete arrogant snake, he'd have less problems and would stop bicthing about the other housemates. I guess that makes him as two-faced as Georgina :laugh:

Funny though that people who likes Andy now are the ones who were for Marco. That's very telling. :joker:

Hey you :fist: I didn't like Marco - and I like Georgina not just as much as Andy. :smug:

[hot2go]

I disagree that it's a contradiction, depending on how the Tyson Fury thing is viewed anyway. Personally I don't think Andy was in the right about the Tyson Fury situation because it was an award for his sporting achievements, his personal views should have been irrelevant. So I can dislike Tyson Fury as a person, but at the same time recognise that if he's earned a sporting award then so be it. In the same way that I can dislike Andy, but if he were to win a Journalism award then so be it. Not caring about Tyson's award doesn't in any way mean that a person thinks his views are acceptable or that they'd want him to have a prize.

The contradiction and hypocricy isn't so much the difference between the boxers public achievements and personal values

The contradiction is to not care less that the boxer believes he is superior to gay people yet at the same time care very much and dislike Andy for believing he thinks he is superior ....that makes no sense to me....dislike Andy for other reasons but to dislike Andy cause you thinks he's superior has no value if you approve the same quality in someone else.

[Nicky91]

Hey you :fist: I didn't like Marco - and I like Georgina as well as Andy. :smug:

don't blame Maria, she's a very passionate Georgina fan :)



and jet, i do like your opinion, and i think Andy could be a nice person, if he would just be himself, also glad you like Georgina, just follow your own heart who you like, don't let yourself be guided by others, would be my advice for you :)

[Ellen]

Maybe if he wasn't a complete arrogant snake, he'd have less problems and would stop bicthing about the other housemates. I guess that makes him as two-faced as Georgina :laugh:

Funny though that people who likes Andy now are the ones who were for Marco. That's very telling. :joker:

Im not aware i mentioned Marco or what he has to do with Andy :conf:

[Maria26]

Im not aware i mentioned Marco or what he has to do with Andy :conf:

I'm not aware I mentioned your name specifically...:conf: My first answer was for you. The rest was not.

[hot2go]

Funny though that people who likes Andy now are the ones who were for Marco. That's very telling. :joker:

Do tell......I'm curious ....apart from both being mis understood by some other housemates they had no other similarities at all.

I def like both without question but then again, I don't have a pre conceived idea of what I want before the show even starts...and I don't only stick to the same type, as his clearly reflected in my choices here....

How is it telling ?

[jet]

don't blame Maria, she's a very passionate Georgina fan :)



and jet, i do like your opinion, and i think Andy could be a nice person, if he would just be himself, also glad you like Georgina, just follow your own heart who you like, don't let yourself be guided by others, would be my advice for you :)

I always follow my own heart...just ask hot2go....:joker:

[Nicky91]

I always follow my own heart...just ask hot2go....:joker:

i believe you :)

[hot2go]

I always follow my own heart...just ask hot2go....:joker:

Best way too mate :banana::banana::banana:

[jet]

i believe you :)

hot2go and I were on opposing sides last series, it was interesting. :joker:

[Nicky91]

hot2go and I were on opposing sides last series, it was interesting. :joker:

i also like hot2go, i respect his opinion :)

[hot2go]

hot2go and I were on opposing sides last series, it was interesting. :joker:

Which housemate was the biggest conflict between us ....I think there was more than one :laugh:

Don't know what's best, being in opposite camps or having you on side...it's always fun either way :thumbs:

[hot2go]

i also like hot2go, i respect his opinion :)

Oh thanks Nicky....same here to you....we had some great battles over Gemma Collins....:laugh::laugh: I actually didn't hate her quite as much as I said...tbh I don't hate watching many housemates in general...this year, for me, they nearly all have something that I like to watch...
Last nights BB was a turning point for me, I started to see things in some house mates I'd not appreciated before....Marcos final mark on the house, seeing their reaction to his departure and watching them shift a gear to stay in the game...Laura best example, she is such a game player, I don't like her but I have to respect that she's playing the game and I do enjoy watching that.

[Samm]

He's really smug and patronising

[reece(:]

I said this Day 1!

[Nicky91]

Oh thanks Nicky....same here to you....we had some great battles over Gemma Collins....:laugh::laugh: I actually didn't hate her quite as much as I said...tbh I don't hate watching many housemates in general...this year, for me, they nearly all have something that I like to watch...
Last nights BB was a turning point for me, I started to see things in some house mates I'd not appreciated before....Marcos final mark on the house, seeing their reaction to his departure and watching them shift a gear to stay in the game...Laura best example, she is such a game player, I don't like her but I have to respect that she's playing the game and I do enjoy watching that.

yeah i also feel for you, that Marco was your favourite and got evicted, i feel like it was a bit my fault, my promoting to evict Marco to save my favourite, my sincere apologies for that :)


but i actually quite liked the fact you also liked Georgina, i thought that it was cool that we're supporting the same housemate


last night she smiled when she saw Jackson, i really love her smile :)

[Withano]

He's a good guy

[Vanessa]

He's a good guy

:clap1:

[hot2go]

yeah i also feel for you, that Marco was your favourite and got evicted, i feel like it was a bit my fault, my promoting to evict Marco to save my favourite, my sincere apologies for that :)


but i actually quite liked the fact you also liked Georgina, i thought that it was cool that we're supporting the same housemate


last night she smiled when she saw Jackson, i really love her smile :)

Can't wait for the others to join main house,...and can't wait to see them do their first proper task where they have to work as a team that hopefully involves some physical activity outside instead of the crapy ghost task...I think they're all very competitive this year and that's good.

[LemonJam]

he's the best. His diary room sessions have been the highlight to me so far.

[Vanessa]

he's the best. His diary room sessions have been the highlight to me so far.

This year dark horse :laugh:

[Jamie89]

The contradiction and hypocricy isn't so much the difference between the boxers public achievements and personal values

The contradiction is to not care less that the boxer believes he is superior to gay people yet at the same time care very much and dislike Andy for believing he thinks he is superior ....that makes no sense to me....dislike Andy for other reasons but to dislike Andy cause you thinks he's superior has no value if you approve the same quality in someone else.
For me though, I do care that the boxer thinks he's superior, in terms of me judging him as a person, I just don't think it should effect whether or not he gets a sporting award. So me not caring about or me being approving of the award isn't me being approving of his views, it's just that I wouldn't take my personal dislike of him into consideration. That's what I meant by the Andy/journalism award analogy, my personal opinion of him wouldn't make me think he doesn't deserve an award for something that's not based on who he is as a person.
I dislike them both for their superiority, but wouldn't care about either being awarded based on their careers.

[hot2go]

yeah i also feel for you, that Marco was your favourite and got evicted, i feel like it was a bit my fault, my promoting to evict Marco to save my favourite, my sincere apologies for that :)


but i actually quite liked the fact you also liked Georgina, i thought that it was cool that we're supporting the same housemate


last night she smiled when she saw Jackson, i really love her smile :)

What's strange and seems to set me apart from almost everyone else on here , is that the reasons I like Andy were the same reasons I liked Georgina before she became depressed....they both have a very dry delivery and both laugh at the irony of their situation.....it's strange to me how people who like her also dislike him and I can only assume it's because she doesn't like him.....and the reason for that is cause they're actually so alike .....BANG :laugh: that's gonna cause me grief :laugh: but it's gen what I think

[Kazanne]

Lets all be honest here the reason Andy is getting so much backlash is that he dared confront Georgina and the fans are having none of it,ANY of the housemates that do that will be in the firing line,watch this space.

[Vanessa]

Lets all be honest here the reason Andy is getting so much backlash is that he dared confront Georgina and the fans are having none of it,ANY of the housemates that do that will be in the firing line,watch this space.

That's the reason I like him. :laugh:

[Nicky91]

What's strange and seems to set me apart from almost everyone else on here , is that the reasons I like Andy were the same reasons I liked Georgina before she became depressed....they both have a very dry delivery and both laugh at the irony of their situation.....it's strange to me how people who like her also dislike him and I can only assume it's because she doesn't like him.....and the reason for that is cause they're actually so alike .....BANG :laugh: that's gonna cause me grief :laugh: but it's gen what I think

well Georgina smiled last night when she saw Jackson, and she doesn't dislike Andy, first of all they made up, like adults


and i like Georgina, because i find her moaning and whining hilarious, and her one liners are funny as well, the reason she talked to Lateysha behind andy's back, was because she didn't want to argue with him, because she wasn't angry at him


i really genuinely hope you can like Georgina again, because i really want that you also can see what i see in her :)

[Jamie89]

Lets all be honest here the reason Andy is getting so much backlash is that he dared confront Georgina and the fans are having none of it,ANY of the housemates that do that will be in the firing line,watch this space.
Can only speak for myself Kaz but I've been posting my dislike for Andy since launch[emoji23]And I'm not a Georgina fan either.

[Kazanne]

Can only speak for myself Kaz but I've been posting my dislike for Andy since launch[emoji23]And I'm not a Georgina fan either.

Oh I'm not saying everyone Jamie,but some who are Georgina fans will turn against whichever housemate confronts her,I get some people don't like Andy as a person and theres no problem with that.:wavey:

[hot2go]

For me though, I do care that the boxer thinks he's superior, in terms of me judging him as a person, I just don't think it should effect whether or not he gets a sporting award. So me not caring about or me being approving of the award isn't me being approving of his views, it's just that I wouldn't take my personal dislike of him into consideration. That's what I meant by the Andy/journalism award analogy, my personal opinion of him wouldn't make me think he doesn't deserve an award for something that's not based on who he is as a person.
I dislike them both for their superiority, but wouldn't care about either being awarded based on their careers.

Well that also fine if you think that, you're right and there are other public figures who are the same, some award winning actors for example are admired in spite of their controversial views and of course you don't support his attitude as a person, I know that :thumbs::thumbs:
Personally I think public figures have a responsibility to help change views like his but it doesn't impact on their ability to be good performers and it doesn't mean everyone has to agree with me.
I agree with Andy making a stand against him and I think it shows he has courage and integrity by doing so....but the thing I disagreed with most in the post was saying that most people could care less about that stuff...I don't think that's the case and most people do.
Andy thinks the guy should not be awarded because he is homophobic but if people don't think that then of course they are not gonna see it as a positive thing about Andys personality.
If believing himself superior isn't a reason to dislike one as a boxer then believing himself superior shouldn't be a reason to dislike another as a housemate.... I see loads of other reasons people cud not like Andy but I don't think that can be one for people who don't judge the boxer because of it.
Looks like we may have to agree to disagree :laugh: The jury could be out for quite a while on this one :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Oh I'm not saying everyone Jamie,but some who are Georgina fans will turn against whichever housemate confronts her,I get some people don't like Andy as a person and theres no problem with that.:wavey:

you don't mean Maria26 i hope, she's very passionate about supporting Georgina, like i'm passionate about supporting her :)


Kaz, i respect you, Andy and Georgina already made up like adults, so i think we are the only ones still discussing it :hehe:

[hot2go]

Oh I'm not saying everyone Jamie,but some who are Georgina fans will turn against whichever housemate confronts her,I get some people don't like Andy as a person and theres no problem with that.:wavey:

Same...I think this too Kazanne....if I disliked any housemate who wasn't friends with Marco I would now be up sh-t creek without a paddle....

It's not a good basis to work from IMO

I liked Marco, Georgina and Andy yet they all clearly hated each other...:laugh: It has no bearing on my choices

[hot2go]

If every housemate liked Georgina then she would be doing something very wrong....but even more importantly, she would have a really crap profile and would prob get evicted early ...imagine Natalie without her enemy Huey....or Chelsea without his enemy Andrew, the guy was invisible till Andrew arrived....
Georgina's enemy's are as important as her friends...if you wanna keep her profile alive then you should be keeping her enemies in not voting them out....same rule applies to every one of the housemates in there....
If Evelyn and Sam dont get off the fence and start making some enemies they will be toast very soon,
Enemies or competition is a good thing not a bad one.

[Nicky91]

If every housemate liked Georgina then she would be doing something very wrong....but even more importantly, she would have a really crap profile and would prob get evicted early ...imagine Natalie without her enemy Huey....or Chelsea without his enemy Andrew, the guy was invisible till Andrew arrived....
Georgina's enemy's are as important as her friends...if you wanna keep her profile alive then you should be keeping her enemies in not voting them out....same rule applies to every one of the housemates in there....
If Evelyn and Sam dont get off the fence and start making some enemies they will be toast very soon,
Enemies or competition is a good thing not a bad one.

that's true, you need to stay interesting or entertaining, that's why i think Evelyn or Sam might be in a bit trouble, Evelyn disappointed me, i saw a fierce diva in her, i only see a very quiet too shy girl who will be evicted soon

[Lstan]

Like I said on another thread hes ok I would talk to him but he is haughty which would put some people off wanting to talk to him in the house.

[Vanessa]

Like I said on another thread hes ok I would talk to him but he is haughty which would put some people off wanting to talk to him in the house.

I can see Georgina and her posse trying to isolate him.

[Ellen]

I can see Georgina and her posse trying to isolate him.

I agree Vanessa and i also dont think she has let Hoodiegate go either.

[Nicky91]

I agree Vanessa and i also dont think she has let Hoodiegate go either.

they made up Ellen, but the irony of letting things go, we're also still discussing this hoodiegate thing, instead of letting it go :joker:

[Ellen]

they made up Ellen, but the irony of letting things go, we're also still discussing this hoodiegate thing, instead of letting it go :joker:

And probably will until the next Hoodiegate or whatever gate comes along next :joker:

[Lstan]

I can see Georgina and her posse trying to isolate him.

Who's that? I thought this series there were no clique's to speak of (I imagine I have spelt that wrong too lol) also I just remember his diary room segment where he said he was tired of the conversations in the house and the only convo he actually found interesting was, ironically, with Georgina.

[Vanessa]

Who's that? I thought this series there were no clique's to speak of (I imagine I have spelt that wrong too lol) also I just remember his diary room segment where he said he was tired of the conversations in the house and the only convo he actually found interesting was, ironically, with Georgina.

Georgina and Latisha. Not liking these two at all.

[Nicky91]

Georgina and Latisha. Not liking these two at all.

it's Lateysha, but what a coincidence, you don't like both my favourites :joker:

[y.winter]

I find it weird when some housemates (basically Georgina) get hated just because they're too popular with the audience and it mainly the thing that drives the hatred.

I'm surprised with the love the she gets, I'm not used to rooting for the same housemates most of the audience do. It's not a turn-off though, I just don't mind it.

[Lstan]

I'm yet to see any evidence of this.
:hehe:

Just to pick up on another post I thought Andy was gay but someone mentioned hes homophobic? Have I got my wires crossed again?

wait until you see Natalie in the house tonight, i think she'll be nasty and rude to everyone in the house :D
but anyway this is a joke :joker: :laugh:

Now THAT is what I am waiting for I want her to come in and basically rule over those house lol and I think that her and Andy would get on. However all hell may break loose if they argue because neither seem the type to back down.


Georgina and Latisha. Not liking these two at all.

I thought georgina and lateysha didnt like each other? I guess I missed a few bits on account of walking out the room when marco and laura were "getting it on"

[Jamie89]

Oh I'm not saying everyone Jamie,but some who are Georgina fans will turn against whichever housemate confronts her,I get some people don't like Andy as a person and theres no problem with that.:wavey:

In that case I'll have to hope that Emma doesn't get on the wrong side of her again :fc:... Her popularity is struggling enough as it is :laugh:

Well that also fine if you think that, you're right and there are other public figures who are the same, some award winning actors for example are admired in spite of their controversial views and of course you don't support his attitude as a person, I know that :thumbs::thumbs:
Personally I think public figures have a responsibility to help change views like his but it doesn't impact on their ability to be good performers and it doesn't mean everyone has to agree with me.
I agree with Andy making a stand against him and I think it shows he has courage and integrity by doing so....but the thing I disagreed with most in the post was saying that most people could care less about that stuff...I don't think that's the case and most people do.
Andy thinks the guy should not be awarded because he is homophobic but if people don't think that then of course they are not gonna see it as a positive thing about Andys personality.
If believing himself superior isn't a reason to dislike one as a boxer then believing himself superior shouldn't be a reason to dislike another as a housemate.... I see loads of other reasons people cud not like Andy but I don't think that can be one for people who don't judge the boxer because of it.
Looks like we may have to agree to disagree :laugh: The jury could be out for quite a while on this one :laugh:

It's really just this bit that I disagree with...

If believing himself superior isn't a reason to dislike one as a boxer then believing himself superior shouldn't be a reason to dislike another as a housemate

Simply because I'll judge someone's qualities as a boxer based on their performance in the sport, and I'll judge someone's qualities as a housemate based on their personality and views. To me, the equivalent of judging Tyson as a boxer would be judging Andy as a Journalist, believe me if Tyson Fury was on BB he'd be getting a LOT of criticism from me lol, because in that scenario I'd be judging his attitudes. Which is why I don't see it as a contradiction. But yes we should probably agree to disagree on this one :laugh: ;)

[Nicky91]

:hehe:

Just to pick up on another post I thought Andy was gay but someone mentioned hes homophobic? Have I got my wires crossed again?



Now THAT is what I am waiting for I want her to come in and basically rule over those house lol and I think that her and Andy would get on. However all hell may break loose if they argue because neither seem the type to back down.




I thought georgina and lateysha didnt like each other? I guess I missed a few bits on account of walking out the room when marco and laura were "getting it on"

Georgina and Lateysha are becoming very good friends :)

[Vicky.]

...loving him tbh :p

[Nicky91]

I find it weird when some housemates (basically Georgina) get hated just because they're too popular with the audience and it mainly the thing that drives the hatred.

I'm surprised with the love the she gets, I'm not used to rooting for the same housemates most of the audience do. It's not a turn-off though, I just don't mind it.

i am also a little surprised, and i'm enjoying it


i like your opinion, your opinion is like a breath of fresh air, i just love it :)

[Vanessa]

...loving him tbh :p

:clap2:

[Vanessa]

:hehe:

Just to pick up on another post I thought Andy was gay but someone mentioned hes homophobic? Have I got my wires crossed again?



Now THAT is what I am waiting for I want her to come in and basically rule over those house lol and I think that her and Andy would get on. However all hell may break loose if they argue because neither seem the type to back down.




I thought georgina and lateysha didnt like each other? I guess I missed a few bits on account of walking out the room when marco and laura were "getting it on"

They're friends.

[Nicky91]

They're friends.

and i like it very much :)

[hot2go]

His outlook reminds me of Morrissey ...prob why I like him

Also a bit like Matthew in BB 15 too

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also a bit like Matthew in BB 15 too

is that supposed to be a good thing

[hot2go]

is that supposed to be a good thing

Yes...Matthew was the only one that could beat Helen with one line...he too was more emotionally intelligent ...and she knew it...in that way he was like Andy

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmao he didn't beat Helen at all. He's so convinced of his own intelligence, and there was so much he could have said about Helen if he was even slightly perceptive. But no, he's a witless ****.

[joeysteele]

I don't really see him as condescending. In contrast to most of the others he comes across to me as rational, reasonable and discerning. Having a journalists mind it is par for the course that he's going to comment on things in a more critical way than most. He's not rude, he's not loud, he's not attention seeking, he has a sense of humour and he doesn't run around shirtless or bare assed. And he can string whole sentences together. :hee: I'm liking him a lot.

He is probably my Favourite at present anyway.
--I like him and think he is inoffensive.

[jet]

He is probably my Favourite at present anyway.
--I like him and think he is inoffensive.

So pleased you like him too Joey. :wavey: For me is is definitely one of the more interesting HM's with a depth and complexity that hopefully will be revealed more in the coming weeks...a journalist always sees things that most others miss - they kind of have to - and they (by nature of their profession) have critical and analytical mindsets. So it will be interesting to see what he makes of the Others he hasn't met yet and how he reacts to them....

[Yaki da]

he's the best. His diary room sessions have been the highlight to me so far.

When he said "If there's any justice, as Lemar sang"

He showed how witty he really is. :facepalm:

[Yaki da]

Good evening, in the news tonight...

Andy is still an insufferable pompous arse.