"I won't be bullied"

[MrWong]

Oh shut the **** up Andy!

[Samm]

ugh I want him out, he's the most two-faced person in there

[Pete.]

King Andy

[Time]

Gone way down in my estimation

[Adamw92]

Perched for his Week 4 eviction :clap1:

[TomC]

Well they aren't being nice tbf. They've all gone behind his back and totally misinterpreted what he said. I'd feel ganged up on if I were him.

And he's dealt with it so well.

[Lostie!]

Well they aren't being nice tbf. They've all gone behind his back and totally misinterpreted what he said. I'd feel ganged up on if I were him.

And he's dealt with it so well.

Agreed.

He's not being bullied but there is a really unpleasant vibe surrounding him atm.

[Wizard.]

How is he two faced? think people are jumping on a band-wagon here.

[MojoNixon]

ugh I want him out, he's the most two-faced person in there

So is Sam. He was talking about Marco behind his back too.

[LukeB]

How is he two faced? think people are jumping on a band-wagon here.

bitches about Georgina to Jason and then hugs Georgina straight afterwards is an example.

[Lostie!]

bitches about Georgina to Jason and then hugs Georgina straight afterwards is an example.

Wasn't really bitching, he was venting about how he felt. He didn't seem to be insulting her at all.

[Yaki da]

He's got both this superiority complex and persecution complex

[LukeB]

Wasn't really bitching, he was venting about how he felt. He didn't seem to be insulting her at all.

should have spoke to her about it and not Jason. He was talking about her behind her back and acts friendly to her and gives her a hug like nothing happened.

[Vanessa]

Go Andy :cheer2:

[MrWong]

He's got both this superiority complex and persecution complex

Andy in a nutshell.

[Maria26]

Wasn't really bitching, he was venting about how he felt. He didn't seem to be insulting her at all.

Nope. He was bitching. He's a snake.

[Vicky.]

he is not being bullied, BUT they seem to be misinterpreting a lot of what he says and does kinda seem to be the house whipping boy since Marco left...they can't blame Marco for everything anymore so someone has to get the blame :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

He's desperate to capture the victim angle

[Oaker]

tbf the housemates do seem to gang up on him a lot of the time now

[Maria26]

tbf the housemate do seem to gang up on him a lot of the time now

Like they did with Georgina. But I think waht doesn't work with Andy is that he looks arrogant and condescending half the time.

[Amy Jade]

tbf the housemate do seem to gang up on him a lot of the time now

They only went against him tonight because he said he'd rather see some of them go over the others. Even if it's true it's not shocking to think it'd upset people

[Yaki da]

They only went against him tonight because he said he'd rather see some of them go over the others. Even if it's true it's not shocking to think it'd upset people

The underlying meaning was "You bastards nominated me so why should I be a team player?"

They also nominated Emma and Georgina...

[hot2go]

Andy is Legend...time to start targeting the gang of little bitches with biggest bitch of them all, the self serving Snidey little Blackpool Queen.

[Maria26]

The underlying meaning was "You bastards nominated me so why should I be a team player?"

They also nominated Emma and Georgina...

and yet, you didn't see the girls playing solo. They were all for team work.

[Wizard.]

I predict Georgina will become a bitch now and because Marco isn't there she won't come across as a victim but more as the bully

[Maria26]

Andy is Legend...time to start targeting the gang of little bitches with biggest bitch of them all, the self serving Snidey little Blackpool Queen.

Andy is the biggest bitch of them all :laugh:

[hot2go]

Georgina was in the wrong over the hoody and she has twisted it save face ...I don't like it but at least she has a reason....Laura, Evelyn and Snidey Sam have no reason to get involved at all....just two faced little bitches all of em.
Public won't appreciate Andy being treated like that.

[Kazanne]

he is not being bullied, BUT they seem to be misinterpreting a lot of what he says and does kinda seem to be the house whipping boy since Marco left...they can't blame Marco for everything anymore so someone has to get the blame :laugh:

:clap1::clap1:Spot on Vicky

[LukeB]

Georgina was in the wrong over the hoody and she has twisted it save face ...I don't like it but at least she has a reason....Laura, Evelyn and Snidey Sam have no reason to get involved at all....just two faced little bitches all of em.
Public won't appreciate Andy being treated like that.

How was she in the wrong? Her hoody was on the floor wet it was her personal belongings that housemates should have respected. No one came forward. It may be only a hoody but it's hers and no one respected it.

[MrWong]

Georgina was in the wrong over the hoody and she has twisted it save face ...I don't like it but at least she has a reason....Laura, Evelyn and Snidey Sam have no reason to get involved at all....just two faced little bitches all of em.
Public won't appreciate Andy being treated like that.

Do you think the public will buy that he's being bullied?

I don't.

[joeysteele]

A bit of rich of Sam sitting there having him explain himself as to the comment on Marco leaving, especially since Sam was one of those who nommed Marco.

Georgina was in my view out of line tonight in the highlights, she is sadly going to appear as coming across spiteful if she persists.

[Lostie!]

Nope. He was bitching. He's a snake.

Bitching would require him to be saying nasty things about Georgina. He only commented on how unfair he felt her comments were, we never saw him actually insult her.

So no, not bitching whatsoever.

[Vicky.]

I predict Georgina will become a bitch now and because Marco isn't there she won't come across as a victim but more as the bully

I think a lot of her sudden popularity was based on the fact that many disliked Marco and she seemed the only one willing to 'go against' him so to speak. Marco will be forgotten completely before long, meanwhile she is still moaning and picking at everything the others (mainly Andy right now) do. She may lose popularity UNLESS she lightens up after the house merge, which I bloody hope she does as her one liners and such in the first couple of days were hilarious.

A lot of the time favorites are picked based on who people dislike the most (anti-Aarons suddenly loving Jay, anti-Dexter suddenly supporting Sam...etc etc), its a trend I have noticed year after year. It MAY not be the case here, but I do suspect it is.

[fitz2k2]

Well they aren't being nice tbf. They've all gone behind his back and totally misinterpreted what he said. I'd feel ganged up on if I were him.

And he's dealt with it so well.

100% agree

[Lostie!]

I think a lot of her sudden popularity was based on the fact that many disliked Marco and she seemed the only one willing to 'go against' him so to speak. Marco will be forgotten completely before long, meanwhile she is still moaning and picking at everything the others (mainly Andy right now) do. She may lose popularity UNLESS she lightens up after the house merge, which I bloody hope she does as her one liners and such in the first couple of days were hilarious.

A lot of the time favorites are picked based on who people dislike the most (anti-Aarons suddenly loving Jay, anti-Dexter suddenly supporting Sam...etc etc), its a trend I have noticed year after year. It MAY not be the case here, but I do suspect it is.

I agree with this, I'm guilty of it. Marco annoyed the hell out of me so I just enjoyed seeing someone go against him and voice what were also my views. :laugh:

[BB247]

Oh shut the **** up Andy!

He's trying to pull the sympathy card to the viewers.
Grow a pair mate, your the second oldest in the original house.

[hot2go]

Andy is Legend

Sorry to the nice Georgina fans but that's me done, don't want the association ...,she can go and bollox ...I don't like the company she keeps.

Team Andy, Team Jackson, Team Natalie, Team Jason, Tean Alex

Waiting in the wings ...Charlie, Huey, Emma

[Maria26]

Andy is Legend

Sorry to the nice Georgina fans but that's me done, don't want the association ...,she can go and bollox ...I don't like the company she keeps.

Team Andy, Team Jackson, Team Natalie, Team Jason, Tean Alex

Waiting in the wings ...Charlie, Huey, Emma

As if Andy's company was any better. Ugh! That's a big NO for me. :nono:

[Vicky.]

I agree with this, I'm guilty of it. Marco annoyed the hell out of me so I just enjoyed seeing someone go against him and voice what were also my views. :laugh:

I understand it..I don't *think* I have ever been swayed that way but I expect I could be. I do know I liked Freddie a hell of a lot more in BB10 once he stood up to Lisa which I could not stand, so maybe that happened to me also :laugh:

Also, your signature, is that Kai from the vampire diaries? :suspect:

Edit. of course it is, just noticed the quote. Amazing character :D

[BB-J*I*N*X]

I will no longer support him, such a lying dullard

[armand.kay]

A tragic attempt to snatch the victim card.

[Lostie!]

I understand it..I don't *think* I have ever been swayed that way but I expect I could be. I do know I liked Freddie a hell of a lot more in BB10 once he stood up to Lisa which I could not stand, so maybe that happened to me also :laugh:

Also, your signature, is that Kai from the vampire diaries? :suspect:

Edit. of course it is, just noticed the quote. Amazing character :D

:joker:

In fiction I love the evil ones the most but in BB I'm all for the nice guys :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Andy is Legend

Sorry to the nice Georgina fans but that's me done, don't want the association ...,she can go and bollox ...I don't like the company she keeps.

Team Andy, Team Jackson, Team Natalie, Team Jason, Tean Alex

Waiting in the wings ...Charlie, Huey, Emma

Georgina and her posse are looking like bullies to me. Any excuse to put Andy down. I can't stand that lot :nono:

[BB247]

he is not being bullied, BUT they seem to be misinterpreting a lot of what he says and does kinda seem to be the house whipping boy since Marco left...they can't blame Marco for everything anymore so someone has to get the blame :laugh:

Marco who?:joker:
Completely forgot about him during this episode, he's a distant memory.

[hot2go]

Georgina and her posse are looking like bullies to me. Any excuse to put Andy down. I can't stand that lot :nono:

They isolated and nominated Marco ...plus the bonus ball, Jayne who ****ed him like the slag she is

Now they're bullying Andy....

Can't wait to see how it works out with the others....Natalie may have a mouth on her but it could prove a great thing in shutting that click down.

[Vanessa]

Thankfully Andy is quite liked on the outside, so we won't lose him :hee:

[Vanessa]

They isolated and nominated Marco ...plus the bonus ball, Jayne who ****ed him like the slag she is

Now they're bullying Andy....

Can't wait to see how it works out with the others....Natalie may have a mouth on her but it could prove a great thing in shutting that click down.

Andy will be fine. He's a smart guy and he will also stand up for himself.

[hot2go]

Thankfully Andy is quite liked on the outside, so we won't lose him :hee:

The public aren't cretins, they watched what we watched.

[Vanessa]

The public aren't cretins, they watched what we watched.

You know what? If Andy carries on like this he might even become my favourite alongside Ryan :wavey:

[hot2go]

First time Evelyn opens her gob and it's to yap like a little corn fed parrot ....needs a gang behind her to speak...get your tits out for the lads and hide behind the bigger girls when you put the knife in.....she'll be gone soon enough....trashy little coward

[MrWong]

Thankfully Andy is quite liked on the outside, so we won't lose him :hee:

The public aren't cretins, they watched what we watched.

Are you suggesting that forum members are cretins for seeing things differently?

[Vanessa]

Are you suggesting that forum members are cretins for seeing things differently?

Everyone has their own opinions.

[MrWong]

Everyone has their own opinions.

That's fine when discussing hm's, not forum members.

[Vanessa]

That's fine when discussing hm's, not forum members.

I'm not discussing forum members. I just think Andy is quite liked, so unlikely to go.

[MrWong]

I'm not discussing forum members. I just think Andy is quite liked, so unlikely to go.

:umm2: I didn't accuse you of calling people cretins did i?

I just don't want the thread littered with indirects. It's annoying.

[hot2go]

Georgina played victim after being exposed as a **** stirer the other night.....Andys not desperate for anything, he knows who he is and doesn't need to play woe is me games...he's better than they are and would sooner be evicted than sink to their immaturity ...great guy....silly little girls.
Bet they'll be busy tonight, Evelyn needs to go and get her tits out again and Laura has got to find a new f-ck to sustain any interest from the public.....busy busy busy

[Vanessa]

:umm2: I didn't accuse you of calling people cretins did i?

I just don't want the thread littered with indirects. It's annoying.

I'm not using indirects. I told you I think Andy is liked. That's all I meant.

[Vanessa]

Georgina played victim after being exposed as a **** stirer the other night.....Andys not desperate for anything, he knows who he is and doesn't need to play woe is me games...he's better than they are and would sooner be evicted than sink to their immaturity ...great guy....silly little girls.
Bet they'll be busy tonight, Evelyn needs to go and get her tits out again and Laura has got to find a new f-ck to sustain any interest from the public.....busy busy busy

Georgina and Latisha are my least favourite. Can't stand them. Not keen on any of the girls, to be honest. Except Natalie.

[MrWong]

I'm not using indirects. I told you I think Andy is liked. That's all I meant.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I've pointed out twice now what the indirect was (the use of the word cretin) I've also pointed out that you didn't say it. JFC!

[Vanessa]

Georgina played victim after being exposed as a **** stirer the other night.....Andys not desperate for anything, he knows who he is and doesn't need to play woe is me games...he's better than they are and would sooner be evicted than sink to their immaturity ...great guy....silly little girls.
Bet they'll be busy tonight, Evelyn needs to go and get her tits out again and Laura has got to find a new f-ck to sustain any interest from the public.....busy busy busy

Liking Andy a lot. He's showing integrity and also standing up for himself. I would rather he wins than Georgina.

[hot2go]

Georgina has backed the wrong horses....silly girl...thought she was smarter than that....

Evelyn's friends and family have prob already booked her return flight home it's that obvious she's history.

Laura won't fair any better than Marco did ...the crowd have had the boys blood, they sure as hell will come after the girl...public saw it all and she is gonna be loathed.

Sam is already wanking his own ego in prep for Huey....when he slimes his lumpy head over to Hueys side before very quickly working his way round to his front, the public will get him....Ryan far too popular and powerful now, Sam is finished.

Georgina's gonna lose her support network....and Andy will just have a ring side seat when she does.

[Vanessa]

Georgina has backed the wrong horses....silly girl...thought she was smarter than that....

Evelyn's friends and family have prob already booked her return flight home it's that obvious she's history.

Laura won't fair any better than Marco did ...the crowd have had the boys blood, they sure as hell will come after the girl...public saw it all and she is gonna be loathed.

Sam is already wanking his own ego in prep for Huey....when he slimes his lumpy head over to Hueys side before very quickly working his way round to his front, the public will get him....Ryan far too popular and powerful now, Sam is finished.

Georgina's gonna lose her support network....and Andy will just have a ring side seat when she does.

At the moment I'm liking Andy and Jason a lot. Hope they make the final.

[hot2go]

Georgina and Latisha are my least favourite. Can't stand them. Not keen on any of the girls, to be honest. Except Natalie.

You like Natalie ? That's just brilliant Vanessa....shame she didn't meet Marco, he would have flirted with her and she would have loved it....she wud have slapped his arse if he stepped over the mark instead of running off to the diary room like Laura and Georgina and Lateysha ....great opportunity lost but all the same, she's gonna scare the crap out of those little girls and there little games

[Vanessa]

You like Natalie ? That's just brilliant Vanessa....shame she didn't meet Marco, he would have flirted with her and she would have loved it....she wud have slapped his arse if he stepped over the mark instead of running off to the diary room like Laura and Georgina and Lateysha ....great opportunity lost but all the same, she's gonna scare the crap out of those little girls and there little games

Yes I like her. Hope she won't go this week.

[MrWong]

Georgina has backed the wrong horses....silly girl...thought she was smarter than that....

Evelyn's friends and family have prob already booked her return flight home it's that obvious she's history.

Laura won't fair any better than Marco did ...the crowd have had the boys blood, they sure as hell will come after the girl...public saw it all and she is gonna be loathed.

Sam is already wanking his own ego in prep for Huey....when he slimes his lumpy head over to Hueys side before very quickly working his way round to his front, the public will get him....Ryan far too popular and powerful now, Sam is finished.

Georgina's gonna lose her support network....and Andy will just have a ring side seat when she does.

Nice fan fiction.

You've forgotten her mates Jackson and Alex. What's going to happen to them?

[Yaki da]

Andys not desperate for anything, he knows who he is and doesn't need to play woe is me games...

so why is he using the "Bully" word?

he's better than they are

And doesn't he just know it.

[hot2go]

At the moment I'm liking Andy and Jason a lot. Hope they make the final.

Me too...Andy and Jason are great.....Andy didn't make Georgina's mistake, no, Andys a clever boy so he is :laugh: the horse he backed was Jason...good old Jason...Jason who is mates me Jackson and Alex and Chelsea....Jason who will prob be liked by Huey and by Natalie....Jason who already has Charlie on his side....popular boy is our Jase ....yeh, Andy, he be clever boy too....he backed the right horse

New rules, new team, new divides ...it's exciting isn't it ? :laugh::laugh:

[Vanessa]

so why is he using the "Bully" word?



And doesn't he just know it.

I think Andy feels picked on.

[Vanessa]

Me too...Andy and Jason are great.....Andy didn't make Georgina's mistake, no, Andys a clever boy so he is :laugh: the horse he backed was Jason...good old Jason...Jason who is mates me Jackson and Alex and Chelsea....Jason who will prob be liked by Huey and by Natalie....Jason who already has Charlie on his side....popular boy is our Jase ....yeh, Andy, he be clever boy too....he backed the right horse

New rules, new team, new divides ...it's exciting isn't it ? :laugh::laugh:

I like Jackson, but he needs to watch that temper.

[hot2go]

Andy def being manipulated and targeted ...no question....they're not even clever enough to make it appear anything other than what it is....Laura is the brightest of the young girls but blew it when she blew the millionaires son.
If brains were dynamite Evelyn and Lateysha couldn't blow their own noses.....and Georginas gonna end up with only card left and that's Jackson but having now seen how she manipulates innocent housemates, she better hope he doesn't find that a huge turn off.

[Mystic Mock]

Oh god his not becoming a male Jale is he?

[Mystic Mock]

:joker:

In fiction I love the evil ones the most but in BB I'm all for the nice guys :laugh:

I just think that villains make better TV in fictional or Reality TV.

[MojoNixon]

Marco who?:joker:
Completely forgot about him during this episode, he's a distant memory.


:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

First time Evelyn opens her gob and it's to yap like a little corn fed parrot ....needs a gang behind her to speak...get your tits out for the lads and hide behind the bigger girls when you put the knife in.....she'll be gone soon enough....trashy little coward

What's that got to do with this discussion?

Do you complain when the guys take their shirts off?

[hot2go]

I think Natalie will get along with Andy and she could become queen of the house....she's stronger than the young girls and stronger than Jayne no question

[jaxie]

Oh shut the **** up Andy!

:clap1: I couldn't have put it better.

[MrWong]

so why is he using the "Bully" word?


Either he's woe is me or he is manipulating the viewers

[Vanessa]

I think Natalie will get along with Andy and she could become queen of the house....she's stronger than the young girls and stronger than Jayne no question
Yes I agree. I really hope she doesn't go. We need a strong female in there.

[hot2go]

What's that got to do with this discussion?

Do you complain when the guys take their shirts off?

What's it got to do with the discussion ? Don't you know the discussion is about Andy being bullied ?

She was one of the rock apes sat on the bench with the knives out...she's very relevant to the topic.....and it's great isn't it ? Cause she's finally no longer Evelyn the Incredibke Invisible Woman....granted, she is only visible with the support of the other 3, but at least she's trying.....very

[MrWong]

Asking someone what they mean't and being given the opportunity to clear it up equals bullying now? :D

He failed to clear up his reason for targeting the hm's rather than the others when they were supposed to be working as a team however.

[jet]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

[Vanessa]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Andy to win! :cheer2:

[Vicky.]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Pretty sure the housemates did too, was quite obvious ;)

[hot2go]

Andy did great against the other three I thought....in fact he clobbered Sam into such silence that Sam walked away...pretty much like he did when Andy said he didn't believe his ghost story....Andy prob feels good that one of the people trying to pick on him actually always runs away when the going gets tough....Andy already proving stronger than Sam

[hot2go]

Andy to win! :cheer2:

Yeh, Andy to win...I like Andy :dance:

[Yaki da]

I think Andy feels picked on.

Looks to me like he was playing the victim and trying to make the others out to be bullies. When at worst, they just don't like him and had a task where they had to voice some of their views.

Remember that the tweets read out suggested he was sly, so it's not like they're not being fed info by the producers to make them think this way as well.

[hot2go]

I wonder how the house dynamics will change when the others arrive and at least 3 of them say they consider Andy to be a great guy....I even think Andys situation in relation to the topic will be helped along by Ryan..esp if Sam makes a play for Huey....I might start to like Ryan, that would be a massive Uturn for me but one I would welcome if it will help Andy...

[jet]

Pretty sure the housemates did too, was quite obvious ;)

Yeah, it was obvious to most of the HM's no doubt, and to us. So why do you think those 3 quizzed him if they already knew the answer? Isn't that just ganging up for the sake of it?

[Vanessa]

I wonder how the house dynamics will change when the others arrive and at least 3 of them say they consider Andy to be a great guy....I even think Andys situation in relation to the topic will be helped along by Ryan..esp if Sam makes a play for Huey....I might start to like Ryan, that would be a massive Uturn for me but one I would welcome if it will help Andy...
Andy will have some friends, so i'm happy for him.

[hot2go]

So this week Geirgina hates Andy...last week she hated Marco...I wonder who it will be next week ...I must admit, she seemed much warmer when she wasn't so bitter towards people at the start of the show...

[Vicky.]

Yeah, it was obvious to most of the HM's no doubt, and to us. So why do you think those 3 quizzed him if they already knew the answer? Isn't that just ganging up for the sake of it?

Just to have a go. 2 of them walked away once he explained himself perfectly well, without even ****ing saying anything. Its ridiculous. I think Sam is the driving force mind. I kinda believe Laura is ridiculously easily led as she seems so desperate to be liked. I don't think she had an actual problem until Sams spent the day bitching and twisting it.

All just my opinion of course :p

[hot2go]

Andy will have some friends, so i'm happy for him.

Me too....Marco didn't have any friends when it happened to him, they had been sent next door sadly but Andy in a very good position to win this one against what's taking place right now ...he is liked by housemates and by public....2 guys in a row have left now, pretty sure if public get chance, next one will be a female ...another strong position for Andy

[MrWong]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

I assumed he aimed his comment at Marco. His explanation did make sense though.

He struggled with his explanation for targeting his hm's over the others though because his reason was petty (being butthurt over being nominated).

[Mystic Mock]

What's it got to do with the discussion ? Don't you know the discussion is about Andy being bullied ?

She was one of the rock apes sat on the bench with the knives out...she's very relevant to the topic.....and it's great isn't it ? Cause she's finally no longer Evelyn the Incredibke Invisible Woman....granted, she is only visible with the support of the other 3, but at least she's trying.....very

You was slagging her off for taking her clothes off which wasn't relevant to the discussion.

I'm also wondering (which you haven't answered yet) if say Alex started walking around topless would you complain and start calling him names? Or is it okay to pick on the pretty girl?

[Vanessa]

Me too....Marco didn't have any friends when it happened to him, they had been sent next door sadly but Andy in a very good position to win this one against what's taking place right now ...he is liked by housemates and by public....2 guys in a row have left now, pretty sure if public get chance, next one will be a female ...another strong position for Andy

Yes I hope so. And if he's ever nominated against Georgina we will fight to keep him in :dance:

[hot2go]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Bang on the nail.....brilliant post ....

[Vicky.]

I missed the first 15 mins of the show as husband had top gear on which had been paused so we could bath the kids, whats this about targeting the housemates instead of the others? His explanations while talking to Jason have made sense to me if its about that tbh, saying he has no loyalty simply because they entered at the same time and if he gets on with someone from over there then his loyalties change...don't see the issue with that. But I am assuming something else happened? :suspect:

[hot2go]

Yes I hope so. And if he's ever nominated against Georgina we will fight to keep him in :dance:

Oh 100% ....

[Yaki da]

Andy's spinning a narrative like he knows how to do and some of you are falling for it.

Rule number 1 of watching BB... The moment someone starts using the "Bully" word when there is nothing even remotely close to such behaviour going on, that person is trying to manipulate you.

[Wizard.]

It all comes down to the fact that Andy is successful and intelligent with a long-term partner and his own house whereas Sam just goes out and parties all weekend probably lives with his mum, is single and lonely and bitter and jealous.

[hot2go]

Andy is prepared to lose the task and keep his loyalties to his mates on the other side....I hope that happens....this topic had proven he should have no loyalty to at least 4 people in main house....he will prob laugh if they end up on basic rations and have nervous breakdowns cause there's no hot water....so many ways he can make them pay for tonight's little witch hunt...makes the show that bit more exciting I think

[Mystic Mock]

Andy's spinning a narrative like he knows how to do and some of you are falling for it.

Rule number 1 of watching BB... The moment someone starts using the "Bully" word when there is nothing even remotely close to such behaviour going on, that person is trying to manipulate you.

Imo all of the real bullying that goes on in BB has never been realised by the victim until they've left the house.

People that say they're being bullied like Andy and Jale really make me dubious and not trust them as they're trying to treat me like a fool.

And btw this is speaking as someone that's disliked Georgina from the very start and still do now, but I feel like Andy's making her out to be worse than she actually is which is just a miserable girl who puts on a fake Posh accent.

[hot2go]

It all comes down to the fact that Andy is successful and intelligent with a long-term partner and his own house whereas Sam just goes out and parties all weekend probably lives with his mum, is single and lonely and bitter and jealous.

Absolutely

[jet]

I assumed he aimed his comment at Marco. His explanation did make sense though.

He struggled with his explanation for targeting his hm's over the others though because his reason was petty (being butthurt over being nominated).

He was being honest instead of making up some lame excuse. It takes balls to say what you really feel.

[hot2go]

The others are gonna want to know who nominated Marco, they're not happy about it at all....when they hear about tonight's little charade they will work it out very easily.....that could also go in Andys favour....so many twists and turns can happen and not only by Snidey Sam and his girls.....very housemate can play games like that and prob a lot better too

[Yaki da]

It all comes down to the fact that Andy is successful and intelligent

Then why do so many of us watching see him for the smug and snide person that we think he is then?


with a long-term partner and his own house whereas Sam just goes out and parties all weekend probably lives with his mum, is single and lonely and bitter and jealous.

Alternatively, Andy is an insufferably pompous arse who says things which are designed to rub people up the wrong way. Sometimes in a passive aggressive manner.

[hot2go]

He was being honest instead of making up some lame excuse. It takes balls to say what you really feel.

Yeh it does....Andy has dignity in dealing with morons instead of moaning like Georgina and coming across as a miserable housemate....people like to see self respect

[Yaki da]

He was being honest instead of making up some lame excuse. It takes balls to say what you really feel.

Aren't the others just being honest about how the feel about him? Why aren't you congratulating them for their balls?

[Wizard.]

Well we dont see 24 hours like for all we know they kick the sh*t out of him but it looks like he is just a complainer. Extreme example I know.

[MrWong]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Andy did it in a sly way. Methodically pointing out Marco's faults one by one to the viewers. "Forceful" "disrespectful to women" etc.. all dressed up as friendly advice :D

[Yaki da]

Yeh it does....Andy has dignity in dealing with morons instead of moaning like Georgina and coming across as a miserable housemate....people like to see self respect

So, essentially, people are just going to defend Andy as being superior intellectually and morally to everyone, therefore he can be as condescending, snide, patronising, smug and as antagonistic as he wants. All of which he has been. Which is the real reason they haven't warmed to him.

With one comment this guy made others out to be bullies, himself to be a victim, but one who will stand up for himself against the bullies.

As I said. He has both a superiority complex and a persecution complex, and he's manipulative as well. Casting himself as the innocent victim standing up to those beneath him.

[jet]

Then why do so many of us watching see him for the smug and snide person that we think he is then?




Alternatively, Andy is an insufferably pompous arse who says things which are designed to rub people up the wrong way. Sometimes in a passive aggressive manner.

I have no idea why a minority see him as smug, snide and a passive aggressive pompous arse because the majority do not think he is not any of those things. :smug:

[Yaki da]

I have no idea why a minority see him as smug, snide and a passive aggressive pompous arse because the majority do not think he is not any of those things. :smug:

There seem to be quite a few in this thread who see him that way.

[jet]

Aren't the others just being honest about how the feel about him? Why aren't you congratulating them for their balls?

I would if I they had any.

[Yaki da]

I would if I they had any.

They were being honest and told him what they felt. If you think being honest takes balls, then you should recognise that they have been honest with their feelings.

[jet]

Andy did it in a sly way. Methodically pointing out Marco's faults one by one to the viewers. "Forceful" "disrespectful to women" etc.. all dressed up as friendly advice :D

It was good advice meant to help Marco and he didn't nominate him, whereas Sam was all sweetness to his face then stabbed him behind his back. Marco was very hurt by that.

[Vicky.]

Andy did it in a sly way. Methodically pointing out Marco's faults one by one to the viewers. "Forceful" "disrespectful to women" etc.. all dressed up as friendly advice :D

A lot of them did this. I genuinely do not think Andy expected Marco to leave...whole house, including the others were massively shocked. He seemed to look a bit shocked top hear his own cheers too.

[jet]

They were being honest and told him what they felt. If you think being honest takes balls, then you should recognise that they have been honest with their feelings.

Honest my ass. They knew darn well what he meant when he said about the reality check when Marco was evicted, they just wanted to have a go. 3 against 1 picking on him and then not even apologising to him for thinking wrongly, but just getting up and walking away. How bloody rude.

[hot2go]

Aren't the others just being honest about how the feel about him? Why aren't you congratulating them for their balls?

Well not entirely....Georgina isn't being honest about the situation over the hoody....she was totally dishonest in every way

And Snidey Sam,Evelyn and Laura weren't being honest when they tired to twist what he said when Marco left the house....anyone would know that it wasn't a slur against Marco but a realisation that the public and the show this time are very unpredictable....
And just like Georgina the other night, they too didn't bother to ask Andy about it first or ask Andy what he meant by it....instead they bitched about it behind his back then went together to use it against him and make him look bad....exactly like Georgina did with the hoody....
So no, I wouldn't feel inclined to congratulate any one if them for being honest, cause honest was the last thing they were all being.

[hot2go]

Honest my ass. They knew darn well what he meant when he said about the reality check when Marco was evicted, they just wanted to have a go. 3 against 1 picking on him and then not even apologising to him for thinking wrongly, but just getting up and walking away. How bloody rude.

No manners any of em

[jet]

Well not entirely....Georgina isn't being honest about the situation over the hoody....she was totally dishonest in every way

And Snidey Sam,Evelyn and Laura weren't being honest when they tired to twist what he said when Marco left the house....anyone would know that it wasn't a slur against Marco but a realisation that the public and the show this time are very unpredictable....
And just like Georgina the other night, they too didn't bother to ask Andy about it first or ask Andy what he meant by it....instead they bitched about it behind his back then went together to use it against him and make him look bad....exactly like Georgina did with the hoody....
So no, I wouldn't feel inclined to congratulate any one if them for being honest, cause honest was the last thing they were all being.

Every word spot on!

[hot2go]

They've shown there vindictive side way too early in the show and it cud very well be an own goal for Georgina and Sam....Laura and Evelyn don't matter cause they're finished before they start anyway ...Evelyn cause she gives nothing to us and Laura cause she's the gift that keeps on giving then stopping, then giving again, then stopping.....they're both out soon.

[MrWong]

It was good advice meant to help Marco and he didn't nominate him, whereas Sam was all sweetness to his face then stabbed him behind his back. Marco was very hurt by that.

It put ideas in viewers heads that that might not have even been thought about. Such as "forceful". He pointed a spotlight at all of Marco's faults, reminding viewers how awful he'd been.

[Jamie89]

Actually can't believe I'm about to defend Andy lol... but I don't think he really considers himself to be a victim of bullying. I think sometimes we jump on that word when it's used, but I don't think he meant it in an accusatory way, it seemed to me like he just said it without really thinking, because he was feeling slightly targeted. And regardless of the reasons why, or if it was justified, he certainly was targeted by people tonight, so it's understandable how he felt. Being someone who's normally so sure of himself... and being someone who seems so judgemental of others, having it turned around and being judged negatively himself. It took him off guard, and I felt like we saw a more insecure Andy... and I found it a little endearing tbh.

[MrWong]

A lot of them did this. I genuinely do not think Andy expected Marco to leave...whole house, including the others were massively shocked. He seemed to look a bit shocked top hear his own cheers too.

He was one of the only hm's that speculated that he could leave.

[Vicky.]

He was one of the only hm's that speculated that he could leave.

Speculating it can happen is rather different from expecting it to happen :laugh: Anything could happen

[hot2go]

Bit of luck, and with Andys help, it will be the others nominating this week and that will put this little crowd up against each other...it won't be Andy or Jason ....

Then they can experience what it's like to be targeted and to manipulated with lies because they will be doing it to each other....see how wonderful people think Sam and Laura are when they turn on Georgina to save their own arse...and she'll be the target cause they can use her moaning as the excuse.

I think they prob did Andy a favour tonight if anything ....what goes around....

[rionablue]

Oh shut the **** up Andy!

I don't know HOW he got picked as a housemate. He is a complete snob and doesn't fit in with the group. I don't think he has ANY friends in there. I kinda liked him at the start but he is totally boring now

[MrWong]

Speculating it can happen is rather different from expecting it to happen :laugh: Anything could happen

Everyone else thought Marco was staying. Andy thought there was a chance that Marco could go based on him being disrespectful to women.

[jet]

It put ideas in viewers heads that that might not have even been thought about. Such as "forceful". He pointed a spotlight at all of Marco's faults, reminding viewers how awful he'd been.

The viewers have eyes and ears. They can see for themselves what Marco was like. :joker:
tbh I don't recall Andy talking about Marco any more than some of the others, but I missed an episode. Was this in the DR or what? I remember Georgina running Marco down continuously though.

[MrWong]

The viewers have eyes and ears. They can see for themselves what Marco was like. :joker:
tbh I don't recall Andy talking about Marco any more than some of the others, but I missed an episode. Was this in the DR or what? I remember Georgina running Marco down continuously though.

He pulled Marco aside to the snug for some friendly advice then proceeded to point out every character flaw.

[jet]

He pulled Marco aside to the snug for some friendly advice then proceeded to point out every character flaw.

Oh I did see that...I thought he gave him good advice actually and thought it was well meant. You didn't mention Georgina pointing out how awful he was at every opportunity or Laytesha pulling him up about his hall pass and engagement... is it just Andy who isn't allowed to speak...

[hot2go]

The viewers have eyes and ears. They can see for themselves what Marco was like. :joker:
tbh I don't recall Andy talking about Marco any more than some of the others, but I missed an episode. Was this in the DR or what? I remember Georgina running Marco down continuously though.

Andy told BB he thought Marco was behaving in a way that could get him in trouble ....he didn't directly accuse him off anything....he then took Marco to the den alone and spoke frankly to him about how he may be perceived and how because he's the guy it could make Laura look victimised.....obv Marco defended himself and rightfully pointed out that Laura chased him as much as he chased her and that it takes two to tango....Marco rightfully did not accept more then his own half of the blame and Andy agreed....Andy was trying to warn him how it could look not how it was ...Andy was trying to help him and Marco said he understood that's what Andy was doing...they hugged and Andy apologised for being so serious but he was doing it cause he cared about him....nothing sinister about it....lots of room and scope tho to have the words and the situation twisted into something ugly by others....that's why Andy took him to the den to do it.

[Zzz]

I like Andy. I hope he keeps strong and becomes friends with one of the others. Hopefully Hughie. I really want these two to get along with each other. They'll make a strong team.

[jet]

Andy told BB he thought Marco was behaving in a way that could get him in trouble ....he didn't directly accuse him off anything....he then took Marco to the den alone and spoke frankly to him about how he may be perceived and how because he's the guy it could make Laura look victimised.....obv Marco defended himself and rightfully pointed out that Laura chased him as much as he chased her and that it takes two to tango....Marco rightfully did not accept more then his own half of the blame and Andy agreed....Andy was trying to warn him how it could look not how it was ...Andy was trying to help him and Marco said he understood that's what Andy was doing...they hugged and Andy apologised for being so serious but he was doing it cause he cared about him....nothing sinister about it....lots of room and scope tho to have the words and the situation twisted into something ugly by others....that's why Andy took him to the den to do it.

Thanks hot2go. I remember Andy giving him well meaning advice, but not the details.

[MrWong]

Oh I did see that...I thought he gave him good advice actually and thought it was well meant. You didn't mention Georgina pointing out how awful he was at every opportunity or Laytesha pulling him up about his hall pass and engagement... is it just Andy who isn't allowed to speak...

Actually I did at the time.

I've also pointed out how awful Georgina is in numerous threads.

[Vicky.]

I like Andy. I hope he keeps strong and becomes friends with one of the others. Hopefully Hughie. I really want these two to get along with each other. They'll make a strong team.

I can see him getting along with Natalie. She seems like one he can talk to about something other than fake tits and parties :laugh:

[jet]

Actually I did at the time.

I've also pointed out how awful Georgina is in numerous threads.

My apologies then, I shouldn't have made assumptions. Sorry!

[MrWong]

My apologies then, I shouldn't have made assumptions. Sorry!

Thanks.

Yeah i'm not part of the Georgina vs Andy thing. I dislike both, for various reasons.

[Ammi]

Andy did it in a sly way. Methodically pointing out Marco's faults one by one to the viewers. "Forceful" "disrespectful to women" etc.. all dressed up as friendly advice :D

..yeah I have to say that this is the thing that I'm really still quite undecided with Andy../I like him but hmmmm, does he 'give advice' etc or is he pointing out negative things to the public just to make sure that we say...ahh, yeah that's true...anyways, either way I am finding him very interesting and maybe one of the most interesting people in there..but I'm on to him and watching him closely, Mr Wong, don't you worry...:pipe:...

[Nicky91]

Bit of luck, and with Andys help, it will be the others nominating this week and that will put this little crowd up against each other...it won't be Andy or Jason ....

Then they can experience what it's like to be targeted and to manipulated with lies because they will be doing it to each other....see how wonderful people think Sam and Laura are when they turn on Georgina to save their own arse...and she'll be the target cause they can use her moaning as the excuse.

I think they prob did Andy a favour tonight if anything ....what goes around....

well luckily the others have to nominate, and not the main housemates :)

[Vanessa]

Good man Andy. I really think he could win :clap1:

[Garfie]

He's got both this superiority complex and persecution complex

You know, I think you could have a point here. Very observant. I'm going to give that idea some thought.

[Garfie]

Andy did it in a sly way. Methodically pointing out Marco's faults one by one to the viewers. "Forceful" "disrespectful to women" etc.. all dressed up as friendly advice :D

Yes, I thought he was doing that alongside offering good advice. It seemed to me he was highlighting the negative in Marco, and I did wonder if the friendship was entirely sincere.

[MrWong]

..yeah I have to say that this is the thing that I'm really still quite undecided with Andy../I like him but hmmmm, does he 'give advice' etc or is he pointing out negative things to the public just to make sure that we say...ahh, yeah that's true...anyways, either way I am finding him very interesting and maybe one of the most interesting people in there..but I'm on to him and watching him closely, Mr Wong, don't you worry...:pipe:...

Yes, I thought he was doing that alongside offering good advice. It seemed to me he was highlighting the negative in Marco, and I did wonder if the friendship was entirely sincere.

If he owns it as part of his strategy and lets us in on it, for instance via the diary room, then great but he seems to be trying to fool the viewers with his claim of being bullied. That's not so great.

[Garfie]

If he owns it as part of his strategy and lets us in on it, for instance via the diary room, then great but he seems to be trying to fool the viewers with his claim of being bullied. That's not so great.

Yes, I would respect him for it, if it was a game plan, and he admitted that. I think you've got his number though, Mr Wong.

[Mystic Mock]

Actually I did at the time.

I've also pointed out how awful Georgina is in numerous threads.

Do you dislike all of the Housemates like I do? I'm literally just watching this series out of loyalty.

[hot2go]

well luckily the others have to nominate, and not the main housemates :)

I'm a little confused ....I thought which ever house wins the battle will in turn be the only housemates who can nominate...but I thought those nominations could only be against the opposition...

So if others win the battle they are immune from noms and have to nom housemates from main house.

[Nicky91]

Do you dislike all of the Housemates like I do? I'm literally just watching this series out of loyalty.

i find this series good :)


and i sent you a visitor message, Mock :hee:

[hot2go]

Maybe if others win the battle they don't have to do any noms and the losers in main house have to nom each other....if anyone knows can they let me know....I'm not very clear about it

[Nicky91]

I'm a little confused ....I thought which ever house wins the battle will in turn be the only housemates who can nominate...but I thought those nominations could only be against the opposition...

So if others win the battle they are immune from noms and have to nom housemates from main house.

well the others are the ones who lost the battle, and the main housemates are immune from eviction, and also have the power to nominate who from the others will be up for eviction this week :)

[Mystic Mock]

If he owns it as part of his strategy and lets us in on it, for instance via the diary room, then great but he seems to be trying to fool the viewers with his claim of being bullied. That's not so great.

This reminds me of James Hill when he nominated Austin in CBB and instead of owning it in the Diary Room, he instead tried to be self-righteous and make out that Austin was wrong for reacting negatively towards James's nomination.

I liked Andy on Launch Night, but like Jackson his starting to give me vibes of Housemates that I couldn't stand.

[hot2go]

well the others are the ones who lost the battle, and the main housemates are immune from eviction, and also have the power to nominate who from the others will be up for eviction this week :)

Thanks for clearing that up....I didn't know the others lost the battle

[Cal.]

Andy should be evicted.

[Mystic Mock]

i find this series good :)


and i sent you a visitor message, Mock :hee:

Well it's nice that you're enjoying the series Nicky.

Don't get me wrong there's some big characters in this series, but they're just too one note and unlikable for me to have someone to root for.

And Jason's clearly playing the Housewives vote, whilst Alex is going for the teen girls/mid 20's vote so they're not even behaving like Human Beings to me.

And don't worry I'll read your message soon.

[hot2go]

Andy should be evicted.

He can't be tho....if main house are immune

[MrWong]

Do you dislike all of the Housemates like I do? I'm literally just watching this series out of loyalty.

Evelyn was my fave early doors :eek: turns out that she's just pretty wallpaper.

I am finding it hard to get hyped about most of the hm's. Much like last years ****fest.

Right now Lateysha's my fave.

[MrWong]

This reminds me of James Hill when he nominated Austin in CBB and instead of owning it in the Diary Room, he instead tried to be self-righteous and make out that Austin was wrong for reacting negatively towards James's nomination.

I liked Andy on Launch Night, but like Jackson his starting to give me vibes of Housemates that I couldn't stand.

Absolutely. That **** he pulled was so strategic. His self righteousness on top of being disingenuous was nauseating.