Westworld | Renewed for Season 3

[Jamie89]

I'm definitely rewatching season 1 before season 2 starts. This show is perfect for it :laugh:

Yeah it's pretty much made to be rewatched :laugh:

[RileyH]

New season 2 trailer debuts during the Super Bowl :clap1: They wrapped filming recently.

okay so when is that

[Lostie!]

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April 22nd!!

Maeve and the bulls! (what stunning visuals :love:) Dolores in modern dress! An unfinished host attacking!

There's also a slightly different version with a few different scenes released through the Discover Westworld site 48SGLDksy8E

Also, the Delos Incorporated site has been updated to possibly reveal a new character James Delos, founder of the Delos Corporation. Wonder if he's Logan's father http://www.delosincorporated.com

[Nicky91]

oooh i wonder who the actor then is of James Delos

[RileyH]

Yeah I need to rewatch s1 I didn't understand any of that

[y.winter]

Waiting for it :clap2:

[Jason.]

I'm ready :clap1:

[Lostie!]

oooh i wonder who the actor then is of James Delos

People on Reddit seem to think it's Peter Mullan and after googling him he looks likely. I'm glad we're getting more backstory into the history of park and of Delos itself,
we didn't learn much about the latter last season and we kept getting hints that Delos has ulterior motives for the Host technology

[Ross.]

Not this and Quantico back in the same week :clap1:

[Lostie!]

Not this and The 100 back in the same week :clap1:

A good week indeed!

[Ross.]

Why is Dolores taking all the attention away from Maeve in the trailer

Jealous cow!

[Jason.]

So what do we really think of Jersey?

(I don't think he'll read this thread)

[Lostie!]

Why is Dolores taking all the attention away from Maeve in the trailer

Jealous cow!

Maeve had plenty of spotlight with the bulls! Think of Talulah Riley with a split second appearance that most people won't even notice is her!

So what do we really think of Jersey?

(I don't think he'll read this thread)

:joker:

He'd definitely be a Sizemore apologist

[Ross.]

Omg is Sizemore back for this season

[Jamie89]

Omg is Sizemore back for this season

As long as it's to kill him off in the opening scene then I'm here for it!

[Lostie!]

As long as it's to kill him off in the opening scene then I'm here for it!

Come through, Dolores :clap1:

[RileyH]

Omg is Sizemore back for this season

We LOVE a legend

[RileyH]

So what do we really think of Jersey?

(I don't think he'll read this thread)

:joker::joker:

[Lostie!]

Sizemore was funny when he pissed over the control room. Other than that, utter trash!!

[RileyH]

Best male character

[RileyH]

Other than the hot long haired boy

[Lostie!]

Best male character

Other than the hot long haired boy

I really wish you never started watching :)

[Lostie!]

Dr Ford is one of the best fictional characters full stop

[RileyH]

I really wish you never started watching :)

You've said that before :)

[RileyH]

Dr Ford is one of the best fictional characters full stop

was that bernard

[Lostie!]

You've said that before :)

I know. And it's as true now as it was then :)

[Lostie!]

was that bernard

Just get the **** out

[RileyH]

Just get the **** out

excuse you cow

[RileyH]

so is Logan in s2 or did he ride away forever

[Jamie89]

We need a best character poll :spin:

[Jamie89]

Or we could all just agree it's this queen
http://78.media.tumblr.com/f2492b4d7f7296c47fafc677bf0ba47a/tumblr_p3p2mcnG5k1w330n0o7_r1_400.gif

[RileyH]

No it's Delores

[Lostie!]

so is Logan in s2 or did he ride away forever

Well he is in the trailer!!

We need a best character poll :spin:

Or we could all just agree it's this queen
http://78.media.tumblr.com/f2492b4d7f7296c47fafc677bf0ba47a/tumblr_p3p2mcnG5k1w330n0o7_r1_400.gif

Dr Ford > Dolores > Maeve tbh!

[RileyH]

Well he is in the trailer!!

WHEN I didn't see him once

[y.winter]

Or we could all just agree it's this queen
http://78.media.tumblr.com/f2492b4d7f7296c47fafc677bf0ba47a/tumblr_p3p2mcnG5k1w330n0o7_r1_400.gif
I hope they stick to Maeve and Clementine on S2 :worship:

No it's Delores

Dolores is a bore, sorry not sorry

[Jamie89]

I've just realised Dolores has Delos in her name :spin: (I'm probably like a year behind the rest of the internet)

I think I preferred Maeve because I found her path into consciousness more interesting, and her motivations in the end with going back into the park because of her daughter, it probably made her the most conscious in terms of complex emotions/decision making. Although I'm not going to pretend like I fully understand it all even after watching it twice :laugh: (And Ford is amazing but he isn't a robot... so)

[Lostie!]

I've just realised Dolores has Delos in her name :spin: (I'm probably like a year behind the rest of the internet)

I think I preferred Maeve because I found her path into consciousness more interesting, and her motivations in the end with going back into the park because of her daughter, it probably made her the most conscious in terms of complex emotions/decision making. Although I'm not going to pretend like I fully understand it all even after watching it twice :laugh: (And Ford is amazing but he isn't a robot... so)

Yeah I remember Delos / Dolores being brought up a lot on Reddit, especially when people spelt it as Delores :laugh:

I really wish Arnold had lost his wife rather than son and it turned out Dolores was based on her, that was a theory I loved during the first season. The new trailer briefly revived my hopes they might still do this with the shot of Bernard with Dolores in a modern dress, thinking that could have been Arnold and the original Dolores but then I remembered Ford saying Arnold viewed Dolores as a surrogate child which would be a strange way to think of the likeness of his wife :laugh:

[Jamie89]

Yeah I remember Delos / Dolores being brought up a lot on Reddit, especially when people spelt it as Delores :laugh:

I really wish Arnold had lost his wife rather than son and it turned out Dolores was based on her, that was a theory I loved during the first season. The new trailer briefly revived my hopes they might still do this with the shot of Bernard with Dolores in a modern dress, thinking that could have been Arnold and the original Dolores but then I remembered Ford saying Arnold viewed Dolores as a surrogate child which would be a strange way to think of the likeness of his wife :laugh:

Riley spelt it like that and I think that's what triggered the realisation :laugh:

Hmm, unless Ford was just wrong and was assuming that's how Arnold saw her, without Arnold actually ever saying that. I remember Ford saying it but I can't remember the context or anything.

[Lostie!]

Riley spelt it like that and I think that's what triggered the realisation :laugh:

Hmm, unless Ford was just wrong and was assuming that's how Arnold saw her, without Arnold actually ever saying that. I remember Ford saying it but I can't remember the context or anything.

Oh it's getting to that time once again and I LOVE IT

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Tin_foil_hat_2.jpg

[Jamie89]

Is that Charlotte in your sig, Lostie? She needs to be axed along with Sizemore :idc:

[RileyH]

Is that Charlotte in your sig, Lostie? She needs to be axed along with Sizemore :idc:

This is a bad opinion

[Jamie89]

This is a bad opinion

Axed before Sizemore then :hee:

[Jamie89]

I found her really irritating (and generally unbelievable as a character) do people like her?

[RileyH]

I just like the actress

[Lostie!]

I wasn't a big Charlotte fan either but I'd take a million of her over Sizemore :laugh:

[Ross.]

Charlotte and Sizemore are the power couple we deserve

[Ashley.]

So I have finally got around to watching the pilot episode, and I really liked it. It took me about half an hour to fully understand the concept of the show but I was intrigued nonetheless and once I'd got my head around it, I enjoyed it a lot and was genuinely fascinated. I definitely got Black Mirror/The Truman Show vibes at some points during the episode.

Based on this episode, I'd definitely rate it as "will probably end up in my signature at some point".

[Lostie!]

So I have finally got around to watching the pilot episode, and I really liked it. It took me about half an hour to fully understand the concept of the show but I was intrigued nonetheless and once I'd got my head around it, I enjoyed it a lot and was genuinely fascinated. I definitely got Black Mirror/The Truman Show vibes at some points during the episode.

Based on this episode, I'd definitely rate it as "will probably end up in my signature at some point".

:amazed: :clap1:

But do NOT read posts in here, you want to stay unspoiled for the full experience!

[Ashley.]

:amazed: :clap1:

But do NOT read posts in here, you want to stay unspoiled for the full experience!

Yeah I was thinking that. :laugh: I'll probably just post in here to give my thoughts on each episode and then furiously hit the back button before I can read any giveaways.

[Jason.]

Clementine the best character on television, yes?

[Ashley.]

Which one was he?

[Jason.]

Lostie get HER away from me!

*breathes heavily in paper bag*

[RileyH]

not he

[Lostie!]

:joker:

[Ashley.]

Oh I just looked her up. :laugh2: I don't know anybody's names other than Teddy and Dolores!

[RileyH]

I don't know anybody's names other than Teddy and Dolores!

icons

[Ashley.]

What kind of Den bloody Watts at Teddy though.

[Lostie!]

I remember being shooketh at him not being a guest

[Jamie89]

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@Ashley

[Jamie89]

I remember being shooketh at him not being a guest

That reminds me, when I watched the film they explained that guests can tell the difference between the robots and humans by looking at their hands (which btw is just silly, as if they can perfect facial features/anatomy etc but HANDS are somehow too advanced) but anyway I always wondered how guests could tell in the show, like when Teddy was back on the train after his reveal as a host and a couple of the female guests were talking about him as if they knew he was a host :think:

[Jason.]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SafeHardtofindAcornwoodpecker-size_restricted.gif

@Ashley

:joker:

[Ashley.]

That reminds me, when I watched the film they explained that guests can tell the difference between the robots and humans by looking at their hands (which btw is just silly, as if they can perfect facial features/anatomy etc but HANDS are somehow too advanced) but anyway I always wondered how guests could tell in the show, like when Teddy was back on the train after his reveal as a host and a couple of the female guests were talking about him as if they knew he was a host :think:

Yeah I did wonder about that. There was also that moment with the child asking Dolores if she was real. Heck, I don't even know who's real and who isn't.

[Jamie89]

Yeah I did wonder about that. There was also that moment with the child asking Dolores if she was real. Heck, I don't even know who's real and who isn't.

Oh yeah I'd forgotten about that, which might mean there isn't an obvious way of being able to tell. Maybe the train passengers were told about Teddy, or they'd just visited the park before and recognised him perhaps.

[Lostie!]

I think with Dolores and the little boy, they could tell because she was in character rather than seeming like a guest

[Ashley.]

Episode 2 was great. I'm really liking the way the series has been executed so far, it feels as though each scene offers a clearer explanation of the world so you're learning about it pretty much the entire way through. Quite liking how this episode switched focus from Dolores to Maeve as well, though there were still subtle nods to how her behaviour has changed since the last episode.

The repetition is a nice touch, too. It really highlights how one small change in the structure of each "storyline" can have such a prominent effect on the world, as we've seen so far with Dolores and Maeve.

[Lostie!]

The new set :clap1:

I really liked how the first episode was more an introduction into the world the Hosts inhabit / the backstage goings on and then the second gave us the insight into the process the guests go through rather than cramming it all into the first episode.

[Ross.]

Not a set change after 2 episodes

The impact this has on our Ashley is real?

[Lostie!]

I was having Westworld sets before it even premiered :skull:

[Ross.]

I was having Westworld sets before it even premiered :skull:

Well you would’ve looked silly if it turned out to be ****!

[Lostie!]

Well you would’ve looked silly if it turned out to be ****!

The advance reviews were raving about it so I knew that wasn't the case :smug:

But if I hate season 2 I'm deleting this thread and all trace of my intense stannage.

[Ashley.]

Not a set change after 2 episodes

The impact this has on our Ashley is real?

I've been in need of a new set since January and Westworld's aesthetics are too brilliant not to be put to use!

[RileyH]

I was having Westworld sets before it even premiered :skull:

Not everything is about you though is it

[Ross.]

Not everything is about you though is it

Scalp her!

[Ashley.]

Scalp her!

Draw a maze on her!

[Lostie!]

Not everything is about you though is it

In my thread it is :dance:

[Ashley.]

One question, are the hosts self-aware? Because in Episode 1, Dolores was talking about the newcomers/guests etc and obviously know that they can't be killed whereas they can (I assume)

[Ashley.]

Oh and also, is it just the same day playing out again and again on a loop, with the same storylines but each day something is altered?

[Jason.]

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar96274_106.gif

A look.

[Ashley.]

"How's that diet going?"

Me: http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar96274_106.gif

[Lostie!]

One question, are the hosts self-aware? Because in Episode 1, Dolores was talking about the newcomers/guests etc and obviously know that they can't be killed whereas they can (I assume)

No, the only Hosts who know what's going on are the ones who welcome new guests, and even those are just programmed rather than having true sentience.

The Hosts in the park have no idea that they're not humans living real lives, they think they're as real as the guests (who they don't know are just guests in a theme park). They might be programmed to have a concept of newcomers to their town but definitely not anything regarding the true nature of Westworld. And I think when Dolores mentioned how she loves the newcomers etc she was in one of those interrogation sessions that they don't have any real recollection of anyway.

Oh and also, is it just the same day playing out again and again on a loop, with the same storylines but each day something is altered?

Yeah, they all have a set storyline that can change course depending on how the guests interact with them. But they can be pulled from one storyline and later repurposed as a new character (like when they mentioned that Dolores' father used to play a professor who led a cult in the desert) so another Host used to be her father and obviously now a new one does since the current one was decommissioned.

[RileyH]

"How's that diet going?"

Me: http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar96274_106.gif

:joker:

[Ashley.]

No, the only Hosts who know what's going on are the ones who welcome new guests, and even those are just programmed rather than having true sentience.

The Hosts in the park have no idea that they're not humans living real lives, they think they're as real as the guests (who they don't know are just guests in a theme park). They might be programmed to have a concept of newcomers to their town but definitely not anything regarding the true nature of Westworld. And I think when Dolores mentioned how she loves the newcomers etc she was in one of those interrogation sessions that they don't have any real recollection of anyway.



Yeah, they all have a set storyline that can change course depending on how the guests interact with them. But they can be pulled from one storyline and later repurposed as a new character (like when they mentioned that Dolores' father used to play a professor who led a cult in the desert) so another Host used to be her father and obviously now a new one does since the current one was decommissioned.

Ah interesting. Thank you!

[Jamie89]

I love the set, Ashley :flutter:

[Ashley.]

Found time to watch the next couple of episodes, I'm really enjoying it. There's some parts of it that I'm not so interested in such as the Westworld "villain" that keeps popping up in every single scene. I just don't understand the point of him, yet... Though I am intrigued by the whole Maeve plot (I was tempted to call it a subplot but they're really delving into it now). Watching the season reminds me a lot of how I felt when I first started watching Orphan Black; I enjoyed it, but the mystery of it all and wanting to know what was going on was what made me want to carry on watching. I'm interested to see how this will all tie up.

One thing I will say is that it'll be nice to see the Dolores/Maeve storylines come together, which I assume will happen at some point. So far they've only shared one scene, though quite a significant one in that.

I love the set, Ashley :flutter:

Thank you. :love:

[Lostie!]

Found time to watch the next couple of episodes, I'm really enjoying it. There's some parts of it that I'm not so interested in such as the Westworld "villain" that keeps popping up in every single scene. I just don't understand the point of him, yet... Though I am intrigued by the whole Maeve plot (I was tempted to call it a subplot but they're really delving into it now). Watching the season reminds me a lot of how I felt when I first started watching Orphan Black; I enjoyed it, but the mystery of it all and wanting to know what was going on was what made me want to carry on watching. I'm interested to see how this will all tie up.

One thing I will say is that it'll be nice to see the Dolores/Maeve storylines come together, which I assume will happen at some point. So far they've only shared one scene, though quite a significant one in that.



Thank you. :love:

Have you noticed anything about the music played in Maeve's saloon yet?

[Ashley.]

Have you noticed anything about the music played in Maeve's saloon yet?

In general, or a specific song? There's been several. :laugh:

[Lostie!]

In general, or a specific song? There's been several. :laugh:

I just wondered if you'd picked up on that they play modern songs because I didn't notice until I read it online :laugh:

[Ashley.]

I just wondered if you'd picked up on that they play modern songs because I didn't notice until I read it online :laugh:

Oh right. :laugh: I noticed that, but I didn't really think anything of it. I thought you might have been referring to the fact that the piano plays on it's own. :joker:

[Marsh.]

Has anyone watched the movie that the show is based on?

[Lostie!]

Has anyone watched the movie that the show is based on?

Yeah I saw it years ago, that's one reason I was so intrigued when I heard they were remaking it for TV because I wondered how they planned on expanding the story.

They're very different beyond the same basic premise though.

[Marsh.]

Is the movie worth watching then?

[Lostie!]

Is the movie worth watching then?

I'd say so, after watching the show the movie feels inferior for me but it's enjoyable and tbf they're very different beasts. Takes a bit to get going but I didn't mind the build up.

Was definitely ahead of its time too.

[Ashley.]

Episode 5 was good, I quite like how they're switching between Dolores and Maeve with each episode. Like I said, hopefully they cross paths again at some point.

Is Anthony Hopkins supposed to be the protagonist or the antagonist? :think:

[Marsh.]

Is Anthony Hopkins supposed to be the protagonist or the antagonist? :think:

I love shows like this.

[Lostie!]

Is Anthony Hopkins supposed to be the protagonist or the antagonist? :think:

And this is why I keep saying Dr Robert Ford is one of my favourite characters of all time :smug:

[Ashley.]

Watched Episodes 6 & 7 this evening, and after that ending I'm enjoying it even more now, and I'm really excited to get into the last few episodes. I did already guess back in the beginning that the workers were hosts as well purely because we never see them outside of the park (and you can't "leave" the park), but it was still an extremely effective scene nonetheless.

Clem's deactivation. :sad: She was quite a low-key character but I suppose the purpose of her was to showcase how one-dimensional the hosts really are. That scene between Maeve and Clem where Maeve notices how controlled everything is in the park was really good, too.

I'm hoping to finish this tonight as I won't have much time to do so over the weekend.

[Lostie!]

I did already guess back in the beginning that the workers were hosts as well purely because we never see them outside of the park (and you can't "leave" the park), but it was still an extremely effective scene nonetheless.

Just to clarify, did you take the Bernard reveal to mean that all the behind the scenes employees are Hosts? :laugh:

Btw I'm glad you've seen that episode now because I wouldn't have wanted to revive my Ford "blood sacrifice" sig until you had.

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Can't wait for your thoughts on the final few episodes!

[Ashley.]

Finally finished the series. I must say I was half expecting the plot to come full circle and everything go back to how it was. I have mixed thoughts on the rebellion... One thing I did like about it was Maeve believing she had control over herself, but in actual fact the whole thing was staged by Ford. Her breaking the system to go back and find her daughter was a nice touch, also. But the rest of it just wasn't that gripping for me, and for once I was more interested in Dolores' storyline. The Wyatt reveal was a brilliant twist.

All in all I did find it enjoyable, but like I've said before it was purely my own curiosity that kept me watching. I might rewatch the last episode at some point before the new season begins just to see if there was anything I missed, because I do feel like there's a fair bit I still need to piece together, mainly the Billy/Dolores stuff. I'm definitely glad that there is going to be a second season though.

Just to clarify, did you take the Bernard reveal to mean that all the behind the scenes employees are Hosts? :laugh:

Btw I'm glad you've seen that episode now because I wouldn't have wanted to revive my Ford "blood sacrifice" sig until you had.

http://78.media.tumblr.com/590a5338a4ca6ce7ac36a6378ed917d0/tumblr_oek4mwjmwI1ur0wybo1_400.gif

Can't wait for your thoughts on the final few episodes!

Yeah now that I've finished it, I'm guessing Bernard was the only "host" employee (so yet another one of my incorrect theories...)

And I've already seen that signature before, so I saw it coming. But thank you x

[Lostie!]

I loved the Wyatt reveal :clap1: Honestly never crossed my mind until I read it in a fan theory I think the week before the finale.

Actually, that goes for most of the big twists. Most were theorised online (though to be fair so were plenty of wrong ones :laugh:) but if I wasn't rabidly following the reddit all season I wouldn't have picked up on them alone (maybe Bernard being a Host). And the final reveal of Ford being on the side of the Hosts I don't think was theorised at all. But yeah I love that there were enough clues there for people to pick up on (as all good mysteries should have) without being glaringly obvious.

I have to say I loved how deceptive they were with the editing. I was a big supporter of the William = Man in Black theory so when Dolores ran from home after having a memory of the Man in Black in the barn, followed by the scene of her running into William and Logan I was convinced the theory was wrong and then decided maybe Arnold was the Man in Black :laugh:

[Ashley.]

I loved the Wyatt reveal :clap1: Honestly never crossed my mind until I read it in a fan theory I think the week before the finale.

Actually, that goes for most of the big twists. Most were theorised online (though to be fair so were plenty of wrong ones :laugh:) but if I wasn't rabidly following the reddit all season I wouldn't have picked up on them alone (maybe Bernard being a Host). And the final reveal of Ford being on the side of the Hosts I don't think was theorised at all. But yeah I love that there were enough clues there for people to pick up on (as all good mysteries should have) without being glaringly obvious.

I have to say I loved how deceptive they were with the editing. I was a big supporter of the William = Man in Black theory so when Dolores ran from home after having a memory of the Man in Black in the barn, followed by the scene of her running into William and Logan I was convinced the theory was wrong and then decided maybe Arnold was the Man in Black :laugh:

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[Lostie!]

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Excuse me that was another popular theory and makes a hell of a lot more sense than bloody William being Arnold (yes everyone, she really thought that. JUDGE HER)

[Ashley.]

Excuse me that was another popular theory and makes a hell of a lot more sense than bloody William being Arnold (yes everyone, she really thought that. JUDGE HER)

They're both the same person!

[Lostie!]

They're both the same person!

Yes but your theory was that William was Arnold while you still thought his story was happening in the present day which would mean a man as young as him co founded Westworld enough years ago for Ford to be significantly younger and still not be an old man himself! How THAT works is beyond me, madam!

[Jamie89]

Wait what? Arnold and William are the same person? I'm so confused! :laugh: I thought Arnold is Bernard (kind of) and William is the man in black... (my head hurts).

[Jamie89]

Just when I thought I had it all figured out :fist:

[Lostie!]

Wait what? Arnold and William are the same person? I'm so confused! :laugh: I thought Arnold is Bernard (kind of) and William is the man in black... (my head hurts).

No :joker: Ashley thought William was Arnold before the Bernard reveal.

[Ashley.]

Yes but your theory was that William was Arnold while you still thought his story was happening in the present day which would mean a man as young as him co founded Westworld enough years ago for Ford to be significantly younger and still not be an old man himself! How THAT works is beyond me, madam!

Yes, but Arnold died. If he was going to come back he'd come back the same age. Which he did. :hee:

[Jamie89]

No :joker: Ashley thought William was Arnold before the Bernard reveal.

Ooooh wait I get it now, I thought when Ashley said 'they're the same person' she was talking about William and Arnold because of the post before it (rather than William and the man in black) and then you agreed they were the same person! And I was like :omgno: :worry: but I just re-read :laugh:

[Lostie!]

Entertainment Weekly have exclusive pictures / details from season 2 (I'll put the links under tags so people who want to go into it as blind as possible don't accidentally click)

http://ew.com/tv/2018/03/01/ew-cover-westworld-season-2/
http://ew.com/tv/westworld-season-2-photos/amp/
http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/28/westworld-season-2-characters/
http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/28/westworld-season-2-drone-host/

Very intrigued about the Drone Hosts, and I'm really glad they're delving into the hidden agenda of Delos that was hinted at last season.

Of all the pictures, this one definitely caught my attention the most :shocked:

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/328943693498723.jpg?w=669

She's wearing the dress the female greeter Hosts wear! Also someone on Reddit pointed out that the greeters wear black in the present day (which I can't believe an obsessive like me didn't pick up on) so this must be a flashback (and the current greeter uniform being black possibly accounts for the nearly identical black dress she's wearing at one point in the trailer for whatever reason). It's so strange seeing her in modern dress :laugh:

More Ford flashbacks coming :clap1: (I'll take younger non Anthony Hopkins Ford over no Ford any day)

Confirmation that Elsie is alive :clap1: (even though I already pretty much knew :laugh:)

Can't believe that mammoth break is nearly over! Jonathan Nolan said that the Super Bowl trailer was more of a teaser and that the proper trailer is still to come so we should have that to look forward to in coming weeks too!

[Lostie!]

Scans from the full EW article have been posted online http://nerd-utopia.tumblr.com/post/171491897247

Everything I hear about season 2 just gets me more and more excited :clap1:

[Ashley.]

Stubbs. :clap1:

[Jason.]

The park's arrogant head writer becomes Maeve's hostage and will get a taste of what it's like to be owned.


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[Marsh.]

This was renewed?

[Lostie!]

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:laugh2:

This was renewed?

Yes about 100000 years ago, keep up

[Marsh.]

Yes about 100000 years ago, keep up

I'm a cheeky boy. :p

[Lostie!]

Some nuggets of info from the South by Southwest festival

The first clip shown was a scene of Dolores (Evan Rachel Wood) and Teddy (James Marsden) holding three people prisoner. Two of the humans (it seems, anyway) stand on top of tombstones with nooses around their necks, while a middle-aged man is prepared for the same fate. Dolores address the latter figure, saying, “You’re in my dream,” before asking if any of them had ever questioned their reality; if they ever asked themselves “the price you’d have to pay if there’s a reckoning.”

As she put the noose around his neck, she says “That reckoning is here.”

Dolores then starts talking about her own identity; her own consciousness. “I have several minds about it,” she says. One is of the “rancher’s daughter” who wants to see the beauty in the people she’s about to kill. But then another part of her only sees the “ugliness and disarray.”

“But those are just the roles you forced me to play,” she says. “I have one last role to play: myself.”

The scene ended and a brief teaser began. Dead bodies populated so many spaces within the park and outside of it: Bernard (Jeffrey Wright) is seen waking up in the dirt where the party that ended Season 1 was held. More unmoving bodies were seen by a pool outside the park. Armed men in uniform (plus Tessa Thompson) were shown entering the park, guns drawn, and William (Jimmi Simpson) was seen in a clean black suit walking toward Dolores.

But the best was saved for last: a sneak peek at Shogun World. Led by new cast member Hiroyuki Sanada (“The Wolverine,” “The Last Samurai”), two samurai armies started fighting each other, and as the camera slid away from the battle, it showed Maeve walking into it — wearing a kimono and looking calm as ever.

This all sounds epic :clap1:

And a few brief new scenes at the end of the new HBO Coming Soon trailer

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[Natalie.]

The spoiler bit sounds amazing :clap1:

[Lostie!]

The spoiler bit sounds amazing :clap1:

Dolores hanging people and Maeve striding through a battlefield in a kimono are things I need in my life right now. I hope they meet again this season, its strange to think they've only had one scene together so far.

Some more exclusive season 2 pictures released http://ew.com/tv/2018/03/16/westworld-season-2-photos-new/

It's good to finally get a proper look at some of the new characters. The full trailer can't be too far off now.

[Lostie!]

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:flutter:

[Jason.]

Bye I got excited thinking that was the trailer

[Ashley.]

Really excited for the new season, I hope it delivers.

[Lostie!]

So in true Westworld fashion there's code hidden in the poster that takes people to this

https://discoverwestworld.com/findthedoor/

I love all the cryptic promo they do via the Discover Westworld and Delos Inc sites.

Btw to put that a bit into context, "The Door" is the official subtitle of season 2 ("The Maze" was the subtitle for season 1)

[iRyan]

I just finished S1 this week! Loved it. It's my favorite series I've watched since Lost, without a doubt. At times it was very confusing with all the different timelines and narratives shuffled and out of order and sometimes randomly sliced in, but the puzzle solving approach is certainly more interesting to watch unfold than something straightforward. While some aspects of the narrative were predictable, I was stilled glued to the TV and intrigued the entire time. I love the amount of symbolism about consciousness, human nature, and spirituality that it incorporates much like Lost.

[Lostie!]

I just finished S1 this week! Loved it. It's my favorite series I've watched since Lost, without a doubt. At times it was very confusing with all the different timelines and narratives shuffled and out of order and sometimes randomly sliced in, but the puzzle solving approach is certainly more interesting to watch unfold than something straightforward. While some aspects of the narrative were predictable, I was stilled glued to the TV and intrigued the entire time. I love the amount of symbolism about consciousness, human nature, and spirituality that it incorporates much like Lost.

:clap1:

You chose a good time to get caught up with just a month to go until season 2. Although the huge break from December 2016 has actually gone by really quickly.

I'll be rewatching the first season before the second starts (hopefully!)

I was a huge Lost fan too (hence the username) and this was the first show to really fill that same spot for me, but I think Westworld has a better approach to the mysteries with having them more planned in advance and providing big answers faster (well, based on season 1 at least).

[Marsh.]

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:flutter:

I'm the hat.

[Lostie!]

New teaser with an announcement for the full trailer coming today!

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Apparently they disrupted the programming of all HBO and Cinemax channels at the same time to air this :laugh: Westworld has some of the best marketing I've ever seen

[Lostie!]

IT'S HERE!!!

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Ridiculously hyped :worship:

[Jason.]

Can't wait :clap1:

Might rewatch S1 in the run up to the second season

[Jason.]

"Revenge? That's just a different prayer at their altar, darling."

:love:

[Niamh.]

Heart Shaped Box as the background music :worship:

[RileyH]

it looks good

[Lostie!]

Can't wait :clap1:

Might rewatch S1 in the run up to the second season

Yeah I'm gonna start my rewatch soon. Maybe tonight actually.

And I'll be rewatching this trailer millions of times too :laugh: I'm already catching intriguing quick little shots I missed the first time

Heart Shaped Box as the background music :worship:

I think Ramin Djawadi can cover any song and make it fit the show, he did Runaway by Kanye West for the Super Bowl trailer :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Yeah I'm gonna start my rewatch soon. Maybe tonight actually.

And I'll be rewatching this trailer millions of times too :laugh: I'm already catching intriguing quick little shots I missed the first time



I think Ramin Djawadi can cover any song and make it fit the show, he did Runaway by Kanye West for the Super Bowl trailer :laugh:

It sounded great :love:

[Jason.]

Heart Shaped Box as the background music :worship:

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A bop!

[Natalie.]

Wow that trailer :clap1:
I can't wait!

[Headie]

Yasss can't wait :clap1:

Although I feel like I've forgot loads of stuff from Season 1 </3

[Lostie!]

So as with the code in the poster, according to the brainboxes on Reddit there was also some hidden code in the new trailer that leads to this cool / creepy video on the Delos website (with a few brief new shots)

http://www.delosincorporated.com/freedom/

Like I said before, I ****ing love the marketing for this show :laugh:

[Lostie!]

Started my rewatch last night, the pilot is still just as brilliant :clap1: And I never realised we actually got our first mention of Arnold in the first episode (when Walter's glitching out), probably because we didn't know to take notice of it at the time :laugh:

[Bayliss]

So as with the code in the poster, according to the brainboxes on Reddit there was also some promising testosterone boosters results (https://www.muscleandfitness.com/supplements/best-testosterone-boosters/) and hidden code in the new trailer that leads to this cool / creepy video on the Delos website (with a few brief new shots)

http://www.delosincorporated.com/freedom/

Like I said before, I ****ing love the marketing for this show :laugh:

That's some next level stuff. Creative marketing at it's best. We'd have more of stuff like that if marketing people were allowed to be creative.

[Ashley.]

I'm going to rewatch the pilot and the finale probably tonight or tomorrow night (I don't have time to go through the entire season again), the pilot just because it was by far the best episode, and the finale to prepare myself for the second season.

I'm really hoping the second season is just as good as the first, the trailers that they've released haven't really grabbed me as much as I'd hoped but I'm still going to watch it and perhaps it'll deliver.

[Ross.]

That trailer is excellent

[RileyH]

That's some next level stuff. Creative marketing at it's best. We'd have more of stuff like that if marketing people were allowed to be creative.

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[Lostie!]

Interview about Shogun World http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/09/westworld-shogun-world-interview/

Basically, we have a whole episode in Japanese

:flutter:

[Lostie!]

Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy are doing an AMA on Reddit right now and Jeffrey Wright's shown up too :joker:

EDIT: So they used the AMA to troll the spoiler hounds by promising a spoiler video if they get 1000 upvotes (which they did) and then delivering this. And it's glorious.

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(it seems real at first so there are actually new scenes up until around 1:35 but nothing I'd call a spoiler)

[Jason.]

Interview about Shogun World http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/09/westworld-shogun-world-interview/

Basically, we have a whole episode in Japanese

:flutter:

LukeB's eyes lit up?

[Lostie!]

A couple of new teasers!

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I love it all and I want it all now.

Also, a Talking Dead / Thronecast style companion show for Sky Atlantic has been announced called West:Word (awkward title aside I'll be looking forward to this too!)

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[Ross.]

West:Word is a terrible title :skull:

[Ross.]

Thronecast remains unshaken

[Lostie!]

I never got whatever wordplay they were going for with Thronecast. Talking Dead has the best title.

Anyway go and watch that primer video and the new promos instead of focusing on unimportant stuff!

[Ross.]

It started as a podcast thing I think?

[Ross.]

And I’ll do that when I’m ready!

[Lostie!]

Just saw this article that nicely compiles the new characters in season 2

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a19748328/westworld-season-2-cast/

I notice that Grace and Nicholas haven't appeared in any of the promotional footage or pictures yet so far despite being series regulars, so much so that I forgot about them :laugh:

[Lostie!]

Reviews (spoiler free thankfully) are out for the first 5 episodes that were sent to the press and what I've read has been predominantly positive so far :clap1:

[Jamie89]

Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy are doing an AMA on Reddit right now and Jeffrey Wright's shown up too :joker:

EDIT: So they used the AMA to troll the spoiler hounds by promising a spoiler video if they get 1000 upvotes (which they did) and then delivering this. And it's glorious.

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(it seems real at first so there are actually new scenes up until around 1:35 but nothing I'd call a spoiler)

:laugh2:

Here for the dog taking over the role of Sizemore!

[Strictly Jake]

Can't wait for this!!

[Lostie!]

This is horrifying :laugh2: :worry:

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:laugh2:

Here for the dog taking over the role of Sizemore!

:joker:

[Lostie!]

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Brilliant :joker: :clap1:

[Lostie!]

Couple of really cool new teasers! (that probably only I on here will care about but still!)

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I don't know what we're meant to be finding in the first one so I'll just wait for Reddit to work it out as usual :pipe2:

[Ashley.]

Couple of really cool new teasers! (that probably only I on here will care about but still!)

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I don't know what we're meant to be finding in the first one so I'll just wait for Reddit to work it out as usual :pipe2:

(Immediately saves them to make more sig GIFs)

[Lostie!]

(Immediately saves them to make more sig GIFs)

I knew which part you'd be sigging right away :laugh:

[Ashley.]

I knew which part you'd be sigging right away :laugh:

Which part, Psychic Sally?

(I've just realised you can't save Twitter videos and they haven't been uploaded to YouTube. Poor my sig.)

[Lostie!]

Which part, Psychic Sally?

(I've just realised you can't save Twitter videos and they haven't been uploaded to YouTube. Poor my sig.)

You can download them! http://twittervideodownloader.com

And the part with Dolores and Teddy on horses overlooking the cliff because you told me a while back you wanted a version of that without the Westworld title over it :smug:

[Ashley.]

You can download them! http://twittervideodownloader.com

And the part with Dolores and Teddy on horses overlooking the cliff because you told me a while back you wanted a version of that without the Westworld title over it :smug:

Ah, clever. :smug: And thank you!

[Ross.]

When and where can I get my fix of Maeve?

[Ashley.]

When and where can I get my fix of Maeve?

http://123stream.io/live/36674
At 2am!

[Ashley.]

Great opening episode. Much prefer Maeve to Dolores/Teddy (despite my signature) so I'm glad they put a spotlight on her, I thought her and Sizemore were both hilarious.

"It won't make much of a meal." https://78.media.tumblr.com/df14d5ba8f119025b5cecf0631b7f694/tumblr_inline_p7m886Lrk31u2doy8_540.gif

I'm intrigued to learn more about Bernard's situation, obviously nobody knows he's a host yet so that will be interesting. I assume all the stuff with Present Bernard will eventually lead up to what we've seen so far with Future Bernard so there's that to look forward to as well.

[Tom4784]

I thought it was okay, too much time has passed for me to care about it as much as I did when the first season aired. Serialised shows like this should never take a year off.

Maeve is, once again, the MVP but I have to admit that I don't really care about the other plotlines. William's feels like it's gonna be a repeat of the maze business from the first season, Dolores has become boring and I just don't care for Bernard.

[Lostie!]

Thought it was a great premiere :clap1:

Dolores seems to be going full villain what with her killing Hosts along with humans. Wonder how she decides who "deserves" to be free. The contrast between her now and in the flashbacks with Arnold at the start is another testament to how brilliant an actress Evan Rachel Wood is. I've been looking forward to seeing more of Angela too (Talulah Riley's character) so I enjoyed her appearances, I'm liking her as Dolores' psychotic top lieutenant. I was wondering why she told that one Delos guy to run, but based on her later telling Dolores they'd found something maybe they used him to lead them somewhere.

I like having a combination of scenes in the immediate aftermath of last season and scenes a couple of weeks later, it's a storytelling format I've always enjoyed so I look forward to seeing how we get to that final scene with the ocean that's come out of nowhere and dead Hosts (poor Teddy again! :laugh:)

Old William's story risks being uninteresting if it's pretty much a rehash of his quest for the Maze but I'll reserve judgement until I see more of it. The scene with the young Ford Host was great though, I could definitely hear Anthony Hopkins when his voice was glitching.

The storyline I'm most interested in atm is finding out more about Delos and their secret plans, I've been intrigued about that since last season when they alluded to it a few times. I love the Drone Hosts too, creepy as hell.

Glad that Maeve's as snarky as ever, and I actually found Sizemore enjoyable :shocked: They have an enjoyable dynamic.

[Lostie!]

Also it was fun seeing Floki from Vikings being so... un-Floki like as that new Delos suit, Karl.
He's a lot taller than I thought he was :joker:

https://i.imgur.com/jm0L36N.jpg

[arista]

I thought it was okay, too much time has passed for me to care about it as much as I did when the first season aired. Serialised shows like this should never take a year off.

Maeve is, once again, the MVP but I have to admit that I don't really care about the other plotlines. William's feels like it's gonna be a repeat of the maze business from the first season, Dolores has become boring and I just don't care for Bernard.

Yes he must break away
get Tougher
he must stop over thinking it all.

[Lostie!]

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:joker:

[Natalie.]

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:joker:

:joker::joker:
It took me halfway through to realise it was Floki
A great premiere :clap1:

[Ross.]

Glad that Maeve's as snarky as ever, and I actually found Sizemore enjoyable :shocked: They have an enjoyable dynamic.

Yassssss :clap1:

It took Sizemore to go naked for you to like him?

[Niamh.]

:joker::joker:
It took me halfway through to realise it was Floki
A great premiere :clap1:

It was Gav who noticed, I don't think I would have spotted it at all, I wish he hadn't though because after he said it I kept repeating everything he said in my head in Flokis voice :worry:

Really good opening episode I thought :love: Bad ass Dolores is so much better. Maeve :worship:

[Nicky91]

i quite enjoyed the first ep of season 2, Maeve & Hector :love:


but also William (Ed Harris) going for another adventure again


something tells me that dolores and william might re-unite, he is one of the few humans who understands them as real individuals

[Ashley.]

Dolores and Maeve in that scene

https://i.imgur.com/WnaEQF7.gif

[Ashley.]

William's storyline is as excrutiatingly boring as it was last season, I see. I'm sort of counting on the next episode being Maeve-centric as I'm not finding Dolores' new "story" all that gripping to be honest. :laugh:

[arista]

Episode 2
Much better

[Headie]

William's storyline is as excrutiatingly boring as it was last season, I see. I'm sort of counting on the next episode being Maeve-centric as I'm not finding Dolores' new "story" all that gripping to be honest. :laugh:

Yeah I'm so uninterested in William/Man In Black. His story last season was pointless and predictable, and this year it feels even more pointless. I really couldn't care less about him.

[RileyH]

I haven't even started s2 but yass @ everyone hating William :clap1:

[Headie]

Also ItsJustNotRealistic.gif @ some wrinkly old man who spends his whole life playing Indians and Cowboys being able to defeat all these technologically advanced weapon-holding hosts in all these big melee attacks and shootouts etc.

[Headie]

Also lol @ Claire from ANTM10 actually getting a role as Will's wife in this after having her stock photo used last season :joker:

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/953077/Westworld-season-2-episode-2-William-wife-Juliet-Claire-Unabia-model-actress

[Lostie!]

Loved episode 2 :clap1: The present day stuff was sort of spinning its wheels a bit (though seeing Dolores and Maeve finally interact again however briefly was great) but the flashbacks were brilliant. I'm into all the backstory so I loved getting so much this episode. It was also great getting scenes in the outside world for the first time. Pretty surreal seeing Dolores in a modern dress walking around a real world city :laugh:

Yet another Anthony Hopkins voice cameo. Keep em coming :clap1: They kept Giancarlo Esposito's casting quiet!

I didn't realise Juliet's actress was the model from the picture until someone pointed it out on Reddit. I always assumed she'd be played by someone else if we ever saw her properly since it was just a stock image from the Internet so I love that they did that. I also didn't notice Lawrence's daughter was at the retirement party until Reddit once again pointed it out. :laugh:

Did anyone else spot Armistice as the sheriff in the scene where James Delos visited the park with William? So many little blink and you'll miss it moments in this show :joker:

Dolores and Maeve in that scene

https://i.imgur.com/WnaEQF7.gif

:joker::joker:

[Lostie!]

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Yeessssss

[Ashley.]

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Yeessssss

Good news. The great thing about a concept like this is that there's so much to explore, especially now we know that there are at least five other parks. It'll be interesting to see how this season is wrapped up and what direction the show will be heading in going into the third season.

[Headie]

http://www.thisisinsider.com/westworld-timeline-spoilers-2018-4

This timeline is useful for following/understanding all the events that have been shown so far in chronological order. It's updated every week.

[Tom4784]

The second episode was great.

[Marsh.]

My god, they'll renew anything these days. :smug:

[Ashley.]

My god, they'll renew anything these days. :smug:

You think you're scared of Westworld being renewed? They'll do it a million times!

[Marsh.]

You think you're scared of Westworld being renewed? They'll do it a million times!

:joker:

[Natalie.]

You think you're scared of Westworld being renewed? They'll do it a million times!

:joker:

[Nicky91]

last night i saw episode 2, i quite liked it bits of the flashback scenes, a weapon which Dolores plans to use against the humans hmm, and also reunion between William and Lawrence :flutter:

[Lostie!]

Thought episode 3 was another great one :clap1:

The scene between Dolores and Peter was glorious. I love that her old self is still in there and she's not been completely taken over by Wyatt. Although, her continued love for Peter and Teddy does contradict her vow to defy the roles her makers forced her to play, but I think that's very much intentional.

I love that Shogun World was heavily promoted and then the first new world we see is a whole other one :laugh: Apparently it's called The Raj. There were posts about a possible "Rajworld" on Reddit a while back when someone cracked some code on one of the Delos sites but I didn't give it much thought, but they were right :joker:

Very intrigued by Katja Herbers' character. It's been pointed out that a symbol in her journal was also in the Delos facility, I completely missed that. Even though she's reportedly called Grace, I love the idea that she might actually be William's daughter Emily. Whoever she is, she's important.

Very happy with the returns of Armistice, Felix, Sylvester and Clementine :clap1: Hector's "She has a dragon" reaction to Armistice's flamethrower was brilliant :joker: Her new arm is cool as ****.

Clementine is extremely creepy now and I'm loving it.

The battle is getting some flack because of the apparent ineptitude of the park security but battle scenes are always the least interesting part of anything for me so most of it went over my head :laugh:

The final scene with the samurai :worship:

[Ashley.]

Loved Episode 3, much more than I have the past two episodes. That was probably my favourite opening scene to date - very intriguing and it's interesting to see other worlds too. It felt like I was reliving the first episode all over again with the mystery, who's real and who's not etc. Also that Arabic version of Seven Nation Army was delightful.

One thing I am enjoying about this season is that it's less about the characters and more about the actual park itself. Of course, you have several storylines going on with Dolores and Maeve etc, but the show doesn't necessarily need to rely on them to be enjoyable. I'm finding that learning about the creation of the park, how things have changed and exploring other worlds is just as enjoyable than following Dolores and Maeve (probably more enjoyable than the Dolores stuff, to be honest.)

But I agree with Lostie - that scene between Dolores and Peter was emotional to say the least. I think what was heartbreaking about it was Dolores realising that her "father" was literally just code. He was never emotionally invested in her and was essentially just reading off a script, like when he started talking about the ranch.

[Ashley.]

Caught up on Episode 4. Hm, it's interesting as I understood the importance of it and it dealt with a few of the series' strong themes, but for me it just fell a bit flat. I just found the episode incredibly predictable.

Elsie finally returning was great, though

[Lostie!]

Even though she's reportedly called Grace, I love the idea that she might actually be William's daughter Emily. Whoever she is, she's important.

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Probably my favourite yet :clap1: (outside of the MiB stuff which is still pretty boring imo). My jaw genuinely dropped when I started to realise James Delos was a Host with his mind uploaded, thought they staged the reveal perfectly. Peter Mullan was so good :clap1:

And even though I'd figured Delos' plans involved people trying to live forever as Hosts (the hints were pretty strong in episode 2 so I'd say we were supposed to), the knowledge that there's been an unstable James Delos Host underneath the park all this time is chilling. The Drone Hosts are still cool as hell.

Elsie :clap2: I do think she came around to Bernard being a Host quite quickly but I guess there wasn't time to have her mull over it for long.

I was really confused about the flashbacks of the massacre because I assumed it was the same facility Bernard and Charlotte found in the first episode which clearly hasn't had that happen but now it's obvious it was another facility :laugh: As for the other Host with human consciousness being made, I'm gonna go with Ford. :think:

Speaking of, I really love how much of a presence he still has despite being dead with the Hosts passing on his messages from beyond the grave. I'm wondering if these instances are messages he pre programmed before dying or if his consciousness is actually still alive in some of the Hosts.

I noticed the couple from the first episode of season 1 being held captive by the Ghost Nation, that was a fun touch.

As I said, the stuff with older William isn't interesting me yet. I know his storyline in this episode was an intentional throwback to when he was in Lawrence's town last season (Lawrence's wife being made to dance for example) but everything with his side of things just constantly feels too familiar. That said, the confirmation of his daughter being in the park significantly raises my interest.

Something I'm disappointed me was the apparent confirmation that Logan's dead because I've been hoping to see his older self show up and it seems like a missed opportunity honestly. Of course, all we have is William's word right now.

Next week looks phenomenal.

[Nicky91]

Katja Herbers yes she's a talented dutch actress :love: i hope being on this series could be her international breakthrough for more movies like Michiel Huisman now does after appearing on game of thrones

[Ashley.]

Yeah, James still being in the facility years later really creeped me out. I figured out he was a host, (fairly predictable) but the actual concept of him slowly going out of his mind and being unable to remember why was chilling.

[Lostie!]

I didn't see his Host reveal coming from the first scene but when we saw him repeating the very same routine later on the penny dropped :laugh:

People have pointed out the similarities with the opening scene of Lost season 2 (a Scottish man waking up in an underground bunker and going about his routine including riding an exercise bike whilst a 60s record plays) and I'm ashamed that I, Lostie, didn't pick up on that :worry: (although Lisa Joy says it was entirely coincidental anyway :laugh:)

[Nicky91]

i saw episode 4 wednesday evening, i quite liked the episode


the scenes with James in the facility were a bit creepy, and the return of Elsie :flutter:


ending also quite good with William and his daughter


i am liking this season so far :hee:

[Lostie!]

Okay I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this :joker:

https://i.imgur.com/VCnRCuq.jpg

[Ashley.]

Oh my god. :joker:

[Natalie.]

:joker::joker:

[Lostie!]

Loved Shogun World :clap1: Felt like a bit of a filler episode it was bloody enjoyable. I loved all the parallels to Westworld characters and storylines and Akane is brilliant, really hope she sticks around. Bit disappointed that Sakura didn't make Maeve reminisce about Clementine though, I get that she's focused on her 'daughter' right now but it would have been a nice poignant moment since Sakura was clearly a parallel of Clem as well as her daughter.

Speaking of, the scene with the two Clementines was so haunting. Actually probably my favourite part of the episode even though it was brief.

[Lostie!]

The opening and closing scenes of episode 6 :worship: :worship:

The Dolores / Bernard fidelity test seems to be happening inside The Cradle since it shares the aspect ratio with the Cradle scenes. I've no idea of what might be going on with that yet :joker: I wish the trailer for the episode didn't give away the sudden turn halfway through the scene but it was still a really great scene (and further highlighted how great Evan is).

Ford :worship: That answers my question earlier in the season about whether his consciousness was still alive in cyberspace. I'm so excited to have Anthony Hopkins back properly, even if it's only briefly.

Dolores being unnerved by Teddy now being a violent sociopath when she made him that way. Girl.

I hope Angela gets more to do. She's by far one of the most intriguing characters for me but since the uprising she's just been a henchwoman for Dolores. Hopefully she's involved significantly in the endgame of the season. Speaking of, I read in an interview that the thing she's wearing round her head is a crown made of bones which nicely ties back to Teddy saying Wyatt's cult wear the bones of their enemies last season.

(I know I'm pretty much talking to myself at this point because this forum only really appreciates CRAP but I'm dead set on keeping the thread alive dammit)

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Just watched Episode 7 and its getting intense and very interesting how it all is playing out. I'm finding this season much better compared to season 1.

[Lostie!]

I loved the episode but I'm disappointed if Angela and Peter Abernathy are gone for good (like with Logan, missed opportunities for characters who I thought had more story to tell). I was really excited about both being upgraded to series regulars and I don't think either has been utilised as much as they could have been, particularly for Hosts as interesting as those two (they did both serve really important functions with her destroying the Cradle and the code in his head but still, I'm annoyed if they're gone :laugh:)

I also had an issue with that security guy being stupid enough to let Angela seduce him, but they had established earlier in the episode that he was a reckless arrogant dick so there's that. And her speech before pulling the pin was everything.

I love that Ford is quite literally the ghost in the machine now. I never thought I'd see him wielding a machine gun and my life is now complete.

I really liked the scenes between characters who don't often share screen time too (Maeve, William, Lawrence / Dolores, Charlotte / Dolores, Maeve). Really felt like all the separate storylines are converging now going into the final stretch.

Appreciated the Theresa callbacks too (I still miss her). Nice touch to flashback to her death in episode 7, it was episode 7 of the first season when she died. And both episodes are named after art styles. Certain neither are coincidences.

[Lostie!]

I have to say though, Maeve and Lawrence both had plenty of opportunity to kill William just by shooting him in the head rather than body. I get that the plot demands he doesn't die yet but it's pretty glaring when people have a sure fire chance to kill someone and don't.

I really enjoyed the part with Maeve turning William's allies on him though. I guess it didn't work on Lawrence because he's finally gaining sentience.

[Headie]

Watching the latest ep now, YASSS @ Maeve shooting up William :clap1: The day he's actually killed off I'll celebrate

[Headie]

Oh @ her getting shot by Sizemore's goons

All I know is, when Maeve's out, I'm out!

[y.winter]

I gave up after S2E3, I just couldn't keep up with whatever that is going there :worry:

[BBUKAUSFAN]

When you watch, do you think in your mind that the actors are robots or do u see them as humans? It really does play on your mind, when I watch in my mind they are only machines and nothing more not humans at all its kinda trippy thinking about it.

[Ashley.]

Episode 8 was brilliantly written. I genuinely believed that the tribe were trying to save Maeve's daughter, but the twist made so much more sense and I never saw it coming. I enjoyed seeing the virus play out from a brand new and more heartbreaking perspective, and of course I can't argue with a Ben Barnes cameo.

[arista]

I gave up after S2E3, I just couldn't keep up with whatever that is going there :worry:

Yes a Memory
was one episode
only at the end 10mins we see what is really going on.


Also because of Complex story lines
that's why SkyAtlanticHD
has a special talk show named "West Word" 10:10PM
Live right after the 2nd showing
on Monday nights

[Tom4784]

I caught up after a few weeks of being behind. Maeve facing down an army with a samurai sword is EVERYTHING (Shame they skimped out on the battle afterwards but oh well).

The Ghost Walkers :love: It was obvious that they were saving people when we saw them trying to take Sizemore from Maeve and when they tried to capture William's daughter but I didn't see that they were trying to protect Maeve's daughter all along at all. It was a lovely twist. The whole episode was just brilliant, some people might consider it filler and it kind of is but it's exceptionally well done filler.

That being said, if Maeve dies I'm out tbh.

[Lostie!]

I liked the episode but expected to like it more after seeing it had such rave reviews.

I loved that this episode finally expanded on the Ghost Nation and gave us an explanation for the Maze symbol appearing everywhere last season. And the new context of Maeve's flashbacks will make rewatches of that in season 1 much more rewarding.

I know they had a big story planned for Kissy (the Host William scalped in the very first episode) but scrapped it when Eddie Rouse died, I wonder if any of that has been repurposed for Akecheta's story.

I don't get why the Native American Hosts weren't involved in Dolores' original massacre though. Hope that's explained. I also thought Akecheta being able to go on a stroll of the facility without anyone noticing was pretty silly (but I loved them incorporating the Heart Shaped Box cover from the trailer into the scene and the parallels to the similar Maeve scene last season).

The Deathbringer is a cool af title for Dolores.

[Niamh.]

Just watched 5 episodes back to back, binging is the way to go, ugh love season 2 more than the first

[Nicky91]

i only watched the first few episodes of the second season, but then i got into other series at the moment, so i've given it a hiatus for now, but i will definitely resume watching westworld once i am done with my other shows Lost, Lost in Space and Supergirl

[Ashley.]

These last few episodes have really torn at me emotionally.

I'm not too keen on the Man in Black (to the point where I was cheering him on when he put a gun to his head) but I did quite like those flashback scenes. He really did need fleshing out as a character so I like that they introduced the family setting and how his "obsession" per se had affected them. His descent into paranoia leading to him killing Emily was actually quite intriguing, and probably the first time I have enjoyed one of his storylines.

Also, Teddy in that final scene:

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[Ashley.]

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Was always hoping the MIB might have a bit of a redemption arc but killing your own daughter kinda makes that difficult. Were they just highlighting his paranoia with the whole digging into his forearm thing or might he actually be a host :think:

[Tom4784]

I think William really should have died at the end of the last season, a lot of his scenes feel like filler that ultimately don't serve a point. The only relevance he's had this season are in the scenes when you found out what Delos was up to.

This episode wasn't bad but it did feel as though the show was spinning it's wheels to fill the time.

[MTVN]

He must be quite important to Ford's new narrative and whatever the endgame of that is though seeing as Ford said this game was meant for him

[Tom4784]

But it's not interesting to watch. I think they could easily take William's story relevance and transplant it to someone like Charlotte and you wouldn't lose much. It would have been more poetic to have him die at Dolores' hands at the end of S1.

Unless they pull out a gamechanger in the next episode, I can't see him as anything other than filler.

[Lostie!]

Yeah I've been completely bored with older William all season (although his increasing paranoia about everyone being Ford is pretty hilarious). I was interested in seeing more of his back story but his younger self has only appeared fleetingly this time around.

That said, his paranoia reaching fever pitch and him shooting Emily in this episode was definitely a shocking, interesting turn of events. Though I'm not completely convinced she's dead until we get definite confirmation. Same for how permanent Teddy's death is.

The Ford and Maeve scene was lovely, quite striking seeing Ford actually on the verge of tears. Although her being his favourite will be an idea to get used to since this was only their second scene they've shared throughout the entire show :laugh: It definitely makes sense though as for why he gave her the "escape" narrative.

Very interested to see Clementine in action now they've tinkered with her code to incite nearby Hosts to violence. There's definite intentional symmetry going on with the two Hosts having powers over the others being her and Maeve since they were so closely linked last season.

The promo for the finale was pretty bloody epic, anybody else see it?? Logan in the Valley! A Charlotte Host! Maeve and Clem reunion! :shocked:

[Lostie!]

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[Ashley.]

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Westworld Twitter is hilarious.

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[Lostie!]

:joker:

Westworld Twitter is hilarious.

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[Ross.]

I'm all caught up for the finale!

Old William bores me to tears but him killing his own daughter was a really shocking moment, might be invested in his story again if he's a host after all! Maeve NEEDS to get out of there as she's the best character (I loved the Shogun World episode btw). Her scene with Ford was great. Been a bit more invested in Dolores as well since she went lowkey mad

I have no idea what's going on in this show most of the time

[Tom4784]

I thought the last episode was pretty good but I just don't see where it can go for three more seasons. That episode, save for the last few scenes, could have been a pretty decent ending.

I don't know if I really care for any more seasons tbh. They had a good opportunity to bring the story to an end here with Dolores escaping and with the hosts being safe in their own world. I kinda think they might be stretching it out when this season felt a bit stretched out to begin with especially considering that the main players left alive are quite uninteresting.

I definitely won't be watching if Maeve doesn't come back, they strongly hinted that she will be but if she ain't a series regular then I don't care.

I also think the show needs to drop with the screwy timeline ****, it reeks of the writers thinking they are being clever when they are just being obtuse. It's not difficult to follow but it's aggravating to watch. The timeline **** worked well in the first season but in this one it felt needless.

So basically, I liked the episode but it felt like the end of the road for me. I didn't care for the post scene credits at all since I felt it was quite trope ridden. Westworld works best when it focuses on character driven drama, it's falling into the same trap that Sherlock fell into when the writers were more determined to show off how clever they were than focusing on a coherent story with interesting characters.

[Lostie!]

Yeah it felt very much like the end of the show for much of the episode, especially with many of the Hosts basically going to Host Heaven. I loved it for the most part.

The post credits scene felt unnecessary. They've even said that isn't something that will be a primary focus in season 3 but a tease for where the show will head later.

Some big surprises though. Charlotte killing Elsie :shocked: Charlores killing Charlotte :shocked: Emily really being dead :shocked: It'll be interesting to rewatch the present day scenes knowing that Charlotte was Dolores all along.

Sizemore got a good ending with him delivering Hector's long awaited speech. He definitely grew as a character this season, but I'd be lying if I said I'll miss him though, sorry Ross!

The thing I'm most interested in going into season 3 is who did Dolores smuggle out with her. I like to think Angela is currently in the Charlotte Host since she was Dolores' right hand woman during the uprising but she was completely blown up and tbh I'm just still annoyed she died so soon :laugh:

[Tom4784]

Oh, Sizemore's fate bothered me. It was a complete waste and it felt like something that was done for dramatics rather than logic. He didn't need to sacrifice himself like that and it really pulled me out of the scene. It just felt really pointless. Why couldn't he have just run up to them and distract them for a bit while the others got away? It was dumb.

[Lostie!]

Oh, Sizemore's fate bothered me. It was a complete waste and it felt like something that was done for dramatics rather than logic. He didn't need to sacrifice himself like that and it really pulled me out of the scene. It just felt really pointless. Why couldn't he have just run up to them and distract them for a bit while the others got away? It was dumb.

Yeah that's true tbh and I ended up cringing a little partway through the speech, I just felt it was fitting as the conclusion to his character arc.

One thing I'm growing increasingly jaded with is seeing certain Hosts killed in big dramatic scenes that don't feel all that dramatic because they'll likely be back anyway. Like Maeve, Hector, Armistice and Clementine all dying in this episode, if any stay dead it will be Clementine since she's just a shell at this point anyway. I know the Cradle is gone but I assume Hosts can still be revived if their brain things are still intact.

But I'm a hypocrite because Angela got what seems to be a more permanent death and I'm still hoping she returns :ninja2: Clem too, I was hoping for more insight into her post lobotomy state and there was definitely still some of her old self buried underneath. There's interesting avenues to explore there but apparently we just need more William going on a pointless quest again.

[Tom4784]

Yeah, the character decisions in this show are odd. I don't really know how this series could last three more seasons.

[arista]

I thought the last episode was pretty good but I just don't see where it can go for three more seasons. That episode, save for the last few scenes, could have been a pretty decent ending.

I don't know if I really care for any more seasons tbh. They had a good opportunity to bring the story to an end here with Dolores escaping and with the hosts being safe in their own world. I kinda think they might be stretching it out when this season felt a bit stretched out to begin with especially considering that the main players left alive are quite uninteresting.

I definitely won't be watching if Maeve doesn't come back, they strongly hinted that she will be but if she ain't a series regular then I don't care.

I also think the show needs to drop with the screwy timeline ****, it reeks of the writers thinking they are being clever when they are just being obtuse. It's not difficult to follow but it's aggravating to watch. The timeline **** worked well in the first season but in this one it felt needless.

So basically, I liked the episode but it felt like the end of the road for me. I didn't care for the post scene credits at all since I felt it was quite trope ridden. Westworld works best when it focuses on character driven drama, it's falling into the same trap that Sherlock fell into when the writers were more determined to show off how clever they were than focusing on a coherent story with interesting characters.


I think many will come back
as they made more than one robot,
Clever Ending.

[Headie]

William is so annoying, how you gonna tell me that this deluded old man can shoot up a whole armed rescue squad and thousands of hi-tech robots

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[Headie]

I thought the last episode was pretty good but I just don't see where it can go for three more seasons. That episode, save for the last few scenes, could have been a pretty decent ending.

I don't know if I really care for any more seasons tbh. They had a good opportunity to bring the story to an end here with Dolores escaping and with the hosts being safe in their own world. I kinda think they might be stretching it out when this season felt a bit stretched out to begin with especially considering that the main players left alive are quite uninteresting.

I definitely won't be watching if Maeve doesn't come back, they strongly hinted that she will be but if she ain't a series regular then I don't care.

I also think the show needs to drop with the screwy timeline ****, it reeks of the writers thinking they are being clever when they are just being obtuse. It's not difficult to follow but it's aggravating to watch. The timeline **** worked well in the first season but in this one it felt needless.

So basically, I liked the episode but it felt like the end of the road for me. I didn't care for the post scene credits at all since I felt it was quite trope ridden. Westworld works best when it focuses on character driven drama, it's falling into the same trap that Sherlock fell into when the writers were more determined to show off how clever they were than focusing on a coherent story with interesting characters.

Pretty much agree with all of this :worship: Couldn't have put it better myself

[Headie]

The finale was WAY too chaotic for a show that wants to drag itself out for a large number of seasons

Kinda wish this show had just ended after the first season tbh, watching has felt like a chore rather than an enjoyment

[Tom4784]

It's annoying that they've taken the park out of the equation now as well, they spent so long teasing the different parks and it was all basically for nothing.

[Ashley.]

They tried to do too much and unlike the first season, it didn't pay off. When you're opening up so many different stories and expanding on all these characters, you can't try to tie up the loose ends in the space of half an hour and not have it look like a mess.

This season had a lot more emotionally charged moments which I loved, such as Maeve's daughter, Akecheta and Dolores/Peter and quite a few enjoyable moments overall, but the first season I felt was smoother and had more structure.

[Tom4784]

They tried to do too much and unlike the first season, it didn't pay off. When you're opening up so many different stories and expanding on all these characters, you can't try to tie up the loose ends in the space of half an hour and not have it look like a mess.

This season had a lot more emotionally charged moments which I loved, such as Maeve's daughter, Akecheta and Dolores/Peter and quite a few enjoyable moments overall, but the first season I felt was smoother and had more structure.

Definitely, It had an overall story that couldn't really hold an entire season but they jammed about two seasons worth of events and developments into it...if that makes sense.

A lot happened and it was messy.

[Ross.]

It's annoying that they've taken the park out of the equation now as well, they spent so long teasing the different parks and it was all basically for nothing.

They said something about how they are still going to be exploring the parks “because not all of our favourite characters have escaped” in one of the interviews after the finale

Idk who they’re talking about though :skull:

[Ross.]

Sizemore’s death was needless but I’m okay with it

If Maeve is not still a leading character in Season 3 though I’M OUT!

[Ross.]

And I quite liked the finale tbh

I think because the pacing can be so frustrating in this show I actually liked having a action filled episode

[Ross.]

The finale was WAY too chaotic for a show that wants to drag itself out for a large number of seasons

Kinda wish this show had just ended after the first season tbh, watching has felt like a chore rather than an enjoyment

A Quantico watch coming instead? :clap1:

[Tom4784]

They said something about how they are still going to be exploring the parks “because not all of our favourite characters have escaped” in one of the interviews after the finale

Idk who they’re talking about though :skull:

That sounds so messy though. The finale definitely seemed like it was closing the book on the parks so it just feels half baked to bring it back now.

I get the impression that the writers wanted a big game changing finale but have realised in retrospect that they pushed the story too far along too quickly.

[Lostie!]

Tbh I never felt like this finale was taking Westworld itself out of the equation, especially considering Maeve amongst others are still there.

I think season 3 will have a much bigger focus on the outside world but still follow events happening in the parks too.

[Ashley.]

The scene where Maeve lets her daughter go/Akecheta reunites with Kohana was really quite lovely. Sizemore sacrificing himself so that Maeve could save her daughter was a nice touch but didn't really make much sense considering everybody else were so easily able to escape.

[Ashley.]

Be interesting to find out who's using Charlotte's body as a host now that we know it's no longer Dolores. :think:

[Lostie!]

Be interesting to find out who's using Charlotte's body as a host now that we know it's no longer Dolores. :think:

After thinking more about this, I don't think any pre existing Host is. I reckon after Dolores got her own body back, she coded a Charlotte personality into the empty Host, so she's like what Bernard is to Arnold.

And she's probably using Charbot to infiltrate Delos, which would be an interesting twist on the plot of the Westworld movie sequel Futureworld, where Delos had important people killed and replaced back in the outside world by robot clones. This time its a robot orchestrating it, using the tactic against Delos.

Am I right in thinking the final scene was the first time the show has played an actual original recording rather than a piano cover? I liked it, gave the ending a really different vibe (and I had no idea it was a Radiohead song until I looked it up because I liked it, nice symmetry with season 1 ending with Radiohead too)