Is it being fanciful and naive to want a Channel 4 style production of Big Brother?

[thediaryroomchair]

I was watching Ultimate Big Brother back these last few days and was shocked with how better produced the highlights show were.

There was no overuse of the name tags for the housemates or there was no incidental music or Marcus Bentley being used too much.

I just hark for those days where the house mates we got were not the sons of famous chefs or have been in the public eye before.

I thought the idea of Big Brother was to audition for house mates who were ordinary members of the public like you and I wanting to participate in an once in a lifetime experience.

Not already be sort of famous and want to enhance their media career as these housemates we have got this series. That is the reason I do not watch the main series. At least with the last series we had Jack who worked in McDonalds and the money he got changed not only his life but his families.

If someone in this years house wins, you wonder what impact if any it will have. Stop going to casting agencies for housemates and get real people wanting to experience the house for themselves.

I am one of the Channel 4 Big Brother fans and I gave Big Brother a go on 5. I just do not want the show on the air in the way it is at the moment as it could be so much better.

Get Sharon Powers, Phil Edgar Jones back on board as senior advisors for better creative input.

[Babayaro.]

Many of us feel the exact same way

[Yaki da]

At this point it is. I hoped after Big Brother 14 (the most successful series on Channel 5) they would head in the right direction but they took their meddling to an all time high the following year and reduced the live coverage that we were given. I had hopes that the failures of Big Brother 15 would at least make them return to something closer to BB13/14 (Neither of which were close to ideal) but BB16 was even worse.

The thing that frustrates me is people who try to make out the first two weeks of BB16 were a return to the old days just because the housemates were "Nicer" than the previous year. Showbiz was evicted without a public vote (something that happened to Marlon and Danielle the previous year which led to a lot of complaints), Nick was told he had to nominate face to face every week (a punishment that meant nothing) and Jack won immunity for 3 weeks (after all the controversy with Helen). There was this sort of interference on the FIRST night. And the choice of housemates were appalling. The men were wimps and the girls were older and dull. It was a terrible series.

The fact is the producers can't help themselves. They're addicted to getting involved. It's nothing new. They did this on Channel 4 as well and ruined the programme back then. It was BB10 that was the first to take away a massive amount of live coverage and that was the worst rated series ever on Channel 4.

The last truly good series imo was BB9.

I would just add that I don't buy into the idea that BB was always for just "Normal people". BB1 was full of people who wanted television careers. Dean from BB2 was in a band that had had a recording contract and Narrinder was as fame hungry as anyone I'd ever seen on television. I don't have a problem with this. It's to be expected. But the choice of housemates is the least of the problems.

[Niamh.]

Unfortunately I think those days are far behind us, as much as us die hard fans wish it wasn't so, seems like the future of Big brother is minor celebs and a TOWIE/Geordie Shore type of thing

[Niamh.]

At this point it is. I hoped after Big Brother 14 (the most successful series on Channel 5) they would head in the right direction but they took their meddling to an all time high the following year and reduced the live coverage that we were given. I had hopes that the failures of Big Brother 15 would at least make them return to something closer to BB13/14 (Neither of which were close to ideal) but BB16 was even worse.

The thing that frustrates me is people who try to make out the first two weeks of BB16 were a return to the old days just because the housemates were "Nicer" than the previous year. Showbiz was evicted without a public vote (something that happened to Marlon and Danielle the previous year which led to a lot of complaints), Nick was told he had to nominate face to face every week (a punishment that meant nothing) and Jack won immunity for 3 weeks (after all the controversy with Helen). There was this sort of interference on the FIRST night. And the choice of housemates were appalling. The men were wimps and the girls were older and dull. It was a terrible series.

The fact is the producers can't help themselves. They're addicted to getting involved. It's nothing new. They did this on Channel 4 as well and ruined the programme back then. It was BB10 that was the first to take away a massive amount of live coverage and that was the worst rated series ever on Channel 4.

The last truly good series imo was BB9.

Was it? They still had good amounts of Live feed for BB10 though, I remember it as the last show I watched through the night sometimes when good stuff was going on. BB10 is actually in my top 5, the HMs were so good that year

[Yaki da]

Was it? They still had good amounts of Live feed for BB10 though, I remember it as the last show I watched through the night sometimes when good stuff was going on. BB10 is actually in my top 5, the HMs were so good that year

BB10 was the first series that did not have 24/7 coverage. The live feed on E4 would sometimes start as late as 1 am. More often than not the only person awake was Marcus.

BB11 brought the live feed back but only on subscription.

The last series to have the full 24/7 live feed for free was BB9 and that was the last really good series.

[jaxie]

I think it's a bit pointless to hanker for a long gone past of a show that has moved channels. It's not channel 4. It's unlikely to be again.

[Yaki da]

I think it's a bit pointless to hanker for a long gone past of a show that has moved channels. It's not channel 4. It's unlikely to be again.

Except that once upon a time Channel 5 did reality shows that did have 24/7 coverage. Back To Reality had a red button interactive service that allowed viewers to watch 24/7. It was actually a highly amusing series.

[Niamh.]

BB10 was the first series that did not have 24/7 coverage. The live feed on E4 would sometimes start as late as 1 am. More often than not the only person awake was Marcus.

BB11 brought the live feed back but only on subscription.

The last series to have the full 24/7 live feed for free was BB9 and that was the last really good series.

I didn't watch BB9, I hated BB8 so decided to take a break after that, i did enjoy BB10 though

[TT350]

Yes. Definitely.

When things usrd to unfold naturally and not artificially induced by scenarios BB cooks up.

[Yaki da]

I didn't watch BB9, I hated BB8 so decided to take a break after that, i did enjoy BB10 though

Big Brother 8 was the death knell for BB on Channel 4. It came after the Jade Goody fiasco but so many things were wrong it...

1. The all female start

2. The drip feeding of men into the house

3. The hysterical overreaction to Emily's silly mistake

4. The appalling ejection of Emily in the middle of the night with her saying "But I'm not wearing any underwear" as she was told to exit.

5. The fixing of nominations to keep Charley in longer than anyone could bear (after bringing Nikki back the year before)

6. The abysmal Half way house idea (which they seem to have been inspired by this year and which ended up being even worse)

BB7 had, until Nikki's eviction, an average viewing audience of 4.8 million. BB10 had an average viewing audience of less than 2.5 million. They lost over 2 million viewers in a couple of years.

As for BB10. It was awful. In the first week they had Sophie and Freddie rename themselves Dogface and Halfwit. They had Noirin walking around with glasses and a moustache drawn on her face. The live coverage was seriously reduced and the tasks were utter crap.

[Samm]

It's pointless to think like that, RTV in general has moved on there wasn't any TOWIE/GS etc when C4 were producing BB. As much as it was better it's never going to happen.

[Yaki da]

It's pointless to think like that, RTV in general has moved on there wasn't any TOWIE/GS etc when C4 were producing BB.

What baffles me is the influence these shows have had on television. They got what? 1 million viewers on ITV2? Yet they've influenced X factor and Britain's Got Talent (with their scripted backstage stuff), 2 shows that get 8 - 12 million viewers, and some bright spark thought it was better for BB to go in something like this direction on Channel 5 rather than go back to how things used to be done on Channel 4 when it could get peak audiences of 5 million+.

[Jay_Roberts441]

The only way we will get a Channel 4 produced quality version of Big Brother is if it was back on Channel 4.

Channel 5 have their cheap, tacky and TOWIE/GS/EoTB version of the show which we have no way of getting rid of unless the people that hate the show stop watching and ratings go >1m every night even for CBB. They also have their target audience of teenagers, LGBT and middle aged women to cater for whereas Channel 4s Big Brother was for everyone to watch.

I would love Big Brother to be axed by Channel 5 and go to a professional channel like Channel 4 or even Sky and let them get BBUK back to some sort of decent show again.

[Niamh.]

Big Brother 8 was the death knell for BB on Channel 4. It came after the Jade Goody fiasco but so many things were wrong it...

1. The all female start

2. The drip feeding of men into the house

3. The hysterical overreaction to Emily's silly mistake

4. The appalling ejection of Emily in the middle of the night with her saying "But I'm not wearing any underwear" as she was told to exit.

5. The fixing of nominations to keep Charley in longer than anyone could bear (after bringing Nikki back the year before)

6. The abysmal Half way house idea (which they seem to have been inspired by this year and which ended up being even worse)

BB7 had, until Nikki's eviction, an average viewing audience of 4.8 million. BB10 had an average viewing audience of less than 2.5 million. They lost over 2 million viewers in a couple of years.

As for BB10. It was awful. In the first week they had Sophie and Freddie rename themselves Dogface and Halfwit. They had Noirin walking around with glasses and a moustache drawn on her face. The live coverage was seriously reduced and the tasks were utter crap.

I agree with all the points you made about BB8, exactly why i skipped BB9. BB10 i agree that the producers put no effort into tasks/twists etc but I believe that it had arguably the best mix of HMs in there and they managed to carry the series themselves and make it pretty good

[Yaki da]

I agree with all the points you made about BB8, exactly why i skipped BB9. BB10 i agree that the producers put no effort into tasks/twists etc but I believe that it had arguably the best mix of HMs in there and they managed to carry the series themselves and make it pretty good

I dunno. There was a lot of dead wood that series. New housemates that walked out pretty soon after entering, who no one remembers. I don't think the mix was as good as BB2, BB3, BB5, BB6, BB7 or BB9. I think BB11 actually provided me with more laughs. I thought Ben was hysterical that year.

I did like Sophie and Marcus a lot though. In fact, Sophie remains my fave winner.

[Niamh.]

I dunno. There was a lot of dead wood that series. New housemates that walked out pretty soon after entering, who no one remembers. I don't think the mix was as good as BB2, BB3, BB5, BB6, BB7 or BB9. I think BB11 actually provided me with more laughs. I thought Ben was hysterical that year.

I did like Sophie and Marcus a lot though. In fact, Sophie remains my fave winner.

Oh God, here's where we completely disagree then haha, i hated all the BB11 Hms :laugh:

BB10 had some legends (love or hate)

Freddie, Marcus, Sree, Angel, Isaac, Bea, Siavash, Noirín even Rodrigo. Sophie for me was dull and a crap winner :fan:

Brian Dowling is by far the best winner imo :hee:

[Mystic Mock]

Big Brother 8 was the death knell for BB on Channel 4. It came after the Jade Goody fiasco but so many things were wrong it...

1. The all female start

2. The drip feeding of men into the house

3. The hysterical overreaction to Emily's silly mistake

4. The appalling ejection of Emily in the middle of the night with her saying "But I'm not wearing any underwear" as she was told to exit.

5. The fixing of nominations to keep Charley in longer than anyone could bear (after bringing Nikki back the year before)

6. The abysmal Half way house idea (which they seem to have been inspired by this year and which ended up being even worse)

BB7 had, until Nikki's eviction, an average viewing audience of 4.8 million. BB10 had an average viewing audience of less than 2.5 million. They lost over 2 million viewers in a couple of years.

As for BB10. It was awful. In the first week they had Sophie and Freddie rename themselves Dogface and Halfwit. They had Noirin walking around with glasses and a moustache drawn on her face. The live coverage was seriously reduced and the tasks were utter crap.

Tbf this happened because the production cast badly that year and Charley was the only real A star Housemate that they had that series.

[Yaki da]

Oh God, here's where we completely disagree then haha, i hated all the BB11 Hms :laugh:

Much better group in general than BB10 imo. Apart from the ones left with Josie at the end. And it wasn't the mess that BB10 was until the end.

BB10 had some legends (love or hate)

Freddie, Marcus, Sree, Angel, Isaac, Bea, Siavash, Noirín even Rodrigo. Sophie for me was dull and a crap winner :fan:

I'm at a loss as to how Angel and Isaac were "Legends". Siavash was awful. Bea was truly frightening though.

Sophie was funny when she was drunk.

[Mystic Mock]

Siavash had a great sense of humour until about the last 3 weeks I'd say.

[Yaki da]

Tbf this happened because the production cast badly that year and Charley was the only real A star Housemate that they had that series.

She never had any popularity like Nikki did though, who both her and Chanelle seemed to be imitating. A lot of people did like Chanelle though.

[Niamh.]

Much better group in general than BB10 imo. Apart from the ones left with Josie at the end. And it wasn't the mess that BB10 was until the end.



I'm at a loss as to how Angel and Isaac were "Legends". Siavash was awful. Bea was truly frightening though.

Sophie was funny when she was drunk.

They were interesting HMs, fascinating to watch. Sophie imo faked being drunk and showing your knickers isn't what i consider funny

[Yaki da]

Siavash had a great sense of humour until about the last 3 weeks I'd say.

It passed me by. I remember Marcus saying Siavash wouldn't win because he was too much of a "Bull****ter"

I think Bea was probably the best late entrant ever. Probably the scariest woman ever on the show. And one of my favourite moments was the following year just after Ben had been evicted, he was in the BBBM audience with Bea there as well and introduced her saying "I've just met this lovely person Bea" :laugh:

[Niamh.]

It passed me by. I remember Marcus saying Siavash wouldn't win because he was too much of a "Bull****ter"

I think Bea was probably the best late entrant ever. Probably the scariest woman ever on the show. And one of my favourite moments was the following year just after Ben had been evicted, he was in the BBBM audience with Bea there as well and introduced her saying "I've just met this lovely person Bea" :laugh:

terrifying woman but compelling viewing, this is what I mean, I hated her but what a HM all the same

[Mystic Mock]

She never had any popularity like Nikki did though, who both her and Chanelle seemed to be imitating. A lot of people did like Chanelle though.

Charley was a mix of Science and Nikki which was gonna give her a more iconic presence for the die hards (which the show will want to please to an extent) than someone just copying her Diary Room rants and then is just in a dull Showmance for the rest of the time.

[Jason.]

I adore Bea <33

True sociopath but made such a great villain

[Yaki da]

Charley was a mix of Science and Nikki which was gonna give her a more iconic presence for the die hards (which the show will want to please to an extent) than someone just copying her Diary Room rants and then is just in a dull Showmance for the rest of the time.

I thought she was an overbearing housemate who was rather one dimensional personally. She was never particularly popular with diehards. Digital Spy posters couldn't wait to get rid of her and didn't like the way the producers fiddled with nominations to keep her in.

[y.winter]

I guess I'm with the few people who like Bea. She was brilliant :love:
I even liked Lisa.

Surreal series.:hehe:

[Niamh.]

I guess I'm with the few people who like Bea. She was brilliant :love:
I even liked Lisa.

Surreal series.:hehe:

actually one of the funniest moments for me from BB10 was Charlie (who I didn't like either) doing impressions of BB voice overs if Lisa and David were the last two HM left

[jennyjuniper]

I long for those days too. When showmances happened and were not contrived. When housemates didn't have agents and rows evolved naturally and not as a desperate bid for air time. Sadly, as long as this show stays with channel 5 I don't think it will change, except maybe for the worse. Because channel 5 only seem to think that if they show enough sex and aggression, it's bound to be a success.

[mrflibble]

Big Brother 8 was the death knell for BB on Channel 4. It came after the Jade Goody fiasco but so many things were wrong it...

1. The all female start

2. The drip feeding of men into the house

3. The hysterical overreaction to Emily's silly mistake

4. The appalling ejection of Emily in the middle of the night with her saying "But I'm not wearing any underwear" as she was told to exit.

5. The fixing of nominations to keep Charley in longer than anyone could bear (after bringing Nikki back the year before)

6. The abysmal Half way house idea (which they seem to have been inspired by this year and which ended up being even worse)

BB7 had, until Nikki's eviction, an average viewing audience of 4.8 million. BB10 had an average viewing audience of less than 2.5 million. They lost over 2 million viewers in a couple of years.

As for BB10. It was awful. In the first week they had Sophie and Freddie rename themselves Dogface and Halfwit. They had Noirin walking around with glasses and a moustache drawn on her face. The live coverage was seriously reduced and the tasks were utter crap.

I'm currently making my way through all the BB's for the first time and it was BB8 where I noticed it all going completely downhill for all the reasons you've stated. I've already watched all the C5 BB's, so I've only got a few left now but all the things I dislike about BB now started occurring in BB8. I still found it moderately entertaining, but it was pretty bad.

[Greg!]

The current style of editing started in BB11 though. The only difference now is that they play music at the start of the episodes and have recaps before the titles. I would like it if the old style of editing came back but I've accepted that it's never going to happen

[Louuis]

what do people think of the chances that, if big brother was dropped tomorrow, channel 4 would have it back? or any other channel that could give good quality production?

[StephenPullen]

I honestly believe that Big Brother in the UK has come to the end of its life. I think for one year they should try and adopt the North American style of Big Brother: HOH, Noms, Veto and Eviction. Perhaps there needs to be a refresh of the whole thing and make it more of an actual 'game' instead of a popularity contest of attention-seekers and simpletons.

[StephenPullen]

The current style of editing started in BB11 though. The only difference now is that they play music at the start of the episodes and have recaps before the titles. I would like it if the old style of editing came back but I've accepted that it's never going to happen

Agreed. Loved the old style of editing. Even Marcus's voice has changed, it's awful.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

the closest we've got was BB12, that felt classic BB but the ones that followed were a scripted & manipulated mess :facepalm:

[Jason.]

^

BB13 was actually really natural too. And there was hardly any meddling from the producers part either. That all started in BB14

[Marsh.]

Yes, BB11 started the change of some things, like musical montages etc. But it was never on the scale of what they did in BB12 or now.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

^

BB13 was actually really natural too. And there was hardly any meddling from the producers part either. That all started in BB14

BB13 natural?, BB allowed them too talk about nominations from the start & as a result the house was full of obnoxious bullies, WORST SERIES EVER!

[Marsh.]

BB13

WORST SERIES EVER!

CLOCK IT! :clap1:

[Jason.]

not really, BB allowed them too talk about nominations from the start & as a result the house was full of obnoxious bullies, WORST SERIES EVER!

But that was also present during the second half of BB12-onwards? BB13 only had that rule for the first two weeks.

And I don't think them being allowed to talk about nominations is why the house was full of obnoxious people - although it did heighten the bitching, backstabbing, and paranoia within the house but that was still present weeks after that rule had been reverted.

And it's not the worst series ever. The majority of series on C5 have been way worse. Nice try loov

[y.winter]

Nomination discussions killed Lydia's game, but still C5 best series.

[Jamesy]

BB14 is still my favourite C5 series. If C5 want to continue with silly editing and twists, BB14 shows the way to do it while still creating a good series. BB15/16 just took it too far and that shows in drop in ratings since BB14. The whole point of twists and secret houses and this that and the other is that it's rare, having one every week doesn't make it a twist, or a secret, it just makes it a part of the format.

There's just so much wrong with the show as it is now, from the casting right down to shopping tasks (which are exactly the same every week, just with a different cover).

It's early days with BB17, there hasn't been anything too bad yet, the reveal of the others/second house was done in a very C4 way (no VTs of people arguing and bitching), the casting is still messy but they've provided entertainment so far and last weeks eviction was amazing, so well produced! Editing is still all over the place and Marcus needs to shut up with some of the silly narrating. Tasks are as unimaginative as always also.

[Oaker]

How can people complain about how BB isn't how it used to be on C4 when their favourite C5 series is BB14, you know, the series where the production because unfair and biased, normal nominations were few and far between and there were twists basically every week.

I still think BB14 is a good series, but I just find it silly how people bash BB13 all the time when it was the most natural C5 series ever.

[Jason.]

I quite enjoyed the first two weeks where they could discussion nominations - it increased gameplay and it made the dynamics more interesting. But not to the point, where it got constant and boring or tedious like the whole Power Housemate thing in the second week of BB15.

[Jason.]

How can people complain about how BB isn't how it used to be on C4 when their favourite C5 series is BB14, you know, the series where the production because unfair and biased, normal nominations were few and far between and there were twists basically every week.

It had a vegetable patch = YAY C4 BB / BACK TO BASICS :cheer2:

[BB-J*I*N*X]

But that was also present during the second half of BB12-onwards? BB13 only had that rule for the first two weeks.

And I don't think them being allowed to talk about nominations is why the house was full of obnoxious people - although it did heighten the bitching, backstabbing, and paranoia within the house but that was still present weeks after that rule had been reverted.

And it's not the worst series ever. The majority of series on C5 have been way worse. Nice try loov

that's what killed the series & it set in stone the constant bitching & nastiness, without this rule it might have been more pleasant not unconformable, AWFUL series

[Oaker]

It had a vegetable patch = YAY C4 BB / BACK TO BASICS :cheer2:

I don't think I ever saw them use it :hehe:

[BB-J*I*N*X]

I adore Bea <33

True sociopath but made such a great villain

I hope you're happy *Crocodile tears & sobs uncontrollably*

[Marsh.]

How can people complain about how BB isn't how it used to be on C4 when their favourite C5 series is BB14, you know, the series where the production because unfair and biased, normal nominations were few and far between and there were twists basically every week.

I still think BB14 is a good series, but I just find it silly how people bash BB13 all the time when it was the most natural C5 series ever.

Because the production of a series is meaningless when the housemates are sh*te.

BB14's cast saved it, not the production.

[Jason.]

BB14's cast was largely dull bar like 3 people.

BB13 had a better cast even if it was filled with vile people.

Take away Gina and Hazel and what do you get from BB14?

It's all subjective really

[Marsh.]

BB14's cast was largely dull bar like 3 people.

BB13 had a better cast even if it was filled with vile people.

Take away Gina and Hazel and what do you get from BB14?

It's all subjective really

BB13 was full of the same horrid personality.

BB14 had a good mix.

[Oaker]

Because the production of a series is meaningless when the housemates are sh*te.

BB14's cast saved it, not the production.

But BB13 had a better cast anyway :shrug:.

Half of BB14's cast were dull and uninteresting, yet pretty much everyone in BB13 played an important role in the series, even Victoria.

[Jason.]

that's what killed the series & it set in stone the constant bitching & nastiness, without this rule it might have been more pleasant not unconformable, AWFUL series

Not really. The series was volatile and nasty because there was a strong divide in the house which stemmed from hatred and personality clashes amongst the housemates. Them being allowed to talk about nominations just meant it benefitted one group more than the other as they were outnumbered.

I mean the two biggest controversies of BB13; Conor's comments towards Deana and Caroline's comments towards Adam had nothing to do with them being allowed to discuss nominations at one point.

You can keep bolding and underlining your opinion - it doesn't make it anything else. :hee:

[Marsh.]

But BB13 had a better cast anyway :shrug:.

Half of BB14's cast were dull and uninteresting, yet pretty much everyone in BB13 played an important role in the series, even Victoria.

"Important role" depends what you mean. They were all the same.

Pretty much like I feel about BB17. Just the same personality x18.

Whether you found BB14's dull or not, they were a lot more individual.

[Jason.]

BB14's cast was more diverse than BB13's. But diverse doesn't mean it'll always be a good cast. On paper, BB13's cast sounds awful but it worked well.

[Jake.]

bb14's cast was awful really lol

[Oaker]

The fact that 90% of BB14's storylines focused around Hazel really showed how crap the cast was, they couldn't even create interesting storylines around themselves, it was all Hazel and partly Gina.

[Marsh.]

BB14's cast was more diverse than BB13's. But diverse doesn't mean it'll always be a good cast. On paper, BB13's cast sounds awful but it worked well.

Well for me it was good. :oh:

BB13's was like 17's for me. I just can't take to them, they don't keep me interested enough to want to switch on every night.

[Marsh.]

The fact that 90% of BB14's storylines focused around Hazel really showed how crap the cast was, they couldn't even create interesting storylines around themselves.

Yeah, the series long Dexter/Charlie/Callum/Jackie mess revolved around Hazel.

[Jake.]

Yeah, the series long Dexter/Charlie/Callum/Jackie mess revolved around Hazel.

An awful, uninteresting storyline though

[Oaker]

Yeah, the series long Dexter/Charlie/Callum/Jackie mess revolved around Hazel.

That's why I said 90%, and anyway that wasn't even a good story line, it was dull and repetitive.

[Marsh.]

An awful, uninteresting storyline though

Yeah, but it was probably the longest lasting one and had nothing to do with Hazel.

[Marsh.]

it was dull and repetitive.

Kind of like Deana the victim.

[Jason.]

Like legit Conor played a bigger role in BB13 than people like the Twins/Sam/Dan/Sophie played in BB14.

That's saying something

[y.winter]

BB14 has a lighter plot and was much more fun, whereas BB13 was darker and heavier.
BB14 was basically around Gina, Dex and Hazel, whereas BB13 had more housemates sharing the highlights (outsiders vs insiders).
So they both have their pros and cons, but they're both great.

[Marsh.]

Like legit Conor played a bigger role in BB13 than people like the Twins/Sam/Dan/Sophie played in BB14.

That's saying something

Yes, and what an awful role that was. :worry:

[Oaker]

BB14 is also really dull in the last few weeks whereas BB13 manages to stay entertaining throughout and never has a dull week (apart from week 7 but even that isn't too bad) and that's purely because it's cast can carry it and make it entertaining, even when 3 big characters where evicted in the first 3 weeks.

[Marsh.]

I suppose it depends on what it takes to entertain you.

Negativity, shouting and arguing all the time gets boring after about two episodes.

[Jake.]

I suppose it depends on what it takes to entertain you.

Negativity, shouting and arguing all the time gets boring after about two episodes.

I wpuldn't describe BB13 as shouty though, and there wasn't actually all that many arguments

I'd say this series has got a great mix of arguments and humour so far

[Marsh.]

I'd say this series has got a great mix of arguments and humour so far

There's just something about this year stopping me from wanting to watch. :worry: I have no interest in any of them.

[Oaker]

There's just something about this year stopping me from wanting to watch. :worry: I have no interest in any of them.

I didn't like the cast that much at first tbh but they've all turned out interesting imo, well apart from Alex who is one of the dullest housemates ever.

[Jason.]

I wpuldn't describe BB13 as shouty though, and there wasn't actually all that many arguments

I'd say this series has got a great mix of arguments and humour so far

IA. That fits more for BB15.

BB13 was more bitchy if anything

[Ross.]

Natalie is so screwed </3

[Ross.]

Oh wrong thread :joker:

[Pete.]

Honestly feel like this series has been very Ch4

[Marsh.]

Honestly feel like this series has been very Ch4

Or as MB put it, a very bad impression of a C4 series.

[iloveaisleyne]

I honestly don't get why if they know viewers enjoyed the Channel 4 series, why they don't go back to that style e.g
- Nobodies in the house, the most famous I can think of on a CH4 civillian series is Derek Laud e.g no reality stars/limited in terms of models...Remember BB6? BB5? Some of the most exciting characters had pretty plain jobs or were students. Kemal worked at a passport office, Craig was a hairdresser, Emma Greenwood worked for a legal company, Makosi was a nurse etc.
- The little audition rooms where they literally had a minute to make a good first impression & the games/discussions they did to prove that they were actually interesting characters
- Going to hiding in a foreign country way before so they didn't see any press. I distinctly remember the places they lived weren't palaces, they were bog-standard isolated places.
- Davina. I like Emma willis but I do kind of miss Davina
- BBLB & BBBM
- 24/7 Live feed
- No music. Ever. There was literally no music at all on launch night apart from their VT's etc.
- Best bits were so much better on CH4, as were the plain VT's of them literally just speaking
- Fun tasks e.g the box task opposed to ones deliberately created to cause arguments
- Lack of food/alcohol. The lack of food caused constant rows in BB6 and it seems now housemates don't even mention food.

There's probably more things I'm missing tbh. I wish they would go back to this but deep down I know they never will.

[Yaki da]

Honestly feel like this series has been very Ch4

For Ch4 read "Live feed"