This Jayne bullying in the house is horrible

[Will.]

Disgusting! Poor Jayne :(

[reece(:]

Stay strong Jayne!

[Pete.]

The worst thing is the public generally share in this hate

[Ross.]

It's actually uncomfortable to watch how desperate Chelsea is to turn them all against her

[Daniel.]

Chelsea should be kicked he's an annoying piece of **** that it hurts to look at or listen to

[reece(:]

Chelsea ejected

[Will.]

the comments Chelsea just made about Jayne are vile.

[Daniel.]

Slut shaming piece of trash

[Will.]

Get the vile pig out

[GiRTh]

Is she being bullied or is it just Chelsea's clear vendetta against her?

[Will.]

Is she being bullied or is it just Chelsea's clear vendetta against her?

A lot of them seem to be picking on her though.

[GiRTh]

Chelseas leading it. Disappointed the other Hm's are following him so much.

[Braden]

I'm #hatinglife tbh.

[Garfie]

Sadly, they don't seem to like her, but I don't think it's just Chelsea's influence but the whole cleaning thing. I think it's a reaction to that, rather than bullying. However, I am finding her rants rather amusing, so hope they don't target her.

[lewis111]

It's put me off this episode quite a lot
Hoping it ends well and Jayne makes the final

[sampvt]

loving it when karma strikes back. she now knows how all those cheating spouses she outed feel, lol.

[Wizard.]

Chelsea only does it behind her back because he has tiny balls and a wrinkly scrotum!

[dyfed]

Chelsea is one bitter nasty person,he definitely got his claws into her,I felt so sorry for Jayne ,how sad to watch him enjoy putting her down..I hope it comes to bite him in the arse ��

[billy123]

Dont be so wet.

[Daniel-X]

Ew all the HMs are sheeps and Chelsea is the second worst HM ever.

[Vicky.]

I feel quite sorry for her today, though it was just a task tbf. But even them all bitching ab out her not wanting to live in a pigsty. You expect a bit of...singling out...when a newbie joins but tonight has been a bit uncomfortable. I wouldn't particularly be using the bully word yet though. Maybe soon if it continues :(

[Jake.]

It's like Eileen all over again

[hot2go]

It's actually uncomfortable to watch how desperate Chelsea is to turn them all against her

Well maybe she'll now know what it felt like when she tried to do that to him and his family.....

Luckily she failed because the housemates still like him and they clearly can't stand the sight of her...

clever little housemates :laugh:

[lewis111]

She doesn't appear to be getting much FB/Twitter support

[Lostie!]

She doesn't appear to be getting much FB/Twitter support

I've seen a fair bit on Twitter since Chelsea went into overdrive tbh.

[MojoNixon]

Chelsea is great. Jayne is boring, wonder why everyone likes her.

[hot2go]

[QUOTE=Jake.;8748120]It's like Eileen all over again[/QUOTE

Don't see how..?..Eileen was warm and funny and genuine

[rusticgal]

Chelsea is as thick as ****....making her a target for his own gain will only give Jayne public support...:joker:...

[Mitchell]

Chelsea is a ****ing wanker, I'm feeling totally uncomfortable watching him borderline bullying Jayne.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

they were nasty too Queen Jayne :(

[Garfie]

Chelsea only does it behind her back because he has tiny balls and a wrinkly scrotum!

Tee hee! :laugh:

[MojoNixon]

Disgusting! Poor Jayne :(

What bullying?

[MojoNixon]

Chelsea is a ****ing wanker, I'm feeling totally uncomfortable watching him borderline bullying Jayne.

No hes not. Don't be ridiculous. Jayne is boring old woman, only thing she do is moan about cleaning the house.

[Mitchell]

No hes not. Don't be ridiculous. Jayne is boring old woman, only thing she do is moan about cleaning the house.

The way he was today about Jayne was vile Mojo, different opinions and all, but he's a horrible man, people call Natalie a bully, Chelsea is worse.

[MojoNixon]

The way he was today about Jayne was vile Mojo, different opinions and all, but he's a horrible man, people call Natalie a bully, Chelsea is worse.

No.

[fitz2k2]

Chelsea is the real bully duhhhh

[Cherie]

loving it when karma strikes back. she now knows how all those cheating spouses she outed feel, lol.

Lol I love Jayne though

[Tom4784]

Every one of the original HMs that isn't Jason are completely and utterly spineless.

[Mitchell]

Every one of the original HMs that isn't Jason are completely and utterly spineless.

I agree! I can give or take Lateysha, but the rest of them can piss off

[Tom4784]

Chelsea's a vicious little liar and it's plain for everyone to see.

Someone who is innocent does not resort to pouring poison in people's ears, they don't resort to mudslinging and character asassination yet Chelsea's been doing exactly that from the moment he knew Jayne was in the house. He's a misogynistic bully that's desperate to get Jayne out the house because her mere presence is enough to completely destroy his bull**** act.

[Lostie!]

Chelsea's a vicious little liar and it's plain for everyone to see.

Someone who is innocent does not resort to pouring poison in people's ears, they don't resort to mudslinging and character asassination yet Chelsea's been doing exactly that from the moment he knew Jayne was in the house. He's a misogynistic bully that's desperate to get Jayne out the house because her mere presence is enough to completely destroy his bull**** act.

:clap2:

[Beso]

Chelsea's a vicious little liar and it's plain for everyone to see.

Someone who is innocent does not resort to pouring poison in people's ears, they don't resort to mudslinging and character asassination yet Chelsea's been doing exactly that from the moment he knew Jayne was in the house. He's a misogynistic bully that's desperate to get Jayne out the house because her mere presence is enough to completely destroy his bull**** act.

Oh heaven forbid a contestant on bb tries to get another contestant evicted.:joker:

[rionablue]

Disgusting! Poor Jayne :(

Sorry Jayne has made her own bed. When she went into that house she is finding fault left right and centre. I don't think Chelsea should have manipulated the other two when it came to chosing the most and least but I cant warm to Jayne; As one of the housemates said. Its the big brother house there are a lot of people now shacked up in it. She has seen BB before she should KNOW the house can get messy. I think Jayne is out of her depth and I do NOT think she is being bullied

[Mitchell]

Chelsea's a vicious little liar and it's plain for everyone to see.

Someone who is innocent does not resort to pouring poison in people's ears, they don't resort to mudslinging and character asassination yet Chelsea's been doing exactly that from the moment he knew Jayne was in the house. He's a misogynistic bully that's desperate to get Jayne out the house because her mere presence is enough to completely destroy his bull**** act.

Thank you!

[Ammi]

..I don't think she's being bullied but I think Chelsea would like to target her...however she'll flick off his spite with a twitch of her duster because she's showing her b*llocks to be much bigger than his in her character....

[Gusto Brunt]

Get the vile pig out

Chelsea or Jayne?:shrug:

[Mokka]

She doesn't appear to be getting much FB/Twitter support

that's because the greater public see her for what she is... when will TIBB

Sorry Jayne has made her own bed. When she went into that house she is finding fault left right and centre. I don't think Chelsea should have manipulated the other two when it came to chosing the most and least but I cant warm to Jayne; As one of the housemates said. Its the big brother house there are a lot of people now shacked up in it. She has seen BB before she should KNOW the house can get messy. I think Jayne is out of her depth and I do NOT think she is being bullied

loving your posts this series rion.... and agree 100%

I am no great Chelsea fan... but I don't have to like him to find her to be overrated and a vapid person. I can't wait till she is gone tbh

[VanessaFeltz.]

Chelsia can get his skanky ass out of here.

He is a disgusting vile super mario faced bitch

[hot2go]

..I don't think she's being bullied but I think Chelsea would like to target her...however she'll flick off his spite with a twitch of her duster because she's showing her b*llocks to be much bigger than his in her character....

Well of course they're bigger, she destroys family's lives for a living ...that takes a lot of balls

And zero integrity, decency and morals

[jaxie]

I wouldn't say she is being bullied though Chelsea definitely has a little personal vendetta going on, I think Jayne is equally guilty of bias in their little whatever the relationship is. It was Jayne after all who picked him to be the biggest horror and got him sent to the others so picking on each other is fairly tit for tat. It was a task and Chelsea was one of those choosing who was least so I think it's pretty clear she was being targeted by someone with an axe to grind, I think she could man up a bit and take it for what it was.

[Nicky91]

and i don't get it Georgina didn't bully Jayne, she just told her about how she cleans in the house as well, Georgina did clean the house before Jayne, some of the other housemates are just dirty and lazy :yuk:

[sampvt]

Chelsea is a grade A fool and pathetic with it, but his antics are sometimes extremely amusing and watchable. Jayne however is however a woman that has chosen a lifestyle that feeds off the misery of others. She not only provides this service as a bread winner, she is also a kiss and tell scammer. In both cases, she knows what she is doing and she seems to be driven by money and a ''I couldn't care less attitude'' to peoples misery.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, its all me me me and this isn't right. I think she is vile and needs to suffer longer so she flips out and walks to no interview and back to the hole she crawled out from. She is a bottom feeder and all this crap about Chelsea might have some volume to it, but who cares and if it has, she is probably saving it for the tabloids anyway. Such is her lifestyle and she does not deserve any sympathy, not in my book anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think her reaction to the game was piss poor tbh


second only to that hag natalie

[hot2go]

Slut shaming piece of trash

How is it slut shaming ? She is a slut and she's not ashamed of it.

[Nicky91]

How is it slut shaming ? She is a slut and she's not ashamed of it.

LOL :joker: :joker:

[hot2go]

The moral compass that was pointed at Marco seems to have stopped working. How very convenient and how very typical.

How strange that people were so outraged and morally offended by Marco disrupting the BB house by clowning around but not outraged and morally offended by Jayne destroying families lives by sleeping around.

[Vanessa]

How is it slut shaming ? She is a slut and she's not ashamed of it.

:laugh2:

[hot2go]

Jayne will be finished real soon anyway ...Georgina don't like her....and that's a black mark that even Cillit Bang can't remove.

[Nicky91]

Jayne will be finished real soon anyway ...Georgina don't like her....and that's a black mark that even Cillit Bang can't remove.

not only Georgina doesn't like her, more housemates are annoyed with her i think, and Georgina does clean in the house, well so Jayne is not the one cleaning lady in the house :laugh:


let's be honest okay :hee:

[Vanessa]

I like Natalie, but she's digging herself a hole she won't be able to get our of. :laugh:

[hot2go]

I like Natalie, but she's digging herself a hole she won't be able to get our of. :laugh:

I know....it's a shame...she is a good housemate ....far more interesting than Charlie..

She entered the others house with all guns blazing then over the next two weeks she proved she was much more than just a gobby cow...that tactic worked then but she should not have done the same in the main house......she's f-cked it up ...

Should be Charlie out tomorrow not Natalie

[TomC]

I'm watching the episode now, she's so lovely </3 Her DR entry is hilarious :joker:

[Kazanne]

The moral compass that was pointed at Marco seems to have stopped working. How very convenient and how very typical.

How strange that people were so outraged and morally offended by Marco disrupting the BB house by clowning around but not outraged and morally offended by Jayne destroying families lives by sleeping around.

Oh,very good point hot2go :wavey:

[Tom4784]

The moral compass that was pointed at Marco seems to have stopped working. How very convenient and how very typical.

How strange that people were so outraged and morally offended by Marco disrupting the BB house by clowning around but not outraged and morally offended by Jayne destroying families lives by sleeping around.

Key difference there.

Marco was a twat inside and outside of the house.

All of Jayne's haters seem more obsessed with what she does for a living then what she's providing in the house.

[hot2go]

not only Georgina doesn't like her, more housemates are annoyed with her i think, and Georgina does clean in the house, well so Jayne is not the one cleaning lady in the house :laugh:


let's be honest okay :hee:

Georginas not the only one who doesn't like Jayne but she's the only one who's disapproval comes with a guarantee ....
If Georgina don't like a housemate they instantly become a target.

We've seen it before with Marco and with Andy.

Georgina, Lateysha and Sam work together as a triple threat.....trust me, Jayne is toast

[kirklancaster]

Let's all have a good old sing-along:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNi9PpT9RLziexedJ-2AEhKBt2pkyo3k9OIKCJ5WvCkFmkzD_R6w

CALUMNY JAYNE

She just blew in from the Kinky City
She's old and knackered and ain't so pretty,
But I'll tell ya what she has got -
An that is guile.

She is putting on an act,
And that's a plain and simple fact.
Just listen to Chelsea -
He ought to know.

She tried to snare that wealthy fella
But he rejected the 'Kiss And Teller'
And good old Chelsea -
Told her where to go.

Jaynee's life in the kinky city
was sordid, base, and worthy of pity
'Cos she slept with rich guys -
Yes siree.

Shacked up with guys for loot and glory
Then sold the tabloids her dirty story
Not just one time -
But all THREE.

She says all those 'kiss and tell' fees
Went to several charities,
But I ain't buying that -
No siree.

Now she claims to be a 'Private Eye'
Willing to trap your cheating guy
But ain't that too rich -
From a cheating bitch?

She's done more than one Private Sexual Show'
And made Porno Pics in explicit pose.
And if you want proof hun -
Just look in 'The Sun'.

She has Rich fools eyes a popping
All 'knickers off and trousers dropping'
But she don't turn me on -
No WAY siree.

And I ain't taken in by a well known slaggy
Now doing an act as 'Kim and Aggie'
All you might be -
But hell no, not me.

It's one thing a girl being clean and fussy
But another when that girl's a two bit hussy
Who should worry about 'How Clean Is Her Pussy' -
Yes siree.

[hot2go]

Key difference there.

Marco was a twat inside and outside of the house.

All of Jayne's haters seem more obsessed with what she does for a living then what she's providing in the house.

What Jayne does for a living she actually brought into the house....it's her home wrecking skills she's used in the house that I'm referring to....

She could have used BB to change people's perception of her as being a media wh-re who destroys families for money but instead she reinforced that image by trying to do it again while in the house....she's just a silly bitch with limited intelligence.

I hope Chelsea squashes her like a cockroach.

[hot2go]

Let's all have a good old sing-along:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNi9PpT9RLziexedJ-2AEhKBt2pkyo3k9OIKCJ5WvCkFmkzD_R6w

CALUMNY JAYNE

She just blew in from the Kinky City
She's old and knackered and ain't so pretty,
But I'll tell ya what she has got -
An that is guile.

She is putting on an act,
And that's a plain and simple fact.
Just listen to Chelsea -
He ought to know.

She tried to snare that wealthy fella
But he rejected the 'Kiss And Teller'
And good old Chelsea -
Told her where to go.

Jaynee's life in the kinky city
was sordid, base, and worthy of pity
'Cos she slept with rich guys -
Yes siree.

Shacked up with guys for loot and glory
Then sold the tabloids her dirty story
Not just one time -
But all THREE.

She says all those 'kiss and tell' fees
Went to several charities,
But I ain't buying that -
No siree.

Now she claims to be a 'Private Eye'
Willing to trap your cheating guy
But ain't that too rich -
From a cheating bitch?

She's done more than one Private Sexual Show'
And made Porno Pics in explicit pose.
And if you want proof hun -
Just look in 'The Sun'.

She has Rich fools eyes a popping
All 'knickers off and trousers dropping'
But she don't turn me on -
No WAY siree.

And I ain't taken in by a well known slaggy
Now doing an act as 'Kim and Aggie'
All you might be -
But hell no, not me.

It's one thing a girl being clean and fussy
But another when that girl's a two bit hussy
Who should worry about 'How Clean Is Her Pussy' -
Yes siree.




:joker::joker::joker::joker:

This is a work of art. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Nicky91]

Georginas not the only one who doesn't like Jayne but she's the only one who's disapproval comes with a guarantee ....
If Georgina don't like a housemate they instantly become a target.

We've seen it before with Marco and with Andy.

Georgina, Lateysha and Sam work together as a triple threat.....trust me, Jayne is toast

well i just like the friendship between Lateysha and Georgina, and Sam is okay, i've been warming to him, a few days now :)

[rusticgal]

Jayne isn't being bullied.

Chelsea can't stand her and is trying to turn others against her...but apart from Natalie I haven't seen anyone else be nasty to her.
Let's get real...Jaynes an odd cookie. Seems to be a bit of a gold digger and a pretty demanding sort of person. I don't think she will have any problems holding her own.

[Tom4784]

What Jayne does for a living she actually brought into the house....it's her home wrecking skills she's used in the house that I'm referring to....

She could have used BB to change people's perception of her as being a media wh-re who destroys families for money but instead she reinforced that image by trying to do it again while in the house....she's just a silly bitch with limited intelligence.

I hope Chelsea squashes her like a cockroach.

You've not said anything that contradicts what I've said. You hate her for her job on the outside not because of what she's brings to the house.

Also, yaaay, slut shaming!

[Nicky91]

Jayne isn't being bullied.

Chelsea can't stand her and is trying to turn others against her...but apart from Natalie I haven't seen anyone else be nasty to her.
Let's get real...Jaynes an odd cookie. Seems to be a bit of a gold digger and a pretty demanding sort of person. I don't think she will have any problems holding her own.

and i also don't she's being bullied, but i do think Georgina, Lateysha and Sam just found out who she is, and Chelsea already knows a lot about her :)

[sampvt]

Jayne is now getting her own medicine back and it not sitting well with her so she is doing what all prats do when they are confronted, she is playing the sympathy card. She needs throwing over the wall and stripped of her female status as she is a disgrace to the human race.

[Nicky91]

Jayne is now getting her own medicine back and it not sitting well with her so she is doing what all prats do when they are confronted, she is playing the sympathy card. She needs throwing over the wall and stripped of her female status as she is a disgrace to the human race.

i can definitely understand Chelsea for not liking her :laugh:

[hot2go]

well i just like the friendship between Lateysha and Georgina, and Sam is okay, i've been warming to him, a few days now :)

Oh no mate, don't fall for his games....he is evil and he must be stopped :laugh:

I tell ya something, if Georgina ever gets boo'd he will disappear from her side faster than a bullet from a gun.

[hot2go]

You've not said anything that contradicts what I've said. You hate her for her job on the outside not because of what she's brings to the house.

Also, yaaay, slut shaming!

Oh I really can't be arsed to repeat myself....if you haven't read what I very clearly said then don't waste my time please

[Nicky91]

Oh no mate, don't fall for his games....he is evil and he must be stopped :laugh:

I tell ya something, if Georgina ever gets boo'd he will disappear from her side faster than a bullet from a gun.

okay i don't really trust Sam 100%, but at the moment he's fine :)



anyway if he does that, i think he will get the group against him

[Babayaro.]

Not the B word :idc:

[Tom4784]

Oh I really can't be arsed to repeat myself....if you haven't read what I very clearly said then don't waste my time please

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

[Nicky91]

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

i can't blame Chelsea for trying to do that, i think he really doesn't like Jayne :)



after all it's a game :hee:

[Garfie]

Let's all have a good old sing-along:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNi9PpT9RLziexedJ-2AEhKBt2pkyo3k9OIKCJ5WvCkFmkzD_R6w

CALUMNY JAYNE

She just blew in from the Kinky City
She's old and knackered and ain't so pretty,
But I'll tell ya what she has got -
An that is guile.

She is putting on an act,
And that's a plain and simple fact.
Just listen to Chelsea -
He ought to know.

She tried to snare that wealthy fella
But he rejected the 'Kiss And Teller'
And good old Chelsea -
Told her where to go.

Jaynee's life in the kinky city
was sordid, base, and worthy of pity
'Cos she slept with rich guys -
Yes siree.

Shacked up with guys for loot and glory
Then sold the tabloids her dirty story
Not just one time -
But all THREE.

She says all those 'kiss and tell' fees
Went to several charities,
But I ain't buying that -
No siree.

Now she claims to be a 'Private Eye'
Willing to trap your cheating guy
But ain't that too rich -
From a cheating bitch?

She's done more than one Private Sexual Show'
And made Porno Pics in explicit pose.
And if you want proof hun -
Just look in 'The Sun'.

She has Rich fools eyes a popping
All 'knickers off and trousers dropping'
But she don't turn me on -
No WAY siree.

And I ain't taken in by a well known slaggy
Now doing an act as 'Kim and Aggie'
All you might be -
But hell no, not me.

It's one thing a girl being clean and fussy
But another when that girl's a two bit hussy
Who should worry about 'How Clean Is Her Pussy' -
Yes siree.




:clap1::laugh2:

Excellent! And just so funny!

[Nicky91]

:clap1::laugh2:

Excellent! And just so funny!

Kirk is such a nice member and a good friend of me, but i also find his song funny :)

[dyfed]

Chelsea's a vicious little liar and it's plain for everyone to see.

Someone who is innocent does not resort to pouring poison in people's ears, they don't resort to mudslinging and character asassination yet Chelsea's been doing exactly that from the moment he knew Jayne was in the house. He's a misogynistic bully that's desperate to get Jayne out the house because her mere presence is enough to completely destroy his bull**** act.

Well said :thumbs::thumbs:

[hot2go]

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up, your last message contradicted what I said.

Yes, I don't like her for the threatening on air to expose secrets about another male housemate to his wife and family....blackmail basically...
Until that very moment I liked her and had only judged her by her behaviour in the house...
When she brought her low life kiss and tell lifestyle into the house that's the point where it became relevant.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.


Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

[Nicky91]

i find Chelsea quite funny, just speaking in his defence, i want interesting housemates to stay in the house, and the boring ones can go, like Evelyn and Laura and hopefully Alex, i find Alex so boring :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

[Tom4784]

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up, your last message contradicted what I said.

Yes, I don't like her for the threatening on air to expose secrets about another male housemate to his wife and family....blackmail basically...
Until that very moment I liked her and had only judged her by her behaviour in the house...
When she brought her low life kiss and tell lifestyle into the house that's the point where it became relevant.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.


Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

My post contradicted nothing. In fact you're incredibly hypocritical since you keep bringing up Jayne's past but you're keeping quiet about the fact that Chelsea is a scam artist that almost drove someone to suicide.

Jayne's past kind of pales in comparison to that, don't you think?

Jayne threatened to expose Chelsea but didn't go through with it, Chelsea spilled all her secrets without a second thought in order to hurt her yet Jayne's supposedly worse? Again, it was Chelsea who brought the Kiss and Tell stuff into the house, not Jayne.

The difference between Andrew and Marco is that they were twats inside and outside of the house. Jayne's one of the nicest people in there.

People didn't need outside reasons to get rid of Marco, the fact that he strung along Laura based on lies, threatened security and generally acted like a spoilt brat was enough for people to hate him.

As for your last sentence, I'll point you back to the top of my post. You think Jayne is the devil for embracing her sexuality yet you're okay with Chelsea being a scammer that almost drove someone to suicide? You're okay with him blatantly bullying Jayne in the house?

Chelsea is a **** inside and outside of that house.

[hot2go]

Marco didn't string anyone along...he said he had a hall pass and it was true....He said he had a fiancé and it was true....Laura knew exactly where she stood ...and she loved it.

Chelsea didn't lay into Jayne until she threatened to hurt his family....he didn't even know she was in there at that time and more importantly he couldn't defend himself because it was all behind his back.

Anything he sees fit to do to her afterwards is perfectly understandable....he's a family man and a business man who works on the philosophy that if someone hits you then you hit them back twice as hard.....Jayne threw the first punch...she deserves everything she's now getting.

As for Marco, anyone who thought he shud be kicked out because they thought he was a twat have every right to think that if they didn't like him.

Problem I have, is with the hypocrites who thought Marco and Andrew shud be evicted because they offended their moral code and because of their private lives.....if those same people support Jayne then all that stuff that was preached from their moral high ground is bollox.

[kirklancaster]

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up, your last message contradicted what I said.

Yes, I don't like her for the threatening on air to expose secrets about another male housemate to his wife and family....blackmail basically...
Until that very moment I liked her and had only judged her by her behaviour in the house...
When she brought her low life kiss and tell lifestyle into the house that's the point where it became relevant.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.


Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

"Too feckin true John. That old tart only came in the bleedin' house to cause me grief... An now she's whinging about me givin her some of the old wellie back?

As I was saying to one of my china's as we woz bombing dahn the Old Kent Road in my Ferrari; 'Never start a war my old son unless you're tooled up to win it'.

'An if you piss into the wind mate, you only get your own back'. Or as my old muvver used to say - gawd rest her soul - 'A tart in a jam ain't a jam tart'

Know wot I mean John?"

[Tarryn]

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself
:worship:

[hot2go]

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

"Too feckin true John. That old tart only came in the bleedin' house to cause me grief... An now she's whinging about me givin her some of the old wellie back?

As I was saying to one of my china's as we woz bombing dahn the Old Kent Road in my Ferrari; 'Never start a war my old son unless you're tooled up to win it'.

'An if you piss into the wind mate, you only get your own back'. Or as my old muvver used to say - gawd rest her soul - 'A tart in a jam ain't a jam tart'

Know wot I mean John?"

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Love your homage to this BB Legend

[sosadbbend]

I wouldn't say she is being bullied though Chelsea definitely has a little personal vendetta going on, I think Jayne is equally guilty of bias in their little whatever the relationship is. It was Jayne after all who picked him to be the biggest horror and got him sent to the others so picking on each other is fairly tit for tat. It was a task and Chelsea was one of those choosing who was least so I think it's pretty clear she was being targeted by someone with an axe to grind, I think she could man up a bit and take it for what it was.

:clap2:

[Tom4784]

Marco didn't string anyone along...he said he had a hall pass and it was true....He said he had a fiancé and it was true....Laura knew exactly where she stood ...and she loved it.

Chelsea didn't lay into Jayne until she threatened to hurt his family....he didn't even know she was in there at that time and more importantly he couldn't defend himself because it was all behind his back.

Anything he sees fit to do to her afterwards is perfectly understandable....he's a family man and a business man who works on the philosophy that if someone hits you then you hit them back twice as hard.....Jayne threw the first punch...she deserves everything she's now getting.

As for Marco, anyone who thought he shud be kicked out because they thought he was a twat have every right to think that if they didn't like him.

Problem I have, is with the hypocrites who thought Marco and Andrew shud be evicted because they offended their moral code and because of their private lives.....if those same people support Jayne then all that stuff that was preached from their moral high ground is bollox.

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

[Nicky91]

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

okay, but everyone has got a different opinion :)

[fitz2k2]

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

100% agree.I cant wait when jayne finally exposes Chelsea for who he is as a person.I wish there was expose task.

[Garfie]

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

I agree. I actually find her character in part entertaining and at times quite kind and thoughtful- as in her support of Hughie. Yes, she can be an irritant to them, like a little fly buzzing around, but their responses to that can be quite amusing to watch. I also find her rants really funny to watch, so I'm quite liking her as a housemate.

Chelsea has definitely spent much more time referring to her life outside the house than she has, I think in an attempt to turn others against her and get her evicted- he strikes me as a man afraid of what she could actually reveal about him, and hence his desperate need to have her gone.

I actually think there's a lot more of this story to emerge than just the one-sided version we are getting from Chelsea- I would almost bet he has done something he doesn't want revealed to his current partner or to the outside world, and what we are seeing from him is panic. Remember too, that he and Jayne seemed to be largely okay with each other until Natalie starting suggesting she had made all sorts of negative comments about him, when, in fact, as viewers we'd only really seen her say what a lovely man he was.

And I'm not, for one minute, saying she is flawless and has done nothing wrong in life- just that I don't think she is as horrific as some people seem to be suggesting and that she has provided more entertainment than quite a few other housemates.

[Niamh.]

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.

Good post. I don't particularly like Jayne but Chelseas behaviour towards her has been revolting. He's a horrible, horrible man

[Garfie]

chelsea tried to pull jayne, she found out about his partner and kids that he lied about

chelsea is angry at jayne because he is secretly disgusted with himself

Being vile to jayne makes him feel better about himself

Agreed. And if he can blame her for his own actions, he feels he somehow frees himself from any responsibility. An attempt at some damage limitation maybe?

[Denver]

she deserved every last bit of it

[hot2go]

He lied about the conditions of the hall pass AND the fact that he was in an open relationship and then strung Laura along and then he dropped her like a hot sack of **** because she wanted to slow things down. You've also ignored the fact that he threatened security and was generally an unpleasant ****.

You are rationalising Chelsea's actions. Ever since he laid eyes on her he's been going out of his way to ostracise her, she hasn't gone around to the other HMs and spilled Chelsea's secrets but Chelsea has done nothing but that since he found out Chelsea was in the house. Her mere presence has completely unravelled his fake persona and he's going mad because he can't keep his ugly personality under wraps.

She has left him alone yet he keeps going after her and you think that's acceptable? It's disgusting behavior, he's been disgusting towards her because of a mistake HE made. Chelsea is responsible for his own actions, you can't blame Jayne for him being a disgusting human being.

No one here has said that Andrew and Marco should have been removed so I have no idea what you're bleating on about. also why are you taking the moral highground over Jayne's past when you're perfectly fine with the fact that Chelsea's a scammer that almost drove a teenager to suicide? Be consistent, if you're going to hate Jayne because of her past then you can't conveniently forget about Chelsea's because it makes you look hypocritical.


I'm getting bored of what you're saying cause I think it's conveniently only part factual .... And others are prob getting bored of me clogging up the thread with my responses, so this will be my last one to you.

Marco didn't lie about the conditions of his hall pass, he and his girlfriend had diff interpretations of what the pass meant....if he wasn't clear then he was not alone, no one was clear, not even the person who issued the pass.

Marco didn't string Laura along....she did that to him.......everyone was frustrated with her stopping it then going back for more...
She did it over and over again..
When she said, day one, she would def f-ck him, she new he was engaged with a hall pass.
When she had sex with him, day 4, she knew he was engaged with a hall pass.
When the terminology was later phrased in a different way to open relationship she continued to have sex games with him and continued to go back to himfrom more right up till the day he left. He never lead her any where.

He wasn't a generally unpleasant guy, he was a generally annoying guy...huge difference
Nothing unpleasant or spiteful or vindictive or two faced about him in that house at all...ever.

Empty threats on the night Andrew and Ryan entered the house were made by a few people and a few more since ...none of them have been carried out cause mostly they are heat of the moment, knee jerk reactions to feeling threatened. And very very typical of all the previous BB seasons.

Chelsea has done nothing in the house to make me dislike him. Retaliating to Jaynes blackmail attempts do not warrent a reason for me to dislike him, only a reason to agree with him. I pay no attention to anything he or any of the others did before they entered the house...I didn't with Andrew, I didn't with Marco, and I didn't with Jayne until she chose to drag her past into the house with her...I didn't go looking for it, she presented it to me....on a plate.

And finally, for you to say that no one thought Marco should have been thrown out or evicted from the house is so ridiculously untrue it dimishes everything else you've said. By the time Marco was prematurely robbed of his place in the house I can think of only 3 other people on the entire thread who wanted him to stay.

Marco has gone, he can't come back.... now I think the rules that were used against him shoukd be applied to some of the others...starting with Charlie getting the same warning Marco got for harassment .... watching Jayne experience how it feels to be a target herself ....and watching some others experience what it feels like to be isolated just for being different, like Marco and Andy have.

[Garfie]

My post contradicted nothing. In fact you're incredibly hypocritical since you keep bringing up Jayne's past but you're keeping quiet about the fact that Chelsea is a scam artist that almost drove someone to suicide.

Jayne's past kind of pales in comparison to that, don't you think?

Jayne threatened to expose Chelsea but didn't go through with it, Chelsea spilled all her secrets without a second thought in order to hurt her yet Jayne's supposedly worse? Again, it was Chelsea who brought the Kiss and Tell stuff into the house, not Jayne.

The difference between Andrew and Marco is that they were twats inside and outside of the house. Jayne's one of the nicest people in there.

People didn't need outside reasons to get rid of Marco, the fact that he strung along Laura based on lies, threatened security and generally acted like a spoilt brat was enough for people to hate him.

As for your last sentence, I'll point you back to the top of my post. You think Jayne is the devil for embracing her sexuality yet you're okay with Chelsea being a scammer that almost drove someone to suicide? You're okay with him blatantly bullying Jayne in the house?

Chelsea is a **** inside and outside of that house.

And actually Marco brought his outside behaviour into the house himself, as he talked about his fiancée, the fact that she would be upset by his actions when he originally said it was fine as he had a hall pass, which then became an open relationship which it wasn't. He lied to Laura. He chose to brag about squandering £250,000 of money he had not earned on cocaine, alcohol and prostitutes. He bragged about his shoes costing more than someone else was paid. He behaved like a drunken idiot, invading people's personal space and making them feel uncomfortable. He showed aggression in his words and his actions- in his confrontation with Ryan and his threats to the security guards. His sexual exploits were degrading and embarrassing on national tv, and showed no regard for anyone else, either inside or outside of the house. He was immature and attention seeking the whole time- all too often looking at the cameras and checking they were on him. And his own words and responses showed he accepted no responsibility for any of his behaviour.

This is all stuff that he either demonstrated or chose to talk about inside the house! And as soon as he chooses to mention it inside the house, he is allowing it to be something that viewers will talk about and judge him on.

The difference with Jayne and Chelsea is that they have an issue with each other, a personal dispute between themselves, of which they've revealed a lot less than Marco did about his exploits, and it is having minimal impact on anyone else inside the house.

[hot2go]

Marco was first to be evicted, Natalie will be second and Jayne is gonna be third....all three evictions will make a lot of people happy...they all have one thing in common, they've all been an unwelcome disruption to the other housemates and proved very unpopular with a lot of people....seems like the inevitable order of the way it was meant to be.

I'll be sorry to see Natalie go but I will be voting to get Jayne out.

[Garfie]

So you did read what I wrote then ? I'm glad you're keeping up

Hot2go, I enjoy reading so many of your posts, as you can make such interesting points and insightful observations. But, you undermine yourself in other posts, through the way you in which you make them- above in the sarcasm and belittling of another member, which is so unnecessary, and below in the aggressive and bitter tone you are using in regards to other members.

As far as judging housemates on their past or their lives outside of the house, I was always very vocal on here about my defence for Andrew and for Marco, I did not agree with the majority who were hurling abuse their way because of their private lives.

I still disagree with that concept, but with people who used those things as reasons for getting rid of Marco, and are now hypocritically not applying the same moral code of practice, that they preached, to this old slag...the gloves are off.

Now I'll drag up any old dirt on on any of em....if Marco and Andrew were hung out to dry because of their private lives then so too will slags like Jayne and Snides like Sam....watch this space

I don't want you to risk others dismissing your points as just some nasty rant.

[Garfie]

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

"Too feckin true John. That old tart only came in the bleedin' house to cause me grief... An now she's whinging about me givin her some of the old wellie back?

As I was saying to one of my china's as we woz bombing dahn the Old Kent Road in my Ferrari; 'Never start a war my old son unless you're tooled up to win it'.

'An if you piss into the wind mate, you only get your own back'. Or as my old muvver used to say - gawd rest her soul - 'A tart in a jam ain't a jam tart'

Know wot I mean John?"

Excellent! :laugh::laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I don't get some of TIBB's obsession with timid girls.

Jayne would get my respect more if she actually stood up for herself and was just like "**** you Chelsea" where as at this point I have no respect for her as she's just gonna play the victim all series and have no self respect for herself.

[Niamh.]

I don't get some of TIBB's obsession with timid girls.

Jayne would get my respect more if she actually stood up for herself and was just like "**** you Chelsea" where as at this point I have no respect for her as she's just gonna play the victim all series and have no self respect for herself.

She has no respect for herself because she didn't react a certain way to someone being vile to her? Talk about victim blaming

[hot2go]

I don't want you to risk others dismissing your points as just some nasty rant.

Thanks...I called time on the conversation for the very reason that it was getting too personal...I take issue my with words being edited into something I haven't said and it happens more than it should....but I do usually call time on the conversations...I never said I think it's OK that someone was driven to suicide, i know nothing about that story ....it offended me ....but thanks, what you said is absolutely true and I appreciate your message

[Mystic Mock]

I have read it, you said she brought her 'home wrecking' skills into the house but I don't see her climbing up anyone. Only one person has brought her past into the house and that's Chelsea in an attempt to ostracise her from the other HMs.

If you're referring to her job as a P.I then why are you saddling her with the blame for destroying families and not the actual cheating spouses? Your logic seems a little flawed.

My comment remains true, people hate her for her past outside of the house, not because of who she is or what she's brought to the house.

What has she brought to the house out of interest other than moaning and playing the victim?

[Nicky91]

What has she brought to the house out of interest other than moaning and playing the victim?

i'm also questioning that to myself :D

[Mystic Mock]

She has no respect for herself because she didn't react a certain way to someone being vile to her? Talk about victim blaming

I don't like people doing a Jale and mope around the house boring the pants off me because "someone isn't being nice to them" I don't know if it's just me but as a fully grown adult I will defend myself if someone is being a jackass to me for no reason, Jayne and any other adult should do the same.

[Lostie!]

I don't like people doing a Jale and mope around the house boring the pants off me because "someone isn't being nice to them" I don't know if it's just me but as a fully grown adult I will defend myself if someone is being a jackass to me for no reason, Jayne and any other adult should do the same.

She does defend herself though. :unsure:

[Marsh.]

as a fully grown adult

sure jan :hehe:

[Garfie]

Thanks...I called time on the conversation for the very reason that it was getting too personal...I take issue my with words being edited into something I haven't said and it happens more than it should....but I do usually call time on the conversations...I never said I think it's OK that someone was driven to suicide, i know nothing about that story ....it offended me ....but thanks, what you said is absolutely true and I appreciate your message

No probs. I'm glad you realised that this was an attempt to be supportive, from someone who has felt great respect for many of your posts, rather than feeling it was meant in a negative way.

I've read so many of your comments that I feel have been spot on in summing up a situation, and others that have made me think and reconsider my own views, and you have so much more impact in what you say when you do that. You made some fantastic posts after the one I highlighted, which were so well reasoned and well judged, that they were so much more effective in getting your views across.

I think sometimes things get heated on here, especially when people feel offended, or very strongly about a certain housemate, and that can be when it becomes personal. But to me, that is exactly the time you need to respond with an intelligent rather than an emotional argument. This is probably not your intention at all, but it just comes across sometimes as if you are telling people what to think, or as if you are presenting your views as fact, when this is something you don't have to do when you so clearly have the power to express your views so intelligently and persuasively.

I think you and I both know we will never agree over Marco, and sometimes it's just better to agree to differ. However, that doesn't mean I can't be persuaded by an intelligent and insightful argument on things- I am always open to having my eyes opened to a different way of thinking, and to adjusting or changing my opinion if the argument is presented in an effective way. You can do that, so you don't need to do any negative stuff. :thumbs:

[Tom4784]

I'm getting bored of what you're saying cause I think it's conveniently only part factual .... And others are prob getting bored of me clogging up the thread with my responses, so this will be my last one to you.

Marco didn't lie about the conditions of his hall pass, he and his girlfriend had diff interpretations of what the pass meant....if he wasn't clear then he was not alone, no one was clear, not even the person who issued the pass.

Marco didn't string Laura along....she did that to him.......everyone was frustrated with her stopping it then going back for more...
She did it over and over again..
When she said, day one, she would def f-ck him, she new he was engaged with a hall pass.
When she had sex with him, day 4, she knew he was engaged with a hall pass.
When the terminology was later phrased in a different way to open relationship she continued to have sex games with him and continued to go back to himfrom more right up till the day he left. He never lead her any where.

He wasn't a generally unpleasant guy, he was a generally annoying guy...huge difference
Nothing unpleasant or spiteful or vindictive or two faced about him in that house at all...ever.

Empty threats on the night Andrew and Ryan entered the house were made by a few people and a few more since ...none of them have been carried out cause mostly they are heat of the moment, knee jerk reactions to feeling threatened. And very very typical of all the previous BB seasons.

Chelsea has done nothing in the house to make me dislike him. Retaliating to Jaynes blackmail attempts do not warrent a reason for me to dislike him, only a reason to agree with him. I pay no attention to anything he or any of the others did before they entered the house...I didn't with Andrew, I didn't with Marco, and I didn't with Jayne until she chose to drag her past into the house with her...I didn't go looking for it, she presented it to me....on a plate.

And finally, for you to say that no one thought Marco should have been thrown out or evicted from the house is so ridiculously untrue it dimishes everything else you've said. By the time Marco was prematurely robbed of his place in the house I can think of only 3 other people on the entire thread who wanted him to stay.

Marco has gone, he can't come back.... now I think the rules that were used against him shoukd be applied to some of the others...starting with Charlie getting the same warning Marco got for harassment .... watching Jayne experience how it feels to be a target herself ....and watching some others experience what it feels like to be isolated just for being different, like Marco and Andy have.

There's a bit of a pattern here isn't there? It always seems to be the woman's fault regardless of the circumstances. Jayne's at fault for the way that Chelsea's acted, Laura apparently led Marco on, his ex is to blame for apparently not being clear about the Hall Pass (seemed clear enough to everyone else) and now you've taken issue with Charlie. Kind of worrying in all honesty.

Marco's ex told him specifically no sex, that much is clear. She said he could pursue a relationship for his gameplan but none of the physical stuff. It's not a matter of misinterpretation it's a matter of Marco only caring about Marco.

Marco was definitely unpleasant, threatening employees for no reason and acting like god's gift because of his dad isn't considered unpleasant to you? I dread to think what you opinion would be if Marco was female.

I like how you keep conveniently ignoring Chelsea's past too. You got to respond to it sometime. Also you have to drop this blackmail stuff, it's laughable, baseless and desperate. Nobody is buying that Jayne is blackmailing Chelsea, she hasn't had anything to do with him since yet you think he is justified to bully her by turning people against her and isolating her in the house. If it was the other way around you'd probably be screaming bloody murder judging by how far you are reaching to blame her for Chelsea's actions.

[kirklancaster]

And actually Marco brought his outside behaviour into the house himself, as he talked about his fiancée, the fact that she would be upset by his actions when he originally said it was fine as he had a hall pass, which then became an open relationship which it wasn't. He lied to Laura. He chose to brag about squandering £250,000 of money he had not earned on cocaine, alcohol and prostitutes. He bragged about his shoes costing more than someone else was paid. He behaved like a drunken idiot, invading people's personal space and making them feel uncomfortable. He showed aggression in his words and his actions- in his confrontation with Ryan and his threats to the security guards. His sexual exploits were degrading and embarrassing on national tv, and showed no regard for anyone else, either inside or outside of the house. He was immature and attention seeking the whole time- all too often looking at the cameras and checking they were on him. And his own words and responses showed he accepted no responsibility for any of his behaviour.

This is all stuff that he either demonstrated or chose to talk about inside the house! And as soon as he chooses to mention it inside the house, he is allowing it to be something that viewers will talk about and judge him on.

The difference with Jayne and Chelsea is that they have an issue with each other, a personal dispute between themselves, of which they've revealed a lot less than Marco did about his exploits, and it is having minimal impact on anyone else inside the house.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: What a superbly written, and truthful post.

[Mystic Mock]

She does defend herself though. :unsure:

I don't really see her defend herself like an adult as she does that silly victim voice thing to make the public feel sorry for her.

I bet in the real world where there's no cameras around she would speak like an adult and challenge Chelsea for the way that his treating her.

[Lostie!]

I don't really see her defend herself like an adult as she does that silly victim voice thing to make the public feel sorry for her.

I bet in the real world where there's no cameras around she would speak like an adult and challenge Chelsea for the way that his treating her.

Well we seem to be watching two different shows then because I've seen her always stand up for herself.

[Mystic Mock]

Well we seem to be watching two different shows then because I've seen her always stand up for herself.

That's fair enough.

I just think that I like girls that are less mousey going about it.

[Nancy.]

Well we seem to be watching two different shows then because I've seen her always stand up for herself.

I agree.

Jayne can handle Natalie - no problem. I initially thought she was going to be a boring housemate..but she's proven me wrong. I really like her, tbh.

[y.winter]

They don't deserve her presence.
They should all get evicted as a punishment.
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[BB247]

It's actually uncomfortable to watch how desperate Chelsea is to turn them all against her

I agree it's not nice.
But she should have kept her mouth shut about whatever went on with Chelsea like she made us believe, because if she kept quite Chelsea wouldn't have turned on her. She 'kiss and told' on him on national TV. I'd have started a hate campaign too.