Should Jayne have stood up and said goodbye?

[Black Dagger]

Why be false imo. They slate people for being two faced and when her actions aren't that, they still manage to slag her off, she can't win.

[Lostie!]

No. Heck, she had every right stand up and say "Good riddance you vicious bitch" or celebrate but she stayed silent and classy. The need for people to be expected to give fake goodbyes is absurd.

[GiRTh]

Of course she should have stood up. She looked petty.

[Shaun]

Her prerogative. Don't think it would've mattered either way.

[LaLaLand]

No, neither would I if I was in her position and had so much beef with Natalie.

[Pete.]

Not if she didn't want to

[letmein]

She should have given her the finger.

[Braden]

No, it's happened many times before on the show and I've never been bothered by it. I kind of get where the others are coming from, but it is ridiculous because it was obvious how much they disliked each other.

[Tarryn]

No.
If Jayne had stood up & said goodbye to Natalie the whole house would have said she was being two-faced.
Yet, Lateysha was all over Hughie when she heard the cheers from the crowd yet she hates him. That's two-faced.

[Braden]

Also, why would someone go out of their way to make the effort to say goodbye just to have it thrown back in their face.

Hughie stood up with everyone else but Natalie didn't acknowledge him.

[Adamw92]

She didn't have to say goodbye but she could have at least stood up with the group like Hughie did.

[Oaker]

There have been many housemates in the past who haven't stood up and said goodbye. People are only picking up on this because they don't like her :idc:.

[BB247]

Why be false imo. They slate people for being two faced and when her actions aren't that, they still manage to slag her off, she can't win.

I think I would have done the same thing, Natalie always started the rows and took the them to another level.
Also you never know there's a chance Natalie may have blasted her.

[Rob!]

Natalie would probably have just told her to **** off anyway though

[Cherie]

She did the right thing..Natalie would blank her anyway

[Maru]

We need a third option. She should've stood up, but only to interact with the rest of the group... she could've congratulated the others or just stood with the group... she could've even said her own piece, etc etc

Instead she sat there like a petulent child looking to grab attention. I just don't see how her feelings about Natalie have to affect the rest of the group. She is so self-involved

[Cal.]

No she did the right thing. She didn't gloat about Natalie going or make her feel bad, she just sat down whilst Natalie left which was completely her choice and the right one. And for people saying she wasn't happy for Hughie and Charlie - she ran and hugged Hughie as soon as he was saved and she smiled over at Charlie when she heard her celebrating that she had stayed.

[GiRTh]

We need a third option. She should've stood up, but only to interact with the rest of the group... she could've congratulated the others or just stood with the group... she could've even said her own piece, etc etc

Instead she sat there like a petulent child looking to grab attention. I just don't see how her feelings about Natalie have to affect the rest of the group. She is so self-involved
This. She could have stood up but said nothing and made no kind of move to acknowledge Natalie. Just sitting there is something she surely realised the whole group would notice. It made her look petty and petulant.

[Dylan95]

Nope, she would've been branded as two faced and fake if she did they didn't get along so no reason to support her

[Lostie!]

No, she should have done a Gina

:joker:

[Ashley.]

No. Heck, she had every right stand up and say "Good riddance you vicious bitch" or celebrate but she stayed silent and classy. The need for people to be expected to give fake goodbyes is absurd.

Dragging her up those stairs and chucking her out the front door herself wouldn't have gone amiss, either.

The other housemates would have spoke bad about her either way. If not for staying put, then for standing up, opening up opportunity for one last squabble which Jayne would've inevitably received the blame for (for standing up in the first place).

[Withano]

She actively chose to not be at least civil. I think most fully grown adults would have said bye and seen her off at a time like that.

[joeysteele]

No, they didn't like each other and ignorant Natalie would have only likely said she didn't want her talking to her anyway.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I mean there have been worst fallouts on bb and they showed respect in the end. Jayne is immature. She's probably similar to Gerogina when it comes to men-aside from the sleeping around thing.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

like Queen Jayne said in the dairyroom it would have been false to say goodbye

[Daffodil]

It was so refreshing to see someone behaving honestly.

[Garfie]

:No. Heck, she had every right stand up and say "Good riddance you vicious bitch" or celebrate but she stayed silent and classy. The need for people to be expected to give fake goodbyes is absurd.

:clap1:

[fitz2k2]

Here whats would happen if jayne said goodbye to natalie:
(Jayne gets up)
Jayne "bye natalie"
Natalie- "**** off you 2 face bitch"
housemates holds back natalie and jayne

[Garfie]

She actively chose to not be at least civil. I think most fully grown adults would have said bye and seen her off at a time like that.

Or maybe she actively chose to be dignified? And maybe she actively chose not to be a hypocrite? Better than actively choosing to be sly, manipulative and vicious?

She couldn't win whatever she chose to do, as those her dislike her would have chosen to criticise her either way.

[Withano]

Or maybe she actively chose to be dignified? And maybe she actively chose not to be a hypocrite? Better than actively choosing to be sly, manipulative and vicious?

She couldn't win whatever she chose to do, as those her dislike her would have chosen to criticise her either way.

It would have been difficukt to criticise somebody for acting regularly. Nobody was commenting the week before how ***** georgina was for saying bye to marco. Its common courtsey and she actively chose to go against it. Yes she should have said bye because she is an adult.

[Jordan.]

It would have been difficukt to criticise somebody for acting regularly. Nobody was commenting the week before how ***** georgina was for saying bye to marco. Its common courtsey and she actively chose to go against it. Yes she should have said bye because she is an adult.

Not even comparable, unless I missed Marco call Georgina a *****.

[Mystic Mock]

She should've said goodbye to Natalie as Natalie was getting a really nasty reaction from the crowd and didn't really need someone in the house also being nasty.

But that's from a person that's not personally involved in the feud, if I was spoken to by Natalie as Jayne was spoken to by her, then I would do the same thing that Jayne did as I'm a big grudge holder if I'm pushed hard enough.

So my head says yes she should've said goodbye, but my heart says no as I can understand where Jayne's coming from.

[Chero]

She should have stood up and said, "Now you know what the public thinks, maybe Natalie you should give me a little apology before you leave." :D

It doesn't matter what Jayne does or do. Until she gets a public vote and gets a big cheer from the crowd, she will be bullied nonstop. If she faces the public vote and gets cheers from the crowd, next day the butt kissing will commence and a new target will be found by the lynch mob. This year's crop is the biggest bunch of butt suckers ever seen in Big Brother history. The original others are the only really interesting ones of the bunch. Just saying.

[Zzz]

I think she handled it really. If I was her I would have honestly cried happy tears while laughing because common courtesy is long overdue. And Marco was just annoying and never vile like Natalie, so I just don't understand what Georginas problem is. She should leave Jayne alone.

[Garfie]

She should've said goodbye to Natalie as Natalie was getting a really nasty reaction from the crowd and didn't really need someone in the house also being nasty.

But that's from a person that's not personally involved in the feud, if I was spoken to by Natalie as Jayne was spoken to by her, then I would do the same thing that Jayne did as I'm a big grudge holder if I'm pushed hard enough.

So my head says yes she should've said goodbye, but my heart says no as I can understand where Jayne's coming from.

This is exactly it. Put yourself in the same situation as Jayne, having been horrendously targeted and insulted by Natalie the was she was, and I wonder if those criticising her might well have done the same. I wonder if some of them might even have been saying good riddance, in a much stronger way.

There is no comparison with the Georgina/Marco situation- Georgina had an issue over him calling her cake crap, whereas Jayne had an issue with Natalie calling her a *****, and carrying out a campaign to degrade and provoke her whilst turning the whole house against her. Not comparable at all.

It would have been so hypocritical to have followed the crowd. And maybe it's not even about holding a grudge but being true to herself. I respect her for having the courage to follow this course of action, knowing the house is likely to judge her negatively because of it and possibly turn on her.

[Ammi]

..maybe she could have stood up and congratulated Charlie and Hughie but then, that may have been perceived as insensitive as well so I think it really was a lose/lose situation for her to be in, in terms of criticism...one of the things that I do love and admire about her is her stance on not 'following the pack' and being true to herself, which she's being very true to...before evictions, there are nominations by housemates and nominations by 'the pack' so she knows that she has a danger of isolating herself but she's still being true to her heart...

[jaxie]

They didn't get along so why would Jayne be a hypocrite and fuss over Natalie when she left? :shrug:

[Yaki da]

Not standing up and waving a person off always seems rude to me.

But Jayne can do no wrong because she's demented and the viewers of BB obviously see themselves in her.

[Ammi]

Not standing up and waving a person off always seems rude to me.

But Jayne can do no wrong because she's demented and the viewers of BB obviously see themselves in her.

..:laugh:...well she does raise dementia awareness , so maybe demented awareness as well...

[Cherie]

Not standing up and waving a person off always seems rude to me.

But Jayne can do no wrong because she's demented and the viewers of BB obviously see themselves in her.

Yes I do :dance:

[ebandit]

....shame! jayne did not pull a 'hughie' running around cheering

....yesssss!!! shesssss g o o nn e

Mark L

[kirklancaster]

Dragging her up those stairs and chucking her out the front door herself wouldn't have gone amiss, either.

The other housemates would have spoke bad about her either way. If not for staying put, then for standing up, opening up opportunity for one last squabble which Jayne would've inevitably received the blame for (for standing up in the first place).

:clap1::clap1::clap1: We know that they are ALL fake to varying degrees and that they are all in there to try to get 'Rich and Famous', but one element of fakeness which has always turned my stomach, is the pantomime everytime someone is evicted.

Some HM's weep and wail - even when they've only known the departing HM a few days, and all the hugging and cries of 'Love You' 'Miss You' is pure bull.

If I had participated in the genuine hate-filled arguments and insults which Jayne did with Natalie, I would not have been hypocritical and stood up to wish her ''Au Revoir' and 'Bon Voyage' either - I would have shouted 'Good Riddance Cont' and 'Glad you're going'.

[Ammi]

Yes I do :dance:

...Cherie, Queen of the Demented..:laugh:...I am happy to be in your court, ma'am...

[Cherie]

...Cherie, Queen of the Demented..:laugh:...I am happy to be in your court, ma'am...

Welcome Princess Ammi :laugh:

[Beso]

maybe her hips were playing up.

[thesheriff443]

She did the right thing..Natalie would blank her anyway

I agree with this post, Natalie is a vile person.

[Gusto Brunt]

NO. Natalie is a vile specimen.

She did not deserve Jayne's attention. ;)

[thesheriff443]

Not standing up and waving a person off always seems rude to me.

But Jayne can do no wrong because she's demented and the viewers of BB obviously see themselves in her.

We'll I can see why you like Natalie with this post of yours.

[armand.kay]

She should of stood up.... And gone to the mirror to check herself out as Nat left.

[hot2go]

She would have been criticised as two faced if she had....so she's f-cked either way in that situation...she may as well choose the option that at least makes herself happy.

I don't like her but I would have done the same as she did in that situation...but I wonder if Natalie had done that to Jayne if Jaynes supporters would have agreed with her making the same decision.

[hot2go]

Is she right because it was the right thing to do ?...or is she right just because she's Jayne ?

Interesting concept that

[Clootie Dumpling]

Had she stood and accompanied Natalie to the door with the other HMs, at least she'd have shown she had some manners and could act with civility on some occasions.

Instead, she sat on the sofa, like a sulky six-year-old, pouting and making a point.

It was petty and ill-mannered, but that's how she always is, so I suppose there's some consistency there, at least.

[Lostie!]

Had she stood and accompanied Natalie to the door with the other HMs, at least she'd have shown she had some manners and could act with civility on some occasions.

Instead, she sat on the sofa, like a sulky six-year-old, pouting and making a point.

It was petty and ill-mannered, but that's how she always is, so I suppose there's some consistency there, at least.

A little bit of rewriting what actually happened there. She wasn't sulky or pouting, she was literally just sitting there. She was being perfectly civil, not being civil would have been openly celebrating Natalie's exit.

She owed Natalie nothing, so nothing is what she got.

[erinp5]

If Jayne did go to say her goodbye's to Natalie I am convinced Natalie would have ignored her .

[Lord Gavin]

She should have gone. Dirty old slag

[VanessaFeltz.]

some people are in here are just trying to make her look bad lmao.


If i was her i would cheer and say good riddance bitch

[Clootie Dumpling]

A little bit of rewriting what actually happened there. She wasn't sulky or pouting, she was literally just sitting there. She was being perfectly civil, not being civil would have been openly celebrating Natalie's exit.

She owed Natalie nothing, so nothing is what she got.

That's the impression she made on me - appreciate that yours is different.

She drew attention to herself, by doing whatever it was she did/didn't do, pulling focus away from Natalie, who should have been the centre of attention at the point of her eviction.

[Ninastar]

No. Natalie was awful to her. Would Natalie have done it? I doubt it very much

[storybrooke]

Voted no, the two obviously didn't get along and it would have fake of her to hug her and wish her well out of the house