Andy was so right..

[Vicky.]

In the diary room, saying its not about the task or anything, its people thinking 'why should they get something when I have had nothing' with a lot of them (mainly lateysha and jackson, from what I have seen...very bitter)

Its odd, as I understand that thinking too so I don't necessarily think they are wrong. But seeing it be made up to be about the house and the task and such rather than just...'they can't have anything else, they had a good night last night' was quite pathetic. I do, however, think this was the case for Jason as he has given up his dog also so clearly takes it seriously.

But I would have pushed the button for other housemates to have a good time.

As I have said over and over again, its only a bloody shopping task, they are pretty much redundant these days anyway :joker:

[Lostie!]

I didn't agree with him actually (and I've been on his side most of the time). I think any annoyance from other housemates about them seeing their boyfriends for the second night in a row is completely valid.

[Vicky.]

I'm not saying they were wrong to be thinking like that, just that he was correct in saying that thats what was underneath the decision, by at least a couple of them :p

Does seem a bit...'favouritism-y' but I really think thats down to the producers being desperate for some action after losing Marco (who was clearly cast for that) early on

[Lostie!]

I'm not saying they were wrong to be thinking like that, just that he was correct in saying that thats what was underneath the decision, by at least a couple of them :p

Does seem a bit...'favouritism-y' but I really think thats down to the producers being desperate for some action after losing Marco (who was clearly cast for that) early on

Oh yeah, I think his assessment was accurate, I just don't think he needed to be so sneery about it. It seemed (to me) like he was taking issue with the fact that they'd be annoyed when it's something I think is reasonable to be annoyed by. :laugh:

[rusticgal]

I didn't agree with him actually (and I've been on his side most of the time). I think any annoyance from other housemates about them seeing their boyfriends for the second night in a row is completely valid.

I didn't either and I'm a fan of his. I couldn't help thinking that had the shoe been on the other foot...Andy would have a different take on it because he would have been pining for Ed.
I think he let himself down there...he has been fair minded up until now and I expected him to say "it's a personal disappointment but I totally understand where they are coming from"....

[Vicky.]

I didn't either and I'm a fan of his. I couldn't help thinking that had the shoe been on the other foot...Andy would have a different take on it because he would have been pining for Ed.
I think he let himself down there...he has been fair minded up until now and I expected him to say "it's a personal disappointment but I totally understand where they are coming from"....

he did say this though..

[Jack_]

I see both sides of it. If I were one of the other housemates and I'd not seen a loved one while those three had been given two nights of it, I'd be fuming...a bit like Jackson actually although hopefully not as extreme.

But then all of them pressing the button (including for the second time) made the right decisions. I've always said in tasks like these you owe no one anything and quite frankly I wouldn't give a flying **** about winning extra food on a luxury budget, I'd tell the rest of them beforehand that if I were presented with the opportunity to see a family member I'd be pressing the button/unfreezing myself straight away. It's a complete no brainer

[Pete.]

Of course Lateysha and Jackson are bitter can you blame them? :laugh:

[Jordan.]

He'd have been the same had the roles been reversed.

[delta]

He lost his job at the BBC for a reason - he's a smug, self righteous pr!ck.

His self indulgent analysis was way off the mark, once again pontificating from his ivory tower. The hm's that made the decision for the task were actually torn, or at least 3 of them were, Jason seemed steadfast in his stance, but for good reasons.

They debated long and hard, which was noticeable by the comments of the housemates in the house and their comments " they've been ages...."

The whole frigging show is total boll0x - they are virtually acknowledging that the present crop of HM's are dire to watch. The production team appear to have thrown the towel in and are incapable of getting something out of this bunch that is worth watching. What's the answer? Bring some fresh blood in for a couple of nights, oh and the other is to axe the show weeks earlier that it should finish.

[Maru]

I need to go back and re-watch the scene. I tuned out once more because it's Andy dictating out loud what he thinks the group should do/feel/say in a situation. The world doesn't revolve around him and it's gone above and beyond.

[Vicky.]

Oh yeah, I think his assessment was accurate, I just don't think he needed to be so sneery about it. It seemed (to me) like he was taking issue with the fact that they'd be annoyed when it's something I think is reasonable to be annoyed by. :laugh:

I should maybe add assessment to the title...think people are getting the wrong idea :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

Of course people will be upset at him having two nights with his (hugely annoying) boyfriend when they haven't had a chance to see their loved ones and points quickly dwindling.

I think Jackson, Lateysha and Chelsea were justified to be annoyed at the fact 15 points had been wasted from the savings and they were hoping to see their kids. They weren't funny with Emma, Andy or Laura though which will have fumed Andy, he would have hoped he could play the victim again after one of them called him selfish.

[Adamw92]

Of course people will be upset at him having two nights with his (hugely annoying) boyfriend when they haven't had a chance to see their loved ones and points quickly dwindling.

I think Jackson, Lateysha and Chelsea were justified to be annoyed at the fact 15 points had been wasted from the savings and they were hoping to see their kids. They weren't funny with Emma, Andy or Laura though which will have fumed Andy, he would have hoped he could play the victim again after one of them called him selfish.

:clap1:

[rusticgal]

he did say this though..


Not quite...he said words to that effect but his tone swung more towards the 'jealous' nature of their argument.
He would have taken a completely different stance had he been in their situation with the thought of his boyfriend possibly not getting to visit.

[Withano]

In the diary room, saying its not about the task or anything, its people thinking 'why should they get something when I have had nothing' with a lot of them (mainly lateysha and jackson, from what I have seen...very bitter)

Its odd, as I understand that thinking too so I don't necessarily think they are wrong. But seeing it be made up to be about the house and the task and such rather than just...'they can't have anything else, they had a good night last night' was quite pathetic. I do, however, think this was the case for Jason as he has given up his dog also so clearly takes it seriously.

But I would have pushed the button for other housemates to have a good time.

As I have said over and over again, its only a bloody shopping task, they are pretty much redundant these days anyway :joker:

Definitely

[Ammi]

Oh yeah, I think his assessment was accurate, I just don't think he needed to be so sneery about it. It seemed (to me) like he was taking issue with the fact that they'd be annoyed when it's something I think is reasonable to be annoyed by. :laugh:

..yeah this..I thought that he was quite shabby when he said something along the lines of...'oh the others will be fine and cool with this because they're a great bunch of people..'...and then later in the DR with Ed, when Ed was complimenting them..?...Andy was pulling a negative face behind him, and showing that he didn't have a very high opinion of them at all...he may have been accurate in his assessment for sure because the whole task was set up to cause such resentment in their disappointment...but I think what's also accurate is that he may not have made that choice at all to spend time with Ed for the second time, had he had any respect for his fellow housemates...which I don't think he has...his choice to me was very pfffft to them, rather than 'I desperately want to spend time with Ed..'...(I think..)...

[TT350]

JeeZ. Must be hard to live with such a suspicious mind.

From what I observed people were simply trying to give others the opportunity to see their loved ones.

Andy got his cake twice. Yet still bitches about it.

I don't like the cut of his jib. He IS patronising and self righteous.

[delta]

Of course people will be upset at him having two nights with his (hugely annoying) boyfriend when they haven't had a chance to see their loved ones and points quickly dwindling.

I think Jackson, Lateysha and Chelsea were justified to be annoyed at the fact 15 points had been wasted from the savings and they were hoping to see their kids. They weren't funny with Emma, Andy or Laura though which will have fumed Andy, he would have hoped he could play the victim again after one of them called him selfish.


That wasn't what he said or intimated- he was saying the decision of the five in the garden was disingenuous and the real reasons were different to what they were actually stating. which was......

they felt that it would cause disharmony with the rest of the group and for that reason they wouldn't press the button and turn around. Yes, they felt there would be jealousy, aggro, etc so for the good of the group and a harmonious house they rejected the offer and a peaceful house was their primary concern.

[sampvt]

In respect of Letesha and Jackson, well BB are probably struggling to bring anyone of interest, I mean who wants to see the head of weightwatchers and jacksons drug dealer mate.

[ebandit]

...lateysha's face was the best........annoyed at others...'cos she

wanted it all for herself........

Mark L

[Shaun]

JeeZ. Must be hard to live with such a suspicious mind.

From what I observed people were simply trying to give others the opportunity to see their loved ones.

Andy got his cake twice. Yet still bitches about it.

I don't like the cut of his jib. He IS patronising and self righteous.

Basically.

[Ellen]

That wasn't what he said or intimated- he was saying the decision of the five in the garden was disingenuous and the real reasons were different to what they were actually stating. which was......

they felt that it would cause disharmony with the rest of the group and for that reason they wouldn't press the button and turn around. Yes, they felt there would be jealousy, aggro, etc so for the good of the group and a harmonious house they rejected the offer and a peaceful house was their primary concern.

This :thumbs:

[jet]

Y'all take Andy SO seriously. :laugh:

[jet]

I didn't either and I'm a fan of his. I couldn't help thinking that had the shoe been on the other foot...Andy would have a different take on it because he would have been pining for Ed.
I think he let himself down there...he has been fair minded up until now and I expected him to say "it's a personal disappointment but I totally understand where they are coming from"....

I admire his honesty. He had nothing to berate himself for because he didn't press the button in the first place and only did it to turn his podium around after the deed was done. He can see right through the clique and I doubt he gives a shet about them because they have been against him and treated him like a pariah ever since he exposed their duplicity and they nearly shat themselves that they weren't coming across as wonderful. Until he got first saved and are now all over him like a rash...
I'm with you Andy. F88K em'!

[chuff me dizzy]

Andy was spot on right ! only sensible one in there

[Northern Monkey]

I'd have pressed it for a full English Nevermind a family member.

[jet]

Andy was spot on right ! only sensible one in there

:thumbs: Unfortunately not liking people talking behind backs and giving the heads up to your mate about gossip are seen as horrible characteristics/actions. Principles are SO yesterday.

[chuff me dizzy]

:thumbs: Unfortunately not liking people talking behind backs and giving the heads up to your mate about gossip are seen as horrible characteristics/actions. Principles are SO yesterday.

Not in my life they are not, I agreed with Andy telling Jason,he had a right to know

[alex_front2]

He lost his job at the BBC for a reason -he's a smug, self righteous pr!ck

His self indulgent analysis was way off the mark, once again pontificating from his ivory tower. The hm's that made the decision for the task were actually torn, or at least 3 of them were, Jason seemed steadfast in his stance, but for good reasons.

They debated long and hard, which was noticeable by the comments of the housemates in the house and their comments " they've been ages...."

The whole frigging show is total boll0x - they are virtually acknowledging that the present crop of HM's are dire to watch. The production team appear to have thrown the towel in and are incapable of getting something out of this bunch that is worth watching. What's the answer? Bring some fresh blood in for a couple of nights, oh and the other is to axe the show weeks earlier that it should finish.

Agree with most of this. Even in the DR with his boyfriend Ed, Andy still pulled face of indignation and bemusement when Ed dared to praise HMs Andy doesn't like.

RE the production team know the hms can't generate drama so they have turned it into Ex on Beach.

[Vicky.]

I'd have pressed it for a full English Nevermind a family member.

Same here :D

[hot2go]

Jackson and Lateysha have every reason to be pissed off with Emma grabbing for more when they have had nothing and Andy was simply acknowledging that as being their reason....he inferred that the whole " we are a team " and " we are trying to save our food budget " is fake and he was correct.
Andy stands by his three friends in the house and is loyal to them for being there for him so he probably feels in a bad position because of Emmas decision to put herself first. He won't want to go against her.
But what he said in the diary room was accurately true, they are all only interested in getting their fare share and rightfully so, but it's def not for the reasons they're pretending them to be.
At least Jackson was honest and said it out loud which is more than anyone else has....what's a shame is that because he said Emma was selfish to push the button he feels he can't either and he's wrong.

[kirklancaster]

Of course Lateysha and Jackson are bitter can you blame them? :laugh:

No.

[jet]

Agree with most of this. Even in the DR with his boyfriend Ed, Andy still pulled face of indignation and bemusement when Ed dared to praise HMs Andy doesn't like.

RE the production team know the hms can't generate drama so they have turned it into Ex on Beach.

:shocked:

As I've said before, you all take Andy way too seriously. He has a wry sense of humour which I love and have seen quite a few times. I thought it was funny - which it almost certainly was intended to be. :joker:

[jet]

Some examples of Andy's sense of humour lest we forget: :laugh:

Andy, Georgina and Evelyn were in the DR giving their pre - eviction entry:

BB to Evelyn: "Which Hms do you get on with most"
Evelyn, who has her arm around Andy, removes it.
Andy to Evelyn: "So thats me out then"

BB to Georgina: "What was your worst moment in the house"
Andy, turning to Georgina "When you left your hoodie on the floor"?

[letmein]

Andy is socially retarded and his arrogance is unbelievable.

[hot2go]

Some examples of Andy's sense of humour lest we forget: :laugh:

Andy, Georgina and Evelyn were in the DR giving their pre - eviction entry:

BB to Evelyn: "Which Hms do you get on with most"
Evelyn, who has her arm around Andy, removes it.
Andy to Evelyn: "So thats me out then"

BB to Georgina: "What was your worst moment in the house"
Andy, turning to Georgina "When you left your hoodie on the floor"?

I get his humour completely, have done from the very start....a big part of why he has been my favourite for so long...it's not often there's a housemate who has that type of humour....would love to know which housemates get it too....hard to know because we only see 45 minutes of each day and Andys humour isn't gonna get shown too much.
I loved the dynamics between him and Marco and you didn't have to also like Marco, like I did, to find that funny. Andys expressions and retorts to Marco were brilliant.

The diary room incident above made me really laugh esp as neither of the girls even registered what he meant....just made it more funny

[sampvt]

Andy comes across as a very unloved individual with views only he can understand. he feels that by dealing out justice, it kind of makes sense of his lonely life. His views seems to stem from years of being bullied or ignored. He defo cuts a very sad figure and his Husband to be looks even more pathetic. I strongly believe they bounce of each other and are happy in their own little boxes.

[jet]

I get his humour completely, have done from the very start....a big part of why he has been my favourite for so long...it's not often there's a housemate who has that type of humour....would love to know which housemates get it too....hard to know because we only see 45 minutes of each day and Andys humour isn't gonna get shown too much.
I loved the dynamics between him and Marco and you didn't have to also like Marco, like I did, to find that funny. Andys expressions and retorts to Marco were brilliant.

The diary room incident above made me really laugh esp as neither of the girls even registered what he meant....just made it more funny

Yeah, they really didn't get it - the blank looks. :laugh:
His expressions to Marco were priceless and meant to amuse the viewers but many didn't get it and thought he was looking down on him. Bah! :laugh:

[hot2go]

Yeah, they really didn't get it - the blank looks. :laugh:
His expressions to Marco were priceless and meant to amuse the viewers but many didn't get it and thought he was looking down on him. Bah! :laugh:

Actually Andy was the only one who tried to help Marco and explain how he may look to the outside...he tried to help him and showed him some kindness not just laugh at him or attack him....but, again, people saw it as patronising him and they couldn't have been more wrong.....Andy didn't use Marco as an easy nomination like the rest...Andys noms were totally left field compared to the others at the time...another reason I like him, he knows his own mind and doesn't follow the crowd.

[Amy Jade]

...lateysha's face was the best........annoyed at others...'cos she

wanted it all for herself........

Mark L

Or just to see her baby...the selfish bitch!

[jet]

Actually Andy was the only one who tried to help Marco and explain how he may look to the outside...he tried to help him and showed him some kindness not just laugh at him or attack him....but, again, people saw it as patronising him and they couldn't have been more wrong.....Andy didn't use Marco as an easy nomination like the rest...Andys noms were totally left field compared to the others at the time...another reason I like him, he knows his own mind and doesn't follow the crowd.

I agree with every word of that...and the bold part is a major reason why I like Andy too. He's a stand - out HM in so many ways.

[jet]

Or just to see her baby...the selfish bitch!

It was obvious that whoever and whatever BB had lined up for them all they were going to get a chance at anyway. They weren't going to leave anyone out.
I'm delighted for Laytesha and I hope they show her little one tonight.

[dyfed]

I can see both sides,but it just shows hm are on the whole are very selfish and only think of themselves,all the talk about being a team gets thrown out the window when it's something they want.