Andy can't take a joke

[azi]

Newly-engaged Andy West sparked an argument in the Big Brother 2016 house yesterday when Hughie Maughan and Ryan Ruckledge joked that they’d decided to get married.

Earlier this week, Andy’s long-term boyfriend Ed visited the house as part of the loyalty shopping task, and got down on one knee to propose.

And yesterday Hughie and Ryan got in on the action, deciding to prank the rest of the housemates by pretending the former had popped the question. “This sounds really bizarre, but he’s actually proposed to me!” claimed Ryan.

Their news was met with a dubious reaction, with Andy saying: “If they are being serious then good luck to them! It’s a very serious commitment.”

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However, moments later the ex-BBC journalist became angry. Venting to Jackson in the bedroom, he muttered: “Anyone can get engaged at anytime they want to, that’s important.

“But when I think about the people who have fought for generations to do what they’ve just done… you have to mean it, be sincere. You don’t just say it! Sorry… I swear if they are taking the *******ing p*** I will lose my temper!”

Ryan and Hughie were shocked, and Hughie argued with Andy over his comparison of their prank to the campaign for same-sex marriage, which was legalised in England, Wales and Scotland in 2014.

“My point of view… people say it’s a joke, but I’m saying if it’s a joke it’s sick,” Andy commented. “You should be ashamed of yourself.”


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This enraged Hughie, who accused him of trying to “twist this” and asked: “How is this sick?”

An upset Andy went to the Diary Room. “I’ve let this get to me. It does really matter,” he said. “My ring represents all of the people who’ve wanted to wear this ring before, and all of the people who want to wear it now, and they weren’t or not allowed, and that’s why two boys playing a prank matters.”

Afterwards Andy went to clear the air with Hughie, acknowledging that while he was offended, calling the prank “sick” was “too strong”.

“Me and Ryan would never joke about a huge thing like that, that we are a part of,” Hughie replied. “We had a joke and I’m sorry you’re upset about it.”



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He probably got upset because he thought they stole his thunder :hehe:

[Jake.]

took it a tad too seriously but so soon after he got engaged he no doubt thought they were mocking him

[Shaun]

Who appointed this miserable tosser as Spokesperson For All Gays? Piss off you sanctimonious arse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is a prick

[storybrooke]

He took it too far and completely overreacted.

[Drew.]

This has been building up. They've been driving him nuts for 3-4 weeks 24 hours a day. From them bitching about him to now taking the piss out of him, he has every right to feel angry about what they do and he speaks a lot of sense, they are so immature. Too many people already dislike him and won't for a minute try and understand where hes coming from

[Withano]

This isnt a joke though. This is the most serious thing to ever happen in the history of the entire world ever ever.

[Amy Jade]

He's an arrogant prick.

[Marc]

I think he'll live

[hot2go]

I agree with him .....they're silly little twats picking on him again...they wouldn't dare take the piss out of Laura and the walking crotch...or mock Jackson and Lateysha over their love for their kids

[GiRTh]

Its something that is important to him so can kind of see where he's coming from but he is a sanctimonious prick.

[andybigbro]

It's not "sick"

He's just pissed off cause he's just been proposed to and the highlight it taken off him.

Get him out.

[south12345]

sanctimonious prick....im sorry but this guy is so OTT. How cliché of him to propose marriage on a reality show...
****in cant stand the guy..

Knob.

Oh is Alex still in there.?

[smudgie]

Who appointed this miserable tosser as Spokesperson For All Gays? Piss off you sanctimonious arse.

Shaun, I seriously think I have just fallen in love with you.:worship:

[Cherie]

Andy :umm2: too much now

[Maru]

The worst part is, it's a big deal because it's a big deal to Andy. If it were anyone elses feelings and they were offended by something he said, he would be like "Well I disagree" and that's that...

He's just a prick.

[Babayaro.]

I can understand that he'd be annoyed with them for kind of taking the piss out of his engagement, but for all the 'gay people have suffered for this' was a little ott. It was just a silly joke that Hughie and Ryan should have thought about beforehand.

[RhysJones]

Can't believe that he's trying to play the homophobic and the gay rights cards on Hughie and Ryan who are both a member of the LGBT community, what a prick

[dyfed]

[QUOTE=Babayaro.;8790765]I can understand that he'd be annoyed with them for kind of taking the piss out of his engagement, but for all the 'gay people have suffered for this' was a little ott. It was just a silly joke that Hughie and Ryan should have thought about beforehand

[hot2go]

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

[hot2go]

And now the highly unintelligent audience on BOTS will agree with them

[dyfed]

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

Good post
so agree with you,both of them should have known better

[armand.kay]

He's a twat.

[Shaun]

Andy has completely embarrassed himself and the mask has fallen off completely. That he'd reference stoning in Saudi Arabia instead of just own up to feeling made fun of for his engagement is the most hysterical overreaction of all big brother series.

[hot2go]

And of course Rylan finds sham gay relationships funny, he's in one.

[Ashley.]

This isnt a joke though. This is the most serious thing to ever happen in the history of the entire world ever ever.

Well yeah it was pretty serious...

[Greg!]

He's an absolute embarrassment. Such a sanctimonious arsehole I can't stand him

[Vicky.]

This article made it sound so serious but nothing prepared me for the hilarity of actually seeing this meltdown in action :joker:

This for me has to be at least a contender for best BB meltdown ever. Screw your fake Nikki rants and such...this beats that rubbish hands down :D

[rusticgal]

took it a tad too seriously but so soon after he got engaged he no doubt thought they were mocking him


I agree.... I think this is what really got to him. He thought they were taking the piss out of his engagement (and deep down I believe they were).
I can understand him feeling uncomfortable with it because it meant so much between him and Ed.... So instead of maybe staying quiet he deflected the situation by making it about the moral issue which then made it all seem very 'deep' and a little over the top.
I think he really felt his engagement was being ridiculed...

[Vicky.]

I agree.... I think this is what really got to him. He thought they were taking the piss out of his engagement (and deep down I believe they were).
I can understand him feeling uncomfortable with it because it meant so much between him and Ed.... So instead of maybe staying quiet he deflected the situation by making it about the moral issue which then made it all seem very 'deep' and a little over the top.
I think he really felt his engagement was being ridiculed...

Yeah I think this too tbh. But he couldn't actually say this (as one can't be honest, one must make things out to be 100x worse than they are) and I expect the rubbish he was coming out with instead made sense to him at the time :D

[Northern Monkey]

I think had they actually got engaged it would've been 10 times worse for him but he would've had to hide it and pretend to be pleased for them.I think he got so upset because for a moment he actually believed them and it would have taken all the positive attention away from him.

[Marsh.]

My ring represents all of the people who’ve wanted to wear this ring before

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[Jan S]

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.absochuffinlutely

always been the way - just look at the fight commoners and then women had to be enfranchised and how now so many people don't bother voting as they can't be arsed!

people arguing over a subject with correlations they didn't even see *sighs*

And now the highly unintelligent audience on BOTS will agree with themyup

And of course Rylan finds sham gay relationships funny, he's in one.
why do you think that? genuine question since i only know they are married, not their circumstances.

[camertone]

ryan and hughie will do anything to focus cameras on them.. they make gays look bad..

[hot2go]

why do you think that? genuine question since i only know they are married, not their circumstances.


Rylans husband was in a long term relationship while in the BB house and was very vocal of the love he felt for the guy....Rylans husband had been on various reality shows prior to BB and had a hunger to be famous...Rylans husband came across on the show as being sly and self serving and Disingenouos ...Rylans husbands partner said that when they were together he had repeatedly said he couldn't stand Rylan Clark..
Then he left the BB house, immediately dumped his partner and got together with Rylan.....now Rylans used his influence and cheek to get his husband on daytime TV.....result, back of the net.....but I think Rylan has scored a home goal because as soon as his husband becomes famous in his own right he will be gone faster then sh-t off a shovel.

[Jan S]

Rylans husband was in a long term relationship while in the BB house and was very vocal of the love he felt for the guy....Rylans husband had been on various reality shows prior to BB and had a hunger to be famous...Rylans husband came across on the show as being sly and self serving and Disingenouos ...Rylans husbands partner said that when they were together he had repeatedly said he couldn't stand Rylan Clark..
Then he left the BB house, immediately dumped his partner and got together with Rylan.....now Rylans used his influence and cheek to get his husband on daytime TV.....result, back of the net.....but I think Rylan has scored a home goal because as soon as his husband becomes famous in his own right he will be gone faster then sh-t off a shovel.

aw, that's a shame. he sounds awful :mad:

a broken-hearted rylan won't be pretty.

[jet]

I agree.... I think this is what really got to him. He thought they were taking the piss out of his engagement (and deep down I believe they were).
I can understand him feeling uncomfortable with it because it meant so much between him and Ed.... So instead of maybe staying quiet he deflected the situation by making it about the moral issue which then made it all seem very 'deep' and a little over the top.
I think he really felt his engagement was being ridiculed...

I agree that he felt his engagement was being mocked, but I think there was more to it than that. I think the mockery brought out deeper issues within him, like those that cost him his job over the stance he took about Tyson Fury.

As I posted in another thread regarding Ed's interview on BOTS:

ED also made the point very strongly in his own words that
"you don't ever mess with Andy when it comes to gay rights"

He referred to the Tyson Fury thing and said he told Andy to let it go, but he wouldn't and he left the job he'd had for 8 years and loved because of it.

He said he and Andy were complete opposites and that is why they work so well together.

So I think it was a combination of feeling they were mocking him and his obviously passionate feelings about gay rights - and also because he has had a hard time in there...and Jason understood more about what was happening and we never got to hear. Jason is a true friend to him, bless him.
I felt for Andy tonight. I like him so much and feel bad for him.

[Shaun]

So basically you agree that Andy is projecting his own hang-ups onto everyone else and is totally unwilling to hear people out. Good.

[jet]

So basically you agree that Andy is projecting his own hang-ups onto everyone else and is totally unwilling to hear people out. Good.

No, not good. Nobody likes to be mocked and a passion for gay rights is no 'hang - up'. I applaud him for not being willing to compromise on his beliefs. 100%!

[arista]

azi

He Can.

But No one can take the piss of gays
in Front of him.

He is Like a Gay Political Copper

Should he go on a TV debate show, Later on outside the house - NO
will he - YES


Sign Of the Times

[Ammi]

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

..do you honestly feel that Hughie would have no sense of 'how hard it was to be gay' with his environment of being in a travelling community where I would think that it was most definitely not be cool to be gay...I would say that he probably has a much greater sense of 'suppression' through experience than Andy has... but he just doesn't carry it around like a mantle because that's not his game...(and also Andy is of the same generation..)...

[jennyjuniper]

took it a tad too seriously but so soon after he got engaged he no doubt thought they were mocking him

As they were.:fist:

[arista]

".(and also Andy is of the same generation..)..."


No thats wrong Ammi
Andy has worked hard at the BBC and Got sacked

Hughie is a mummys boy
not sure if he has had proper work?>


FACTS

[jennyjuniper]

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

I agree. I feel a bit the same way when some women say they can't be bothered to vote. When I think what women had to go through to get the vote in the first place.

[Ammi]

..so it changes the generation that you're born into then..if you've had a job..interesting FACTS, Arista...

[arista]

..so it changes the generation that you're born into then..if you've had a job..interesting FACTS, Arista...


As a Wise Teacher
you would know this.

[Ammi]

...ooo, I got a shower in that time it took to reply, how speedy am I this morning Arista...anyways, I'm no more or no less 'wise' then anyone else, Arista...and I think there lies the thing with Andy...he has been fortunate enough to have had privileges and advantages in his education that many others have not had and I would say that Hughie hasn't had for sure...but rather than be 'wise' with those in his consideration of others and their environments, he uses them to judge people...a very much 'not wise' person, I would say...

[Ammi]

..I'm going to dry me 'air now Arista, just so that you know...

[Ammi]

...cos that's the wise thing to do with wet and towel wrapped hair...

[arista]

...ooo, I got a shower in that time it took to reply, how speedy am I this morning Arista...anyways, I'm no more or no less 'wise' then anyone else, Arista...and I think there lies the thing with Andy...he has been fortunate enough to have had privileges and advantages in his education that many others have not had and I would say that Hughie hasn't had for sure...but rather than be 'wise' with those in his consideration of others and their environments, he uses them to judge people...a very much 'not wise' person, I would say...


No you are a Level Up
a Teacher
Stop Putting in Yourself Down
Madame

[arista]

...cos that's the wise thing to do with wet and towel wrapped hair...


Yes Wet
and Wrapped.

You must get Ready for work.

You are a Higher Level
on tibb

[rionablue]

I am hoping that the general public don't save his sorry arse again. PLEASE GET HIM OUT

[sosadbbend]

It is only a joke when 'everyone' laughs