I actually can't believe Andy pulled those cards

[*mazedsalv**]

Went from a joke to weddings...to slavery, stoning to death and people being thrown off buildings?

Pathetic.

It was probably the most far fetched I have ever seen a discussion actually stretch to. It's like me jokingly punching my black mate and then bring told by someone else 'HOW DARE YOU INFLICT SLAVERY EMOTIONS AS A JOKE'.

I think it was a ploy for Andy to come across as the best PC gay person ever.

Ed even said on BOTS he would have found it funny and that he over exaggerated.

I still can't believe it.

[StephenPullen]

The whole situation was absolutely asinine. I mean, wow. Andy is the biggest POS in the house.

[Vicky.]

It was just utterly bizarre

It reminded me (slightly) of BB5..there was a food fight and someone started bleating on about starving kids in Africa.

Except with this, there was literally NO relevance at all between what Andy was saying and what had happened. I guess there is a bit of a connection between wasting food and starving kids..

But again, only on BB. THIS is why I love the show :D

[Headie]

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it :shrug:

[rusticgal]

I think he saw it as a put down of his engagement to Ed....he thought it was belittling his special moment... he thought the joke was on him because he really didn't believe they were serious. He didn't want to make it about him so he sold the bigger picture...which kind of went a bit too deep and it all got a bit out of hand...

[Amy Jade]

It was seriously quite disturbing how he tried every which way to make himself the victim yet again, he humiliated himself tonight

I also thought Hughie made a fantastic point, why wasnt Andy outraged when Sam and Emma did the same as him and Ryan? seems to me he was just looking for an excuse to make himself look good but it backfired and his tears were frustration and desperation to claw back sympathy from the public.

[*mazedsalv**]

It was just utterly bizarre

It reminded me (slightly) of BB5..there was a food fight and someone started bleating on about starving kids in Africa.

Except with this, there was literally NO relevance at all between what Andy was saying and what had happened. I guess there is a bit of a connection between wasting food and starving kids..

But again, only on BB. THIS is why I love the show :D

Agree with both. LOL at BB5, I loved that.

First of all, even forgetting about the fact Andy was silly and made a stupid comparison, but his comparison doesn't even ring true in this country and never has.

So not just was it pathetic, but it made no sense whatsoever to automatically connect a law from a different country into a conversation in the UK about a joke.

I just don't get the "trail", I have no idea how he automatically got to that point of comparison. It's so far fetched. It's like me saying I am good with kids and someone telling me i should be hung because I'm a peadophile.

That's how bizzare it was.

[hot2go]

Hughie and Ryan and immature little idiots and I can't wait to see the back of them

[Vicky.]

I think he saw it as a put down of his engagement to Ed....he thought it was belittling his special moment... he thought the joke was on him because he really didn't believe they were serious. He didn't want to make it about him so he sold the bigger picture...which kind of went a bit too deep and it all got a bit out of hand...

Indeed. In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole fake engagement was a laugh at Andys expense...

However, the breakdown and delivery was amazing, ridiculous and so odd, whatever the reason for it.

[*mazedsalv**]

It was seriously quite disturbing how he tried every which way to make himself the victim yet again, he humiliated himself tonight

I also thought Hughie made a fantastic point, why wasnt Andy outraged when Sam and Emma did the same as him and Ryan? seems to me he was just looking for an excuse to make himself look good but it backfired and his tears were frustration and desperation to claw back sympathy from the public.

And is Andy was to get annoyed at that stuff, why wasn't he offended by Sam's "bum boys" comment towards Ryan and Hughie.

[Vicky.]

Agree with both. LOL at BB5, I loved that.

First of all, even forgetting about the fact Andy was silly and made a stupid comparison, but his comparison doesn't even ring true in this country and never has.

So not just was it pathetic, but it made no sense whatsoever to automatically connect a law from a different country into a conversation in the UK about a joke.

I just don't get the "trail", I have no idea how he automatically got to that point of comparison. It's so far fetched. It's like me saying I am good with kids and someone telling me i should be hung because I'm a peadophile.

That's how bizzare it was.

Yeah I can't really connect the dots either. I expect it made sense somehow in his head at the time though or else there would be NO reason at all for any of the theatrics :laugh: I just cannot make it make sense at all no matter which way I try to look at it

A really really weird situation/show/reaction.

[Klingonz]

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it :shrug:

BBUSA18: Da'Vonne
CBB17: Tiffany Pollard

:shrug:

[Jordan.]

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it :shrug:

Like 90% of people disagreed with him though?

[Vicky.]

Like 90% of people disagreed with him though?

I don't think I have seen even one person say it was justified...

[jet]

Went from a joke to weddings...to slavery, stoning to death and people being thrown off buildings?

Pathetic.

It was probably the most far fetched I have ever seen a discussion actually stretch to. It's like me jokingly punching my black mate and then bring told by someone else 'HOW DARE YOU INFLICT SLAVERY EMOTIONS AS A JOKE'.

I think it was a ploy for Andy to come across as the best PC gay person ever.

Ed even said on BOTS he would have found it funny and that he over exaggerated.

I still can't believe it.

He also made the point very strongly in his own words that
"you don't ever mess with Andy when it comes to gay rights"

He referred to the Tyson Fury thing and said he told Andy to let it go, but he wouldn't and he left the job he'd had for 8 years and loved because of it.

He said he and Andy were complete opposites and that is why they work so well together.

Imo it is people who are that passionate about gay rights who have achieved hard earned gay rights.

[andybigbro]

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it :shrug:

Everybody has basically said Andy was wrong :conf2:

[Headie]

Everybody has basically said Andy was wrong :conf2:

Nope I've seen a fair few posts on here saying "Hughie & Ryan were clearly baiting Andy and he had every right to be annoyed" etc. I just don't see how.

[Headie]

Like 90% of people disagreed with him though?

I don't think I have seen even one person say it was justified...

I'm don't wanna link specific posts because it'll cause arguments for sure :laugh: But you can see at least 3 or 4 people in the episode discussion thread, the "who was in the right" thread, and all the Andy threads etc who are saying his reaction was a result of "baiting", suggesting it made his reaction more ok.

[Headie]

BBUSA18: Da'Vonne
CBB17: Tiffany Pollard

:shrug:

And the point you're making is...?

[Klingonz]

And the point you're making is...?

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays :shrug:

[Drew.]

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays :shrug:

I don't think hes saying that lol

[Klingonz]

I don't think hes saying that lol

I ment that lotsa american blacks does hate gays. I did not wanna bring it out like that, but it is true.

[Jordan.]

I'm don't wanna link specific posts because it'll cause arguments for sure :laugh: But you can see at least 3 or 4 people in the episode discussion thread, the "who was in the right" thread, and all the Andy threads etc who are saying his reaction was a result of "baiting", suggesting it made his reaction more ok.

Your post made it seem like everyone was dismissive of his comments when it's quite the opposite. I'm guessing anyone defending him are fans or just dislike Ryan/Hughie, I don't think it's really an issue.

[Klingonz]

Meaning that Hayden did bring the black vs gay thing out.

[Amy Jade]

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays :shrug:

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[Jordan.]

I ment that lotsa american blacks does hate gays. I did not wanna bring it out like that, but it is true.

Stop playing the gay card Andy.

[Klingonz]

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quote :

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

[Klingonz]

Stop playing the gay card Andy.

It was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me.

[rionablue]

He didn't do himself any favours. When he gets out of there I hope he finds a sense of humour because he clearly doesn't have it. I have been finding him preachy and dull and if he is saved again Friday (because he will DEFINITELY be up) he will get even more arrogant. It was a prank it was funny HE BLOODY WELL WASNT

[Amy Jade]

How does being a fan of Tiffany Pollard indicate somebody has anger issues towards gays?

[Klingonz]

How does being a fan of Tiffany Pollard indicate somebody has anger issues towards gays?

Once again, it was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me.

[Jordan.]

It was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me.

He was comparing two scenarios and you turned it into something it wasn't :suspect:

[Klingonz]

He was comparing two scenarios and you turned it into something it wasn't :suspect:

No. As i said, it was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me. For third time. Why did she even do that for?

[Jack_]

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*Big Brother on season

[Jordan.]

No. As i said, it was Hayden who did bring the black vs gay issue up, not me. For third time. Why did she even do that for?

you turned it into something it wasn't - 2nd time

[Klingonz]

you turned it into something it wasn't - 2nd time

No i did not. I did bring the real issue up, what he was hiding. Can you explain why Hayden did use black vs gay reference then?

[Klingonz]

Especially this part
but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified....

Sounds quite racists and narrow minded to me. So i did not turned it into something it wasn't.

[*mazedsalv**]

And to those saying "well, Andy must have not overreacted because no one defended Ryan and Hughie bar Laura", well...

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

[jet]

And to those saying "well, Andy must have not overreacted because no one defended Ryan and Hughie bar Laura", well...

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

Or maybe it's not within the bounds of possibility that people being stoned to death, thrown off buildings and many other horrors that were inflicted on gay people throughout the years actually does bring out feelings of utter disgust in him? That the fight to get from those horrors (which still exist) to today's gay marriage has been a long one that isn't to be taken lightly by two utter morons who have probably been getting on his tits for weeks with their attention seeking off and on fake showmance antics.
The man gave up a job he loved for his belief ffs. Hughie and Ryan wouldn't give up their freaking fake tan.

[*mazedsalv**]

Or maybe it's not within the bounds of possibility that people being stoned to death, thrown off buildings and many other horrors that were inflicted on gay people throughout the years actually does bring out feelings of utter disgust in him? That the fight to get from those horrors (which still exist) to today's gay marriage has been a long one that isn't to be taken lightly by two utter morons who have probably been getting on his tits for weeks with their attention seeking off and on fake showmance antics.
The man gave up a job he loved for his belief ffs. Hughie and Ryan wouldn't give up their freaking fake tan.

I never said he shouldn't be disgusted by things happening elsewhere, but there was no need to even bring up what he did at all. It had no relevance to anything whatsoever in the slightest. He was trying to be as controversial as possible to make the two of them look bad. It was A JOKE.

Whether it was a funny one or not doesn't really matter. Just like i don't go round calling people peadophiles if they say "I'm really good with children", he shouldn't be shouting the stuff he shouted. He looked like a nutcase.

I am personally very worried for him. The fact he even made a comparison is worrying, it's as if he was thinking of a situation to arise so he could unleash all this stuff to make people look bad. His thought track going immediately to that is not right.

[jet]

I never said he shouldn't be disgusted by things happening elsewhere, but there was no need to even bring up what he did at all. It had no relevance to anything whatsoever in the slightest. He was trying to be as controversial as possible to make the two of them look bad. It was A JOKE.

Whether it was a funny one or not doesn't really matter. Just like i don't go round calling people peadophiles if they say "I'm really good with children", he shouldn't be shouting the stuff he shouted. He looked like a nutcase.

I am personally very worried for him. The fact he even made a comparison is worrying, it's as if he was thinking of a situation to arise so he could unleash all this stuff to make people look bad. His thought track going immediately to that is not right.

You said he brought up those things deliberately in a clever and sneaky way so people wouldn't disagree with him. I disagree as I said in my answer to your post. Nothing more to discuss.

[arista]

Went from a joke to weddings...to slavery, stoning to death and people being thrown off buildings?

Pathetic.

It was probably the most far fetched I have ever seen a discussion actually stretch to. It's like me jokingly punching my black mate and then bring told by someone else 'HOW DARE YOU INFLICT SLAVERY EMOTIONS AS A JOKE'.

I think it was a ploy for Andy to come across as the best PC gay person ever.

Ed even said on BOTS he would have found it funny and that he over exaggerated.

I still can't believe it.


Slav
he was SACKED from BBC
for attacking Boxer Tyson Furys
attitude on Gays.


Was Sacking : Correct : YES

Did he get the BBC in Trouble : Yes


Would you employ him : No.


Will someone attack him on the street: Yes very likely


FACTS

[Maru]

What's amazing to me is how Andy can slight and rub so many people the wrong way but yet still always seems to be justified.

That is pretty much hook line and sinker the way a good troll works.

It doesn't necessarily even have to discredit anything he believes or feels. A few times is enough for me to prove the man has absolutely no shame in using anyone by upsetting whoever and using whatever to get his point(s) across. If you already agree with him of course you'll fall in line because he's good at playing the victim/I'm actually harmless game, but I imagine it doesn't feel good to be around someone like that 24/7 in the house. You'd have to feel like a target is going to be painted on your back for not catering to it and you just know he will set you up for the fall next.

Do not like him. Not one bit. Sneaky. If anyone knows a way an American can vote, I'll gladly vote him out next eviction if he's up for nomination.

[jet]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/calm-after-storm-for-bbc-reporter-andy-west-who-stood-up-to-broadcaster-over-tyson-fury-34329477.html

Andy :clap1:

[mysargasso]

And is Andy was to get annoyed at that stuff, why wasn't he offended by Sam's "bum boys" comment towards Ryan and Hughie.

And how do we know he didn't have something to say about that? They only show an hour of one day in the BB house, and there's no live feed beyond what the editors cut/paste for the viewers.

[Withano]

Slav
he was SACKED from BBC
for attacking Boxer Tyson Furys
attitude on Gays.


Was Sacking : Correct : YES

Did he get the BBC in Trouble : Yes


Would you employ him : No.


Will someone attack him on the street: Yes very likely


FACTS

Are you drunk?

He was suspended from the BBC for shaming them after they allowed a homophobic man to remain on the shortlist for 'sports personality of the year'. Andy was absolutely in the right and the BBC was hit with hard criticism for weeks both before and after Andys suspension by much of the public. Of course hes not about to attack anybody.

Better check those facts.

[mysargasso]

Or maybe it's not within the bounds of possibility that people being stoned to death, thrown off buildings and many other horrors that were inflicted on gay people throughout the years actually does bring out feelings of utter disgust in him? That the fight to get from those horrors (which still exist) to today's gay marriage has been a long one that isn't to be taken lightly by two utter morons who have probably been getting on his tits for weeks with their attention seeking off and on fake showmance antics.
The man gave up a job he loved for his belief ffs. Hughie and Ryan wouldn't give up their freaking fake tan.

Well put :thumbs: !

[arista]

Are you drunk?

He was suspended from the BBC for shaming them after they allowed a homophobic man to remain on the shortlist for 'sports personality of the year'. Andy was absolutely in the right and the BBC was hit with hard criticism for weeks both before and after Andys suspension by much of the public. Of course hes not about to attack anybody.

Better check those facts.



No Drink.

It was a suspend - Now a SACK


The BBC has rules on getting Political
Andy broke them - that's a Fact

[arista]

[In his YouTube video - since deleted - Mr West accepted that he "shouldn't have given my opinion on something that was current". But he went on to say that he "couldn't forget the little boy I was when I was nine or 10 at school and I was being bullied for being camp and being gay".]

Andy - No one wants to Employ you him now

[Crimson Dynamo]

1. It was a very poor taste joke by the boys and did seem to take the piss right out of andy, i have no idea why the 2 immature brats did it

2. andy is a prissy twat and overreacted. ISIS throw gay people off buildings and stone them - its not like it was happening in Manchester.

[*mazedsalv**]

1. It was a very poor taste joke by the boys and did seem to take the piss right out of andy, i have no idea why the 2 immature brats did it

2. andy is a prissy twat and overreacted. ISIS throw gay people off buildings and stone them - its not like it was happening in Manchester.

1. In that case, Emma and Sam should be scrutinized for having a fake wedding. How dare they? PEOPLE GET DIVORCED EVERY DAY! Stop rubbing happiness in people's faces!

One can't stop assuming that had Andy not got engaged the day before, that he wouldn't have over reacted. In fact, Andy would have laughed most likely.

His overreaction was not due to the "joke", but due to the fact no one was praising him on his engagement anymore.

[Vicky.]

This is quite honestly the first I have ever heard of a fake Sam and Emma wedding :laugh:

[Headie]

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays :shrug:

Omg I've been caught! I'm a self hating black gay, now what will I do to cover this up!!!??

[Headie]

Your post made it seem like everyone was dismissive of his comments when it's quite the opposite. I'm guessing anyone defending him are fans or just dislike Ryan/Hughie, I don't think it's really an issue.

Oh I'm sorry if it came across that way, I pretty much agree with you that it's only 10% defending him, I just meant that those 10% would probably be up in arms if a black person played the race card :laugh:

[Will.]

Just caught up on last nights.

Honestly shocked at what Andy was saying, completely OTT and very odd.

Hughie and Ryan were just playing around.

There was no need for Andy to start mentioning about people being stoned to death and stuff :umm2:

Andy was very odd.

[*mazedsalv**]

This is quite honestly the first I have ever heard of a fake Sam and Emma wedding :laugh:

It happened like 2 weeks ago when they were bored and put some sheets over themselves, walked into and around the garden and announced they were getting married :p

[jet]

It happened like 2 weeks ago when they were bored and put some sheets over themselves, walked into and around the garden and announced they were getting married :p

I didn't see this either. :huh: