Emma EJECTED after attempting to break out again

[Drew.]

http://i.imgur.com/Lq3qxau.png

[zakman440]

Emma has been removed from the Big Brother House for attempting to break out on more than one occasion. Emma was unable to live within the confines of the Big Brother House and abide by the rules and therefore forfeited her place as a housemate.

Watch what happened tonight at 9pm on Channel 5. Emma will also appear on tonight’s Big Brother’s Bit On The Side at 11pm.

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/statement-big-brother-emma-has-been-removed

I wasn't expecting that tbh.

[Mitchell]

Channel 5 have just confirmed this to me

[Mitchell]

A Channel 5 spokesperson said: “Emma has been removed from the Big Brother House for attempting to break out on more than one occasion. Emma was unable to live within the confines of the Big Brother House and abide by the rules and therefore forfeited her place as a Housemate. Watch what happened tonight at 9pm on Channel 5 and Emma will also appear on tonight’s Big Brother’s Bit On The Side at 11pm.”

[Headie]

Lol and so the C5 producers "lets look for any possible way to cull the numbers as much as possible" strategies have begun.

Chelsea should be ejected then for his break-out at the start?

[Will.]

Someone call me an ambulance.

I'm shacking.

[Greg!]

CAH I quite liked her but serves her right for continually breaking the rules.

[Lostie!]

Lol what?!

[LukeB]

Emma </3 that's not eject worthy imo

[Cal.]

Is this a ****ing joke

[LukeB]

A massive joke!!! Gemma Collins did it loads!!!!

[Lostie!]

Emma being ejected is the most random thing ever :laugh2:

Shame since I love her but she probably didn't want to be there much since seeing her boyfriend.

[Ross.]

Nooooooo what the ****

I'm not having this

[Jack_]

screaming good riddance to the overrated bore

That said, she might've been a safety net for better housemates in evictions so :worry:

[Ellen]

Its on their website.
More like she escaped because if she was up for nomination & didnt want to face the crowd!

[Headie]

Emma being ejected is the most random thing ever :laugh2:

Shame since I love her but she probably didn't want to be there much since seeing her boyfriend.

She's snatching Emily's crown as the most tame ejctee ever

[Daniel.]

Pathetic reason, will miss her

[VanessaFeltz.]

http://67.media.tumblr.com/60b0825686f53696f2997dc3881e04ea/tumblr_o8tcrllNVv1v9roxto5_250.gif

[Jan S]

damn right she should get booted. or not allowed to return. AS SHOULD BE THE SAME for ALL of the airtime-hungry twats who did it before her! break out? demand to be let out? show 'em the damned door, BB, stop pandering to these impossible child-adults

btw, not seen it yet, but i reckon emma's realised she's not about to win, can't stand the negativity in the house, and just wants to be back with her boyfriend. seems reasonable enough to me - i'd havve legged it long ago with that lot. ugh!

[Daniel.]

screaming good riddance to the overrated bore

That said, she might've been a safety net for better housemates in evictions so :worry:

How is she boring? Lmao

[Ross.]

I'm declaring today a national day of mourning, we will never forget Emma!

[Greg!]

Ive gone off her recently so me caring

[Headie]

Mess @ her probably filming BOTS in like 4 hours time

It's so weird how she's probably been out of the house for the whole night and we had no idea until now :laugh:

[Jake.]

Lmao :joker:

[arista]

Someone call me an ambulance.

I'm shacking.


She wants her lover

[TiBB Frontpage Article]

James has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.

Emma has been removed from the house.

Channel 5 released this statement:

“Emma has been removed from the Big Brother House for attempting to break out on more than one occasion. Emma was unable to live within the confines of the Big Brother House and abide by the rules and therefore forfeited.....

Excerpt of article quoted above. Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/bigbrother17-2016/news-304292/emma-removed-from-the-house.html

[Cal.]

This is pathetic. Gemma & Danniella broke out every night on CBB.

[Jack_]

How is she boring? Lmao

How is she not boring? All she does is walk around the house once a week and moan about other people's ~negative energy~ whilst ironically having a face like a slapped arse

She's had her moments (a lot of which have been instigated by others) and isn't as bad as Alex but she's by no means one of the better housemates

[Cal.]

Why did they bother putting them in if they've forced both of the twins out

[Jordan.]

Omg. Good at them getting strict with the rules again but they've probably only done this as a way to get rid of them quicker lol.

[Jack_]

But yes objectively speaking this is pretty pathetic

Welcome to Big Brother on Channel 5!

[Firewire]

This is so funny omg

She deserved to go for breaking out

[Greg!]

Lmao it's such an obvious ploy for ratings. They'd never have ejected say Lateysha if she did the same thing. But tbh Emma has got on my nerves recently so I'm not that bothered

[LukeB]

Emma is no where near as boring. Alex is the definition of boring not Emma

It's pretty unfair that Emma was ejected for breaking out loads of times but Gemma and Danniella did it every day. :shrug:

[zakman440]

I mean, it's good that they're finally cracking down on the breakouts, but you've got to laugh at the reason they've provided for ejecting Emma. "Unable to abide by the rules" - we don't even know what they are anymore!

[Time]

:(

[Dominic]

How is she not boring? All she does is walk around the house once a week and moan about other people's ~negative energy~ whilst ironically having a face like a slapped arse

She's had her moments (a lot of which have been instigated by others) and isn't as bad as Alex but she's by no means one of the better housemates
So basically walking around the house and moaning every week is repetitive and annoying but JMac screaming Grodner's lines in the DR in every episode on BBUS17 wasn't annoying and he's still your fave.

[Jack_]

This kinda puts me on edge a bit, knowing they could just eject one of your faves with some BS reason whenever they like :worry:

[Jordan.]

Atleast our Em is getting her wish to be destroyed tonight

http://i.imgur.com/PKq6n0q.gif

[Tom4784]

Not C5 desperately trying to cut the numbers down through any means necessary.

[Ross.]

Atleast our Em is getting her wish to be destroyed tonight

http://i.imgur.com/PKq6n0q.gif

:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

No loss to the show :idc: ......hope eviction is not cancelled

[Drew.]

This is so funny omg

She deserved to go for breaking out

I agree. Had she been allowed back in the house for a 2nd time i think a lot of people would have been angry at BB

[Jack_]

So basically walking around the house and moaning every week is repetitive and annoying but JMac screaming Grodner's lines in the DR in every episode on BBUS17 wasn't annoying and he's still your fave.

I'm not really sure how many times I have to repeat this before people get it into their heads, but I judge people differently on BBUK to the US and Canada since the formats are different and the onus isn't on the viewers to sustain the series

And I never used the word 'repetitive' either so please don't put words into my mouth k thanks

[Cal.]

Atleast our Em is getting her wish to be destroyed tonight

http://i.imgur.com/PKq6n0q.gif

The only thing that matters

[Will.]

I agree. Had she been allowed back in the house for a 2nd time i think a lot of people would have been angry at BB

This is true, you can't win with BB viewers. :laugh:

[LukeB]

She was going to go this week/next week anyway, they just wanted to cut people off because of the numbers :idc:

[Headie]

So basically walking around the house and moaning every week is repetitive and annoying but JMac screaming Grodner's lines in the DR in every episode on BBUS17 wasn't annoying and he's still your fave.

:clap1:

[Headie]

Jack_ still needs to rewatch BB8 to appreciate legend Nicky Maxwell and realise she's not a bore!

[LukeB]

This is true, you can't win with BB viewers. :laugh:

Did the viewers call for Gemma's ejection when she broke out everyday? icr.

[rph]

with her gone , can we swap her for Josh? lol

[Jack_]

:clap1:

I'm not really sure how many times I have to repeat this before people get it into their heads, but I judge people differently on BBUK to the US and Canada since the formats are different and the onus isn't on the viewers to sustain the series

And I never used the word 'repetitive' either so please don't put words into my mouth k thanks

This forum has a terrible problem with comprehension

[LukeB]

Jack_ still needs to rewatch BB8 to appreciate legend Nicky Maxwell and realise she's not a bore!

Nicky :love:

Emma was natural entertainment and none of the forced **** :love:

[LukeB]

and Emma is far from overrated... she's low on polls. profile favourites and bookie odds. If anything she's underrated.

[Jack_]

and Emma is far from overrated... she's low on polls. profile favourites and bookie odds. If anything she's underrated.

The fact she has more than one fan on here means she's overrated

[Babayaro.]

:clap1: Fair play to BB for finally stepping up

[*mazedsalv**]

Good!

She did it twice (or three times), Jayne/Chelsea did it once at the start. The ejection was phrased as "on multiple occasions", so this means, if from now on, anyone else tries to escape, they will be thrown out.

Good, it was about time BB got tough. It will hopefully stop from people being attention seekers.

[dyfed]

She won't be missed that's for sure,pity she didn't take Alex & Sam with her

[dyfed]

I must have had a senior moment as I don't remember seeing her trying to leave ??

[sampvt]

Bout time bb got stiff on the break out. They should install turnstile gates instead. The ones you can go through but not come back, no need for evictions then. Jason could pick the bitch Charlie up and push her out, that would be great.

[Shaun]

I'm more inclined to believe she wanted to go / was given the nudge by producers to reduce the numbers. Sad that it's being manipulated again.

[Ross.]

The fact she has more than one fan on here means she's overrated

What? How? :joker:

[Braden]

I'm more inclined to believe she wanted to go / was given the nudge by producers to reduce the numbers. Sad that it's being manipulated again.

I agree with this.

[chuff me dizzy]

She should have gone with her deranged sister, they were one hm8 ,one out .....all out

[Jack_]

What? How? :joker:

Because she doesn't deserve more than one fan cause she's crap :whistle:

[LukeB]

The fact she has more than one fan on here means she's overrated

Well everyone has fans so I don't see your point.

[Will.]

Did the viewers call for Gemma's ejection when she broke out everyday? icr.

I think they did actually lol :laugh:

Gemma and Daniella.

[Jack_]

Well everyone has fans so I don't see your point.

And some of them deserve more fans than others

When I say 'overrated' I'm always talking about on here cause who cares about what casual viewers think. She has way too many fans on here

[Ross.]

Because she doesn't deserve more than one fan cause she's crap :whistle:

Wrong :whistle:

Sorry Jack but this tea you're spilling is not hot and juicy

[Jordan.]

Just because she wasn't the center of all the highlights doesn't mean she wasn't a good housemate and didn't deserve any fans :suspect:

[Cherie]

Lol and so the C5 producers "lets look for any possible way to cull the numbers as much as possible" strategies have begun.

Chelsea should be ejected then for his break-out at the start?

Emma broke put before with her sister and was allowed back in even though they went in as one housemate, same with Jayne, Emma might have broken out at other times as well, good riddance

[Shaun]

guys jack has defined what entertainment is and we can't question it just move on ok

[Mullens123]

Im in two minds... its good to see Big Brother giving out a harsher punishment for those that do this. But then this should apply to anyone to tries to do it twice, and this may end up being a case of them trying to get down in numbers as they've cut the series far too short.

[Jack_]

Wrong :whistle:

Sorry Jack but this tea you're spilling is not hot and juicy

You're right, it's scalding and creamy :pipe:

Just because she wasn't the center of all the highlights doesn't mean she wasn't a good housemate and didn't deserve any fans :suspect:

It does, I mean she wasn't awful but she had way too many fans to justify what she'd actually brought

[LukeB]

And some of them deserve more fans than others

When I say 'overrated' I'm always talking about on here cause who cares about what casual viewers think. She has way too many fans on here

god forbid forum members liking someone

[Headie]

This forum has a terrible problem with comprehension

https://media.giphy.com/media/inGYv83llSx7a/giphy.gif

[Jack_]

guys jack has defined what entertainment is and we can't question it just move on ok

Correct :pipe:

No seriously this is such a silly argument, like who you want but I'm entitled to criticise it. It's no different from others saying someone like Lateysha is underrated, they clearly think she deserves more fans cause she's a good housemate - or are they not allowed to say that cause then they'd be defining what entertainment is?

Take it to its logical conclusion and you may as well close the forum down if no one can question a housemate's popularity

[Headie]

guys jack has defined what entertainment is and we can't question it just move on ok

god forbid forum members liking someone

:laugh:

[Jack_]

god forbid forum members liking someone

...liking a crap housemate! But then this forum's taste has diminished dramatically over the years so I shouldn't be surprised

[MB.]

lol the ****

[Headie]

Correct :pipe:

No seriously this is such a silly argument, like who you want but I'm entitled to criticise it. It's no different from others saying someone like Lateysha is underrated, they clearly think she deserves more fans cause she's a good housemate - or are they not allowed to say that cause then they'd be defining what entertainment is?

Take it to its logical conclusion and you may as well close the forum down if no one can question a housemate's popularity

None of us care if you criticise our opinion, we just don't like how you pretty much regard our opinion as invalid/less important because it doesn't match the criteria you use to determine your favourites :shrug:

[Jack_]

I'll be sure to point out whenever someone next says a housemate is underrated or overrated that they're defining what entertainment is and shouldn't be posting it!

This forum has some very strange habits

[Calderyon]

Good riddance.

She should´ve been gone when Emma & Victoria as twins escaped the house on the first time.

Marco and Chelsea should have gone as well as they did the same thing. Anyone doing it should be gone.

[Josy]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

[Lostie!]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

I will be if they actually attempt to exercise a bit of consistency and don't just do it when it suits them. The jury's still out on that :laugh:

[Headie]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

If it was a set rule then fair enough, but you just know there's gonna be future celeb HMs or even civilian HMs who break out and don't even get punished or the hot water gets turned off or something

[Shaun]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

Yeah I'm fine with this, just wish there was more consistency really. Willing to bet they wouldn't have ejected the livelier characters for something similar (Marco/Ryan/Natalie)

[LukeB]

Emma has had loads of moments, I didn't like her at one point but she's still a good housemate. She fumed people the other day by pressing the button in 0.5 seconds.Her feud with Georgina was amazing and it was so natural. and so on. Emma has had a fair few arguments as well.

[Samm]

No Emma <\3

[chuff me dizzy]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

I agree

[Josy]

If it was a set rule then fair enough, but you just know there's gonna be future celeb HMs or even civilian HMs who break out and don't even get punished or the hot water gets turned off or something
This is emmas second time though I think if this is a starting point for them clamping down on it then good on them

[Jack_]

None of us care if you criticise our opinion, we just don't like how you pretty much regard our opinion as invalid/less important because it doesn't match the criteria you use to determine your favourites :shrug:

Then you take my posts far too seriously :umm2: I'm of the opinion that supporting housemates who aren't contributing to the series is detrimental to the show and without wanting to start a debate on that for the millionth time that's been my opinion year in, year out for the entirety of my time on this forum because I'm consistent

No one has to agree with that but I'm perfectly entitled to criticise people when they do not because I personally believe it has a negative effect on the success of a show we all claim to be a fan of. Again, you do not have to listen or care (and quite frankly I'm not sure why you would, I'm just some text on a screen) but I'm allowed to say so since that's the point of a forum, or else those who say x is underrated or y is a crap housemate are also defining what entertainment is and shouldn't be allowed to post that either

I know it's cause I'm in the minority these days and so it's easy to direct the criticism at me but I'm using the forum for what it's for so

[Withano]

None of us care if you criticise our opinion, we just don't like how you pretty much regard our opinion as invalid/less important because it doesn't match the criteria you use to determine your favourites :shrug:

Jack uses the logic that thhe biggest/loudest **** / takes up most the airtime is the best housemate. And I get it tbf, I can see why that makes sense to him. I just dont get why he doesnt understand that others dont like to watch it that way..

[Cherie]

This is emmas second time though I think if this is a starting point for them clamping down on it then good on them


Exactly, and the key here is breaking out, she didn't go to the DR and ask to leave, so they could talk her down, anyone would think her bf had told her she didn't have a cats chance in hell of winning the thing :whistle:

[Jamie89]

WHAT!!!!!

[Jack_]

Emma has had loads of moments, I didn't like her at one point but she's still a good housemate. She fumed people the other day by pressing the button in 0.5 seconds.Her feud with Georgina was amazing and it was so natural. and so on. Emma has had a fair few arguments as well.

'Loads' is an exaggeration and lots of them have come either as a result of producer manipulation or been instigated by other housemates

She isn't as bad as some of the others (and even the 'bores' this year have had their moments) but she's still by no means some amazing housemate

[Jamie89]

I refuse to believe it

http://i.imgur.com/OHZq7kD.gif

[Braden]

I'm happy this may set a precedent for future housemates to avoid doing it in the future as it is seriously annoying, but the intention is quite obvious when producers are in a situation where they need to literally get over half of the housemates out within the next 2/3 weeks.

[Jordan.]

Contribution is subjective. Just because someone dominates the highlights doesn't mean they're adding to the series in a positive way. Emma modelling the pens was funnier to me than anything a big "entertaining" character has done this series.

[Cherie]

I'm happy this may set a precedent for future housemates to avoid doing it in the future as it is seriously annoying, but the intention is quite obvious when producers are in a situation where they need to literally get over half of the housemates out within the next 2/3 weeks.

Yeah the breaking out is getting tedious

[ebandit]

And some of them deserve more fans than others


i loved emma....same can be said of any HM ....how does andy have

fans when he is such a smart arse thinking he is cleverer than others

i'm proud of emma we need more climbers etc

Mark L

[Jack_]

Jack uses the logic that thhe biggest/loudest **** / takes up most the airtime is the best housemate. And I get it tbf, I can see why that makes sense to him. I just dont get why he doesnt understand that others dont like to watch it that way..

I do understand why others don't and have said it on many occasions, the fact I judge houseguests on BBUS and Can mainly on who I like as people should tell you that (in a strange way it's also quite liberating), but I still think it's a detrimental thought process to the success of a show we all claim to be a fan of

Everyone is welcome to judge housemates how they wish, and I'm obviously not going to turn anyone's opinion around (I am now a minority compared to a majority several years ago), but I'm also welcome to question the reasons some housemates are popular and say that I think it's bad for the show. The two don't cancel each other out, that is simply the point of a forum

[Cherie]

I do understand why others don't and have said it on many occasions, the fact I judge houseguests on BBUS and Can mainly on who I like as people should tell you that (in a strange way it's also quite liberating), but I still think it's a detrimental thought process to the success of a show we all claim to be a fan of

Everyone is welcome to judge housemates how they wish, and I'm obviously not going to turn anyone's opinion around m(I am now a minority compared to a majority several years ago), but I'm also welcome to question the reasons some housemates are popular and say that I think it's bad for the show. The two don't cancel each other out, that is simply the point of a forum


I agree with that

[Tarryn]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

Agree.
There should be a button in the house. If you press this button no matter how upset/pissed you are then you are gone.
I'm tired of this walking out crap. Go if you want to go :wavey:

[Jake.]

I'm glad in the respect that housemates constantly escaping is a pisstake

[Withano]

I do understand why others don't and have said it on many occasions, the fact I judge houseguests on BBUS and Can mainly on who I like as people should tell you that (in a strange way it's also quite liberating), but I still think it's a detrimental thought process to the success of a show we all claim to be a fan of

Everyone is welcome to judge housemates how they wish, and I'm obviously not going to turn anyone's opinion around (I am now a minority compared to a majority several years ago), but I'm also welcome to question the reasons some housemates are popular and say that I think it's bad for the show. The two don't cancel each other out, that is simply the point of a forum

I dont think its detrimental at all, the show has improved week on week for me as the biggest twat left each time. Emma was great fun to watch, fun in the conventional sense, not fun as in shouts a lot and pisses housemates off. she'll be much more missed than Marco/Natalie/Georgina for that reason.

A lot of your posts have an undertone of 'my favourite is better than your facourite cus my favourite is louder and takes up more airtime' but nah, if the airtime somebody takes up pisses me off, that would make them a bad housemate, not a good one.

[Jack_]

Contribution is subjective. Just because someone dominates the highlights doesn't mean they're adding to the series in a positive way. Emma modelling the pens was funnier to me than anything a big "entertaining" character has done this series.

Contribution itself is objective, the quality of contribution is subjective

The point is that those who are contributing incite discussion on forums, social media and in real life. Discussion creates attention and attention leads to more success for the series, that's it. No one is going to hear about Emma talking about ~negative energy~ and decide to discuss it with someone or indeed watch the show for it, Andy starting an argument over gay rights for a clear joke on the other hand - probably

I was agreeing with you more than we have for years before I went on holiday, I come back and all your opinions have changed...what happened :o

[Denver]

people complain they dont get strict with rule breakers but cry when one of their faves break the rules and is punished

[Jack_]

I dont think its detrimental at all, the show has improved week on week for me as the biggest twat left each time. Emma was great fun to watch, fun in the conventional sense, not fun as in shouts a lot and pisses housemates off. she'll be much more missed than Marco/Natalie/Georgina for that reason.

A lot of your posts have an undertone of 'my favourite is better than your facourite cus my favourite is louder and takes up more airtime' but nah, if the airtime somebody takes up pisses me off, that would make them a bad housemate, not a good one.

Georgina's eviction week definitely wasn't as good as Natalie's, this series is a bit up and down but the quality has been good, just to varying levels. All that is though is proof that if you pick a cast with few duds (even Alex and Sam have had their moments) it will deliver

But in a general sense it is most definitely detrimental to the overall, objective success of the show. Evict a housemate who is the star of the series and creating lots of discussion and it is going to suffer since all of that discussion is wiped out and they're no longer around to provoke things happening. Now the argument that succeeds this is always 'yeah but then we see other housemates!' and I just think that's silly, because effectively you're evicting a housemate you know is contributing on the gamble that someone else may or may not step up to the plate, and 90% of the time they do not (this series is a notable exception because of the aforementioned good cast) so it's a pointless decision which has a negative affect on the series. There are also instances where it negatively affects ratings too, I'm not making this up - there's proof of it

Don't equate loud with good cause that's one of my pet hates, I have plenty of favourites who are the opposite of loud :laugh: but of course I think my favourites are better, they're my damn favourites! What you and most viewers do though is think about what is best for your personal enjoyment of the show rather than what is best for the collective, and that's fine and a common 'obvious' way to think but it's also counterproductive to the success of a show you're claiming to be a fan of. A housemate may be annoying you, but is is far better that people have opinions on them and are talking about them than not!

[fitz2k2]

so what if jackson decide to storm out.Ch5 will def bring him back,

[ebandit]

people complain they dont get strict with rule breakers but cry when one of their faves break the rules and is punished
emma was my only fave.....and i have no complaint

Mark L

[Withano]

Georgina's eviction week definitely wasn't as good as Natalie's, this series is a bit up and down but the quality has been good, just to varying levels. All that is though is proof that if you pick a cast with few duds (even Alex and Sam have had their moments) it will deliver

But in a general sense it is most definitely detrimental to the overall, objective success of the show. Evict a housemate who is the star of the series and creating lots of discussion and it is going to suffer since all of that discussion is wiped out and they're no longer around to provoke things happening. Now the argument that succeeds this is always 'yeah but then we see other housemates!' and I just think that's silly, because effectively you're evicting a housemate you know is contributing on the gamble that someone else may or may not step up to the plate, and 90% of the time they do not (this series is a notable exception because of the aforementioned good cast) so it's a pointless decision which has a negative affect on the series. There are also instances where it negatively affects ratings too, I'm not making this up - there's proof of it

Don't equate loud with good cause that's one of my pet hates, I have plenty of favourites who are the opposite of loud :laugh: but of course I think my favourites are better, they're my damn favourites! What you and most viewers do though is think about what is best for your personal enjoyment of the show rather than what is best for the collective, and that's fine and a common 'obvious' way to think but it's also counterproductive to the success of a show you're claiming to be a fan of. A housemate may be annoying you, but is is far better that people have opinions on them and are talking about them than not!

But this is exactly what youre doing, you completely understamd that youre the minority who likes the gob****es yet you want them in.. Thinking about your personal enjoyment is exactly what you are doing.. Exactly what everyone does and then theres a common vote for the most popular opinion..

If you had it your way, the three evictees and probably Andrew would still be there
That would be a ****ing migraine.

[kirklancaster]

I'm declaring today a national day of mourning, we will never forget Emma!

Who Ross? Who is Emma? :hee:

[Jack_]

But this is exactly what youre doing, you completely understamd that youre the minority who likes the gob****es yet you want them in.. Thinking about your personal enjoyment is exactly what you are doing.. Exactly what everyone does and then theres a common vote for the most popular opinion..

If you had it your way, the three evictees and probably Andrew would still be there
That would be a ****ing migraine.

No it isn't, I'm thinking about what's best for the series itself. If I thought what was best for me then my favourites would be completely different and more along the lines of who I support in the US and Canada. I support housemates in the UK based on the objective contribution they are offering to the series since those housemates are the ones sparking discussions and drawing attention to the show and thus they need to stay for the success of the franchise. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything I'm doing y'all a favour :joker:

As a side note I understand I'm the minority but rewind a few years and I was part of a majority who thought like this, I honestly don't know what happened but I've watched things fall by the wayside on this forum over the years and now it's only me and a few others who are holding the fort while many others who once agreed have now turned to the dark side :laugh: tragic, but what can you do?

[Xtopher]

& I'm officially sad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap1:

good riddance to the fake plastic boring cow

[Xtopher]

Atleast our Em is getting her wish to be destroyed tonight

http://i.imgur.com/PKq6n0q.gif

Get smashed. :clap1:

[hot2go]

She pressed that button again to ensure her and Josh could be the next celebrity couple.

So she needs to get out straight away so they can capitalise on it.
BB are now surplus to requirements.

I think the old Mother Theresa routine has run its course.

[Withano]

No it isn't, I'm thinking about what's best for the series itself. If I thought what was best for me then my favourites would be completely different and more along the lines of who I support in the US and Canada. I support housemates in the UK based on the objective contribution they are offering to the series since those housemates are the ones sparking discussions and drawing attention to the show and thus they need to stay for the success of the franchise. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything I'm doing y'all a favour :joker:

As a side note I understand I'm the minority but rewind a few years and I was part of a majority who thought like this, I honestly don't know what happened but I've watched things fall by the wayside on this forum over the years and now it's only me and a few others who are holding the fort while many others who once agreed have now turned to the dark side :laugh: tragic, but what can you do?

You're saying that the housemates you support are the ones you believe would be the best fo the series?
Even though there are opinion polls which show that those are the people that fans can not bare watching?
Youre just presuming fans dont know what they want but you know what they want
None of this makes sense.

People like Emma but shes a bad housemate cus youre presuming shes not beneficial to the show because fans dont really wanna watch her, theyd rather watch Marco and youre basin that on the fact that its what you believe to be true regardless of opinion polls which say differently?

That makes no sense. You need a sit down!

[sungrass]

ITS CALLED KARMA beatch!!!

She choose to spend too nights with her fella - when as a new age hippie she should not have been so selfish!!!

And now she is with him all the time

INSTANT KARMA's gonna get you!!

[arista]

This kinda puts me on edge a bit, knowing they could just eject one of your faves with some BS reason whenever they like :worry:


No
she wants his Cock


So its Break out time

Kept doing it
So Ejection - normal.

[hot2go]

No it isn't, I'm thinking about what's best for the series itself. If I thought what was best for me then my favourites would be completely different and more along the lines of who I support in the US and Canada. I support housemates in the UK based on the objective contribution they are offering to the series since those housemates are the ones sparking discussions and drawing attention to the show and thus they need to stay for the success of the franchise. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything I'm doing y'all a favour :joker:

As a side note I understand I'm the minority but rewind a few years and I was part of a majority who thought like this, I honestly don't know what happened but I've watched things fall by the wayside on this forum over the years and now it's only me and a few others who are holding the fort while many others who once agreed have now turned to the dark side :laugh: tragic, but what can you do?

I agree completly with you...and I am the same..I think all 3 of the previous evictees were good for the show even though I didn't like all of them so much...I think Ryan and Hughie are good housemates but I can't stand em. I thinks Jayne is a good housemate but I really disagree with her past. And I think Alex is prob a nice guy but he should be evicted.

It's a concept not many people believe when it's said but in my case it's true.

[Daniel.]

I think the thing is for me Jack is that you don't seem to get that some people don't think people like Marc (example) are good for the show, in fact they actively take away because there such domineering unpleasant characters and make people switch off rather than tune in. (I haven't read the rest of this thread so ignore this if it's been asked).

[JTM45]

Before anyone took a single one of Jack's posts seriously you should have noted that he has 'Gemma Collins' listed as his BB17 Favourite (and he still enjoys Nikki Graham's Big Brother residency!).

He's not like normal BB viewers. He watches it 'conceptually'.:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

she showed herself to be a vile selfish cow completely at odds with her crafted fake mother earth image

a vile bitch

[sungrass]

Im in two minds... its good to see Big Brother giving out a harsher punishment for those that do this. But then this should apply to anyone to tries to do it twice, and this may end up being a case of them trying to get down in numbers as they've cut the series far too short.

They should EXTEND IT!!!!

[T*]

DAMN IT I WAS jUST STARTING TO LIKE HER AND WANTING HER TO WIN

[sungrass]

The problem with just evicting wimpy walkers is that some of them are really firey!! and they are in the middle of the best story lines - and they are experiencing something challenging - if they just got evicted, just for asking - you'd have flat liners in there so boring they send you to sleep!!! KARMA EMMA you shoudla known better!!

[Beso]

that should read.....

Emma ejected from bb for NOT having sex with her boyfriend even though BB pushed them into it and forced it onto the viewers, spending a lot of money in the process

[T*]

Yes she should've been ejected though- I don't disagree with that, what she did was stupid

[sungrass]

that should read.....

Emma ejected from bb for NOT having sex with her boyfriend even though BB pushed them into it and forced it onto the viewers, spending a lot of money in the process

Urgh all that romancy stuff was puke inducing.

[sungrass]

she showed herself to be a vile selfish cow completely at odds with her crafted fake mother earth image

a vile bitch

A bit harsh!! but you re so right - it was such a SELFISH thing to do - I liked her so much before that!!

A hippie should think of the good of everyone - she had just spent the night with him!!

Now she gets to see him every night and shes lost the opportunity of a lifetime!! silly silly girl.

[Jack_]

You're saying that the housemates you support are the ones you believe would be the best fo the series?
Even though there are opinion polls which show that those are the people that fans can not bare watching?
Youre just presuming fans dont know what they want but you know what they want
None of this makes sense.

People like Emma but shes a bad housemate cus youre presuming shes not beneficial to the show because fans dont really wanna watch her, theyd rather watch Marco and youre basin that on the fact that its what you believe to be true regardless of opinion polls which say differently?

That makes no sense. You need a sit down!

As I always say, when you start using the public vote and opinion polls as a barometer of who is and who isn't a good housemate you've made a mistake as the public don't know anything...and no they don't know what they want :laugh:

These are the same people who demand certain housemates are evicted and then complain when the series is boring! They need to be ignored at all costs. Like and dislike housemates all you wish, but the minute you start wanting housemates out who are provoking discussion and inciting reactions in people, regardless of whether it's positive or negative, that needs to be stopped. Because it is better for people to be actively hating on housemates, talking about them, watching to see what they do next, than for the series to be full of 'nice' people who everyone loves and everyone loves each other because the amount of people who want to watch that is very small, whether people realise it or not

It's like killing off all of the main characters in a soap leaving only the extras in, you'd end the show overnight. It is exactly the same with a show like Big Brother, remove the characters and what do you have? Nothing, and people will not watch

I agree completly with you...and I am the same..I think all 3 of the previous evictees were good for the show even though I didn't like all of them so much...I think Ryan and Hughie are good housemates but I can't stand em. I thinks Jayne is a good housemate but I really disagree with her past. And I think Alex is prob a nice guy but he should be evicted.

It's a concept not many people believe when it's said but in my case it's true.

Exactly, so thankful there's still people on here who see things this way :clap1:

I think the thing is for me Jack is that you don't seem to get that some people don't think people like Marc (example) are good for the show, in fact they actively take away because there such domineering unpleasant characters and make people switch off rather than tune in. (I haven't read the rest of this thread so ignore this if it's been asked).

They may make a few people switch off, but not on the whole. Like I said there are occasions throughout BBUK's history where ratings have declined when a big character has been evicted, and that is because it is casual viewers who need to be chased and not superfans like you and I

Casual fans are fickle, they're like the Facebook cat ladies en masse who will chastise pretty much any housemate who is daring to speak and demand they're evicted, but then will complain the show is boring and won't be watching anymore. They don't consciously know what they want but it's simple, housemates who are provoking a reaction out of viewers (people love to hate don't forget) are good for the show because they get people talking and irate and that's far better than a series full of inoffensive housemates who don't inspire any kind of interest (good or bad) from the casuals. People won't watch if there's nothing to talk about or nothing going on

Before anyone took a single one of Jack's posts seriously you should have noted that he has 'Gemma Collins' listed as his BB17 Favourite (and he still enjoys Nikki Graham's Big Brother residency!).

He's not like normal BB viewers. He watches it 'conceptually'.:laugh:

Gemma Collins was one of the stars or CBB17 so I'm not sure what point you're making and did you even watch the latest season of BBCan? Nikki was one of the main reasons it was so great, and even people who didn't like her that much before agreed

[Rob!]

Meh. As long as this is a rule they use in future, I'm fine with this.

And if this means one less housemate being removed at the mass eviction :fc:

[Mitchell]

Here for Sam being ejected for a smelly fart breaching health and safety

[Vanessa]

Here for Sam being ejected for a smelly fart breaching health and safety

:joker:

[Withano]

As I always say, when you start using the public vote and opinion polls as a barometer of who is and who isn't a good housemate you've made a mistake as the public don't know anything...and no they don't know what they want :laugh:




This is just conceited and arrogant dude

Youre just presuming your opinion is better than everybody elses... and that was pretty clear in your other posts before you admitted it too.

People dont watch the show the same way you do and you need to acknowledge this and move on instead of lecturing them

[Tom4784]

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

They're doing it for the wrong reasons though, they've been lax all season and now they've obviously given her the push for a really weak reason to reduce numbers. They need to be consistent.

[Daniel-X]

I think this is probably the most unworthy ejection EVER in the history of the show. I don't think I'd disagree so much if they didn't let Danniella/Gemma get away with it so much last year but that's obviously because Gemma was their prised possession in the last CBB. It's just so contradictory and C5 should've given her a formal warning at least, I can't even remember Gemma/Danni getting that. I can guarantee if it was Ryan/Hughie walking out the fire exit numerous times they wouldn't even get a formal warning because producers are fapping off to them.

[Pete.]

But Gemma and Daniella did it all the time :umm2:

Not really disappointed as Emma was annoying me lately, without her BF >>>

[Pete.]

They're doing it for the wrong reasons though, they've been lax all season and now they've obviously given her the push for a really weak reason to reduce numbers. They need to be consistent.
They must view her as a non-essential HM like Gemma/Lisa eta were

[Headie]

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/267794-big-brother-2016-now-ryan-ruckledge-escapes-house.html

So if Ryan breaks out again he'll be ejected?

[Maxxie.]

Fair enough tbh, they should really be ejected if they do that once although that might suck because entertaining people do that and if she escaped without BB doing anything, the same people that are complaining she's gone would probably complain about that.

[jaxie]

I'm declaring today a national day of mourning, we will never forget Emma!

Who?

[jet]

That's a shame. I liked her.

[Maxxie.]

How many times did Gemma try to leave last year? And it could be a new thing that if a housemate breaks out once they get a formal warning and twice they're ejected.

[Will.]

I guess if they decided to become more stricter with the breakouts there was always going to be a first victim, in this case it was Emma :(

[Marsh.]

Severe old school harsh BB and punishments is very welcome but it needs to be fair.
This programme doesn't know how to be consistent with itself.

[Livia]

Severe old school harsh BB and punishments is very welcome but it needs to be fair.
This programme doesn't know how to be consistent with itself.

Marshy. You have your old avatar back. This is good... I approve.

[Will.]

I feel like we don't know everything about what happened, BB have said a lot of rules were broking.

[Mitchell]

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/267794-big-brother-2016-now-ryan-ruckledge-escapes-house.html

So if Ryan breaks out again he'll be ejected?

Of course he won't, he's Ryan

[JayBlaze]

Get rid of the alien looking thing, she was boring AF.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Where was the justice when people like Ziggy and John James and Aaron and mother****ing SeeTheCash repeatedly threatened to do this / ACTUALLY ****ING DID THIS

[Glenn-C]

Every time somebody breaks out, everybody says BB shouldn't let them back.

Now that this has actually happened, everyone loses their minds? :shrug:

[Jack_]

This is just conceited and arrogant dude

Youre just presuming your opinion is better than everybody elses... and that was pretty clear in your other posts before you admitted it too.

People dont watch the show the same way you do and you need to acknowledge this and move on instead of lecturing them

Of course I think my opinion is right and better than everyone else's, it's my damn opinion :facepalm: I'm so bored of having to say this on here when it's such a stupid argument. It wouldn't be much of an opinion if I didn't believe it were right, would it? What do you want me to do, write 'IMO' at the end of all of my posts? Because me typing something out on a forum should be pretty obvious that it's my opinion

Err...you must've missed my first reply to you where I explicitly said I know people don't watch the show the same as I do:

I do understand why others don't and have said it on many occasions

Oh, and pretty much all of my subsequent replies where I said I'm in the minority these days. People not reading threads properly is another common problem on here

This is a forum, if I disagree with a housemate having fans, disagree that some housemates are entertaining, disagree with the way some people view the show because it's detrimental to its success, I am entitled to say so. That is the point of a forum. No one has to listen, no one has to respond, no one has to agree - and they can say as much. That is also the beauty of a forum. But I will continue to express my opinion because otherwise there wouldn't be much point in me being on here, and that may be what you want but sadly you're going to have to put up with me for the time being

[Macie Lightfoot]

and obviously we're all entitled to having our own opinions but literally coming out and saying that you're doing it for the interest of what's best for the show and we should be thanking you really is something extra.

yes I know, coming from me of all people blah blah blah

[Jack_]

and obviously we're all entitled to having our own opinions but literally coming out and saying that you're doing it for the interest of what's best for the show and we should be thanking you really is something extra.

yes I know, coming from me of all people blah blah blah

That was tongue in cheek if you hadn't noticed but err...I kinda do view the show objectively

And precisely, so why bother commenting? :joker:

[Headie]

And precisely, so why bother commenting? :joker:

Didn't you just say before the whole point of a forum is to comment and discuss, offer different viewpoints then criticise them and discuss why etc.?

[Jack_]

Didn't you just say before the whole point of a forum is to comment and discuss, offer different viewpoints then criticise them and discuss why etc.?

Was Macie discussing the series or its housemates or me? There is a difference

If he himself laughed at the idea of calling someone else out for thinking their opinion is right and above everyone else's, I will too because it's absurdly hypocritical. My point being that if he knows this, why bother saying anything?

[Headie]

Was Macie discussing the series or its housemates or me? There is a difference

If he himself laughed at the idea of calling someone else out for thinking their opinion is right and above everyone else's, I will too because it's absurdly hypocritical. My point being that if he knows this, why bother saying anything?

That's like saying 'well since you know that keeping the biggest contributors in the house is the best thing to do then what's the point commenting on here because you already know what the truth is and shouldn't care about other people's view?' :conf:

[Headie]

Back on topic, here's the clip of her leaving :laugh:

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[Headie]

:joker: @ them all chasing after her

[mysargasso]

:clap1: Fair play to BB for finally stepping up

Yes, finally. Although they should have stepped up when Marco, Chelsea, and the twins first tried to escape. The whole Others angle could have been saved and we would have had a much better series overall.

[Jack_]

That's like saying 'well since you know that keeping the biggest contributors in the house is the best thing to do then what's the point commenting on here because you already know what the truth is and shouldn't care about other people's view?' :conf:

That makes no sense whatsoever, and has no relation to what I'm talking about.

Firstly I'd comment on here to present my perspective to other people and engage in discussions with others about it, which is the point of a forum.

But secondly, Macie tried to criticise me for being 'extra' and making out my opinion is wonderful and factual and better than everyone else's, and then pretty much remarked himself how absurd that is given his posting style. I then did the same, stating that if he knows how hypocritical it is, why bother posting it?

But of course I should remember that it's okay to present your opinions as factual and be overly forceful with them so long as others agree! Ah TiBB and its inconsistency and hypocrisy :joker: :rolleyes:

[jennyjuniper]

Didn't she leave after yet another tirade from that ham actor Jackson?

[Lostie!]

Back on topic, here's the clip of her leaving :laugh:

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So she went because some of them just couldn't shut the **** up about the task? Why can't they just drop it already? :umm2:

[Headie]

So she went because some of them just couldn't shut the **** up about the task? Why can't they just drop it already? :umm2:

I don't really know why they're all mad, they all got to see their loved ones

[Ross.]

[/B]
Who Ross? Who is Emma? :hee:

Don't try and get smart with me Kirk :fist:

[y.winter]

This boyfriend task twisted her mind.

[Maru]

:( @ Emma

But if this is true and she was a frequent escapee, then they need to crack down on that. It gets annoying every series with all the quitters trying to leave every time a slight burning twinge to their egos

[arista]

DAMN IT I WAS jUST STARTING TO LIKE HER AND WANTING HER TO WIN

You did
not know her well/


Ey Candy - yes


Emma -- ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

Fact

[arista]

This boyfriend task twisted her mind.


No his Cock was Solid

[Jamie89]

Back on topic, here's the clip of her leaving :laugh:

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Bless her :sad: She probably felt a bit ganged up on and that they weren't going to let it go.

[Jamie89]

I guess if they decided to become more stricter with the breakouts there was always going to be a first victim, in this case it was Emma :(

Trailblazer :clap1:

[Lostie!]

Bless her :sad: She probably felt a bit ganged up on and that they weren't going to let it go.

And I don't blame her. Jackson in particular needs to dial back the self righteous crap, he got a video of his child in the end so no harm done. :idc:

[Jason.]

Every time somebody breaks out, everybody says BB shouldn't let them back.

Now that this has actually happened, everyone loses their minds? :shrug:

I came on here to say this.

I remember when Gemma and Daniella walked out and people kept complaining saying "if people say they want to go, let them go" or if they break out don't let them back in and now they've done that people are getting annoyed. I doubt that would be the case if it was an unpopular housemate on here.

I like Emma and I'm sad to see her go but if she kept trying to break out, it's obvious she didn't want to be in there so I don't think it was wrong ejecting her. Although it is a silly reason mind and it screams trying to cut the numbers short.

[Jamie89]

And I don't blame her. Jackson in particular needs to dial back the self righteous crap, he got a video of his child in the end so no harm done. :idc:

Yeah they were meant to be friends tbf. Even if he had an issue with it at the time, it all worked out fine for everyone, they'd all said their piece on it, and he and everyone else should have just got over it and let it go. Like you said, no harm done in the end. I think he kept going with it to make himself look better to the public though.
I think you can tell from her face in that video that she'd had enough of the crap, and that the house was just going to bring her further down.

[Cherie]

Every time somebody breaks out, everybody says BB shouldn't let them back.

Now that this has actually happened, everyone loses their minds? :shrug:

Not everyone :wavey:

[Jay28jay2]

The more recent ejections have been pathetic

Aaron Frew- Flashed
Tila Tequila- Tweets from the outside world FROM 2012
Andrew Tate- A video from the outside world FROM 2012 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
And Now Emma Jensen- For breaking out the house.

And they dont eject vile bullies?

[Jamie89]

Every time somebody breaks out, everybody says BB shouldn't let them back.

Now that this has actually happened, everyone loses their minds? :shrug:

I don't think anyone's really saying that it was wrong to eject her though, people just seem to be either pointing out that it's inconsistent with what's happened in the past, or posting that they're sad she's left.
Personally I think it's good that they're sticking to the rules, and I hope that they do this for every housemate in the same circumstances, it annoys me when contestants escape then come back. But that doesn't stop me from being sad that she's not on the show anymore.

[Kazanne]

She obviously wanted to go and be with her boyfriend,afterall she pressed that button so soon after she had already spent the night with him,so,no loss really

[Babayaro.]

No his Cock was Solid

:laugh2:

[Withano]

Of course I think my opinion is right and better than everyone else's, it's my damn opinion :facepalm: I'm so bored of having to say this on here when it's such a stupid argument. It wouldn't be much of an opinion if I didn't believe it were right, would it? What do you want me to do, write 'IMO' at the end of all of my posts? Because me typing something out on a forum should be pretty obvious that it's my opinion


Oh. Well then let me blow your mind real quick

Your opinion is not better than everybody elses

You not realising this is the problem.

Think we just solved it.

[Jack_]

Oh. Well then let me blow your mind real quick

Your opinion is hot better than everybody else

You not realising this is thhe problem.

Think we just solved it.

Ah but here's the caveat which opens up the matrix - that is of course your opinion of my opinion! Aren't forums fun? :joker:

We didn't solve anything, you've chopped and chosen the parts of my posts you wish to criticise (mainly the ones regarding me believing in my own opinion) and ignored all of the valid points I made in justification of my perspective - the initial discussion we were actually having. Presumably because you don't know how to respond?

[Withano]

Ah but here's the caveat which opens up the matrix - that is of course your opinion of my opinion! Aren't forums fun? :joker:

We didn't solve anything, you've chopped and chosen the parts of my posts you wish to criticise (mainly the ones regarding me believing in my own opinion) and ignored all of the valid points I made in justification of my perspective - the initial discussion we were actually having. Presumably because you don't know how to respond?

The initial discussion made zero sense, you completely contradicted yourself whilst being blissfully unaware, which is pretty out of character for you because your posts usually make you out to be a pretty smart guy.

I can summarise your points to make it clearer why a lot of people on this thread have been confused by your logic

You want the show to be better by keeping the housemates that the majority dislike in
Illogical
You believe people dont know what they want to watch and only you know what they want to watch, so opinion polls are useless because they dont coinside with yours
Stupid and conceited
You believe your opinion trumps all elses, making it not much of a discussion at all, just a belittling egotist really
You usually come off better than this, today your posts were dumb.

[Cherie]

Because it's not consistent. In this series alone:
Jane
Marco
Chelsea
Emma
Victoria

all walked out and were all allowed to return. Victoria chose not to. All of sudden they've made up a rule that if you do it twice you can't come back. I'm sure some of the others would have liked a day off if they knew they could come back so easily.



Do we actually know what happened with Emma as yet?

[minny03]

Georgina's eviction week definitely wasn't as good as Natalie's, this series is a bit up and down but the quality has been good, just to varying levels. All that is though is proof that if you pick a cast with few duds (even Alex and Sam have had their moments) it will deliver

But in a general sense it is most definitely detrimental to the overall, objective success of the show. Evict a housemate who is the star of the series and creating lots of discussion and it is going to suffer since all of that discussion is wiped out and they're no longer around to provoke things happening. Now the argument that succeeds this is always 'yeah but then we see other housemates!' and I just think that's silly, because effectively you're evicting a housemate you know is contributing on the gamble that someone else may or may not step up to the plate, and 90% of the time they do not (this series is a notable exception because of the aforementioned good cast) so it's a pointless decision which has a negative affect on the series. There are also instances where it negatively affects ratings too, I'm not making this up - there's proof of it

Exactly! I agree with this entire post, especially with the bolded part. I have always felt this way. Marco and Natalie may have annoyed me at times, but they both brought a lot to the show. The same goes with Georgina. They generated a lot of discussion and contributed to many of the story lines.

So unfortunately, whenever a big character is evicted, then BAM! It impacts everything! It means that a long host of potential/developing/interesting/intriguing/dynamic story lines go straight out the window in one large swoop - and that completely brings down the momentum and overall quality of the program.

Its foolish to act like huge personalities like Marco, Georgina, and Natalie leaving early do not hurt the show. I don't know why people don't understand this.

[Marsh.]

Marshy. You have your old avatar back. This is good... I approve.

:flutter:

[MarcusMel]

No it isn't, I'm thinking about what's best for the series itself. If I thought what was best for me then my favourites would be completely different and more along the lines of who I support in the US and Canada. I support housemates in the UK based on the objective contribution they are offering to the series since those housemates are the ones sparking discussions and drawing attention to the show and thus they need to stay for the success of the franchise. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything I'm doing y'all a favour :joker:

As a side note I understand I'm the minority but rewind a few years and I was part of a majority who thought like this, I honestly don't know what happened but I've watched things fall by the wayside on this forum over the years and now it's only me and a few others who are holding the fort while many others who once agreed have now turned to the dark side :laugh: tragic, but what can you do?

To keep the ones you speak of in the house would be saying that the general masses approve of their behaviour. Not sure how much influence these thing have on general social behaviour but to approve of bad behaviour for the sake of entertainment would be having little children everywhere having tantrums and telling decent people to *******off.

So the question is are you really seeing the the bigger long-term picture of is it really all just about entertainment and rewarding and only geting to choose a winner from the worst of the worst?

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think my biggest thing about Talking Points is that this show is already on its last legs, in its seveneenth iteration airing on a crap channel to a cult audience. I really don't think who is and isn't evicted and who is and isn't A Big Character is going to help the show's status because it barely has a status to begin with.

[Jack_]

The initial discussion made zero sense, you completely contradicted yourself whilst being blissfully unaware, which is pretty out of character for you because your posts usually make you out to be a pretty smart guy.

I can summarise your points to make it clearer why a lot of people on this thread have been confused by your logic

You want the show to be better by keeping the housemates that the majority dislike in
Illogical
You believe people dont know what they want to watch and only you know what they want to watch, so opinion polls are useless because they dont coinside with yours
Stupid and conceited
You believe your opinion trumps all elses, making it not much of a discussion at all, just a belittling egotist really
You usually come off better than this, today your posts were dumb.

Please refer me to the part of the discussion where I contradicted myself?

It isn't illogical, because if you'd paid attention to any of the arguments I'd presented you'd have noticed I kept repeating that housemates who are disliked are better than housemates people have no opinion on since shows like these thrive off of discussion - nobody is going to talk about a housemate that has little impact on anyone. As the saying goes, all publicity is good publicity and it doesn't matter whether people dislike certain housemates, that is a GOOD thing. People love to hate and housemates who incite discussion and opinions are beneficial to the show. Discussion equals attention and attention equals a successful series.

They don't know what they want to watch! You only need to sit back and observe this forum, other forums and social media to see the inevitable go down every series. A housemate that is divisive and domineering is chastised and people demand they are evicted, rinse and repeat for several weeks. These same people then complain the series is boring! It's like turkeys voting for Christmas, the majority of viewers watch the show through a subjective lens caring only about housemates they like as people (which is an entirely different discussion altogether that we won't go near). The problem is that if everybody does that, no one is thinking about the overall quality of the show! The majority of viewers are praising this series and a lot of that has to do with what has gone down, now it's all fine and dandy having opinions on who is right and wrong in arguments etc but once you start wanting people who are involved in the events that you think are making this series so good to be evicted - you are destroying it! You can't have an opinion on future incidents if said housemates aren't there to cause one can you? I'm going off on a tangent here but to add to all of this: there have been instances throughout BBUK's history where ratings have declined when a big character have been evicted, so I'm not making this up. People don't know what is best for the overall quality of the series

Of course I think my opinion trumps all else: it. is. my. ****ing. opinion. I've seen some idiotic things written on here in my eight years of membership but this criticism being bandied around all the time in different threads and to different members really is one of the worst of them all. It isn't much of an opinion if you don't believe it to be correct! It should go without saying that every post I type out on a discussion forum is my own opinion, I don't need to add the pointless 'IMO' to every one of them. The point of a forum is for you to post your opinion and debate with others why you think yours is right and theirs is wrong, otherwise what exactly is the point in us being here if we're all just going to concede 'yeah well that's my opinion and yours is yours so'...we may as well not post them and just keep our views to ourselves? :conf:

Exactly! I agree with this entire post, especially with the bolded part. I have always felt this way. Marco and Natalie may have annoyed me at times, but they both brought a lot to the show. The same goes with Georgina. They generated a lot of discussion and contributed to many of the story lines.

So unfortunately, whenever a big character is evicted, then BAM! It impacts everything! It means that a long host of potential/developing/interesting/intriguing/dynamic story lines go straight out the window in one large swoop - and that completely brings down the momentum and overall quality of the program.

Its foolish to act like huge personalities like Marco, Georgina, and Natalie leaving early do not hurt the show. I don't know why people don't understand this.

With every person who posts something like this, my faith in this forums taste and sensibility is restored so thank you :love:

I agree with every word you've said.

[Headie]

I think my biggest thing about Talking Points is that this show is already on its last legs, in its seveneenth iteration airing on a crap channel to a cult audience. I really don't think who is and isn't evicted and who is and isn't A Big Character is going to help the show's status because it barely has a status to begin with.

[2]

[Ross.]

No his Cock was Solid

:joker:

[Lostie!]

Exactly! I agree with this entire post, especially with the bolded part. I have always felt this way. Marco and Natalie may have annoyed me at times, but they both brought a lot to the show. The same goes with Georgina. They generated a lot of discussion and contributed to many of the story lines.

So unfortunately, whenever a big character is evicted, then BAM! It impacts everything! It means that a long host of potential/developing/interesting/intriguing/dynamic story lines go straight out the window in one large swoop - and that completely brings down the momentum and overall quality of the program.

Its foolish to act like huge personalities like Marco, Georgina, and Natalie leaving early do not hurt the show. I don't know why people don't understand this.

That's just such an odd way of looking at it. The fact is that it's all subjective. Who is anyone to say that what hurts the show for them also hurts it for everyone else? That's not how it works, different people derive enjoyment from different things.

For me, Marco staying would have been a detriment to my enjoyment. The same for Natalie and the same for Georgina. If their evictions hurt the show for you, fair enough and you have every right to express that. What you don't have the right to do, however, is to basically say that this opinion of yours is, or at least should be, shared by everybody else otherwise they're "foolish". Their evictions didn't hurt the show for me. I'm not in denial about anything, I'm genuinely glad they're gone.

By the same token, I'll miss having Emma around but I don't, for some bizarre reason, expect the people who didn't like her to miss her just because I said that's the right way of thinking. There's nothing for people to "understand" because you're not working with facts here.

[Jack_]

To keep the ones you speak of in the house would be saying that the general masses approve of their behaviour. Not sure how much influence these thing have on general social behaviour but to approve of bad behaviour for the sake of entertainment would be having little children everywhere having tantrums and telling decent people to *******off.

So the question is are you really seeing the the bigger long-term picture of is it really all just about entertainment and rewarding and only geting to choose a winner from the worst of the worst?

I'll answer that one for you: none at all. Big Brother is trash television airing on a trash television channel. Anyone seriously looking towards it for moral guidance as if it's culturally relevant needs to reassess their priorities.

Big Brother is not a charity, nor is it a morality competition. What happens inside the confines of a glorified television set - the content of which we watch for 48 minutes a night - has no bearing on the outside world, what anyone stands for, or what is and isn't acceptable. Nor does who wins. It isn't real life. People don't need to be 'rewarded', it is an entertainment gameshow and the person that wins the cash prize that goes along with it should be the person who has contributed the most to the series, as they have been one of if not the one who has sustained it throughout. We would not have a show without them.

[Denver]

Eject all the ones who ran after her

[Withano]

Please refer me to the part of the discussion where I contradicted myself?

It isn't illogical, because if you'd paid attention to any of the arguments I'd presented you'd have noticed I kept repeating that housemates who are disliked are better than housemates people have no opinion on since shows like these thrive off of discussion - nobody is going to talk about a housemate that has little impact on anyone. As the saying goes, all publicity is good publicity and it doesn't matter whether people dislike certain housemates, that is a GOOD thing. People love to hate and housemates who incite discussion and opinions are beneficial to the show. Discussion equals attention and attention equals a successful series.

They don't know what they want to watch! You only need to sit back and observe this forum, other forums and social media to see the inevitable go down every series. A housemate that is divisive and domineering is chastised and people demand they are evicted, rinse and repeat for several weeks. These same people then complain the series is boring! It's like turkeys voting for Christmas, the majority of viewers watch the show through a subjective lens caring only about housemates they like as people (which is an entirely different discussion altogether that we won't go near). The problem is that if everybody does that, no one is thinking about the overall quality of the show! The majority of viewers are praising this series and a lot of that has to do with what has gone down, now it's all fine and dandy having opinions on who is right and wrong in arguments etc but once you start wanting people who are involved in the events that you think are making this series so good to be evicted - you are destroying it! You can't have an opinion on future incidents if said housemates aren't there to cause one can you? I'm going off on a tangent here but to add to all of this: there have been instances throughout BBUK's history where ratings have declined when a big character have been evicted, so I'm not making this up. People don't know what is best for the overall quality of the series

Of course I think my opinion trumps all else: it. is. my. ****ing. opinion. I've seen some idiotic things written on here in my eight years of membership but this criticism being bandied around all the time in different threads and to different members really is one of the worst of them all. It isn't much of an opinion if you don't believe it to be correct! It should go without saying that every post I type out on a discussion forum is my own opinion, I don't need to add the pointless 'IMO' to every one of them. The point of a forum is for you to post your opinion and debate with others why you think yours is right and theirs is wrong, otherwise what exactly is the point in us being here if we're all just going to concede 'yeah well that's my opinion and yours is yours so'...we may as well not post them and just keep our views to ourselves? :conf

Telling people that you base your favourites on what people on the show want to watch and then ignoring what people are telling you they want to watch because you genuinely believe that you - personally you - have a better understanding of what they want to watch is completely contradictory to your goal. And also conceited and egotistical.

And yet again your opinion isnt worth more, everyone seems to understand that their is opinion is one of many, you seem to believe your opinion is the best one of all. And thats just dumb dude.

All your points on this thread were dumb, I dunno how to explain this to a guy who think only his opinions are important cus theyre his opinions...

maybe type less and read more.

[Jack_]

Telling people that you base your favourites on what people on the show want to watch and then ignoring what people are telling you they want to watch because you genuinely believe that you - personally you - have a better understanding of what they want to watch is completely contradictory to your goal. And also conceited and egotistical.

And yet again your opinion isnt worth more, everyone seems to understand that their is opinion is one of many, you seem to believe your opinion is the best one of all. And thats just dumb dude.

All your points on this thread were dumb, I dunno how to explain this to a guy who think only his opinions are important cus theyre his opinions...

maybe type less and read more.

So are you just going to bypass and ignore the fact that there are people who demand certain housemates are evicted and then complain it's boring? Or how about ratings declining throughout BBUK history when certain big characters have been evicted? It would be contradictory if I believed the majority of viewers knew what they wanted to watch - but for the umpteenth time, I don't. And the evidence justifies my stance. So for the last time, whether people are actively conscious of it or not, they enjoy watching divisive housemates because they provoke a reaction out of them and get them talking about and interested in the show. Does this apply to every single viewer ever? No, but for the casuals it certainly does.

Err...when have I ever stated my opinion isn't one of many? Now you are putting words into my mouth. I am literally posting on a forum full of hundreds of members of differing opinions - of course my opinion is one of many. But like the majority of sane people, I believe my opinion to be correct, and I post on this forum to debate with others why I believe that to be the case. Because, shock horror - that is the point of a forum! If you don't think your opinion is right, or aren't interested in debating the merits of yours and the downfalls of someone else's - may I politely suggest that maybe a forum isn't really your thing? Because I think you're missing the point of them.

All of my points were valid and justified, the only dumb responses in this discussion have come from you because you're refusing to address things that I raise, making me repeat myself and then asking the same questions over and over again.

Once again you've basically ignored the points I raise, chose not to address them and instead resorted to insulting me. Perhaps you should both type and read more - it's hysterical that you're accusing me of not doing that when you've ignored half of the things I've repeated ad nauseam in this thread. Oh and as a side note, I'll type as much as I see fit - if you are incapable of or unwilling to partake in reading comprehension that's your choice - but again perhaps a forum isn't the best place for you.

[erinp5]

'I had to evacuate' Big Brother's Emma on why she REALLY walked out http://shr.gs/kCACCpV

[azi]

:( She started to grow on me.
It's all because of Jackson :fist:

[rebecca9]

Thank god. Couldn't stand listening to her talk about negative energy any longer.

[Captain.Remy]

k bye. who cared about her anyway?

[Withano]

Ironic youre discussing comprehension when youre completely unwilling to acknowledge others opinions because you think theyre worse less than yours.

I only ignore the assumptions you make which can not be proven or disproven by either one of us because thats a waste of time.

im not about to waste any more of my time goig round in circles with you, just tone down your ego a bit.

[susie q]

Cant say that I am bothered about her, thought she was quite self centred.

[Jack_]

Ironic youre discussing comprehension when youre completely unwilling to acknowledge others opinions because you think theyre worse less than yours.

I only ignore the assumptions you make which can not be proven or disproven by either one of us because thats a waste of time.

im not about to waste any more of my time goig round in circles with you, just tone down your ego a bit.

So unwilling to acknowledge other people's opinions that in my first reply to you in this thread I said I do just that (again you need to read threads properly), and every post subsequent to it has been me trying to engage in a debate as to why I don't agree with those opinions :rolleyes:

Well technically I could probably prove both of them - I could definitely search around for ratings decreases although it would take a while, and I could guarantee I'd find posts on here from previous series of people who wanted certain housemates evicted and then later complained it's boring. Can you justify whatever stance you actually have (cause you've failed to engage in any debate here) with evidence? I doubt it

If I have an ego for having conviction in my opinion and believing it's right then so must 99% of this forum and the people on any discussion board on the entirety of the internet, but you know that already babe :)

[Strictly Jake]

Nooo! Is this true?!! I really liked her!! But to be fair she has no chance of making the final! But She was in my top 3 housemates!

[erinp5]

Emma's final words
https://twitter.com/bbuk/status/751158309902688256

[joeysteele]

I am glad BBs patience run out with Emma.
I think she was pleased anyway, after her Boyfriend being in, I think she wanted out really.

[Vicky.]

Maybe this will stop the idiots doing it all the ****ing time now.

[Spoon]

I'm declaring today a national day of mourning, we will never forget Emma!

who? :conf:

[Spoon]

Emma's final words
https://twitter.com/bbuk/status/751158309902688256

"I am regrateful"

:joker:

[Headie]

However speaking this evening during a phone press conference after her exit, Emma claimed she wanted to get out anyway.

"They say they removed me from the house, but I definitely escaped with the intention of getting the hell out of that house," she told media. "When I escaped, I was so excited and thrilled at the thought of freedom that I did not want to go back to the house.

"And so I'm more than happy and so, so excited that I've actually been removed finally after 32 days."

Emma, who teased she had originally planned to escape with boyfriend Josh, had entered the series last month with twin sister Victoria who left in the first week after also escaping out of the house.

From Tellymix

[Jordan.]

I do believe she genuinely wanted to go unlike the others who have done it for attention

[Jordan.]

Saying they "ejected" her will get more media attention than saying she walked

[Maru]

I'll answer that one for you: none at all. Big Brother is trash television airing on a trash television channel. Anyone seriously looking towards it for moral guidance as if it's culturally relevant needs to reassess their priorities.

Big Brother is not a charity, nor is it a morality competition. What happens inside the confines of a glorified television set - the content of which we watch for 48 minutes a night - has no bearing on the outside world, what anyone stands for, or what is and isn't acceptable. Nor does who wins. It isn't real life. People don't need to be 'rewarded', it is an entertainment gameshow and the person that wins the cash prize that goes along with it should be the person who has contributed the most to the series, as they have been one of if not the one who has sustained it throughout. We would not have a show without them.

I really think many people watch for different reasons than you. That said, Big Brother is a personality contest at core. People are going to vote out the personalities they want to see go the most. The game you're talking about is more agnostic and simply can't exist in a VTE situation.

I also think some people, perhaps yourself, overestimate the power of this forum here as being closely representative of the voting public. We are more effective at popularizing the show rather than taking it down by ****ty reasoning by way of votes especially with forums being niche these days. Truthfully, most voters are probably unconnected and limited to a shorter range social media (things like Twitter, FB, etc). This is why when we poll the public in elections, we have to be careful how we screen them through questions because the reasons people vote are myriad.

I agree with you in general that voting out all the characters so early on does limit the amount of controversy in that household, therefore making it easier for certain characters to coast to the final. I usually prefer VTS in CBB for that very reason. With exception to Marco (he was a 24/7 freakshow, sorry, not a character at all 100% rancid sewer water). I did not like seeing Natalie and Georgina go so soon. I'm just one voice out of many though and can't vote since I'm out of country.

[tanussa]

its so blatantly obvious they are looking for excuses to lose some of the HMs, emma didnt deserve to be booted out

[Ammi]

..I'm sad that she's gone but it showed to me that she really isn't a selfish person at all, but just did something for herself in the house/acted on her emotions that one time and then was made to feel really bad about it..:sad:...anyways though, I think that she would have gone anyway and maybe wasn't so much what Jackson was saying but more that her boyfriend coming in had unsettled her and made it harder and she obviously wanted to be with him...it's not always a good thing and the 'treat' that Jackson may think to spend time with your loved ones in there, I don't think....he really is a little clueless with stuff like that...

[Jamie89]

..I'm sad that she's gone but it showed to me that she really isn't a selfish person at all, but just did something for herself in the house/acted on her emotions that one time and then was made to feel really bad about it..:sad:...anyways though, I think that she would have gone anyway and maybe wasn't so much what Jackson was saying but more that her boyfriend coming in had unsettled her and made it harder and she obviously wanted to be with him...it's not always a good thing and the 'treat' that Jackson may think to spend time with your loved ones in there, I don't think....he really is a little clueless with stuff like that...

I agree with all of this, but especially the part I've highlighted, because I really feel that ever since she pressed the buzzer she's been labelled as a selfish person, but committing a selfish act doesn't make you a selfish person. I think everyone at some time or another has done something selfish, and I'd wonder if any of the people labeling Emma as a selfish person have ever done anything selfish themselves. It's just a normal human thing that anyone can succumb to, but especially in extreme situations, and for Emma, being in the house and being separated from people she loved was an extreme situation, I mean she went in the house with the person she was closest too and even she'd left, and I don't think anyone is really going to understand how that might feel, or what kind of impact it will have on someone's experience, it kind of makes Emma's experience of being separated from loved ones unique, and the continued animosity towards her showed that they weren't going to understand how she felt, and the thought of being continuously reminded of the people she was separated from was too much, rather than her escape simply being a reaction to being called names as some people have suggested. That's my take on it anyway.

[Ammi]

I agree with all of this, but especially the part I've highlighted, because I really feel that ever since she pressed the buzzer she's been labelled as a selfish person, but committing a selfish act doesn't make you a selfish person. I think everyone at some time or another has done something selfish, and I'd wonder if any of the people labeling Emma as a selfish person have ever done anything selfish themselves. It's just a normal human thing that anyone can succumb to, but especially in extreme situations, and for Emma, being in the house and being separated from people she loved was an extreme situation, I mean she went in the house with the person she was closest too and even she'd left, and I don't think anyone is really going to understand how that might feel, or what kind of impact it will have on someone's experience, it kind of makes Emma's experience of being separated from loved ones unique, and the continued animosity towards her showed that they weren't going to understand how she felt, and the thought of being continuously reminded of the people she was separated from was too much, rather than her escape simply being a reaction to being called names as some people have suggested. That's my take on it anyway.


..yeah I think also Jamie, that pressing the buzzer the second time was quite telling ..(..as it was quite contradictory to her character as we've seen..)...as to how much the visit had unsettled her and had ended up being not the 'treat' at all in terms of her carrying on her time in the house from there on in...in fairness to Jackson though, although his words may have been a huge part of it happening right at that moment in time, I do feel that it was an inevitable anyway in her heart and he only prompted or helped prompt what her emotions were saying and would have always said and guided her...she had experienced the positive and love vibe again and there was no going back for her from that...(I think the right decision for her personally and I think she was only in there for personal reasons so all is good..)...

[Guuki]

Whoa, I'm watching yesterday's episode and I'm like WHAT? How Big Brother could be so cruel to her? :D
She was one of my favourites. What a lost!

[Chero]

Well, really, I think they ejected her because they thought she was boring, and it made a convenient excuse.

[Ellen]

If she wanted to leave why did she not do it properly in the DR? The reason she didnt is she new she would be up for eviction and didnt want to face the crowd.

[Daniel-X]

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/267794-big-brother-2016-now-ryan-ruckledge-escapes-house.html

So if Ryan breaks out again he'll be ejected?

Of course not he's Ryan! Their favourite alongside Hughie! If anything he'd probably get thrown in a Bedsit with special treatment cos producers would fear loosing their prized housemate.

[Ashley.]

She got ejected for walking. :laugh:

[reece(:]

She got ejected for walking. :laugh:

Dawn BB7 teas

[hot2go]

:( She started to grow on me.
It's all because of Jackson :fist:

Well done Jackson.....he said it was game on when the three girls used him to get his Mrs evicted...one down two to go I reckon....he has no reason to be upset about Emma going