'If we cant be together on the Outside...'

[GiRTh]

We can never be together in here'

Or whatever it was he said.

That has to be the worse acting I've ever seen from a Hm during nomination. And Charlie didnt nominate him,.

How can anyone sympahise with this clear game player. Get him out!!!!!!

[hijaxers]

We can never be together in here'

Or whatever it was he said.

That has to be the worse acting I've ever seen from a Hm during nomination. And Charlie didnt nominate him,.

How can anyone sympahise with this clear game player. Get him out!!!!!!

I just think he's totally bewildered by Charlie and also he's had enough, she's ruined his time so far in there , she's played a nasty game and never had any intentions of nomming him - she wanted to make everyone else do it for her cos that's what a nasty bitch she is. Can't wait to see Emma shred her.

[GiRTh]

I just think he's totally bewildered by Charlie and also he's had enough, she's ruined his time so far in there , she's played a nasty game and never had any intentions of nomming him - she wanted to make everyone else do it for her cos that's what a nasty bitch she is. Can't wait to see Emma shred her.Dont agree she's nasty or bitchy. I think she is equally bewildered by the situtaion.

[Maru]

I don't feel like Jason is himself with her in the house tbf

[Headie]

Sadly he seems to be the catladies fave, I still think he's gonna win, not Alex or Jackson

[Vanessa]

Sadly he seems to be the catladies fave, I still think he's gonna win, not Alex or Jackson

Would love to see him win :hee:

[Garfie]

I don't trust him at all- I feel there is something insincere and untrustworthy about him and I think he is playing a big game. To me he seems to be trying to manipulate the housemates and the audience into feeling sorry for him too much of the time.

[Lister of Smeg]

Charlie is her own worst enemy just when she starts to build up simpify she goes and says I want him to put a baby in me a comment so weird it gave Jayne pause.

[GiRTh]

If she goes on Friday she will be devastated to learn he nominated her while she didnt nominate him. That will be the first time he's been totally clear with her since they went in. She will need to be evicted to finally find out how over it really is. Yet people see him as the victim in the relationship. :shrug:

[Garfie]

If she goes on Friday she will be devastated to learn he nominated her while she didnt nominate him. That will be the first time he's been totally clear with her since they went in. She will need to be evicted to finally find out how over it really is. Yet people see him as the victim in the relationship. :shrug:

:clap1: Really good point. Why aren't more people seeing this!?

[Garfie]

Agree. Tonight Jason even said that TIMING WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR THEIR BREAKUP. :facepalm: That's just going to give her more hope that now it's a different time, they have a shot! They could of moved on a long time ago if it weren't for these silly glimmer of hope sentences he dishes out.

Yes! exactly! But, of course, he's just being a really nice, considerate man- NOT!

[Klingonz]

If she goes on Friday she will be devastated to learn he nominated her while she didnt nominate him.

She did have not to vote him, she knew that she has getting others to vote against Jason. Making her look "better". She is quite clever and manipulative person. Real snake. Stalker.

[Kazanne]

This thread is hilarious,lol,lol. What exactly has Jason done wrong?

[Klingonz]

This thread is hilarious,lol,lol. What exactly has Jason done wrong?

:clap1:

[Drew.]

This thread is hilarious,lol,lol. What exactly has Jason done wrong?

Absolutely nothing. The hm's have fallen for Charlies lies and it's spread onto here, shes poisonous

[Kazanne]

So come on What has Jason done wrong?

[Garfie]

Absolutely nothing. The hm's have fallen for Charlies lies and it's spread onto here, shes poisonous

Or they've fallen for his......?

[Kazanne]

Or they've fallen for his......?

Nowt to fall for she wants him he doesn't want her,she admitted she was vile to him,what more do you want ?

[Kazanne]

Anyway WHAT has Jason done wrong ? lol

[puzzled]

She obviously annoys him no end. He never should have come up with this we can be friends on the outside, and discuss this then nonsense. With someone like her, you have to make it clear that there's no hope in hell of getting together, not as friends, nor anything else. I don't blame him, though, it was a very tough decision, being scrutinised by the public, under the glare of the cameras. It's hard to deal with someone so obsessed that they don't pick up the cues normal people would.

[jaxie]

Sadly he seems to be the catladies fave, I still think he's gonna win, not Alex or Jackson

!!

[Kazanne]

So is anyone going to explain what he has done wrong,LOL, I'm going to be here all night aren't I :-)

[Klingonz]

So is anyone going to explain what he has done wrong,LOL, I'm going to be here all night aren't I :-)

But Jayne said....

[Kazanne]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1158287/tumbleweed-o.gif
Well goodnight,you might think of something before morning:wavey::laugh:

[Maru]

I don't trust him at all- I feel there is something insincere and untrustworthy about him and I think he is playing a big game. To me he seems to be trying to manipulate the housemates and the audience into feeling sorry for him too much of the time.

I think Jason is a bit of a game player, but not to that extent. I know a few here have mentioned the same sentiment but I just don't see how that is attractive to the public, especially for a male to be playing a victim in such a constant manner? It's not an attractive narrative for a male I think? He's not super charming or outgoing like some of the other males. He doesn't really have a story. Even the "story" between him and Charlie is miniscule because there are really no details being given and it's lot of he said/she said **** which still gives us no idea how their relationship was even like. I like him but I don't see that putting forth a good vibe to the public. If he's playing a game to extent as you say, it's a very boring one.

Personally, I think at best he wants to walk out of this with at least his nuts still intact and to feel like he did well at least by his own effort(s)... I actually think he is really naive and I've met men who are very similar, very wooden and very incapable of explaining themselves and being themselves around challenging women. (or most women) I think I wrote once I thought maybe they came from a codependent relationship which would explain a lot.

Either way, definitely one of the more boring characters in there, even if I do quite like him.

[hot2go]

I don't trust him at all- I feel there is something insincere and untrustworthy about him and I think he is playing a big game. To me he seems to be trying to manipulate the housemates and the audience into feeling sorry for him too much of the time.

But is that just some peoples perception, are there any tangible examples to back up the theory some people have that he's untrustworthy and insincere.....there's many examples that Charlie is and not just against Jason but I've seen anything that proves that Jason is.

[GiRTh]

So come on What has Jason done wrong?
Off the top of my head; theres nominating her after saying he had her back .:shrug:

[Maru]

Absolutely nothing. The hm's have fallen for Charlies lies and it's spread onto here, shes poisonous

I think it's even simpler than that. He's a man and she's an advertisement of his ability to love. Charlie's current state is the product of their love and therefore it's all Jason's fault that she is in such dire shape since it was his "doing" that left her there. Classic damsel in distress. I don't personally believe but many people are going to side-eye and wonder if he has failed his responsibilities and if there is a lot than what meets the eye... even though Charlie is not really his responsibility anymore. (he missed that memo though)

Charlie should've been told to own her baggage. Day 1. All that time he spends asking questions like Is it OK? Are you OK? Is that OK IF... when blah blah and blah when we get out etc etc, he digs a deeper hole to climb out of. Should've just been given her the hard truth upfront, explained his reasoning and then leave her be. The DR is plenty available for him to speak his part... it's not her business anyway how he feels anymore, but he keeps making his business her business every time he needs to be validated for his part in things. I'm guessing whatever relationship they had is in tatters now and what you see is what you get. Imo, it was likely very codependent and probably very toxic for the both of them after a while and the relationship itself stopped being tenable and illogical to continue while their heart(s) were still very much in it and had not yet reconciled with reality.

Charlie in her VT said she is very selfish in relationships so she's owned a lot of her portion with that admission as far as I'm concerned. All he had to do was say he was owning his, he was sorry and no I will not marry you and please it's over 100%, please move on... The fact she's a piece of work now after the fact can have nothing to do with him when he's owned 100% of his part and said to move on.

Many people neglect that last part in breakups which is where I think many people have messy breakups and squabbles before they're able to properly move on. I would argue he's done enough to cater to her but he is the one who is not able to let things go and as long as he's like that, she's going to hold onto every shred of it and treat it like there is still hope.

[GiRTh]

Its not that Jason has done anything its wrong its the way he 's acting with her. He needs to tell her straight, something that no one can claim he has done while in the house, nominating her confirms that.

That way he acted so torn up about nominating her did not convince me at all. He wants her out cuz she makes him look bad because he doesn't know how to handle the feeling she has for him.

[hot2go]

Off the top of my head; theres nominating her after saying he had her back .:shrug:

That's not bad, he has had her back and he didn't nominate her for weeks....noms is part of the game and she pushes and pushes ....him nominating her is completly the right thing to do.

[GiRTh]

That's not bad, he has had her back and he didn't nominate her for weeks....noms is part of the game and she pushes and pushes ....him nominating her is completly the right thing to do.Not after saying he had her back. As I say earlier when she finds out he nominated her that will be first time she finds out his true feelings.

[hot2go]

Not after saying he had her back. As I say earlier when she finds out he nominated her that will be first time she finds out his true feelings.

If she thinks he wouldn't nominate her then she's even more stupid than I thought....what person in their right mind in his situation would try to keep her in ? Her admitting she treats men like crap doesn't make it ok that it happened and entitle her automatically to a second chance. That is up to him not her. She spent first two weeks in the Others house repeatedly saying she treated him like crap and pushed him away...shifting the blame to him now is obv not true.

[the truth]

she is evil

[Shaun]

I don't think it takes a drastic tumble in integrity/character to get rid of the person who you've made it clear 200 times that you don't want to be in a relationship with as she spread stories about you cheating.

Like, I get that the whole "blame the woman" edit has been overdone on this show in the past but it's quite abundantly clear here that she's the one who can't move on and is dragging the atmosphere down. I'm bored of their awkward glances and the tears, and honestly this is why no couples should be cast whatsoever. That and the fact THEY'LL NEVER TOP MARIO & LISA.

I do like both of them individually and whilst they were separated they were great but he's become as one-note as she has recently and if one of them should be evicted, it should be the one that's causing the constant negativity.

[jennyjuniper]

I don't trust him at all- I feel there is something insincere and untrustworthy about him and I think he is playing a big game. To me he seems to be trying to manipulate the housemates and the audience into feeling sorry for him too much of the time.

I think you mean Charlie. She deliberatly antagonises Jason, acts as though he's said something awful to her (when he hasn't) and runs away crying. Thus making the housemates feel sorry for her and hopefully (in her deluded whackjob of a mind) make the public feel sorry for her.:fist:

[jennyjuniper]

Agree. Tonight Jason even said that TIMING WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR THEIR BREAKUP. :facepalm: That's just going to give her more hope that now it's a different time, they have a shot! They could of moved on a long time ago if it weren't for these silly glimmer of hope sentences he dishes out.

I'm so sick of hearing about these 'glimmer of hope' messages Jason is supposed to have given her.
On the very first night she came into the house she said to him 'I just want to know where this relationship is going' and Jason reoplied
THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP. How could any sane person find a glimmer of hope in that?:crazy::facepalm:

[Kazanne]

Off the top of my head; theres nominating her after saying he had her back .:shrug:

:laugh:But how was that wrong ?,he owes her nothing,I am sure you wouldn't have brought that up had she nommed him.and that doesn't take away from him 'having her back' his nomination made a lot of sense and if she was a rational thinking person she would get why he nommed her,so is that it then,he nommed her? shall I set up the gallows:hee:

[sampvt]

I don't think it takes a drastic tumble in integrity/character to get rid of the person who you've made it clear 200 times that you don't want to be in a relationship with as she spread stories about you cheating.

Like, I get that the whole "blame the woman" edit has been overdone on this show in the past but it's quite abundantly clear here that she's the one who can't move on and is dragging the atmosphere down. I'm bored of their awkward glances and the tears, and honestly this is why no couples should be cast whatsoever. That and the fact THEY'LL NEVER TOP MARIO & LISA.

I do like both of them individually and whilst they were separated they were great but he's become as one-note as she has recently and if one of them should be evicted, it should be the one that's causing the constant negativity.

Is that the Mario with a police record for violence against women and Lisa the dole scrounger who pissed everything up against the wall. Great role models im sure.

[Kazanne]

Jason comes across like a phoney at times. He's forever contradicting himself and is inconsistent. For someone who tried to get rid of her, he spent an awful amount of time bad-mouthing her in week 1. That already showed his character. 'Real men' don't bitch about their exes to people they've barely met.

No one spoke badly about their exes and in detail but Jason. Charlie only started to talk about him negatively once she saw his audition tape.

When Chelsea went to the secret house he said that Jason had been speaking badly about her in the main house. Confirmation that Jason made a point whine and moan about Charlie.

How has Jason bad mouthed Charlie ? All I heard Jason say was that the relationship wasn't good and she kicked his dog :shrug: he has NEVER gone into detail about their relationship,that is why we are left wondering what actually happened,you need to take the Charlie rose tinted glasses off.

[hijaxers]

But is that just some peoples perception, are there any tangible examples to back up the theory some people have that he's untrustworthy and insincere.....there's many examples that Charlie is and not just against Jason but I've seen anything that proves that Jason is.

Exactly, she's admitted to treating him dreadful the whole time they were seeing each other and to being a serial cheat , so she's used to being a good liar .Maybe Jayne could give her a job when they get out :joker:

[jennyjuniper]

Off the top of my head; theres nominating her after saying he had her back .:shrug:

Yes but that was before she stuck several knives in Jason's back. I meant that figuratively, although I wouldn't put it past the mad bitch to do it for real.

[Kazanne]

Yes but that was before she stuck several knives in Jason's back. I meant that figuratively, although I wouldn't put it past the mad bitch to do it for real.

Well said Jenny,if she is out tonight you can imagine the venom she will spit.

[Cherie]

The two of them are trying to fool the public, they will be back together when they get out, if they don't win at least they will have the reunion mag deal

[chuff me dizzy]

Charlie didn't nominate him,but made sure her 2 sponges Jayne and Lateshiaeaiai did ,sly,sneaky

[Kazanne]

The two of them are trying to fool the public, they will be back together when they get out, if they don't win at least they will have the reunion mag deal

I really don't think so Cherie,do you really think they have planned all this?

[hot2go]

Not after saying he had her back. As I say earlier when she finds out he nominated her that will be first time she finds out his true feelings.

When he said he had her back at the beginning it was before he found out she'd stabbed him in his.....before she told the house he was a game player, before she told the world he was a cheat, before she talked about their sex life, before she gave him three weeks of hell and destroyed his time in the house.

Him nominating her after saying he wouldn't isn't because he's untrustworthy it's because she is.

They agreed to have each other's back and she broke the deal.

[chuff me dizzy]

When he said he had her back at the beginning it was before he found out she'd stabbed him in his.....before she told the house he was a game player, before she told the world he was a cheat, before she talked about their sex life, before she gave him three weeks of hell and destroyed his time in the house.

Him nominating her after saying he wouldn't isn't because he's untrustworthy it's because she is.

They agreed to have each other's back and she broke the deal.

:clap1:

[hot2go]

Charlie didn't nominate him,but made sure her 2 sponges Jayne and Lateshiaeaiai did ,sly,sneaky

Oh bang on the nail....:clap1::clap1:

The most passive aggressive person to ever be on the show. " You can't accuse me because I never "

[y.winter]

Jason is not even approaching her. She's the one who always want him to cuddle her, hug her, understand her, love her, fancy her, give her a chance, look at her. She's the initiator of 99% of their interactions.
He had the right to nominate her and I'm glad he did. Game playing would have been not nominating her because the public wouldn't see it in a nice way.
She's a parasite and needs to move on. This is not love.