jason gives his reasons for evicting Ryan vid

[erinp5]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/jason-gives-his-reasons-evicting-ryan-day-39

How about Feck off Hughie

[Cherie]

No Hughie has every right to ask Jason's reasons particularly due to what he said

[*mazedsalv**]

Tbh Hughie has a right to ask why because the Jason reasoning was very heavy. Whether he was right or not, Hughie (and us) haven't heard the derogatory terms Ryan has used.

I want to know more to be fair.

[Cherie]

Tbh Hughie has a right to ask why because the Jason reasoning was very heavy. Whether he was right or not, Hughie (and us) haven't heard the derogatory terms Ryan has used.

I want to know more to be fair.

If Hughie didn't address it he would be accused of being fake and not caring..he can't win whatever he does in some eyes :laugh:

[erinp5]

Tbh Hughie has a right to ask why because the Jason reasoning was very heavy. Whether he was right or not, Hughie (and us) haven't heard the derogatory terms Ryan has used.

I want to know more to be fair.

BB edit what we see but Ryan proved Jason had a point in his interview with Emma .

[Amy Jade]

Why wouldn't Hughie ask?

Most of the forum were puzzled at his reasons so it's likely housemates will be too.

[Lostie!]

"I'll shake your hand but I don't want us to talk from now on"

Oh **** off you silly prat.

[Time]

He evicted Lateysha, surely it was to be expected..

[Babayaro.]

"I'll shake your hand but I don't want us to talk from now on"

Oh **** off you silly prat.

Who said that? I cba watching the video

[Amy Jade]

BB edit what we see but Ryan proved Jason had a point in his interview with Emma .

Oh please that comment wasn't even mean spirited from Ryan

[Lostie!]

Who said that? I cba watching the video

Hughie to Jason at the end. Jason offered his hand and that was his response.

[Cherie]

Hughie to Jason at the end. Jason offered his hand and that was his response.

So? Would you want to be besties with someone who evicted your mate :umm2:

[Cherie]

BB edit what we see but Ryan proved Jason had a point in his interview with Emma .


It was a quip jeez sense of humour failure

[Amy Jade]

Andy and Jason refused to say goodbye to Lateysha or even be in the same room as she said her goodbyes.

Hughie actually shakes Jason's hand and he's the bad guy :laugh2:

[Cherie]

Andy and Jason refused to say goodbye to Lateysha or even be in the same room as she said her goodbyes.

Hughie actually shakes Jason's hand and he's the bad guy :laugh2:

:joker:

[Kazanne]

So? Would you want to be besties with someone who evicted your mate :umm2:

Why are people blaming Jason again for this vote .Ryan got FOUR votes

[erinp5]

Andy and Jason refused to say goodbye to Lateysha or even be in the same room as she said her goodbyes.

Hughie actually shakes Jason's hand and he's the bad guy :laugh2:


He is also still in the house and doesn't want to be nominated .

[Cherie]

Why are people blaming Jason again for this vote .Ryan got FOUR votes

I'm not blaming Jason at all, I am responding to the comment about Hughie shaking his hand

[Visage]

Why are people blaming Jason again for this vote .Ryan got FOUR votes


Gosh!!!


The blame Jason/Andy culture has jumped out of the house and made it to TiBB

[rusticgal]

Hughie to Jason at the end. Jason offered his hand and that was his response.


The week just gets better and better for our Jason...Charli evicted...Lateysha and Ryan gone...and now Hughie isn't going to talk to him anymore. :cheer2:

[Missunique]

Jason doesn't seem that worried its not like he hangs out with Hughie.

[Cherie]

Gosh!!!


The blame Jason/Andy culture has jumped out of the house and made it to TiBB

:umm2: this thread is about Jasons reasons for nominating nothing else

[Amy Jade]

Why are people blaming Jason again for this vote .Ryan got FOUR votes

Nobody has in this thread as far as I can see, I'm personally glad he went - there was another thread piling all the credit on Jason but not this one

[Cherie]

He is also still in the house and doesn't want to be nominated .

Nobody wants to be nominated

[Lostie!]

That's kind of what you pmed me tho

You really do have the maturity of a 12 year old, don't you? I'm embarrassed on your behalf.

But for the record, no it isn't. Since you feel the need to bring entirely irrelevant issues up here, as you well know (or should if you have a semblance of basic intelligence), I merely wanted to let you know (via PM because we're not all attention seeking messes) that I was disappointed that you could so readily turn on someone who'd always gotten along with you and given you benefit of the doubt time after time just because we held differing opinions on a ****ing reality show and I'd rather we just stay out of each others way in future (something I've clearly been managing a lot better than you). At no point was an olive branch offered by you which I passive aggressively rebuffed, which is what I'm taking issue with in Hughie's case.

Hope there's not too many words there for you to comprehend. :)

So? Would you want to be besties with someone who evicted your mate :umm2:

Who said they should be besties? I don't recall that.

[Amy Jade]

You really do have the maturity of a 12 year old, don't you? I'm embarrassed on your behalf.

But for the record, no it isn't. Since you feel the need to bring entirely irrelevant issues up here, as you well know (or should if you have a semblance of basic intelligence), I merely wanted to let you know (via PM because we're not all attention seeking messes) that I was disappointed that you could so readily turn on someone who'd always gotten along with you and given you benefit of the doubt time after time just because we held differing opinions on a ****ing reality show and I'd rather we just stay out of each others way in future (something I've clearly been managing a lot better than you). At no point was an olive branch offered by you which I passive aggressively rebuffed, which is what I'm taking issue with in Hughie's case.

Hope there's not too many words there for you to comprehend. :)



Who said they should be besties? I don't recall that.

Eek didn't mean to upset you I just thought it was similar

[Oaker]

oh

[Kazanne]

I'm not blaming Jason at all, I am responding to the comment about Hughie shaking his hand

I wasn't blaming you Cherie,I was asking :shrug:

[Visage]

:umm2: this thread is about Jasons reasons for nominating nothing else

Until you turned it into blaming Jason for evicting Hughie's best mate. :umm2:


Here just in case you had forgotten



So? Would you want to be besties with someone who evicted your mate :umm2:

[rusticgal]

Andy and Jason refused to say goodbye to Lateysha or even be in the same room as she said her goodbyes.

Hughie actually shakes Jason's hand and he's the bad guy :laugh2:


Lateysha didn't want to talk to Jason...let alone give him a hug and say goodbye.
They both knew she wouldn't have entertained it....
If Jason's just evicted her he is hardly going to rub salt in the wound and give her a fond cheerio!!....

...it's a silly statement to make...almost as stupid as Hughie saying he won't speak to him again...just watch he will be talking to him tomorrow. Hughie just being immature again. He needs to grow up...is he the only one allowed to have an opinion?...

[Cherie]

Until you turned it into blaming Jason for evicting Hughie's best mate. :umm2:


Here just in case you had forgotten

No once again I reiterate It was the reason given for the nomination and if you want to split hairs he was 25 per cent responsible for evicting Ryan, and his reason was quite sour

[erinp5]

The week just gets better and better for our Jason...Charli evicted...Lateysha and Ryan gone...and now Hughie isn't going to talk to him anymore. :cheer2:

well it was Annihilation Week so Jason annihilated :cheer2:

[Cherie]

I wasn't blaming you Cherie,I was asking :shrug:

Oop welp etc misunderstood :wavey: xx

[Visage]

No once again I reiterate It was the reason given for the nomination and if you want to split hairs he was 25 per cent responsible for evicting Ryan, and his reason was quite sour

It's not about splitting hairs, but at least you got the point.



There seems to be this thing where everything is Jason's fault. 4 people chose to evict Ryan and yet it's Jason everyone seems to be blaming.

You're right about the thread being about Jason's reasoning, however as discussion flows so does the conversation, pretty similar to real life conversations.

When you mentioned Jason evicting his best mate it starts a whole new angle to the conversation because Jason didn't evict Hughie on his own.


That's all I'm saying.


Now if you want to ask me what I think about Jason's reasoning, I will be honest and say I don't know what he was referring to with the derogatory comments.

I would have been happy to hear Jason say I want him out because he's too overbearing, but that's my reason and I'm not in the house. I don't know (or can't remember) what the derogatory comments there were.

[Cherie]

Ps I think Ryan leaving is great for Hughie :D:

[Kazanne]

It's not about splitting hairs, but at least you got the point.



There seems to be this thing where everything is Jason's fault. 4 people chose to evict Ryan and yet it's Jason everyone seems to be blaming.

You're right about the thread being about Jason's reasoning, however as discussion flows so does the conversation, pretty similar to real life conversations.

When you mentioned Jason evicting his best mate it starts a whole new angle to the conversation because Jason didn't evict Hughie on his own.


That's all I'm saying.


Now if you want to ask me what I think about Jason's reasoning, I will be honest and say I don't know what he was referring to with the derogatory comments.

I would have been happy to hear Jason say I want him out because he's too overbearing, but that's my reason and I'm not in the house. I don't know (or can't remember) what the derogatory comments there were.

Emma pulled him up on one of his remarks in his interview Visage.

[Amy Jade]

Visage I don't think people are blaming just Jason but his reasons were the only one that was quite...erm bitey?

I think that's why Hughie was upset, he doesn't understand his reasons I guess

[Visage]

Ps I think Ryan leaving is great for Hughie :D:

Oh yes definitely.

I really like Hughie and i hope he gets to shine this coming week.

[armand.kay]

Jason sealing his fate this week :cheer2:

[Cherie]

It's not about splitting hairs, but at least you got the point.



There seems to be this thing where everything is Jason's fault. 4 people chose to evict Ryan and yet it's Jason everyone seems to be blaming.

You're right about the thread being about Jason's reasoning, however as discussion flows so does the conversation, pretty similar to real life conversations.

When you mentioned Jason evicting his best mate it starts a whole new angle to the conversation because Jason didn't evict Hughie on his own.


That's all I'm saying.


Now if you want to ask me what I think about Jason's reasoning, I will be honest and say I don't know what he was referring to with the derogatory comments.

I would have been happy to hear Jason say I want him out because he's too overbearing, but that's my reason and I'm not in the house. I don't know (or can't remember) what the derogatory comments there were.


Okay maybe my point was misunderstood, But I can see why Hughie was annoyed with Jason as he was confused about the derogatory comments reason, do I think Hughie will stay mad at Jason, no I don't but I can understand why he was annoyed tonight and I applaud him for it because unlike Jacksons fake reaction to Georgina leaving I think Hughie was genuine in wanting to know what Jason meant, they will be back chatting tomorrow

[erinp5]

Jason sealing his fate this week :cheer2:

the public will decide this week.

[Visage]

Emma pulled him up on one of his remarks in his interview Visage.

Thanks

Visage I don't think people are blaming just Jason but his reasons were the only one that was quite...erm bitey?

I think that's why Hughie was upset, he doesn't understand his reasons I guess

I get why the Hughie was angry at Jason.

It just felt that every thread I was opening was all about blaming Jason for evicting Ryan when there were four who chose him.



Maybe I'm opening all the wrong threads :laugh:

[armand.kay]

the public will decide this week.
he's goner :joker: :dance:

[Visage]

Okay maybe my point was misunderstood, But I can see why Hughie was annoyed with Jason as he was confused about the derogatory comments reason, do I think Hughie will stay mad at Jason, no I don't but I can understand why he was annoyed tonight and I applaud him for it because unlike Jacksons fake reaction to Georgina leaving I think Hughie was genuine in wanting to know what Jason meant, they will be back chatting tomorrow

Yes, I agree. I don't think Hughie holds grudges and will likely just get on with the rest of the days that are left.

[Amy Jade]

Thanks



I get why the Hughie was angry at Jason.

It just felt that every thread I was opening was all about blaming Jason for evicting Ryan when there were four who chose him.



Maybe I'm opening all the wrong threads :laugh:

Ohhh okay yeah I get that but honestly if anything tonight I feel like Jason is getting praise more than blame, people seem pleased he picked Ryan, I certainly am!

But then again maybe I'm looking in the wrong threads too :laugh:

[Visage]

Ohhh okay yeah I get that but honestly if anything tonight I feel like Jason is getting praise more than blame

Well yeah, to be fair, I've seen that too.



people seem pleased he picked Ryan, I certainly am!

A win/win all round then :D


I'm pleased because I found him too overbearing, but at the same time I want to see Hughie without having Ryan constantly screaming at him.


But then again maybe I'm looking in the wrong threads too :laugh:

Ha ha!

[Ashley.]

Oh please that comment wasn't even mean spirited from Ryan

But it was derogatory, wasn't it?

[Amy Jade]

Yeah im ready to see Hughie without Ryan, too.

[armand.kay]

I don't think anyone on the forum even cares about ryan being evicted. Most people are relieved that Jayne, Evelyne and Laura somehow survived this week.

[Ammi]

..maybe it's me being dumb but I still don't understand what Jason's reasoning is from the vid.../what Ryan's sexist comments have been, can anyone explain please..?...

[kirklancaster]

The week just gets better and better for our Jason...Charli evicted...Lateysha and Ryan gone...and now Hughie isn't going to talk to him anymore. :cheer2:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[delta]

After thinking Jason was a bit more 'savvy' than your average semi labotomised housemate, it's quite clear he got lucky wih being able to press the button first and come up with a name that made that moment in BB history, rather compelling.


Roll of a few days and he's back to doing what the rest do, not playing the BB game, but reverting back to the norm and how he's been conditioned to think and act. Just because BB are always asking, or demanding,full and frank reasons for your every thought doesn't mean you have to give them that, you can easily give them an alternative that would satisfy them and still keep your enemies appeased.

Problem is they all want to be liked and to be seen to be doing the right thing. It's a difficult one as the producers of this program do not know what they are doing, it's a clusterfcukk of ideas, for all the while HM's are grassed up in the diary room to other housemates, for all the while it swings from one format to another, for all the while it interferes with the process, then we are never going to get the program we deserve, and the players don't know whether it's a popularity contest or Machiavellian game,were only the strong survive.

[kirklancaster]

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

[kirklancaster]

After thinking Jason was a bit more 'savvy' than your average semi labotomised housemate, it's quite clear he got lucky wih being able to press the button first and come up with a name that made that moment in BB history, rather compelling.


Roll of a few days and he's back to doing what the rest do, not playing the BB game, but reverting back to the norm and how he's been conditioned to think and act. Just because BB are always asking, or demanding,full and frank reasons for your every thought doesn't mean you have to give them that, you can easily give them an alternative that would satisfy them and still keep your enemies appeased.

Problem is they all want to be liked and to be seen to be doing the right thing. It's a difficult one as the producers of this program do not know what they are doing, it's a clusterfcukk of ideas, for all the while HM's are grassed up in the diary room to other housemates, for all the while it swings from one format to another, for all the while it interferes with the process, then we are never going to get the program we deserve, and the players don't know whether it's a popularity contest or Machiavellian game,were only the strong survive.

Great post Delta :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[letmein]

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

Jason can't even spell tactician.

[Ammi]

...is he saying that things Ryan has said haven't showed any respect to any partners he has had/romantically/sexually...why does that show sexism to females though...and him saying 'because of my size/build etc if I said things like that...' sounds more talking about 'intimidation' rather than sexist stuff so is he saying that Ryan's behaviour in the house has been intimidating.../still confused..:laugh:..

[Ammi]

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.



....hmmmm, I don't think that's fair though Kirk...that it's 'irrational blaming' because surely it's just questioning his reason, which doesn't make sense to us as viewers and then quite silly not to expand on that reason when that was the very time..(having given a very specific reason..)...to expand on it...there couldn't be more 'the time' to expand so it felt that his 'reason' was thrown in without substance or foundation for it...I think that the actual voting of Ryan was an obvious and understandable one for him though....but I do think it's equally obvious and understandable that his reasons should be questioned ...

[kirklancaster]

Jason can't even spell tactician.

:crazy:

Let me see;

Jason:

Self-Made very Wealthy entrepeneur.
Owns a boutique
Owns a Beauty Salon.
Is a succesful Property Developer.
Drives an Aston Martin.
Has a career in films as a body double
Has a career in films as a stunt man
Has co-starred in films.

Rat Boy

Failed wannabe singer
Kicked off the X-Factor for drunken antics in the pool and other anti-social behaviour
Described by Simon Cowell as "a horror of a human being" and "a nightmare".
Is such an airhead that he undergoes tanning injections three times a week and uses sunbeds SIX times a week.
Says of himself: "I am gobby, I just love attention, and drama tends to follow me, I'm painful."

I will have a wager with you that Jason has a far higher IQ than Rat Boy, is far more knowledgeable, and is far more intelligent than him.

He is most certainly a far NICER human being and far more relevant.

[kirklancaster]

....hmmmm, I don't think that's fair though Kirk...that it's 'irrational blaming' because surely it's just questioning his reason, which doesn't make sense to us as viewers and then quite silly not to expand on that reason when that was the very time..(having given a very specific reason..)...to expand on it...there couldn't be more 'the time' to expand so it felt that his 'reason' was thrown in without substance or foundation for it...I think that the actual voting of Ryan was an obvious and understandable one for him though....but I do think it's equally obvious and understandable that his reasons should be questioned ...

BB does not screen everything though Ammi, but they do not have to, because Jason has all the reasons he needs to vote to evict the obnoxious little turd that is Ryan, from just what HAS been screened.

In my opinion, of course.

[Ammi]

BB does not screen everything though Ammi, but they do not have to, because Jason has all the reasons he needs to vote to evict the obnoxious little turd that is Ryan, from just what HAS been screened.

In my opinion, of course.

..yeah, that's what I meant though Captain Kirk sir...it made total sense for Jason to vote him...it made total sense for anyone and everyone to have voted him..:laugh:...but it's not irrational to question/be confused etc for something that we haven't been shown that's been given as the reason...it's totally rational and understandable...and why he's been questioned more than anyone else, I think...

[kirklancaster]

..yeah, that's what I meant though Captain Kirk sir...it made total sense for Jason to vote him...it made total sense for anyone and everyone to have voted him..:laugh:...but it's not irrational to question/be confused etc for something that we haven't been shown that's been given as the reason...it's totally rational and understandable...and why he's been questioned more than anyone else, I think...

I agree Ammi - BB should not show footage of people discussing events/dialogues which we the viewers have not been privy to.

They should now show us what the hell WAS said; 'Habeas Corpus' and all that. :laugh:

[sampvt]

:crazy:

Let me see;

Jason:

Self-Made very Wealthy entrepeneur.
Owns a boutique
Owns a Beauty Salon.
Is a succesful Property Developer.
Drives an Aston Martin.
Has a career in films as a body double
Has a career in films as a stunt man
Has co-starred in films.

Rat Boy

Failed wannabe singer
Kicked off the X-Factor for drunken antics in the pool and other anti-social behaviour
Described by Simon Cowell as "a horror of a human being" and "a nightmare".
Is such an airhead that he undergoes tanning injections three times a week and uses sunbeds SIX times a week.
Says of himself: "I am gobby, I just love attention, and drama tends to follow me, I'm painful."

I will have a wager with you that Jason has a far higher IQ than Rat Boy, is far more knowledgeable, and is far more intelligent than him.

He is most certainly a far NICER human being and far more relevant.

You forgot Jason has a 10 inch dick and all Ryan has is a bad personality and a pathetic gag reflex. After that, this is one of the best analysis's this week.

[Visage]

I agree Ammi - BB should not show footage of people discussing events/dialogues which we the viewers have not been privy to.




Yes, definitely.

I accept they can't show everything, but when a housemates comments on a conversation or an incident that hasn't been shown they need to show it through a flashback.

I appreciate last night was live and therefore wouldn't have been possible to dig it out, but in tonight's highlights it should be shown.

They are more than happy to show the viewers what happened in the previous episode, I just wish they were more active in showing scenes that's currently been discussed by the housemates.

Unless of course there are none....:conf2:

[chuff me dizzy]

I hope gob****e went on and asked everyone else who kicked out Ryan for their reasons

[Cherie]

Looking at the video again it looks like Ryan said he would **** Alex (maybe) and others up the arse and Jason took exception to it, then he brought in the example of how people would feel intimidated if he said it to them, this is Ryan did anyone actually take any notice of him apart from Jason :laugh:

[Cherie]

I hope gob****e went on and asked everyone else who kicked out Ryan for their reasons

The other reasons were pretty clear though, I'm closer to Sam/Laura and Choosing the rich option and don't call my Hughie gob****e :laugh:

[Ellen]

I hope gob****e went on and asked everyone else who kicked out Ryan for their reasons

It would be the usual 'im not as close to you as some others'. Its an easy answer is that, if they were in the DR i bet it would be different.

[chuff me dizzy]

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

:worship:

[chuff me dizzy]

It would be the usual 'im not as close to you as some others'. Its an easy answer is that, if they were in the DR i bet it would be different.

At least with Jason,he got an honest answer

[jaxie]

Yes, definitely.

I accept they can't show everything, but when a housemates comments on a conversation or an incident that hasn't been shown they need to show it through a flashback.

I appreciate last night was live and therefore wouldn't have been possible to dig it out, but in tonight's highlights it should be shown.

They are more than happy to show the viewers what happened in the previous episode, I just wish they were more active in showing scenes that's currently been discussed by the housemates.

Unless of course there are none....:conf2:

I think it was quite clear in his interview with Emma when he said women can't be funny and was pulled up on it, the kind of remarks he makes casually in conversation. Jason has probably heard a lot of it and picked up on it.

[Cherie]

I think it was quite clear in his interview with Emma when he said women can't be funny and was pulled up on it, the kind of remarks he makes casually in conversation. Jason has probably heard a lot of it and picked up on it.

It looks loke one throw away remark by Ryan that happened a few days ago, that's what I am getting from the video clip at any rate

[hot2go]

BB edit what we see but Ryan proved Jason had a point in his interview with Emma .

Either Ryan had a personality transplant before he went in the house or BB have edited Ryan so that we didn't see how bigoted he is. We all saw the tweets that were alleged to be from Ryan about BB transgender winner Luke but more evidently we've seen videos of him being prejudice and vile about people who are poor or over weight.
Jason obv saw past the distractions and insincerity of Ryan.

[Ellen]

Either Ryan had a personality transplant before he went in the house or BB have edited Ryan so that we didn't see how bigoted he is. We all saw the tweets that were alleged to be from Ryan about BB transgender winner Luke but more evidently we've seen videos of him being prejudice and vile about people who are poor or over weight.
Jason obv saw past the distractions and insincerity of Ryan.

This ^^^
There is obviously more been said than we have been shown. I do think in a lot of cases Ryan doesnt think about what he is saying.

[hot2go]

Since when have so many people been pro Ryan. Why is he so popular and great all of a sudden. Been mostly slagged off or ignored on social media for last three weeks. I'm not buying it. Hughie lovers and Jason haters need to say something more sub substantial to convince me that their remarks about Jason aren't just sour grapes.

[hot2go]

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

Brilliant post Kirk ... Pure logic and reason. :thumbs::thumbs:

[Visage]

I think it was quite clear in his interview with Emma when he said women can't be funny and was pulled up on it, the kind of remarks he makes casually in conversation. Jason has probably heard a lot of it and picked up on it.


Yes it was.


That comment to Emma was said after Jason had given his reason.

Yes it's a great example, but I'm asking what he's said in the house, have these comments been aired and if so can anyone refresh my memory.

[Razor]

Fair play to Jason.

[Amy Jade]

I think it was quite clear in his interview with Emma when he said women can't be funny and was pulled up on it, the kind of remarks he makes casually in conversation. Jason has probably heard a lot of it and picked up on it.

He didn't actually say that though did he?

[Kazanne]

He didn't actually say that though did he?

He said " You're quite funny for a bird" which is virtually saying girls aren't really funny as men ,no good splitting hairs over it,women are NOT birds and can be equally as funny as men,funny how ryan has suddenly picked up a couple of fans.

[Lister of Smeg]

Why should Jason explain himself to people that would have evicted him in that position :shrug:

[Kazanne]

As much as I dislike Aisleyne ,maybe she has the answer
From Aisleyne on twitter:-

"Yessssssss Ryan be gone!Justice for my friend @JustLukeyA and VERY apt with Jason's reasons! Wait till u read my column 2moro "

Did something come out over the last day?

[hot2go]

Can't see the problem,....Hughie asked a question, Hughie got the answer.
Jason obv saw in Ryan what has been seen on the outside with Ryans troll tweets attacking Luke A for being transgender and Ryans troll videos tracking unemployed and over weight people. Jason assessment of Ryan seems pretty spot on to me.

[hot2go]

As much as I dislike Aisleyne ,maybe she has the answer
From Aisleyne on twitter:-

"Yessssssss Ryan be gone!Justice for my friend @JustLukeyA and VERY apt with Jason's reasons! Wait till u read my column 2moro "

Did something come out over the last day?

Justice was done :laugh:

[-Sue-]

No Hughie has every right to ask Jason's reasons particularly due to what he said
It's the way Hughie talks/asks others that gets him in trouble...

sure he has every right to ask.. but Hughie has a lot to learn about how to talk to people...sadly as he like Charlie most things he is advised of falls on deaf ears:shrug:

[hot2go]

He said " You're quite funny for a bird" which is virtually saying girls aren't really funny as men ,no good splitting hairs over it,women are NOT birds and can be equally as funny as men,funny how ryan has suddenly picked up a couple of fans.

He really slipped up with Emma last night....his casual throw away remark was very telling indeed. And I'm really not quoting Jason when I say that his choice of language was derogatory ...it's exactly the word I would use to describe any one who calls women birds....it's a very unusual term to be used by a gay man....I've never met one who does....when I think about men who call women birds I think about London cab drivers, or scallys or old blokes in the boozer....but never heard a gay guy say it.

[chuff me dizzy]

As much as I dislike Aisleyne ,maybe she has the answer
From Aisleyne on twitter:-

"Yessssssss Ryan be gone!Justice for my friend @JustLukeyA and VERY apt with Jason's reasons! Wait till u read my column 2moro "

Did something come out over the last day?

Keep us update please Kazanne

[Kazanne]

Keep us update please Kazanne

:thumbs:

[CandyCat]

Well, we know what he meant now and it only showed him to be even more nice of a guy.

[Cherie]

Well, we know what he meant now and it only showed him to be even more nice of a guy.

No it makes him look snide, why didn't he pipe up in the bedroom? He was happy enough to bitch about it with Andy, but didn't have the time to take Ryan aside? Ryan was crude but neither Alex or Evelyn were offended

[Vanessa]

Gone off Hughie. He can **** off now :nono:

[Cherie]

Gone off Hughie. He can **** off now :nono:

Why for defending his friend? At put least Jason knows where he stands unlike Ryan who had no clue what Jason had stored up for him :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Why for defending his friend? At put least Jason knows where he stands unlike Ryan who had no clue what Jason had stored up for him :laugh:
For singling out Jason. 4 people picked Ryan, but surprise surprise: it's all Jason fault! :bored:

[Cherie]

For singling out Jason. 4 people picked Ryan, but surprise surprise: it's all Jason fault! :bored:

His reasons Vanessa, nothing to do with his nom, his reasons, did you not notice Jason actually telling Hughie he would explain? He didn't need to do that if he didn't feel guilty

[hot2go]

Having seen what he said I totally agree with Jason...there's a time and place and a familiarity with people that allows that type of humour and on national tele and to a young couple who've not even kissed yet Ryan was completly out of order and wrong.

[Cherie]

Having seen what he said I totally agree with Jason...there's a time and place and a familiarity with people that allows that type of humour and on national tele and to a young couple who've not even kissed yet Ryan was completly out of order and wrong.

So why not say it there and then?

[hot2go]

People like Ryan and Lateysha are so basic and Vulger and stupid they think everyone is like them and that what they say and do is acceptable and it just isn't.

[Cherie]

People like Ryan and Lateysha are so basic and Vulger and stupid they think everyone is like them and that what they say and do is acceptable and it just isn't.

No one said it was acceptable, but Jason had two days to have a word

[hot2go]

So why not say it there and then?

Because like Andy, he found himself in a room full of people who find that vulgarly acceptable so he was out numbered and would have just looked like a kill joy....

And anyway, far better to say nothing than use it as one of the killer votes to remove the problem....jobs a good en,,,now Jason won't have to feel uncomfortable around him any more.

[Vanessa]

His reasons Vanessa, nothing to do with his nom, his reasons, did you not notice Jason actually telling Hughie he would explain? He didn't need to do that if he didn't feel guilty

He gave a valid reason and doesn't owe anyone any explanation. Of course it's alright for the other three to pick Ryan. They don't get hassle for it.

[Cherie]

He gave a valid reason and doesn't owe anyone any explanation. Of course it's alright for the other three to pick Ryan. They don't get hassle for it.

Did Jason come to sit near Hughie on the sofa and explain his reasons or not?

[hot2go]

I notice that yet again the person who commits the offence isn't the bad guy but instead the person who speaks out against it....how is Jason in the wrong and Ryan is the victim ?
Ryan didn't consult anyone before choosing when to say what he said so Jason shouldn't have to consult anyone before choosing when to respond.

And Jason is bang on, if he or Chelsea or Sam had said that it would without doubt be seen as a reason to attack them but because it's Ryan and because it's Jason who took offence it's ok.

[Vanessa]

Did Jason come to sit near Hughie on the sofa and explain his reasons or not?

He wanted to explain it to Hughie. But no, he does not feel guilty. He made his choice and didn't go for the easy option.

[Cherie]

Because like Andy, he found himself in a room full of people who find that vulgarly acceptable so he was out numbered and would have just looked like a kill joy....

And anyway, far better to say nothing than use it as one of the killer votes to remove the problem....jobs a good en,,,now Jason won't have to feel uncomfortable around him any more.



Exactly! So basically he couldn't care less about Evelyn or Alex, he decided to use it as a nomination reason, bravo to you for seeing it

[Cherie]

He wanted to explain it to Hughie. But no, he does not feel guilty. He made his choice and didn't go for the easy option.


So he wasn't hassled into explaining then, at least we agree on that

[hot2go]

Hughie is an idiot and never listens....he asked the questions then either doesn't allow the person to reply or doesn't listen when they do. Jason explanation was justified and Hughie should have accepted it.

[Nancy.]

Because like Andy, he found himself in a room full of people who find that vulgarly acceptable so he was out numbered and would have just looked like a kill joy....

And anyway, far better to say nothing than use it as one of the killer votes to remove the problem....jobs a good en,,,now Jason won't have to feel uncomfortable around him any more.

This is exactly what I thought. Love reading your comments, Hot2go.

[hot2go]

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Exactly! So basically he couldn't care less about Evelyn or Alex, he decided to use it as a nomination reason, bravo to you for seeing it

I don't know that...I said that is what I would do...I hope that is why he did it.

[Vanessa]

So he wasn't hassled into explaining then, at least we agree on that

No, he just wanted to clarify. Hughie reaction really disappointed me. Spit his dummy out. Him and Ryan blame Jason for Ryan exit, which is wrong. 4 people evicted him, not just Jason.

[hot2go]

This is exactly what I thought. Love reading your comments, Hot2go.

Thank you, I like reading everyone's comments but I def can't say I agree with them all :laugh: I'm pretty sure more people thought what we did than didn't though....

[Ammi]

No it makes him look snide, why didn't he pipe up in the bedroom? He was happy enough to bitch about it with Andy, but didn't have the time to take Ryan aside? Ryan was crude but neither Alex or Evelyn were offended


..yeah, I think this as well really...(although I do think that he may win..)...it's funny because it was quite unfortunate for Ryan that after Jason gave the reasons that he did, he then made the sexist comment to Emma...but I think also 'unfortunate' or very telling is more it for me...that Jason was shown to have the conversation with Andy about it being a 'popularity contest' and discussing numbers in each 'group'...so those I think were his calculations and primary reason for voting Ryan to go...a smart and tactical move and one that is quite well thought out...but he also knows that, that reason is not one that he would be able to give to his fellow housemates...'oh, I voted him off tactically so ya'll hush up'...so it had to become more 'moral' and one that he felt would see him in a better light as well as a 'more acceptable' justification with them....and also with the public as well of course because Ryan's crude (drunken) remarks would probably be something that he calculated as being a safer bet for public perception, rather than an overtly revealed game-plan....fair play to him though, he's secured two evictions of 'key characters' of the opposing group as it were this week...and he seems to me to be the least 'savvy' BB housemate/the least familiar with BB, so maybe that's ended up being an advantage as well...