Andy's uncharacteristic upbeat persona

[Northern Monkey]

Is this the final phase of his plan?Appear positive towards the end.I think so

[Headie]

Noms are coming up

[Shaun]

Is this the final phase of his plan?Appear positive towards the end.I think so

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[Ashley.]

He's drunk

[Oaker]

I've liked him this episode tbh but I doubt it will last

[Guuki]

Definitely a gameplayer.

[RhysJones]

Really liked him this episode, but unfortunately it's all part of his gameplan to get to the final

[GiRTh]

Is this the final phase of his plan?Appear positive towards the end.I think soI think you'e right. Looking back I think his outrage at Hughie and Ryans mock engagement may have been a bit staged.

[Babayaro.]

He's drunk

Me

[Dramatic]

He was just drunk. I reckon this is what he's like irl.

[delta]

Andy trying too hard, if anyone could play a game he's been the nearest to achieving it, still don't like him but I have a feeling that he could end up winning,

Sam and Alex have literally done fupp all the whole series, why did they ever go in there?

Laura is proper getting on my threppennies - that whining, monotone, fake, faltering voice. She got booed 'cos she's universally disliked, nothing to do with Marco, it's the way she's acting now. She's queen of deflection, her booing was all encompassing, Sam's was a bit of booing and a bit of cheering but to make herself feel better she tried to bring down Sam to her level. Loved it when she asked openly to everyone that was listening " oh the booing wasn't that bad, was it?" Evelyn blasted back " Oh yeah, it was!"

Jackson is a little rat, with his fake West Indian accent. As dislikeable as Laura is on the female side.

Who said Jason was the King game player ? I have him down to a tee!!

For some reason I like Jayne, I know she's a gold digger, Erikson, Terry, Chelsea, Chris Evans to name but a few, but there isn't something quite innocent about her. I thought it was quite sad an amazing in equal measures when they were discussing the £5k and most of them drooling, including Jayne, about the amount as if it was a million pounds.


In some respects Andy is right, if these clowns actually got a job and worked for 6 months they could quite easily accumulate that sort of money. Instead, they all want to take the short cut to fame and fortune with out doing a hard days graft.

All in all non of them deserve to win, but the least offensive, imho, is Jayne.

[hot2go]

Definitely a gameplayer.

I think it's obvious at this stage they are all game players...and about time to

[joeysteele]

I liked seeing this side of him,he really got into things and enjoyed himself, that was refreshing to watch.

[hot2go]

Andy has been upbeat all along for me but the younger ones only recognise their own kind of upbeat....Andys made me laugh since day one.

[hot2go]

The change tonight was in e wry one of them not just Andy and it's not about coming to the final, it's the reaction to such an intense and hostile week at the hands of big brother.

[Kazanne]

Andy has been upbeat all along for me but the younger ones only recognise their own kind of upbeat....Andys made me laugh since day one.

I like Andy too if Jason goes this week ,Andy is my winner

[Jan S]

The change tonight was in e wry one of them not just Andy and it's not about coming to the final, it's the reaction to such an intense and hostile week at the hands of big brother.
yes, definitely - and jason's problem now is self-doubt. hope he brightens soon as it's great to see him looking happy.

[Withano]

Either be miserable on the smoking bench or bite your tongue and enjoy the party i guess.. I just think he got sick of Jasons company after being sucked into Jasons self-loathing chat earlier in the day myself.

[Mystic Mock]

His a snake, but one that I like as his plan is harmless.

[armand.kay]

It was a bit cringe and obvious but it kind of worked on me. Like I prefer him being like this then being all doom and gloom.

I think when he was sitting with Jason listening to him be all gloom and doom he kind of saw himself and decided it was time for a change.

[waterhog]

Is this the final phase of his plan?Appear positive towards the end.I think so




it reminded me a bit like slutdrop from last BB - transformation.

[*mazedsalv**]

Gameplay or not I really enjoyed him tonight.

[jet]

Andy has been upbeat all along for me but the younger ones only recognise their own kind of upbeat....Andys made me laugh since day one.

Yes, we have been kindred spirits when it comes to Andy's dry humour hot2go and he was especially hilarious tonight. :laugh:
He was so funny in the DR about his tanned body and Alex and I had to laugh at the look on his face when Jason was refusing to be talked off the window ledge. (Sorry Jason :hehe:)
In RL Andy must be a hoot to be around. Love him.

[jet]

It was a bit cringe and obvious but it kind of worked on me. Like I prefer him being like this then being all doom and gloom.

I think when he was sitting with Jason listening to him be all gloom and doom he kind of saw himself and decided it was time for a change.

But he has shown a wicked sense of humour all along armand. I think he is just glad, like they all are, to have such an stressful week over with and let his hair down, get some alco and PARTY. They were all on a high and I've even started to like Hughie tonight. :shocked:

[armand.kay]

But he has shown a wicked sense of humour all along armand. I think he is just glad, like they all are, to have such an stressful week over with and let his hair down, get some alco and PARTY. They were all on a high and I've even started to like Hughie tonight. :shocked:

I actually liked andy at the beginning I only started disliking him after the second time he got himself involved in drama that he had no business getting himself in and making himself out to be a victim. Hopefully he keeps this up because i do enjoy the show a lot more when I don't outright hate anyone.

[Kazanne]

Andy will win this and rightly so. so you all best get used to it

[mysargasso]

Tbh, who isn't a bit out of character when they've had a couple of drinks in them? Andy looked like he was enjoying himself, and I quite like seeing him like this. If I was in his position and knew that I would most assuredly get nominated and had a good chance of getting evicted I'd want to enjoy my last few days in the BB house.

[hot2go]

Andy will win this and rightly so. so you all best get used to it

I would love it if he did. I think he's been relevant and present from the start to the finish and he showed us who he is straight away and stayed that person through out.

[armand.kay]

Andy will win this and rightly so. so you all best get used to it

if he stays like this and puts his soppy moany days behind him i doubt anyone will care much if he wins :shrug:

[rusticgal]

Andy has been upbeat all along for me but the younger ones only recognise their own kind of upbeat....Andys made me laugh since day one.



As much as I like Andy...I think he was completely fake tonight. I found it uncomfortable to watch.
Nominations tmrw...had he sat with Jason like he normally does he saw himself getting drawn in to the 2nd vote catagory along with Jason...
Up until now he has been quite happy to set himself aside from the others to 'be himself'....it was all an act tonight imo to keep his head off the block...but FairPlay to him...I reckon it worked.
Personally I would have respected him more if he hadn't.

[hot2go]

Yes, we have been kindred spirits when it comes to Andy's dry humour hot2go and he was especially hilarious tonight. :laugh:
He was so funny in the DR about his tanned body and Alex and I had to laugh at the look on his face when Jason was refusing to be talked off the window ledge. (Sorry Jason :hehe:)
In RL Andy must be a hoot to be around. Love him.

He can laugh at himself and send himself up and I love that about him.

Tonight when Sam was shampooing his hair and retching did you hear Andy say " you're definitely worth it Sam " :laugh:

[hot2go]

As much as I like Andy...I think he was completely fake tonight. I found it uncomfortable to watch.
Nominations tmrw...had he sat with Jason like he normally does he saw himself getting drawn in to the 2nd vote catagory along with Jason...
Up until now he has been quite happy to set himself aside from the others to 'be himself'....it was all an act tonight imo to keep his head off the block...but FairPlay to him...I reckon it worked.
Personally I would have respected him more if he hadn't.

I think it was three things with Andy....it's noms tomorrow and being moody or miserable wouldn't be the best method ...it was letting off steam after a tense and terrible week...and it was the first time he felt relaxed enough to enjoy himself without Lateysha snarling at him and polishing her horns.

[jet]

Andy will win this and rightly so. so you all best get used to it

I would love that Kaz as he's been the stand - out for me from day 1 and my favourite HM EVER. But there is always that Hughie fella and you can't discount Jase either on one bad day. I'm never confident about my fave winning as my BB record is crap. (I do better on CBB.) :hee:

[jet]

He can laugh at himself and send himself up and I love that about him.

Tonight when Sam was shampooing his hair and retching did you hear Andy say " you're definitely worth it Sam " :laugh:

Yep! :joker:
I never miss an Andyism. My ears are like antenna's when he's saying anything, ready to pick up the latest quip. :laugh:

[hot2go]

Yep! :joker:
I never miss an Andyism. My ears are like antenna's when he's saying anything, ready to pick up the latest quip. :laugh:

Me too :laugh::laugh: he's just brilliant :joker:

[Ammi]

But he has shown a wicked sense of humour all along armand. I think he is just glad, like they all are, to have such an stressful week over with and let his hair down, get some alco and PARTY. They were all on a high and I've even started to like Hughie tonight. :shocked:

I actually liked andy at the beginning I only started disliking him after the second time he got himself involved in drama that he had no business getting himself in and making himself out to be a victim. Hopefully he keeps this up because i do enjoy the show a lot more when I don't outright hate anyone.

...I don't agree Jet about his humour..well, I sort of do, it's not that I haven't seen it as such but I think that his humour has often been negative humour in trying to make others look bad and it's not particularly a humour that I have much admiration for..a kind of 'superiority' humour...it wasn't like that in last night's HLs though, he really was enjoying his housemates and I think that he was feeling differently and needing to join in more and appreciate them because of how much Jason was bringing down his spirits...(I think..)..that Andy has maybe allowed Jason to 'exclude' himself from the group and fun by feeding him negativity...but hopefully, Andy is seeing that more now....it was great to see him having such fun but also, having a more positive humour..rather than there often seeming to be an 'edge' to it...

...and yeah, the same as with Armand...I hope that he keeps this Andy up because I think there was genuine enjoyment of his fellow housemates last night ..and them for him as well....

[thesheriff443]

I liked seeing this side of him,he really got into things and enjoyed himself, that was refreshing to watch.

I agree with you on this.

[-Sue-]

Bless his cotton socks he is finally enjoying BB without all the drama now that all the rubbish has been put out :)

[Kazanne]

Bless his cotton socks he is finally enjoying BB without all the drama now that all the rubbish has been put out :)

Nice he can enjoy himself now the head honcho has gone,otherwise it wouldn't have been allowed:hee:

[-Sue-]

Nice he can enjoy himself now the head honcho has gone,otherwise it wouldn't have been allowed:hee:


oooh yes love it :)

Loved Andy's Mr bean walk during task :) lol superb that Andy is relaxed and having fun :D

[Ellen]

...I don't agree Jet about his humour..well, I sort of do, it's not that I haven't seen it as such but I think that his humour has often been negative humour in trying to make others look bad and it's not particularly a humour that I have much admiration for..a kind of 'superiority' humour...it wasn't like that in last night's HLs though, he really was enjoying his housemates and I think that he was feeling differently and needing to join in more and appreciate them because of how much Jason was bringing down his spirits...(I think..)..that Andy has maybe allowed Jason to 'exclude' himself from the group and fun by feeding him negativity...but hopefully, Andy is seeing that more now....it was great to see him having such fun but also, having a more positive humour..rather than there often seeming to be an 'edge' to it...

...and yeah, the same as with Armand...I hope that he keeps this Andy up because I think there was genuine enjoyment of his fellow housemates last night ..and them for him as well....

Yet all the time Andy was upset,cried, was down,moped around, everyone saying he was a liar, a snake, a game player, nearly the whole house not liking him Jason was there supporting him, listening to him waffle on about the situation, he didnt let Andy be excluded.

On the humour, i think he has a dry sarcastic sense of humour that not all like this but he has had time now to understand other HM's humours and them him so i dont think they view it has him been above them anymore, they just understand him more.

[Kazanne]

Yet all the time Andy was upset,cried, was down,moped around, everyone saying he was a liar, a snake, a game player, nearly the whole house not liking him Jason was there supporting him, listening to him waffle on about the situation, he didnt let Andy be excluded.

On the humour, i think he has a dry sarcastic sense of humour that not all like this but he has had time now to understand other HM's humours and them him so i dont think they view it has him been above them anymore, they just understand him more.

Exactly this ellen,funny how people overlook things that happened like the lovely hug Jason gave Andy when no one else wanted to know him, when it was Andy who felt ostracised and isolated, it was Jason who stood in his corner

Now the roles are reversed and Andy finds himself welcomed to the fold, whilst Jason is the one who is alone ,and look what happens,


I like Andy,but wasn't so keen on him forgetting what a good friend Jason has been

[smudgie]

Simple game playing.
Andy has always looked down his nose at most of them, due to his superior intelligence (his perceived superior ntelligence that is) .
Only one reason he joined in with the party really, to distance himself away from Jason, after hearing the crowd reception, the same way he crawled up his backside when he was cheered

[Tarryn]

Why not be happy ?.
He has let his mate Jason do the dirty work & get rid of two HM's that Andy did not like & in doing so became the new house snake, replacing him.
He is done with Jason now.
He will now try to be everybody's new best mate & watch Jason get evicted.
I like Andy when he stands up to others but this new Andy is fake.

[Ellen]

Exactly this ellen,funny how people overlook things that happened like the lovely hug Jason gave Andy when no one else wanted to know him, when it was Andy who felt ostracised and isolated, it was Jason who stood in his corner

Now the roles are reversed and Andy finds himself welcomed to the fold, whilst Jason is the one who is alone ,and look what happens,


I like Andy,but wasn't so keen on him forgetting what a good friend Jason has been

I do like Andy as well but its rattled me a bit how Andy seems to have forgotten how much Jason was there for him :fist:

[Ellen]

Why not be happy ?.
He has let his mate Jason do the dirty work & get rid of two HM's that Andy did not like & in doing so became the new house snake, replacing him.
He is done with Jason now.
He will now try to be everybody's new best mate & watch Jason get evicted.
I like Andy when he stands up to others but this new Andy is fake.

I was wondering this myself.

[Kazanne]

I was wondering this myself.

Well if Jason goes this week I was championing Andy for the win,but now I am having doubts

[Kazanne]

Simple game playing.
Andy has always looked down his nose at most of them, due to his superior intelligence (his perceived superior ntelligence that is) .
Only one reason he joined in with the party really, to distance himself away from Jason, after hearing the crowd reception, the same way he crawled up his backside when he was cheered

Well spotted smudgie,:wavey:

[Ellen]

Well if Jason goes this week I was championing Andy for the win,but now I am having doubts

Yeah i with you on this.
Jason never once wavered on his support of Andy nor did he vocalise wether he agreed with Andy or not to any other HM he was just there for him. It would be a shame if Andy now dropped the one who has been a big support for him the whole way through.

[kirklancaster]

Why not be happy ?.
He has let his mate Jason do the dirty work & get rid of two HM's that Andy did not like & in doing so became the new house snake, replacing him.
He is done with Jason now.
He will now try to be everybody's new best mate & watch Jason get evicted.
I like Andy when he stands up to others but this new Andy is fake.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Vanessa]

I'm not supporting Andy anymore. Jason was there for him when no one else was. Funny how he has forgotten that now that Jason is the one who is feeling isolated. So I'm all for Jason. If he goes I'm not voting. Not keen on the others and Hughie is especially a massive disappointment.

[jet]

Yet all the time Andy was upset,cried, was down,moped around, everyone saying he was a liar, a snake, a game player, nearly the whole house not liking him Jason was there supporting him, listening to him waffle on about the situation, he didnt let Andy be excluded.

On the humour, i think he has a dry sarcastic sense of humour that not all like this but he has had time now to understand other HM's humours and them him so i dont think they view it has him been above them anymore, they just understand him more.

Andy has cried once and he has NEVER moped around. He has never excluded HIMSELF. He was there for Jason when the whole house turned on him, he had spend all day trying to gee him up and god forbid he enjoy a party and let his hair down just because Jason is being a misery guts. But I guess it's time to turn on Andy to take the bad look off Jason.

[Ellen]

Andy has cried once and he has NEVER moped around. He has never excluded HIMSELF. He was there for Jason when the whole house turned on him, he had spend all day trying to gee him up and god forbid he enjoy a party and let his hair down just because Jason is being a misery guts. But I guess it's time to turn on Andy to take the bad look off Jason.

Disagree...
Andy has moped around, a lot. He has excluded himself. He sat in the DR moaning about the situation. He sat around for days talking about other HM's and how they dont understand him to Jason.
Jason is moping, i never said he wasnt :conf:
I never said Andy couldnt enjoy a party either :conf:

[-Sue-]

Disagree...
Andy has moped around, a lot. He has excluded himself. He sat in the DR moaning about the situation. He sat around for days talking about other HM's and how they dont understand him to Jason.
Jason is moping, i never said he wasnt :conf:
I never said Andy couldnt enjoy a party either :conf:

To be fair at the time he was being ostracized from most of house for a long long time...that has to be uncomfy and not a nice place to live in... and now finally he is free to be himself relax and have fun without everything he does and says being brought up by the house...

[Ellen]

To be fair at the time he was being ostracized from most of house for a long long time...that has to be uncomfy and not a nice place to live in... and now finally he is free to be himself relax and have fun without everything he does and says being brought up by the house...

Yes he was, as i said earlier :)

[jet]

Disagree...
Andy has moped around, a lot. He has excluded himself. He sat in the DR moaning about the situation. He sat around for days talking about other HM's and how they dont understand him to Jason.
Jason is moping, i never said he wasnt :conf:
I never said Andy couldnt enjoy a party either :conf:

It's funny we watch the same programme and see different things. I have never seen Andy moping around. I have seen him talking about his situation. Two different things. He picks himself up very quickly. He has always kept his sense of humour and didn't let the others bring him down.
He has never excluded himself either. Even when he was being excluded by some there were others he interacted with and sat with. He has always been the same to me.
....And I agree, you didn't say he couldn't enjoy the party. :wavey:

[Ellen]

It's funny we watch the same programme and see different things. I have never seen Andy moping around. I have seen him talking about his situation. Two different things. He picks himself up very quickly. He has always kept his sense of humour and didn't let the others bring him down.
He has never excluded himself either. Even when he was being excluded by some there were others he interacted with and sat with. He has always been the same to me.
....And I agree, you didn't say he couldn't enjoy the party. :wavey:

Its no problem to have different take's on things :wavey:

There was just a couple of things that made me waver about him. Hope i am wrong as i like Andy.

[TT350]

Didn't stop him bitching in the diary room about Jason's accent.

Andy...go do that to his face you untermensch.

[jet]

Yeah i with you on this.
Jason never once wavered on his support of Andy nor did he vocalise wether he agreed with Andy or not to any other HM he was just there for him. It would be a shame if Andy now dropped the one who has been a big support for him the whole way through.

Maybe you missed when they were choosing who to give immunity to between Andy and Jayne Jason didn't say anything when they were all going for Jayne. It was Jackson who jumped in and gave a very strong case for Andy. Jason said nought.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt because Jason might have said something that wasn't shown, just as Andy could have gone into the garden and spoke to Jason during the party and it wasn't shown.
But if edits aren't taken into account, then Jason wasn't there for Andy for immunity. It works both ways.

[chuff me dizzy]

Well if Jason goes this week I was championing Andy for the win,but now I am having doubts

No way I can support Andy now ,I hate sneaks and backstabbers

[TT350]

Simple game playing.
Andy has always looked down his nose at most of them, due to his superior intelligence (his perceived superior ntelligence that is) .
Only one reason he joined in with the party really, to distance himself away from Jason, after hearing the crowd reception, the same way he crawled up his backside when he was cheered


Nail. Head. Hammered.

[Ellen]

Maybe you missed when they were choosing who to give immunity to between Andy and Jayne Jason didn't say anything when they were all going for Jayne. It was Jackson who jumped in and gave a very strong case for Andy. Jason said nought.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt because Jason might have said something that wasn't shown, just as Andy could have gone into the garden and spoke to Jason during the party and it wasn't shown.
But if edits aren't taken into account, then Jason wasn't there for Andy for immunity. It works both ways.

I thought Jason had explained all about that to Andy?

[TT350]

If he wins, I can imagine what he'd be thinking.

"God. I'm so intelligent. I pulled the wool over the whole nations eyes. I am simply amazing. Invincible. Jesus, my intellect is a force of nature. I mean, damn that Hawkins mong in the wheelchair is smart but I,... I am all knowing all seeing. Did I create the universe but my intelligence held the memory from me in order to keep me humble amongst mortals?"

No you just outwitted a few fame seeking lunatics with the IQ of a tetley tea bag (used).

[jet]

I thought Jason had explained all about that to Andy?

I don't know what you mean Ellen. :conf:

[kirklancaster]

If he wins, I can imagine what he'd be thinking.

"God. I'm so intelligent. I pulled the wool over the whole nations eyes. I am simply amazing. Invincible. Jesus, my intellect is a force of nature. I mean, damn that Hawkins mong in the wheelchair is smart but I,... I am all knowing all seeing. Did I create the universe but my intelligence held the memory from me in order to keep me humble amongst mortals?"

No you just outwitted a few fame seeking lunatics with the IQ of a tetley tea bag (used).

:laugh::laugh::laugh: :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Ellen]

I don't know what you mean Ellen. :conf:

I could be wrong but i thought Jason and Andy had a convo about the immune vote?

[jennyjuniper]

Andy has been upbeat all along for me but the younger ones only recognise their own kind of upbeat....Andys made me laugh since day one.

I agree. It could also be that since Lateysha and Ryan left he's been more relaxed.

[rusticgal]

I do like Andy as well but its rattled me a bit how Andy seems to have forgotten how much Jason was there for him :fist:


Me too :fist:

[Jan S]

Andy has cried once and he has NEVER moped around. He has never excluded HIMSELF. He was there for Jason when the whole house turned on him, he had spend all day trying to gee him up and god forbid he enjoy a party and let his hair down just because Jason is being a misery guts. But I guess it's time to turn on Andy to take the bad look off Jason.i think Andy did what he could for Jason and knew he could do no more, that J had to work it out for himself.

the biggest difference in their situations, as i see it anyway, is that Andy was ostracised by the group and J was there for him - andy talks it out, whereas Jason is choosing to ostracise himself whilst he tries to figure out what he's done. he's a man of great integrity, and he's beating himself up trying to see what he has done 'wrong' so he can face up to it and correct it. he's so wrapped up in that process Andy can't help and has given him his space.

Didn't stop him bitching in the diary room about Jason's accent.

Andy...go do that to his face you untermensch.i don't see that he was bitching about J's accent - he was making his own observations about the brighton accent and how it sits in his own head. besides, most of us have had friends we really like but whose voice, when complaining or down, we can find irritating. that doesn't make A a Brutus anymore than it makes J a bumbling moron.

[Jan S]

I could be wrong but i thought Jason and Andy had a convo about the immune vote?they did :)

[jet]

If he wins, I can imagine what he'd be thinking.

"God. I'm so intelligent. I pulled the wool over the whole nations eyes. I am simply amazing. Invincible. Jesus, my intellect is a force of nature. I mean, damn that Hawkins mong in the wheelchair is smart but I,... I am all knowing all seeing. Did I create the universe but my intelligence held the memory from me in order to keep me humble amongst mortals?"
.

:joker: I can imagine Andy saying this in the DR and it being taken deadly seriously. You just don't get him, do you? :joker:

[jet]

they did :)

Could you give me the gist of it Jan?

[Northern Monkey]

Yet all the time Andy was upset,cried, was down,moped around, everyone saying he was a liar, a snake, a game player, nearly the whole house not liking him Jason was there supporting him, listening to him waffle on about the situation, he didnt let Andy be excluded.

On the humour, i think he has a dry sarcastic sense of humour that not all like this but he has had time now to understand other HM's humours and them him so i dont think they view it has him been above them anymore, they just understand him more.True

[Jan S]

:joker: I can imagine Andy saying this in the DR and it being taken deadly seriously. You just don't get him, do you? :joker: i've been waiting for the haters to slate him over his ''egotisitcal'' comments about his body compared to alex's :D

Could you give me the gist of it Jan?
i think it's where jason was telling andy that if he'd had any sense he'd not have voted to give andy immunity since he saw andy as more of a threat to his own chances of surviving in the house than jayne, but then he decided it didn't matter and he went with his heart over his head even if it meant he'd just shot himself in the foot. basically :D wanted to do what felt right rather than what was in his own best interest.

[Northern Monkey]

Exactly this ellen,funny how people overlook things that happened like the lovely hug Jason gave Andy when no one else wanted to know him, when it was Andy who felt ostracised and isolated, it was Jason who stood in his corner

Now the roles are reversed and Andy finds himself welcomed to the fold, whilst Jason is the one who is alone ,and look what happens,


I like Andy,but wasn't so keen on him forgetting what a good friend Jason has been

Also true

Andy is playing the game now.Getting in with the group while poor old Jason gets left hung out to dry

[jet]

i've been waiting for the haters to slate him over his ''egotisitcal'' comments about his body compared to alex's :D


i think it's where jason was telling andy that if he'd had any sense he'd not have voted to give andy immunity since he saw andy as more of a threat to his own chances of surviving in the house than jayne, but then he decided it didn't matter and he went with his heart over his head even if it meant he'd just shot himself in the foot. basically :D wanted to do what felt right rather than what was in his own best interest.

Thanks Jan.

Hmmm. :think: As he didn't champion Andy - Jackson did - and they had shown the other HM's the footage, it seems he was covering for himself then as we didn't see him say anything. Snake. I've gone right off him now a 'la Chuff and co. :laugh:

[jet]

Also true

Andy is playing the game now.Getting in with the group while poor old Jason gets left hung out to dry

He has his own party - a pity party.

[chuff me dizzy]

Also true

Andy is playing the game now.Getting in with the group while poor old Jason gets left hung out to dry

:clap1: He's been stuck to Jason like **** to a blanket all week after hearing the cheers, Jason gets a few boos and off Andy trots to cosy up to the bedroom bitches (whats left of them )

[hot2go]

Maybe you missed when they were choosing who to give immunity to between Andy and Jayne Jason didn't say anything when they were all going for Jayne. It was Jackson who jumped in and gave a very strong case for Andy. Jason said nought.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt because Jason might have said something that wasn't shown, just as Andy could have gone into the garden and spoke to Jason during the party and it wasn't shown.
But if edits aren't taken into account, then Jason wasn't there for Andy for immunity. It works both ways.

I think exactly the same as you Jet....the number of times ive watched a vid clip on the big brother forum and then in the high lights show the edit has removed vital elements of a situation or a conversation,
I just apply logic to this...we've seen both Andy and Jason be there for each other but not at every turn and not constantly holding each other's hands.
Andy appeared to sit with Jason throughout the day keeping him company and suggested ways to lift his mood. And I'm really not knocking Jason when I say this, I empathise with how he must feel, but if someone refuses to try and refuses to listen to any advice then there's only so much you can be expected to do for them and abstaining from the party just to listen to Jason moaning isn't fare ....Andy shouldn't be expected to do that.

[Vanessa]

I like Andy, but if he nominates Jason he will lose all my support. Jason would never nominate him. :nono:

[hot2go]

i think Andy did what he could for Jason and knew he could do no more, that J had to work it out for himself.

the biggest difference in their situations, as i see it anyway, is that Andy was ostracised by the group and J was there for him - andy talks it out, whereas Jason is choosing to ostracise himself whilst he tries to figure out what he's done. he's a man of great integrity, and he's beating himself up trying to see what he has done 'wrong' so he can face up to it and correct it. he's so wrapped up in that process Andy can't help and has given him his space.

i don't see that he was bitching about J's accent - he was making his own observations about the brighton accent and how it sits in his own head. besides, most of us have had friends we really like but whose voice, when complaining or down, we can find irritating. that doesn't make A a Brutus anymore than it makes J a bumbling moron.

All of the above :thumbs:

[Northern Monkey]

:clap1: He's been stuck to Jason like **** to a blanket all week after hearing the cheers, Jason gets a few boos and off Andy trots to cosy up to the bedroom bitches (whats left of them )
Bang on right!And slagging him off in the diary room.

[Vanessa]

Ugh Tisha in the task. The only point of that was to stop Andy and Jason from getting to the final. :nono:

[Vanessa]

Bang on right!And slagging him off in the diary room.

He's a turncoat.

[Kazanne]

I could be wrong but i thought Jason and Andy had a convo about the immune vote?

They did .

[TT350]

:joker: I can imagine Andy saying this in the DR and it being taken deadly seriously. You just don't get him, do you? :joker:

If I don't, it's not through lack of intelligence, as Andy would probably claim.

[hot2go]

:clap1: He's been stuck to Jason like **** to a blanket all week after hearing the cheers, Jason gets a few boos and off Andy trots to cosy up to the bedroom bitches (whats left of them )

But Jason was only up for eviction last week, Andy had been by his side since day one, in fact he even joked to Jason how his ex entering the house could change the dynamics of their close friendship and that he would fight to win him back.

And there isn't anything left of the bedroom clique, it's scattered to the wind. It's every man for himself now and Andy was just having fun and enjoying feeling free and being accepted after Latetsha and Ryan had gone.

I know you've never been a big supporter of Andy so I'm not challenging you, I can see how it can look to some compared to others.
But people who have been massive Andy supporters, you mustn't let his detractors influence you until you've at least watched the episode that followed the party.

[chuff me dizzy]

Bang on right!And slagging him off in the diary room.

True

[jet]

I like Andy, but if he nominates Jason he will lose all my support. Jason would never nominate him. :nono:

He might as well nominate him. He's already been blasted and turned against for not wet nursing a big ass man when he'd tried all day to be there for him and it was obvious Jason wasn't going to snap out of it no matter what he said or did.
He was ready for that party after being with someone who was depressing the life out of him all day. I loved a tipsy Andy and it was a fun night overall. :laugh:

[jet]

I think exactly the same as you Jet....the number of times ive watched a vid clip on the big brother forum and then in the high lights show the edit has removed vital elements of a situation or a conversation,
I just apply logic to this...we've seen both Andy and Jason be there for each other but not at every turn and not constantly holding each other's hands.
Andy appeared to sit with Jason throughout the day keeping him company and suggested ways to lift his mood. And I'm really not knocking Jason when I say this, I empathise with how he must feel, but if someone refuses to try and refuses to listen to any advice then there's only so much you can be expected to do for them and abstaining from the party just to listen to Jason moaning isn't fare ....Andy shouldn't be expected to do that.

That's exactly what he was expected to do though by many....it's pathetic how quickly people will turn on a HM they profess to like just to deflect attention away from the behaviour of their favourite.

[hot2go]

I like both immensely but they def don't stand by each other's side in every situation. When Andy had the whole house against him the night he stuck up for Jason over Lateysha and her bitches calling him a game player, Jason didn't stand by Andy, in fact he sat and listened to Alex who accused Andy of talking rubbish.

When Hughie targeted Andy in front of everyone then followed him to the kitchen to twist the knife and intimidate him, Jason was in the kitchen and said nothing.

It doesn't make them bad it just means some things are considered best left to sort through by yourself.
Andy clearly was trying to lift Jason out if his black mood throughout the day and I'm sure would have encouraged him to join the party. What more can you do.

[Kazanne]

He might as well nominate him. He's already been blasted and turned against for not wet nursing a big ass man when he'd tried all day to be there for him and it was obvious Jason wasn't going to snap out of it no matter what he said or did.
He was ready for that party after being with someone who was depressing the life out of him all day. I loved a tipsy Andy and it was a fun night overall. :laugh:

I'm happy that andy enjoyed himself at the party,I have no issue with that,I also don't think Jason was being miserable at party time ,he said in the DR he didn't dance because "I'm like a transformer running out of batteries" so he just let the others get on and enjoy it,plus I think Jason probably needed that alone time and probably like me and others LIKE to be alone sometimes,it doesn't mean someone is miserable,Jason would have been too embarrassed to dance,some people are,that doesn't make him miserable,I just hope Andy is the friend to him that Jason has been to him,everyone can have down days no matter how big they are,I don't dislike Andy,just beginning to question a few things.I did think his impression of Jason in the DR a tad unamusing but maybe that's just me.

[hot2go]

I like Andy, but if he nominates Jason he will lose all my support. Jason would never nominate him. :nono:

That's a very interesting concept ...imagine if Andy nominates Jason or if Jason nominates Andy....or they nominate each other and are both up for eviction.:laugh::laugh:

Who would you vote to save ?

[hot2go]

I like how Jason is playing the game but I'm also under no illusion, him and Andy are not vulnerable housemates who won't defend themselves ....Jason vowed he would never nominate Charlie but he did, and rightfully so too. Jason is also the one who rocked the house and the BB studio when he annhialated Lateysha...some are saying they don't like the new upbeat Andy but personally I don't like the down beat Jason. It doesn't suit him to labour for too long over being disliked even though I understand how awful that would feel.
If any one has the right to feel sorry for themselves because of the crowd outside its Laura and she doesn't feel remotely sorry for herself, in fact she's told the general public to go and f-ck themselves....which I have to admit is her finest hour, made me laugh.

[hot2go]

Don't forget Andy stood by Jason when Lateysha got thrown out. Not even Jayne did that and Jason had just saved her arse for her.

[jet]

I like both immensely but they def don't stand by each other's side in every situation. When Andy had the whole house against him the night he stuck up for Jason over Lateysha and her bitches calling him a game player, Jason didn't stand by Andy, in fact he sat and listened to Alex who accused Andy of talking rubbish.

When Hughie targeted Andy in front of everyone then followed him to the kitchen to twist the knife and intimidate him, Jason was in the kitchen and said nothing.

It doesn't make them bad it just means some things are considered best left to sort through by yourself.
Andy clearly was trying to lift Jason out if his black mood throughout the day and I'm sure would have encouraged him to join the party. What more can you do.

Exactly! I seen all that too and did I blast Jason? No. Because grown men don't need other grown men to babysit them all of the time and even friends don't always like everything about each other.

[hot2go]

Exactly! I seen all that too and did I blast Jason? No. Because grown men don't need other grown men to babysit them all of the time and even friends don't always like everything about each other.

Yeh I think that's key here....two blokes are very different to two girls or two younger housemates.....if it was Laura and Evelyn then maybe one would give up the party for the other...but, saying that, I actually don't think they would :laugh::laugh: I don't even think Laura likes Evelyn :laugh:

I do recall when it was the beach party divide that Jason clearly said he didn't want to go anyway because he's not a party person. Which is not hard to imagine really.

[jet]

I'm happy that andy enjoyed himself at the party,I have no issue with that,I also don't think Jason was being miserable at party time ,he said in the DR he didn't dance because "I'm like a transformer running out of batteries" so he just let the others get on and enjoy it,plus I think Jason probably needed that alone time and probably like me and others LIKE to be alone sometimes,it doesn't mean someone is miserable,Jason would have been too embarrassed to dance,some people are,that doesn't make him miserable,I just hope Andy is the friend to him that Jason has been to him,everyone can have down days no matter how big they are,I don't dislike Andy,just beginning to question a few things.I did think his impression of Jason in the DR a tad unamusing but maybe that's just me.

But he has been....:conf: look how he stood by him when all the others were lambasting him about Laytesha. He risked being ostracised all over again when he was at last getting on better with most of the HM's. That took guts and a real sense of loyalty. If Jason wasn't in the mood to party, or doesn't like partying fair enough, but I don't like that Andy is being blasted because he DID want to party. (not by you, i know).
As for the DR impression - If everything is weighed up, the support Andy has given him is all for nothing, just brushed away, because he partied and did a Brighton accent while more than a little tipsy. That is how fickle and petty people can be and that's just plain sad imo.

[Jan S]

If any one has the right to feel sorry for themselves because of the crowd outside its Laura and she doesn't feel remotely sorry for herself, in fact she's told the general public to go and f-ck themselves....which I have to admit is her finest hour, made me laugh.me too! love that :laugh:

[Vanessa]

That's a very interesting concept ...imagine if Andy nominates Jason or if Jason nominates Andy....or they nominate each other and are both up for eviction.:laugh::laugh:

Who would you vote to save ?

Jason.

[chuff me dizzy]

Jason.

Ditto ,i planned this week to save both Jason and Andy if they were up ,but not a chance of that now after last nights show ,I hate fake

[Vanessa]

Ditto ,i planned this week to save both Jason and Andy if they were up ,but not a chance of that now after last nights show ,I hate fake

Andy is on his own after last night. He's a snake.

[Kazanne]

But he has been....:conf: look how he stood by him when all the others were lambasting him about Laytesha. He risked being ostracised all over again when he was at last getting on better with most of the HM's. That took guts and a real sense of loyalty. If Jason wasn't in the mood to party, or doesn't like partying fair enough, but I don't like that Andy is being blasted because he DID want to party. (not by you, i know).
As for the DR impression - If everything is weighed up, the support Andy has given him is all for nothing, just brushed away, because he partied and did a Brighton accent while more than a little tipsy. That is how fickle and petty people can be and that's just plain sad imo.

I see that Jet but it could also be said it is fickle to be a fan of someone one day then not the next day just because they have an off day,I like Andy and Jasons friendship,I hope it is ok,Andy is still the better housemate than the others apart from Jason,I don't dislike him I was just questioning it.I think Jason himself was happy for them all he just didn't want to party himself,nothing wrong with that imo.I'm sure they will be fine,but I do feel sorry that Jason has had to listen to Latesha blasting him today,seems very unfair.:wavey:

[jet]

I see that Jet but it could also be said it is fickle to be a fan of someone one day then not the next day just because they have an off day,I like Andy and Jasons friendship,I hope it is ok,Andy is still the better housemate than the others apart from Jason,I don't dislike him I was just questioning it.I think Jason himself was happy for them all he just didn't want to party himself,nothing wrong with that imo.I'm sure they will be fine,but I do feel sorry that Jason has had to listen to Latesha blasting him today,seems very unfair.:wavey:

Who has done that? I only see people liking Andy better than they did before. I haven't seen any posts saying they are no longer going to support Jason, but I've seen plenty saying they aren't going to support Andy any more. (You just said you were questioning him which is fair enough.)
I myself said I was a bit disappointed in Jason but I still liked him, but seeing the vitriol heaped on Andy all day I thought if you can drop my fave HM like that who you professed to like for so little then to hell with it!
I haven't seen the Laytesha thing...so she's going to be on tonight? I could do without having to see her gob again ffs :fist:

[Kazanne]

Who has done that? I only see people liking Andy better than they did before. I haven't seen any posts saying they are no longer going to support Jason, but I've seen plenty saying they aren't going to support Andy any more. (You just said you were questioning him which is fair enough.)
I myself said I was a bit disappointed in Jason but I still liked him, but seeing the vitriol heaped on Andy all day I thought if you can drop my fave HM like that who you professed to like for so little then to hell with it!
I haven't seen the Laytesha thing...so she's going to be on tonight? I could do without having to see her gob again ffs :fist:

I think it's a video link clearly aimed at Jason,i think BB need to give their heads a wobble surely they could have picked a different ex housemate and why are they so hell bent on pissing Jason off:shrug: as for Andy I am sure they will be ok again.

[Vanessa]

I think it's a video link clearly aimed at Jason,i think BB need to give their heads a wobble surely they could have picked a different ex housemate and why are they so hell bent on pissing Jason off:shrug: as for Andy I am sure they will be ok again.

That was unfair. Why aren't they sending Natalie to tell Jayne or Hughie some home truths? I thought not. :mad: