Why did Jade behave as she did? [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

CharlotteSometimes

28-02-2007, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by GRiT

I do not agree. The point I am trying to make with this is that, in my opinion, Jade Goody thought she was one of the most famous people in that house. Shilpa Shetty is more famous but in a niche market. Thus, Jade had never heard of her. If Jade had been confronted by say Cameron Dias or Halle Berry or Julia Robert i.e. Some one who she knew was more famous than she was, I do not think Jade would have kicked off over Oxo cube.

I do think that Jade is very much a loose cannon and no on can predict how she’d act but, any one of the actresses I named would have more fans watching than Jade and thus her attitude would have been different. I note that she never raised her voice to Jermaine. She had a small spat with Dirk but I would go as far as to say that she kissed Jermaines ass.

Actually, she was the most famous person in the house. When she was trying to explain to the American hm's who she was, she just trotted out a soundbite from a few press clippings that her agent no doubt gave her to make her more malleable for the next profit making scheme on the horizon. In all of that, her response was quite artless. The show was screened in the UK. Even if you counted the entire UK population that belongs to an ethnic minority with Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi origins, it would still be dwarfed by the audience figures for BB3. Shilpa is (or rather was) pretty much only famous in India, and again this was a UK show. So from no viable viewpoint was Shilpa more famous than Jade. And correction - it was Shilpa who 'kicked off over an Oxo cube', rather than Jade.

That's quite definitely true. She won't let anyone talk down to her, just because she's working class. She may not have the vocabulary to get her point across as eloquently as some, but credit to her for not being anyone's doormat. She didn't have any argument with Jermaine because he never had the nerve to say any of the garbage he was constantly spouting about her in the bedroom to her face. It's not her fault that Jermaine is a coward, after all.

The_Hitman

28-02-2007, 05:54 AM

Because it's worth millions of pounds to act like she does.

mansi

28-02-2007, 05:55 AM

^not sure what the hell you're talking about...but shilpa is more famous than jade...

The_Hitman

28-02-2007, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
it was Shilpa who 'kicked off over an Oxo cube', rather than Jade.

No it wasnt, it was Jade.

Shilpa went to enquire about the whereabouts of the missing oxo cubes, and after finding out the greedy selfish children had wasted them all on themselves, Shilpa should have told them all off, but she didnt, she tried to contain her justified annoyance until the disrepectful tramp started mouthing off like she is always so desperate to do.

The_Hitman

28-02-2007, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Shilpa is (or rather was) pretty much only famous in India, and again this was a UK show. So from no viable viewpoint was Shilpa more famous than Jade.

How on earth can you justify pretending India doesnt exist just for your argument. Thats ridiculous!:laugh:

CharlotteSometimes

28-02-2007, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by mansi
^not sure what the hell you're talking about...but shilpa is more famous than jade...

She is now, but she wasn't the night that Jade first walked into the house. This is a UK tv show we're talking about. Her popularity in India, and to ethnic minorities elsewhere, is meaningless in the context of the show because it was only screened in the UK. When people tuned into BB this year, virtually all of them knew who Jade was. But only a tiny fraction had any idea who Shilpa was. That's a basic fact, and it really shouldn't need continual, lengthy explanation.

The_Hitman

28-02-2007, 06:12 AM

CharlotteSometimes

28-02-2007, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by The_Hitman

No it wasnt, it was Jade.

Shilpa went to enquire about the whereabouts of the missing oxo cubes, and after finding out the greedy selfish children had wasted them all on themselves, Shilpa should have told them all off, but she didnt, she tried to contain her justified annoyance until the disrepectful tramp started mouthing off like she is always so desperate to do.

In a world of green skies and blue grass, perhaps.

No, Shilpa started whining because her fellow housemates had dared to consume food which they all had equal rights to. Shilpa's response was puerile, petty and childish. She started the argument, and it was clearly her intent to have an argument about pretty much anything from the moment she walked into the room.

Originally posted by The_Hitman

How on earth can you justify pretending India doesnt exist just for your argument. Thats ridiculous!:laugh:

My, aren't you the charmer? I don't need to justify the blatantly obvious, nor pretend anything. The answer to your commennt is right there in the segment of my post which you've quoted. It's a UK show. Ergo, it's not being watched in India (save for a tiny number who may have access to satellite tv, perhaps). Is there anything else you'd like to twist from fact to fiction?

Originally posted by The_Hitman

Haha. Do you know absolutely nothing about reality, or are you just winding people up for a laugh?

It seems you like an argument. Well, fasten your seatbelt, kiss yourself a St. Christopher and pluck yourself a four-leaved clover. But you'll need something a little more substantial than feeble insults. Otherwise, you may as well get your coat right now.

The_Hitman

28-02-2007, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

It seems you like an argument. Well, fasten your seatbelt, kiss yourself a St. Christopher and pluck yourself a four-leaved clover. But you'll need something a little more substantial than feeble insults. Otherwise, you may as well get your coat right now.

You won't be getting an argument from me sugar, Ive seen the stuff that you come out with, and theres nothing much more to be said.

I may come back and play if im bored, but dont expect my A game until you step up your sense of reality a bit.

Sticks

28-02-2007, 06:53 AM

Does the expression "I'm a Scorpion" ring any bells?

mansi

28-02-2007, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by mansi
^not sure what the hell you're talking about...but shilpa is more famous than jade...

She is now, but she wasn't the night that Jade first walked into the house. This is a UK tv show we're talking about. Her popularity in India, and to ethnic minorities elsewhere, is meaningless in the context of the show because it was only screened in the UK. When people tuned into BB this year, virtually all of them knew who Jade was. But only a tiny fraction had any idea who Shilpa was. That's a basic fact, and it really shouldn't need continual, lengthy explanation.

she had over a hundred million fans ... fans in india, pakistan, bangladesh, malaysia, canada, us, uk, australia before she entered the house...i'm sure jade is only known in the UK....jade was jealous and insecure and so she decided to attack her...

CharlotteSometimes

28-02-2007, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by The_Hitman

You won't be getting an argument from me sugar, Ive seen the stuff that you come out with, and theres nothing much more to be said.

I may come back and play if Im bored, but dont expect my A game until you step up your sense of reality a bit.

Veiled platitudes. How sweet. That's cool. We all have our limits.

LOL! It's she who holds the strings, dear. I'm here to debate with (hopefully) intelligent people, not to play Xbox doubles.

CharlotteSometimes

28-02-2007, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by mansi

she had over a hundred million fans ... fans in india, pakistan, bangladesh, malaysia, canada, us, uk, australia before she entered the house...i'm sure jade is only known in the UK....jade was jealous and insecure and so she decided to attack her...

I'm not disputing the accuracy of your comments as to how famous she may have been when she entered the house. That doesn't change the fact that it was a UK show, and in the UK, she was essentially a nobody to the vast majority of the audience. Dirk was also famous worlwide, too. That didn't mean that most of the audience weren't too young to recognise him, either.

mansi

28-02-2007, 07:48 AM

I was talking fame worldwide rather than UK fame...you're right about shilpa not being as famous as jade in the UK pre BB....anyhow.....now shilpa is a somebody and jade is a nobody in the UK

The_Hitman

28-02-2007, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by Sticks
Does the expression "I'm a Scorpion" ring any bells?

If youre on about catching lions then youre out of context. You cant blame the lions for ignoring antagonistic scorpions.

If youre not on about lions, forget I mentioned it.:thumbs:

Ruth

28-02-2007, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by The_Hitman

No it wasnt, it was Jade.

Shilpa went to enquire about the whereabouts of the missing oxo cubes, and after finding out the greedy selfish children had wasted them all on themselves, Shilpa should have told them all off, but she didnt, she tried to contain her justified annoyance until the disrepectful tramp started mouthing off like she is always so desperate to do.

In a world of green skies and blue grass, perhaps.

No, Shilpa started whining because her fellow housemates had dared to consume food which they all had equal rights to. Shilpa's response was puerile, petty and childish. She started the argument, and it was clearly her intent to have an argument about pretty much anything from the moment she walked into the room.

I don't think Shilpa was spoiling for an argument. She was in the kitchen with Cleo and everything was fine. Shilpa asked where the stock cubes were and Cleo said that the girls had had them. There were a lot of people in the house - to have that many stock cubes was selfish. Shilpa made the point, and then she walked away. It was Jade who kicked off (making a point is not the same as kicking off), and carried the argument on.

CharlotteSometimes

28-02-2007, 10:07 AM

I think she went out of her way and positively engineered it. She's a clever lady, and she picked the perfect moment to strike while the iron was hot. Her whole point of starting an argument over a few Oxo cubes was absolutely pathetic, and again it's ridiculous that it's being brushed under the carpet. She went on and on and on, because she needed to keep the argument stoked until it exploded. At that part of the argument, Shilpa was 100% in the wrong. And if Jade had only kept her mouth shut at that point, we perhaps wouldn't be here now. But I think Shilpa would've seized another moment to contrive something in due course. And yes, Jade kicked things off for the second part of the argument, after much provocation from Shilpa earlier. She should have left it as it was. The stills of Jade at full throttle weren't nice to see, nor was some of the language she used nice to hear. But her stance was correct all the same, even though she should've left well alone after part one.

expat

28-02-2007, 10:52 AM

Charlotte Sometimes, you need to EDUCATE yourself. Where in the world did you get the idea that only indian people are captivated by the whole Bollywood scene. I have friends of different ethnicities who prefer to see an Indian movie rather than say, a western one, for various reasons. Italians for example love indian movies and so do lots of English, Norwegians etc who are here and abroad. I think that it is only you living in your own little tiny world, lacking a global outlook and sounding completely and utterly like someone with a partial chav mentality. Examine yourself closely. Get out. Get around. Live life more fully.

Arneldo

28-02-2007, 11:06 AM

Because that's Jade. What you see is what you get with her. Foul mouthed? Yes. Moron? Probably. Ignorant & Jealous? Defiantly. Jade doesn’t exactly practice what she preaches, but she stands up for what she believes, although she doesn’t exactly go about it the right way. I think Jade didn’t like Shilpa because she was too controlling and when Shilpa started off about the Oxo cubes it tipped Jade over the edge. It was a stupid pathetic argument and there was no need for it.

Mrluvaluva

28-02-2007, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Ruth
because she's an ignorant foul-mouthed moron.

The words hit, nail & head come to mind.

Ruth

28-02-2007, 11:31 AM

nodisharmony

02-03-2007, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by bb4eva
Because that's Jade. What you see is what you get with her. Foul mouthed? Yes. Moron? Probably. Ignorant & Jealous? Defiantly. Jade doesn’t exactly practice what she preaches, but she stands up for what she believes, although she doesn’t exactly go about it the right way. I think Jade didn’t like Shilpa because she was too controlling and when Shilpa started off about the Oxo cubes it tipped Jade over the edge. It was a stupid pathetic argument and there was no need for it.

We can only summise what actually happened! The Big Brother show has editors who have NO choice, but to edit it down from 24 hours to less than 1 hour of footage.

What everybody saw, was the juicy bits. The argument, especially. That helps the ratings significantly!

We may have missed, what started all this off. Maybe Shilpa patronised Jade Goody in something very small, but Jade Goody held back, but was boiling with anger inside?

We just don't know. Try not to judge her completely, by what you see. Jade Goody will argue and say stuff. She get's angry and likes to tell people, in a way, which differs to Shilpa Shetty. She is a completely fifferent type of person. More well mannered and a different attitude.

She is NO better than Jade Goody, just different.

The "Race" issue is always going to come to mind, as it is the point that, "Gordon Brown" made, while being in India.

Bad timing or good timing? who knows and who cares!

Jade Goody is now fighting to get back to some kind of normality. She shall continue to try and I hope she wins.

Some positive response would be great.

Give Jade Goody a reason to believe that she can fight and can win. She deserves a "let-off", for such a minor thing, which should not have become so major.

spacebandit

02-03-2007, 10:59 PM

No long winded explanations from apologists will change the simple and basic facts in the case of Jade Goody.

She is a serial bully
She is a loud mouthed pig ignorant harpy.
She is a self absorbed media ***** for whom nothing and nobody [without any exception] are as important to her as her "career" of supposed celebrity

There...wasn't that simple - just like Jade herself

mansi

02-03-2007, 11:07 PM

...because shes a fat, fuc|<ing, self-centred, insecure, phony, ***** who couldn't take the fact that shilpa was much better than her in terms of looks, class, personality. I'm not sure how shilpa was able to remain calm, I would have butchered the pig.

On a more serious note it all stemmed from jealousy, insecurity and the fact that jade was intimidated by shilpa's confidence and intellegence which all led to hatred and racist overtones; shilpa wasn't a follower like jo and danielle which could have gotten to jade, and so it was a clash of two strong personalities.

nodisharmony

03-03-2007, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by spacebandit
No long winded explanations from apologists will change the simple and basic facts in the case of Jade Goody.

She is a serial bully
She is a loud mouthed pig ignorant harpy.
She is a self absorbed media ***** for whom nothing and nobody [without any exception] are as important to her as her "career" of supposed celebrity

There...wasn't that simple - just like Jade herself

You are getting all worked up, over your own opinions of what you see on the Celebrity Big Brother show 2007.

Try to calm down and get that Shilpa/Jade thingy out of your mind.

She came over as bullyish on that show and admitted this and appologised too.

She does shout and create on these reality shows. I have heard many more shoutings and loud mouth's too.

But, what Jade Goody is experiencing now, is certainly more serious than the other stuff. AGREED??

(Pig ignorant harpy?) That says to me, that you don't like her? So, you want others to follow your lead? right!

Jade Goody did have a career and was in great demand too.

Big Brother wanted her twice! Why is that?

(self absorbed media *****)???!!!???

" can't understand that comment? " Is it meant in a sexual way? The word "*****" tends to make it sound, well???

nodisharmony

03-03-2007, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by mansi
...because shes a fat, fuc|<ing, self-centred, insecure, phony, ***** who couldn't take the fact that shilpa was much better than her in terms of looks, class, personality. I'm not sure how shilpa was able to remain calm, I would have butchered the pig.

On a more serious note it all stemmed from jealousy, insecurity and the fact that jade was intimidated by shilpa's confidence and intellegence which all led to hatred and racist overtones; shilpa wasn't a follower like jo and danielle which could have gotten to jade, and so it was a clash of two strong personalities.

Jade doesn't need to be jealous.

She would never say that in an interview, as Jade Goody is not jealous of Shilpa Shetty. Why would she be jealous?

Jade Goody is happy with her life.

Why would she want to swap her life for Shilpa's?

Shilpa Shetty is just a Bollywood film star and that is it.

She may be nice, but so what!! Many people pretend to be nice, but underneath, there is a deeper and darker side, which is hidden from reality shows.

Jade Goody is just a bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny person.

Easy to get on with, if you want to.

There is a saying:- "You can't choose your friends, your friends choose you!"

JADE GOODY WON'T CALL SHILPA SHETTY A FRIEND, BECAUSE IT AIN'T LIKE THAT, OKAY!!!

spacebandit

03-03-2007, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by spacebandit
No long winded explanations from apologists will change the simple and basic facts in the case of Jade Goody.

She is a serial bully
She is a loud mouthed pig ignorant harpy.
She is a self absorbed media ***** for whom nothing and nobody [without any exception] are as important to her as her "career" of supposed celebrity

There...wasn't that simple - just like Jade herself

You are getting all worked up, over your own opinions of what you see on the Celebrity Big Brother show 2007.

Worked up, no my opinion yes - though the most amusing part is how you are the one getting "worked up" because people do not agree with you apologising for the lowlife

Try to calm down and get that Shilpa/Jade thingy out of your mind.

The shilpa jade thingy is academic compared to a serial bully profitting from its actions and people with agendas apologising for them

She came over as bullyish on that show and admitted this and appologised too.

After being carefully coached by her agent, and not seeing her children during this period - her "career" being far too important, and a blind man could spot the lack of sincerity. When you apologise to save your earning potential it is no apology

She does shout and create on these reality shows. I have heard many more shoutings and loud mouth's too.

But none so vile and frequent

But, what Jade Goody is experiencing now, is certainly more serious than the other stuff. AGREED??

Not agreed, she has reaped what she sowed. She thought the GBP would buy into bullying and spite - she was wrong, only the lowlife element bought it, only the lowlife element apologise and excuse her for it - she is a pariah, she should just vanish back into private life

(Pig ignorant harpy?) That says to me, that you don't like her? So, you want others to follow your lead? right!

You post history says you like her and want others to follow your lead ? Right ?

Jade Goody did have a career and was in great demand too.

Arguable, but she blew it big style, and now she needs the PR acumen of John Noel and Co to help her out of the hole she dug, she needs apologists too - cue you

Big Brother wanted her twice! Why is that?

Endemol and John Noel have a relationship that exceeds nepotism, that is why

(self absorbed media *****)???!!!???

" can't understand that comment? " Is it meant in a sexual way? The word "*****" tends to make it sound, well???

The term "media *****" is a well worn expression and is not sexual in context - perhaps you should try reading more than the John Noel PR playbook

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by spacebandit
No long winded explanations from apologists will change the simple and basic facts in the case of Jade Goody.

She is a serial bully
She is a loud mouthed pig ignorant harpy.
She is a self absorbed media ***** for whom nothing and nobody [without any exception] are as important to her as her "career" of supposed celebrity

There...wasn't that simple - just like Jade herself

You are getting all worked up, over your own opinions of what you see on the Celebrity Big Brother show 2007.

Worked up, no my opinion yes - though the most amusing part is how you are the one getting "worked up" because people do not agree with you apologising for the lowlife

Try to calm down and get that Shilpa/Jade thingy out of your mind.

The shilpa jade thingy is academic compared to a serial bully profitting from its actions and people with agendas apologising for them

She came over as bullyish on that show and admitted this and appologised too.

After being carefully coached by her agent, and not seeing her children during this period - her "career" being far too important, and a blind man could spot the lack of sincerity. When you apologise to save your earning potential it is no apology

She does shout and create on these reality shows. I have heard many more shoutings and loud mouth's too.

But none so vile and frequent

But, what Jade Goody is experiencing now, is certainly more serious than the other stuff. AGREED??

Not agreed, she has reaped what she sowed. She thought the GBP would buy into bullying and spite - she was wrong, only the lowlife element bought it, only the lowlife element apologise and excuse her for it - she is a pariah, she should just vanish back into private life

(Pig ignorant harpy?) That says to me, that you don't like her? So, you want others to follow your lead? right!

You post history says you like her and want others to follow your lead ? Right ?

Jade Goody did have a career and was in great demand too.

Arguable, but she blew it big style, and now she needs the PR acumen of John Noel and Co to help her out of the hole she dug, she needs apologists too - cue you

Big Brother wanted her twice! Why is that?

Endemol and John Noel have a relationship that exceeds nepotism, that is why

(self absorbed media *****)???!!!???

" can't understand that comment? " Is it meant in a sexual way? The word "*****" tends to make it sound, well???

The term "media *****" is a well worn expression and is not sexual in context - perhaps you should try reading more than the John Noel PR playbook

Very thorough response!!

SHOULD I BOTHER REPLYING??? OKAY!!
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Your "Media *****" comment, is just your opinion of a very successful person, who has come from nowhere and made it big.

Perhaps, "Chantelle" could be described as the same? I wouldn't agree with that! and nor would Jade.
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You talk about Big Brother and Endemol. All I know, is, that they wanted her and had cash to give. The rest of your remarks are invisible to me?
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Jade's career has had a nasty knock. Worse than anyone could imagine. I am here to support her and fight her corner, but she has her priorities with her children. The career part, is not so important now.

She has enough to retire!
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I don't expect people to follow my lead. You, want people to follow your lead. I just tell it like it is, like the lovely Jade Goody would. No lies told from me. Just facts and information.
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You say that, you reap what you sow?

If Jade Goody had argued and taunted, (Cleo), you think that she would have been placed in this position?

Think again!!

This was about Racism and nothing else.

Shilpa Shetty is an Indian, bollywood film star and many people were offended, worldwide.

It is ONLY about that, which has placed Jade Goody and the girls in this position.
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You say, "None so vile and frequent". Jade Goody must be a housemate that nobody would want to know, then?

How come, many housemates talk to her and also stay friends, even after the show?

Jade Goody is very sociable. But, along the way, she will meet some people who just don't click with her. Like, "Rick Waller", (for example).

She said that he smelt! "He did smell, Jade was telling the truth"

She said that he could do better with losing his weight, that he didn't try much". This is true. Look at Jade Goody and what she has done to lose weight.

Rick should buy her video and see if he can prove Jade Goody wrong?
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Jade Goody did admit that she was rather bullyish towards Shilpa and was going to make ammends.

She was in tears, due to her worrying about her childrens safety and also, herself and her mother too. She also wants a life, without all of this nastiness. I don't blame her!
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The Shilpa/bullying thing was not that bad. It was much worse on other reality shows, with Jade Goody, not even being there. Other housemates causing havoc.

Jade Goody is in demand, much more, when her acted bad behavior is present. It makes everyone money and Jade Goody will make the person who she has had a slight disagreement with, much better, with a hug usually and some sympathetic words from a nice girl, who does not bear grudges.
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You will get worked up, as there are very few, if any people who shall come on here and support Jade Goody in such a passionate manner. Using facts and picking holes in your theories, of what Jade Goody has apparently done wrong?

I expect a mass of Jade-Haters to be present.

But there is still right's on Jade Goody's camp. The right to NOT be called a racist person, when their is NO evidence to support this matter.

Endemol will catagorically say, that they will never let racism happen on the Big Brother show.

There may have been some words, or sentances, which some may have construed has being so, but they certainly weren't.

None of them hate Indian or Asian people. They have friends who are of that particular race or even mixed race. It is just the media, getting out of hand and Jade Goody, who has been much loved by many people, mostly in Englands green and pleasant land, is now, trapped, right in the middle of this mess.

Arneldo

04-03-2007, 01:04 AM

Can i just say, nodisharmony, im loving your posts.

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by bb4eva
Can i just say, nodisharmony, Im loving your posts.

Thankyou!

I just try to get the message across.

People just won't listen! But I know exactly how Jade Goody has been placed.

It is unjust and she will succeed.

NEVERMIND THE JADE-HATERS.

I am here to support her again, like I did before.

xGemmax

04-03-2007, 01:35 AM

Because that is Jade. Loud, foul mouthed and rude. She may be what you see is what you get, but i don't think anyone likes what they see!

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by xGemmax
Because that is Jade. Loud, foul mouthed and rude. She may be what you see is what you get, but i don't think anyone likes what they see!

A lot of what people see of Jade Goody, in reality shows, like Big Brother, would put people off.

She does show that she can easily lose her temper.

But Jade Goody has been on the TV many times and we get to see the nicer side of her.

She's NOT all bad and deserves to be treated better

and, not have to fight to be liked and not accused of being something which she is not. a (racist person)

Sophii3x

04-03-2007, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by xGemmax
Because that is Jade. Loud, foul mouthed and rude. She may be what you see is what you get, but i don't think anyone likes what they see!

Well said Gemma:thumbs:

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Sophii3x
Originally posted by xGemmax
Because that is Jade. Loud, foul mouthed and rude. She may be what you see is what you get, but i don't think anyone likes what they see!

Well said Gemma:thumbs:

Reality show ratings like her.

She gives to the viewing public, what they want!

Many do like Jade Goody and there is nothing wrong with that. Look beyond the arguments!!

IF YOU CAN?

Sophii3x

04-03-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Sophii3x
Originally posted by xGemmax
Because that is Jade. Loud, foul mouthed and rude. She may be what you see is what you get, but i don't think anyone likes what they see!

Well said Gemma:thumbs:

Reality show ratings like her.

She gives to the viewing public, what they want!

Many do like Jade Goody and there is nothing wrong with that. Look beyond the arguments!!

IF YOU CAN?

She doesn't give me what I want. I can't stand the woman.

Nowhere

04-03-2007, 10:16 AM

^Ditto
But I also don't think she deserves all this. Paedophiles are treated with more hospitality..

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Sophii3x
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Sophii3x
Originally posted by xGemmax
Because that is Jade. Loud, foul mouthed and rude. She may be what you see is what you get, but i don't think anyone likes what they see!

Well said Gemma:thumbs:

Reality show ratings like her.

She gives to the viewing public, what they want!

Many do like Jade Goody and there is nothing wrong with that. Look beyond the arguments!!

IF YOU CAN?

She doesn't give me what I want. I can't stand the woman.

I understand you're opinion and accept it.

I don't like certain celebrities or even certain past housemates.

I am not a fan of "Pete Burns". I just feel this way!!

BUT, what Jade Goody is experiencing right now, is beyond belief.
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A child can get stabbed in the arm and the guilty party will go to prison and be out in 2 years. Maybe less!

They will walk the streets and not get hated either!

What has happened to Jade Goody is a "life sentance", unless she clears her good name.

AND WHAT THE **** HAS SHE REALLY DONE WRONG???

I am bewilded.

The_Hitman

04-03-2007, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

BUT, what Jade Goody is experiencing right now, is beyond belief.

No it's not, it's tame media hostlity which does not even represent the opinion of the British public. Any claims that something bad is actually HAPPENING to Jade are completely unfounded lies. Big Brother is media season. It is when 10 people live in a house for a few weeks so that the public can give opinions on their actions. If your actions are unacceptable then you will be the subject of media hostility like Jade is now.

Nothing has happened to Jade that she doesnt deserve, and nothing will. Fortunately, she lives in a society that will protect her from harm, so stop whining on about her life being in danger.

AND WHAT THE **** HAS SHE REALLY DONE WRONG???

I am bewilded.

Jade is a bully. An arrogant, selfish ego-maniac who can only play the role of 'freind' for so long before she starts shouting and abusing people. Jade creates headlines, and nothing of any positive use to counteract it.

NODISHARMONY-- The most annoying thing about this little campaign of yours is that people like myself stuck up for Jade when people were being unfair to her on here, some people to a far greater extent than myself. The reality now is, in the light of the horrible behaviour on display from Jade, it is time for all good people to stand up and say it was wrong of her, and people like her shouldnt be given admiration and lucrative opportunities as a 'celebrity'. We have morals in this country, and when people behave like Jade on a repetitive basis, her priveliges must be stopped.

Yes the country is interested in the abuse and the theatrics, but that is no reason for it to be rewarded. The rewards that Jade Goody recieves from her behaviour is a fault in the system, not some sort of prize that she has earned.

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by nodisharmony

BUT, what Jade Goody is experiencing right now, is beyond belief.

No it's not, it's tame media hostlity which does not even represent the opinion of the British public. Any claims that something bad is actually HAPPENING to Jade are completely unfounded lies. Big Brother is media season. It is when 10 people live in a house for a few weeks so that the public can give opinions on their actions. If your actions are unacceptable then you will be the subject of media hostility like Jade is now.

Nothing has happened to Jade that she doesnt deserve, and nothing will. Fortunately, she lives in a society that will protect her from harm, so stop whining on about her life being in danger.

AND WHAT THE **** HAS SHE REALLY DONE WRONG???

I am bewilded.

Jade is a bully. An arrogant, selfish ego-maniac who can only play the role of 'freind' for so long before she starts shouting and abusing people. Jade creates headlines, and nothing of any positive use to counteract it.

NODISHARMONY-- The most annoying thing about this little campaign of yours is that people like myself stuck up for Jade when people were being unfair to her on here, some people to a far greater extent than myself. The reality now is, in the light of the horrible behaviour on display from Jade, it is time for all good people to stand up and say it was wrong of her, and people like her shouldnt be given admiration and lucrative opportunities as a 'celebrity'. We have morals in this country, and when people behave like Jade on a repetitive basis, her priveliges must be stopped.

Yes the country is interested in the abuse and the theatrics, but that is no reason for it to be rewarded. The rewards that Jade Goody recieves from her behaviour is a fault in the system, not some sort of prize that she has earned.

Thanks for explaining to me how Big Brother works!

I am well aware of this and I am sure that most members of this forum are also aware of the obvious. (No need to insult my intelligence!!)

Media hostility is caused by "spin".

Careful editing on a reality show, to make things look racial. Is the reason that Jade Goody and the girl's are in this position now.

The argument between Shilpa and Jade Goody was all over an OXO cube. "Nothing racist", just a disagreement.

Look at the argument again on Youtube.com and see when Shilpa could have easily had opportunities to hault things.

She kept on at Jade and Jade got angry, it is just the way things panned out...
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The main part that separates this January show and all the other reality shows, is the "Racial" angle.

People going MAD, (Totally). Over edited footage.

Jade Goody has received plenty of hate! and it is VERY evident today. "Don't underestimate this!!!!"

Jade Goody isn't giving in. She is fighting her corner and is having to do it alone. Jo & Danielle are thinking of themselves. So Jade Goody has had to do the same and is doing much more too. and has been singled out as being the worst of the lot.

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You state that, "Nothing will happen to her!" YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT, CAN YOU?

There are NO guarantees in life.

But, there is ONE guarantee. There are fanatical people out there. Many people who consider Jade as a role-model for RACIST people!

This is something which is totally untrue! Jade Is NOT part of any of that stuff and would make friends with anyone, who Jade Goody feels is sincere and honest.

She does have a problem with constant liars. I do to!!

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You call Jade Goody a bully?

BECAUSE SHE HAS ARGUMENTS AND MAKES COMMENTS!!

She is just having a disagreement.

She is NOT scrared to stand right in front of them and say what she thinks! Jade is happy to hear what they have to say, "In their own defence", Then, she will voice her own opinions.

JADE DOESN'T BEAR GRUDGES!!

She's happier making up with people and BULLYING is not her thing.

People look at some of the edited footage and believe that she is JUST a bully, but it is edited and if you saw the whole build up to most of these arguments/discussions/disagreements, you might see the real reason.

Don't be so sure of yourself! when you have such little to go on.
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We are a nation of Reality Show lovers! It is just the way things are right now. SORRY, it is just like that.

Jade Goody has been in the right place at the right time.

She made it big, where others have fallen by the wayside. I know that people have gone very angry about her. It is a sad situation.

I was involved in supporting Jade Goody herself on her own forum. But sadly, things have changed! and the damage to her character is very real and alive, here and now!

I have read through your opinions of Jade Goody, in your post. You have many unanswered questions, which I shall try and answer of the days and weeks to follow.

I intend to make a new topic/thread which will be VERY interesting to Jade Goody supporters and give them some confidence that Jade Goody will have a chance to have a life, without fear and hatred on such a major scale.

JADE-HATERS ARE MANY AND IT WILL LESSEN, BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME AND A WHOLE NEW ANGLE, WHICH I WILL ADDRESS.

The_Hitman

04-03-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Thanks for explaining to me how Big Brother works!

I am well aware of this and I am sure that most members of this forum are also aware of the obvious. (No need to insult my intelligence!!)

You need all the explanation you can get. Your understanding of events and reality is seriously misguided to say the very least.

Every single one of your posts in response to one of mine is crammed full of assumptions which are completely incorrect.

I dont think you are aware of how much rubbish you talk inbetween your 'strange' opinions, but believe me, it's ALOT.

Your campaign to FORCE people to think like you think is something Id expect from an advocate of Jade Goodys behaviour.

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by nodisharmony

Thanks for explaining to me how Big Brother works!

I am well aware of this and I am sure that most members of this forum are also aware of the obvious. (No need to insult my intelligence!!)

You need all the explanation you can get. Your understanding of events and reality is seriously misguided to say the very least.

Every single one of your posts in response to one of mine is crammed full of assumptions which are completely incorrect.

I dont think you are aware of how much rubbish you talk inbetween your 'strange' opinions, but believe me, it's ALOT.

Your campaign to FORCE people to think like you think is something Id expect from an advocate of Jade Goodys behaviour.

I can only judge from what I see and know.

What I choose to divulge to you or anyone else, is written in my many posts.

I know full well how Big Brother and other reality shows work. Thankyou for your critisism, I shall take it on board.

My responses are Facts and proving that your own assumptions are just that! (assumptions).

You state that she is a BULLY, I state, that, many of her arguments can look like bullying, at times! Jade admits that herself. That is FACT.

Also, I say that many of these Arguments/discussions & disagreements are just that! Not bullying. These are also FACTS.

Jade has bullied and I won't dispute this, as Jade Goody has admitted it.

Sometimes, she can't tell the difference between the two.

If an interviewer spent 10 minutes discussing this with her, you'd see my point is very factual.

One Jade-Hater's "rubbish", is another person's "true facts!"

Maybe you are just stating your own opinion, because she repulses you?

I am not condoning bullying and certainly NOT racism, which Jade Goody is NOT part of.

I am NOT forcing anyone on here. I am stating facts and proving what I can prove. Many people are blinded by this Jade/Shilpa scandal and I am putting some people straight on what it is all about and Jade Goody's reasons for this.

She needs help, but is also owning up to what she did. BUT, as she is NO expert on being in this terrible position, she is making mistakes along the way, when she is being asked questions in interviews and Jade Goody is saying things, which could still be construed WRONG!!

Like admitting that she has been a bully at times and saying comments that could sound racist. But were'nt actually meant to be that way.

THIS NEEDS A MUCH MORE CLARIFIED DISTINCTION OF THOSE ADMISSIONS OF GUILT, WHICH IS HARD FOR JADE TO EXPLAIN!!

mansi

04-03-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by mansi
...because shes a fat, fuc|<ing, self-centred, insecure, phony, ***** who couldn't take the fact that shilpa was much better than her in terms of looks, class, personality. I'm not sure how shilpa was able to remain calm, I would have butchered the pig.

On a more serious note it all stemmed from jealousy, insecurity and the fact that jade was intimidated by shilpa's confidence and intellegence which all led to hatred and racist overtones; shilpa wasn't a follower like jo and danielle which could have gotten to jade, and so it was a clash of two strong personalities.

Jade doesn't need to be jealous.

She would never say that in an interview, as Jade Goody is not jealous of Shilpa Shetty. Why would she be jealous?

Jade Goody is happy with her life.

Why would she want to swap her life for Shilpa's?

Shilpa Shetty is just a Bollywood film star and that is it.

She may be nice, but so what!! Many people pretend to be nice, but underneath, there is a deeper and darker side, which is hidden from reality shows.

Jade Goody is just a bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny person.

Easy to get on with, if you want to.

There is a saying:- "You can't choose your friends, your friends choose you!"

JADE GOODY WON'T CALL SHILPA SHETTY A FRIEND, BECAUSE IT AIN'T LIKE THAT, OKAY!!!

Admin: post deleted. Comments like this are against forum rules. James

nodisharmony

04-03-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by mansi
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by mansi
...because shes a fat, fuc|<ing, self-centred, insecure, phony, ***** who couldn't take the fact that shilpa was much better than her in terms of looks, class, personality. I'm not sure how shilpa was able to remain calm, I would have butchered the pig.

On a more serious note it all stemmed from jealousy, insecurity and the fact that jade was intimidated by shilpa's confidence and intellegence which all led to hatred and racist overtones; shilpa wasn't a follower like jo and danielle which could have gotten to jade, and so it was a clash of two strong personalities.

Jade doesn't need to be jealous.

She would never say that in an interview, as Jade Goody is not jealous of Shilpa Shetty. Why would she be jealous?

Jade Goody is happy with her life.

Why would she want to swap her life for Shilpa's?

Shilpa Shetty is just a Bollywood film star and that is it.

She may be nice, but so what!! Many people pretend to be nice, but underneath, there is a deeper and darker side, which is hidden from reality shows.

Jade Goody is just a bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny person.

Easy to get on with, if you want to.

There is a saying:- "You can't choose your friends, your friends choose you!"

JADE GOODY WON'T CALL SHILPA SHETTY A FRIEND, BECAUSE IT AIN'T LIKE THAT, OKAY!!!

you need a slap in the head to knock some sense into your thick head...you keep rambling on about things that are irrelevant to the thread...

Why did Jade behave the way she did?

You are correct!

The topic is about Jade Goody and why she acted like that to Shilpa Shetty.

Shilpa and Jade Goody are completely different people. I am not talking about race, it is nothing to do with that.

Jade Goody got on with Shilpa, to start with. But things went horribly wrong. Jade found her to be an irrotant. Why this was so, only Jade Goody would really know.

There is editing on the show and maybe something got said, which was "bird-whistled" out? This is possible, so we won't be sure.

Jade acted like this, because, that is how Jade deals with situations like this on "reality shows".

Maybe she does play to the audience watching? I cannot answer that and nor can yourself.

I respect you for being a fan of "Shilpa Shetty" and from what I personally witnessed from watching the show. Shilpa Shetty seemed to do, very little wrong.

In real life, Shilpa could be very different? Jade Goody is very up-front with her opinions. This is evident. However, people are saying that, every argument or discussion is (bullying). Also, she is being accused of being a racist.

Shilpa Shetty has said that Jade's comments were not meant as racial attacks on her. She doesn't consider Jade Goody as being a racist person, but, was upset by what took place in the Big Brother house.

I think this is a lesson to all.

Regarding Big Brother:- "If you can't stand the heat? Get out of the Big Brother kitchen"

Sticks

04-03-2007, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by mansi
you need a slap in the head to knock some sense into your thick head...you keep rambling on about things that are irrelevant to the thread...

And you need to re-read the forum rules

Advocation of physical violence against a HM or fellow poster will not be tollerated. Consider yourself on report :nono:

James

04-03-2007, 04:49 PM

^^^^^ What he said. I've deleted a post above.

Rory

05-03-2007, 03:15 AM

Probably because she felt she had to impress the others or that Shilpa was more famous than her, somewhere.

Ruth

05-03-2007, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade doesn't need to be jealous.

She would never say that in an interview, as Jade Goody is not jealous of Shilpa Shetty. Why would she be jealous?

Jade Goody is happy with her life.

Why would she want to swap her life for Shilpa's?

Shilpa Shetty is just a Bollywood film star and that is it.

Do you know Jade personally or something? You tell people off for assuming, but you are doing the exact same thing.

A Bollywood film star is a pretty big deal. A bigger deal than being famous for being stupid, that's for sure.

She may be nice, but so what!! Many people pretend to be nice, but underneath, there is a deeper and darker side, which is hidden from reality shows.

So now you're saying that although you saw no evidence to suggest that Shilpa isn't a nice person, it was probably hidden? Because it suits your theory? We all know the show is edited, but has it occurred to you that there was no deeper and darker side shown, because Shilpa doesn't actually have one?

Jade Goody is just a bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny person.

Depends on what you class as 'bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny'. People laugh at Jade, not with her. She certainly did not come across as friendly, quirky or bubbly. Just my opinion of course.

Easy to get on with, if you want to.

Well obviously not, because Shilpa wanted to get on with her, and was not able to.

There is a saying:- "You can't choose your friends, your friends choose you!"

Yes - and looking at the friends that chose Jade in the house - doesn't say much for Jade really.

Ruth

05-03-2007, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Your "Media *****" comment, is just your opinion of a very successful person, who has come from nowhere and made it big.

Perhaps, "Chantelle" could be described as the same? I wouldn't agree with that! and nor would Jade.

And your comments are just your opinion of Jade as well. She is successful because she has a canny agent, and for some reason, people seem obsessed with making celebrities out of people who have zilch talent.

I wouldn't class Chantelle the same as Jade. I'm not a fan of Chantelle, but she seems a basically nice person.

You talk about Big Brother and Endemol. All I know, is, that they wanted her and had cash to give. The rest of your remarks are invisible to me?

How convenient, that everything you don't agree with is invisible to you. What a lovely world that must create for you. Endemol and John Noel Management are tightly linked. Davina, Dermot and Russell all share the same management as Jade - John Noel Management. Jade generates money for BB - that is why she was put back in the house. The majority of viewers were against the idea, but hey, who cares what they want?

Jade's career has had a nasty knock. Worse than anyone could imagine. I am here to support her and fight her corner, but she has her priorities with her children. The career part, is not so important now.

Jade's 'career'. Pffft. I'm sick of all these celebrities - Jade is the worst offender - who manage to become celebrities despite having not one atom of talent or intelligence. If her career bombs (which sadly it won't), it will be no loss to the world of celebrity.

She has enough to retire!

So why doesn't she do that?

I don't expect people to follow my lead. You, want people to follow your lead. I just tell it like it is, like the lovely Jade Goody would. No lies told from me. Just facts and information.

No - not facts and information. Just opinions, which you are perfectly entitled to. But it's very easy to call your opinions facts, and to dismiss other people's opinions as rubbish.

You say that, you reap what you sow?

If Jade Goody had argued and taunted, (Cleo), you think that she would have been placed in this position?

Who knows? We can all speculate can't we?

Shilpa Shetty is an Indian, bollywood film star and many people were offended, worldwide.

It is ONLY about that, which has placed Jade Goody and the girls in this position.

Yes, that's kind of the point.

You say, "None so vile and frequent". Jade Goody must be a housemate that nobody would want to know, then?

How come, many housemates talk to her and also stay friends, even after the show?

Who exactly are we talking about here?

Jade Goody is very sociable. But, along the way, she will meet some people who just don't click with her. Like, "Rick Waller", (for example).

She said that he smelt! "He did smell, Jade was telling the truth"

Were you there? Do you know for a fact that he smelt? Do you not think that it was a cruel thing to say in any event?

And do you know Jade personally or something? You seem to know an awful lot about her.

She said that he could do better with losing his weight, that he didn't try much". This is true. Look at Jade Goody and what she has done to lose weight.

No doubt losing weight would be good for Rik.

What has Jade Goody done to lose weight? What about the secret liposuction she had?

Rick should buy her video and see if he can prove Jade Goody wrong?

You mean the video that she conned people with? On which she conveniently forgot to mention that she had had liposuction?

Jade Goody did admit that she was rather bullyish towards Shilpa and was going to make ammends.

Yet here you are saying that it was just a disagreement? Jade was not 'rather bullyish' - she was completely vile.

She was in tears, due to her worrying about her childrens safety and also, herself and her mother too. She also wants a life, without all of this nastiness. I don't blame her!

I truly hope her children are safe. As for worrying about her children's and mother's safety - clearly she didn't think about that in the house did she? Or maybe she was arrogant enough to assume that the British public would be automatically on her side?

Jade Goody is in demand, much more, when her acted bad behavior is present. It makes everyone money and Jade Goody will make the person who she has had a slight disagreement with, much better, with a hug usually and some sympathetic words from a nice girl, who does not bear grudges.

Where did you get your crystal ball?

You will get worked up, as there are very few, if any people who shall come on here and support Jade Goody in such a passionate manner. Using facts and picking holes in your theories, of what Jade Goody has apparently done wrong?

I don't HATE Jade - hate is too strong a word. However, your theories have got holes all over them. And what facts have you used? They're just opinions.

There is still right's on Jade Goody's camp. The right to NOT be called a racist person, when their is NO evidence to support this matter.

And the right of Shilpa Shetty not to be called a "f---ing loser" and "a w---er."

Endemol will catagorically say, that they will never let racism happen on the Big Brother show.

Well of course they will!! It would be naive to assume that they would say anything else. Just because they say it doesn't make it so.

There may have been some words, or sentances, which some may have construed has being so, but they certainly weren't.

None of them hate Indian or Asian people. They have friends who are of that particular race or even mixed race. It is just the media, getting out of hand and Jade Goody, who has been much loved by many people, mostly in Englands green and pleasant land, is now, trapped, right in the middle of this mess.

And again, I have to ask - do you know Jade personally? Otherwise, you have no basis for your 'facts'.

nodisharmony

05-03-2007, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade doesn't need to be jealous.

She would never say that in an interview, as Jade Goody is not jealous of Shilpa Shetty. Why would she be jealous?

Jade Goody is happy with her life.

Why would she want to swap her life for Shilpa's?

Shilpa Shetty is just a Bollywood film star and that is it.

Do you know Jade personally or something? You tell people off for assuming, but you are doing the exact same thing.

A Bollywood film star is a pretty big deal. A bigger deal than being famous for being stupid, that's for sure.

She may be nice, but so what!! Many people pretend to be nice, but underneath, there is a deeper and darker side, which is hidden from reality shows.

So now you're saying that although you saw no evidence to suggest that Shilpa isn't a nice person, it was probably hidden? Because it suits your theory? We all know the show is edited, but has it occurred to you that there was no deeper and darker side shown, because Shilpa doesn't actually have one?

Jade Goody is just a bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny person.

Depends on what you class as 'bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny'. People laugh at Jade, not with her. She certainly did not come across as friendly, quirky or bubbly. Just my opinion of course.

Easy to get on with, if you want to.

Well obviously not, because Shilpa wanted to get on with her, and was not able to.

There is a saying:- "You can't choose your friends, your friends choose you!"

Yes - and looking at the friends that chose Jade in the house - doesn't say much for Jade really.

To be a Bollywood film star is a great job to have and Shilpa Shetty does a great job.

Jade does a great job too, but is very different to Shilpa in every single way.

This is more than likely, why they didn't click?
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Shilpa Shetty is a human being with faults and also will get into a temper herself. That is obvious!!

People have looked at Jade Goody as the devil and Shilpa Shetty as the angel.

Click on this link: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1203

This is an article which places Shilpa in a more darker light.

But I am Not her to champion or diss Shilpa

I am here to prove Jade Goody is better than you think, etc..

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Jade can be bubbly, quirky and funny! You may laugh at her? But, many laugh with her. Danielle and Jo thought she was funny!

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Shilpa didn't mix well with Jade and Jade didn't mix well with Shilpa. You can't force it?

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Jade Goody is going to be friends with anyone who wants to know and be friends with Jade.

Danielle and Jo got on with Jade Goody.

She could relate with them. Nothing wrong with that!!!

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Mrluvaluva

05-03-2007, 07:53 PM

I think we all know the story you linked by now nodisharmony.

mansi

05-03-2007, 08:00 PM

yes jade did quite a good job of showing how ugly she is....there differences in profession have nothing to do with them not getting along well with one another...jade got along with everyone else?

who said shilpa doesn't make mistakes, we all make mistakes, jade chose to be the devil with her foul mouth...shilpa was laughing at the guy and how he was making a fool out of himself by dressing up...anyhow that's what I believe...

nodisharmony

05-03-2007, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Your "Media *****" comment, is just your opinion of a very successful person, who has come from nowhere and made it big.

Perhaps, "Chantelle" could be described as the same? I wouldn't agree with that! and nor would Jade.

And your comments are just your opinion of Jade as well. She is successful because she has a canny agent, and for some reason, people seem obsessed with making celebrities out of people who have zilch talent.

I wouldn't class Chantelle the same as Jade. I'm not a fan of Chantelle, but she seems a basically nice person.

You talk about Big Brother and Endemol. All I know, is, that they wanted her and had cash to give. The rest of your remarks are invisible to me?

How convenient, that everything you don't agree with is invisible to you. What a lovely world that must create for you. Endemol and John Noel Management are tightly linked. Davina, Dermot and Russell all share the same management as Jade - John Noel Management. Jade generates money for BB - that is why she was put back in the house. The majority of viewers were against the idea, but hey, who cares what they want?

Jade's career has had a nasty knock. Worse than anyone could imagine. I am here to support her and fight her corner, but she has her priorities with her children. The career part, is not so important now.

Jade's 'career'. Pffft. I'm sick of all these celebrities - Jade is the worst offender - who manage to become celebrities despite having not one atom of talent or intelligence. If her career bombs (which sadly it won't), it will be no loss to the world of celebrity.

She has enough to retire!

So why doesn't she do that?

I don't expect people to follow my lead. You, want people to follow your lead. I just tell it like it is, like the lovely Jade Goody would. No lies told from me. Just facts and information.

No - not facts and information. Just opinions, which you are perfectly entitled to. But it's very easy to call your opinions facts, and to dismiss other people's opinions as rubbish.

You say that, you reap what you sow?

If Jade Goody had argued and taunted, (Cleo), you think that she would have been placed in this position?

Who knows? We can all speculate can't we?

Shilpa Shetty is an Indian, bollywood film star and many people were offended, worldwide.

It is ONLY about that, which has placed Jade Goody and the girls in this position.

Yes, that's kind of the point.

You say, "None so vile and frequent". Jade Goody must be a housemate that nobody would want to know, then?

How come, many housemates talk to her and also stay friends, even after the show?

Who exactly are we talking about here?

Jade Goody is very sociable. But, along the way, she will meet some people who just don't click with her. Like, "Rick Waller", (for example).

She said that he smelt! "He did smell, Jade was telling the truth"

Were you there? Do you know for a fact that he smelt? Do you not think that it was a cruel thing to say in any event?

And do you know Jade personally or something? You seem to know an awful lot about her.

She said that he could do better with losing his weight, that he didn't try much". This is true. Look at Jade Goody and what she has done to lose weight.

No doubt losing weight would be good for Rik.

What has Jade Goody done to lose weight? What about the secret liposuction she had?

Rick should buy her video and see if he can prove Jade Goody wrong?

You mean the video that she conned people with? On which she conveniently forgot to mention that she had had liposuction?

Jade Goody did admit that she was rather bullyish towards Shilpa and was going to make ammends.

Yet here you are saying that it was just a disagreement? Jade was not 'rather bullyish' - she was completely vile.

She was in tears, due to her worrying about her childrens safety and also, herself and her mother too. She also wants a life, without all of this nastiness. I don't blame her!

I truly hope her children are safe. As for worrying about her children's and mother's safety - clearly she didn't think about that in the house did she? Or maybe she was arrogant enough to assume that the British public would be automatically on her side?

Jade Goody is in demand, much more, when her acted bad behavior is present. It makes everyone money and Jade Goody will make the person who she has had a slight disagreement with, much better, with a hug usually and some sympathetic words from a nice girl, who does not bear grudges.

Where did you get your crystal ball?

You will get worked up, as there are very few, if any people who shall come on here and support Jade Goody in such a passionate manner. Using facts and picking holes in your theories, of what Jade Goody has apparently done wrong?

I don't HATE Jade - hate is too strong a word. However, your theories have got holes all over them. And what facts have you used? They're just opinions.

There is still right's on Jade Goody's camp. The right to NOT be called a racist person, when their is NO evidence to support this matter.

And the right of Shilpa Shetty not to be called a "f---ing loser" and "a w---er."

Endemol will catagorically say, that they will never let racism happen on the Big Brother show.

Well of course they will!! It would be naive to assume that they would say anything else. Just because they say it doesn't make it so.

There may have been some words, or sentances, which some may have construed has being so, but they certainly weren't.

None of them hate Indian or Asian people. They have friends who are of that particular race or even mixed race. It is just the media, getting out of hand and Jade Goody, who has been much loved by many people, mostly in Englands green and pleasant land, is now, trapped, right in the middle of this mess.

And again, I have to ask - do you know Jade personally? Otherwise, you have no basis for your 'facts'.

You judge Chantelle on what exactly??

____________________________________________

You say that the majority of people didn't want Jade there?

Where are your facts?

You are also saying that their is corruption! and you bring the lovely Davina McCall into the equasion too.

____________________________________________

Jade Goody is a reality show girl and she is up for quiz shows, talent shows, singing shows, interviews, mags, newspapers and most of all reality shows.

She is into perfume, a beauty salon & fitness.

Not so bad really!!

____________________________________________

Richard Branson could retire? Julia Roberts could retire? Bill Gates could retire?

I won't go on listing the next 5 million names!!!

Jade Goody does not want to retire, okay!!

____________________________________________

If Jade Goody had bullied (Cleo) she wouldn't be in this position. That is FACT!!!

____________________________________________

The fact that Jade said that, "Rick Waller" smelt was not just her opinion. It is just that, other housemates are more tactful and Jade Goody says it how it is. Also, it stirs things up a bit. Maybe she is playing to the cameras?

Has that crossed your minds?

____________________________________________

Jade Goody did do Liposuction and also, she did fitness stuff too.

Rick Waller has a lot more weight to lose and needs a more sympathetic trainer to help him.

I do wish Rick well and hope he does lose weight!!

_____________________________________________

Jade Goody's fitness video has sold well and helped many people.

People loved Jade Goody and went out and bought it.

_____________________________________________

Jade Goody is not interested in hind-sight.

What Jade Goody is interested in, is, (right now and the future)

If she thinks that for one second, that her children could be in danger. Jade Goody will sort things and she is doing that right now!

_____________________________________________

Endemol cannot lie about anything. They are answerable to the laws of this country.

There has been judgements made from the recorded footage from the show

and Endemol have come out of this, legally squeaky clean.

_____________________________________________

OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!

If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

Whether they are actually true?

That is another story.

However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.

Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.

James

05-03-2007, 08:21 PM

Blimey!

Ruth

06-03-2007, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
You judge Chantelle on what exactly??

I didn't say I judged her. However, my opinion of Chantelle is based on her in the house last year, and in interviews since. She seems a nice enough girl.

____________________________________________

You say that the majority of people didn't want Jade there?

Where are your facts?

Where are your facts to support that most people did want her there? There was annoyance when she went in - far more people were against it on here, and other forums than were for it.

You are also saying that their is corruption! and you bring the lovely Davina McCall into the equasion too.

I'm saying that they allowed racism to get viewing figures, and only stepped in when they realised the extent of the outcry about it. I'm not blaming Davina personally - she is Endemol's puppet.

Jade Goody is a reality show girl and she is up for quiz shows, talent shows, singing shows, interviews, mags, newspapers and most of all reality shows.

I've seen Jade on a couple of quiz shows - she didn't know anyof the answers, she doesn't have any discernible talent, can't sing to the best of my knowledge. The interviews, mags, newspapers and reality shows all come under the same banner. But that is all irrelevant to the point we are discussing.

She is into perfume, a beauty salon & fitness.

Or her manager is?

Richard Branson could retire? Julia Roberts could retire? Bill Gates could retire?

I won't go on listing the next 5 million names!!!

And they day that they cause a disgrace and an international incident, I hope that they do!

Jade Goody does not want to retire, okay!!

Well yes, that much is obvious by her desperate PR campaign (although on GMTV she said that her career was not her priority at all - funny that.)

If Jade Goody had bullied (Cleo) she wouldn't be in this position. That is FACT!!!

No it isn't fact. You yourself said on another thread that we are all capable of speculation. You should not get facts mixed up with speculation. It didn't happen, so we will never know what position Jade would have been in.

The fact that Jade said that, "Rick Waller" smelt was not just her opinion. It is just that, other housemates are more tactful and Jade Goody says it how it is. Also, it stirs things up a bit. Maybe she is playing to the cameras?

And that's a good thing? It's good to be tactless?

Jade Goody did do Liposuction and also, she did fitness stuff too.

Yes, but she conveniently forgot to mention the lipo.

Rick Waller has a lot more weight to lose and needs a more sympathetic trainer to help him.

What's the relevance of that to this thread?

Jade Goody's fitness video has sold well and helped many people.

I don't know how well it's sold. How do you know that it has helped many people? I would appreciate an answer based on fact, not speculation.

Jade Goody is not interested in hind-sight.

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record - how do you know what she is interested in?

What Jade Goody is interested in, is, (right now and the future)

See above

If she thinks that for one second, that her children could be in danger. Jade Goody will sort things and she is doing that right now!

Can you tell us what she is doing to sort it out while she is on her PR campaign trail in India? And how do you know what she is doing?

Endemol cannot lie about anything. They are answerable to the laws of this country.

Endemol can lie about whatever they want! (Not that I'm condoning that.)

There has been judgements made from the recorded footage from the show

and Endemol have come out of this, legally squeaky clean.

Surprise, surprise.

OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!

If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

Whether they are actually true?

That is another story.

I'm sorry for the persistence, but you refused to answer the question, and in fact, you have still not answered it. Do you know Jade personally or not?

However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.

Without meaning to sound rude - you can't stop people having and stating the opinion that she is racist.

Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.

Well, I won't hold my breath waiting for your 'proof'.

Nowhere

06-03-2007, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Your "Media *****" comment, is just your opinion of a very successful person, who has come from nowhere and made it big.

Perhaps, "Chantelle" could be described as the same? I wouldn't agree with that! and nor would Jade.

And your comments are just your opinion of Jade as well. She is successful because she has a canny agent, and for some reason, people seem obsessed with making celebrities out of people who have zilch talent.

I wouldn't class Chantelle the same as Jade. I'm not a fan of Chantelle, but she seems a basically nice person.

You talk about Big Brother and Endemol. All I know, is, that they wanted her and had cash to give. The rest of your remarks are invisible to me?

How convenient, that everything you don't agree with is invisible to you. What a lovely world that must create for you. Endemol and John Noel Management are tightly linked. Davina, Dermot and Russell all share the same management as Jade - John Noel Management. Jade generates money for BB - that is why she was put back in the house. The majority of viewers were against the idea, but hey, who cares what they want?

Jade's career has had a nasty knock. Worse than anyone could imagine. I am here to support her and fight her corner, but she has her priorities with her children. The career part, is not so important now.

Jade's 'career'. Pffft. I'm sick of all these celebrities - Jade is the worst offender - who manage to become celebrities despite having not one atom of talent or intelligence. If her career bombs (which sadly it won't), it will be no loss to the world of celebrity.

She has enough to retire!

So why doesn't she do that?

I don't expect people to follow my lead. You, want people to follow your lead. I just tell it like it is, like the lovely Jade Goody would. No lies told from me. Just facts and information.

No - not facts and information. Just opinions, which you are perfectly entitled to. But it's very easy to call your opinions facts, and to dismiss other people's opinions as rubbish.

You say that, you reap what you sow?

If Jade Goody had argued and taunted, (Cleo), you think that she would have been placed in this position?

Who knows? We can all speculate can't we?

Shilpa Shetty is an Indian, bollywood film star and many people were offended, worldwide.

It is ONLY about that, which has placed Jade Goody and the girls in this position.

Yes, that's kind of the point.

You say, "None so vile and frequent". Jade Goody must be a housemate that nobody would want to know, then?

How come, many housemates talk to her and also stay friends, even after the show?

Who exactly are we talking about here?

Jade Goody is very sociable. But, along the way, she will meet some people who just don't click with her. Like, "Rick Waller", (for example).

She said that he smelt! "He did smell, Jade was telling the truth"

Were you there? Do you know for a fact that he smelt? Do you not think that it was a cruel thing to say in any event?

And do you know Jade personally or something? You seem to know an awful lot about her.

She said that he could do better with losing his weight, that he didn't try much". This is true. Look at Jade Goody and what she has done to lose weight.

No doubt losing weight would be good for Rik.

What has Jade Goody done to lose weight? What about the secret liposuction she had?

Rick should buy her video and see if he can prove Jade Goody wrong?

You mean the video that she conned people with? On which she conveniently forgot to mention that she had had liposuction?

Jade Goody did admit that she was rather bullyish towards Shilpa and was going to make ammends.

Yet here you are saying that it was just a disagreement? Jade was not 'rather bullyish' - she was completely vile.

She was in tears, due to her worrying about her childrens safety and also, herself and her mother too. She also wants a life, without all of this nastiness. I don't blame her!

I truly hope her children are safe. As for worrying about her children's and mother's safety - clearly she didn't think about that in the house did she? Or maybe she was arrogant enough to assume that the British public would be automatically on her side?

Jade Goody is in demand, much more, when her acted bad behavior is present. It makes everyone money and Jade Goody will make the person who she has had a slight disagreement with, much better, with a hug usually and some sympathetic words from a nice girl, who does not bear grudges.

Where did you get your crystal ball?

You will get worked up, as there are very few, if any people who shall come on here and support Jade Goody in such a passionate manner. Using facts and picking holes in your theories, of what Jade Goody has apparently done wrong?

I don't HATE Jade - hate is too strong a word. However, your theories have got holes all over them. And what facts have you used? They're just opinions.

There is still right's on Jade Goody's camp. The right to NOT be called a racist person, when their is NO evidence to support this matter.

And the right of Shilpa Shetty not to be called a "f---ing loser" and "a w---er."

Endemol will catagorically say, that they will never let racism happen on the Big Brother show.

Well of course they will!! It would be naive to assume that they would say anything else. Just because they say it doesn't make it so.

There may have been some words, or sentances, which some may have construed has being so, but they certainly weren't.

None of them hate Indian or Asian people. They have friends who are of that particular race or even mixed race. It is just the media, getting out of hand and Jade Goody, who has been much loved by many people, mostly in Englands green and pleasant land, is now, trapped, right in the middle of this mess.

And again, I have to ask - do you know Jade personally? Otherwise, you have no basis for your 'facts'.

A truck load of valid points there Ruth, five star post :thumbs:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

You will get worked up, as there are very few, if any people who shall come on here and support Jade Goody in such a passionate manner. Using facts and picking holes in your theories, of what Jade Goody has apparently done wrong?

You should be concerning yourself with repairing the holes in your theories.

Originally posted by nodisharmony

JADE GOODY IS HONEST! SHE HATES LIARS.

BIG Brother star Jade Goody BOUGHT her sleek new figure by sneaking to a cosmetic surgery clinic, it was revealed last night.
The gobby cheat, who released a best-selling fitness DVD on Boxing Day, had liposuction to shed pounds of fat and cellulite.

Mrluvaluva

06-03-2007, 08:27 AM

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

I take that as an admission.

tinkerbell

06-03-2007, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

I take that as an admission.

Finally admited that he is working for her! So what other forums did she as her team to go on and MAKE people love her?

Mrluvaluva

06-03-2007, 12:28 PM

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

I take that as an admission.

Actually, I take that back. I think you are playing games on here with people, and enjoying all the attention you are getting. I think you would like to know Jade, and probably have a fixation on her. You are trying to make it look like you know her, but I doubt that the above statement is true.

And Red/James, I am not being insulting, or straying from the post. I am simply commenting on a post made by this member. Other members are starting to get annoyed with this, including myself. Would you prefer it if I opened another thread to discuss this?

GiRTh

06-03-2007, 12:34 PM

I agree with BAZ. Nodisharmony has got our attention and I fear that's all he's after.

Listen nodisharmony. YOU DON'T KNOW JADE. Keep posting fruitloop and we'll simply ignore you..

Mrluvaluva

06-03-2007, 12:40 PM

[i]Originally posted by GRiT Keep posting fruitloop and we'll simply ignore you..

I'm with you on that one. No matter how hard it will be. lol

GiRTh

06-03-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by GRiT Keep posting fruitloop and we'll simply ignore you..

I'm with you on that one. No matter how hard it will be. lol

Don't use text speech that's against forum rules. LMFAO

mansi

06-03-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by GRiT Keep posting fruitloop and we'll simply ignore you..

I'm with you on that one. No matter how hard it will be. lol

Don't use text speech that's against forum rules. LMFAO

lol

GiRTh

06-03-2007, 01:45 PM

Watch it BAZ. Admin are going to be on your ass. It's a criminal offense to pose as a Moderator

mansi

06-03-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by mansi
lol

Warning!

what did I do? did I say something wrong?

GiRTh

06-03-2007, 01:47 PM

See above^

Mrluvaluva

06-03-2007, 02:08 PM

[i]Originally posted by mansi

what did I do? did I say something wrong?

I was joking. Sorry, didn't think! I've deleted it. Sorry!

rayofsunshine

06-03-2007, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
because she's an ignorant foul-mouthed moron.

:joker: That about sums it up. :bigsmile:

nodisharmony

06-03-2007, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
You judge Chantelle on what exactly??

I didn't say I judged her. However, my opinion of Chantelle is based on her in the house last year, and in interviews since. She seems a nice enough girl.

____________________________________________

You say that the majority of people didn't want Jade there?

Where are your facts?

Where are your facts to support that most people did want her there? There was annoyance when she went in - far more people were against it on here, and other forums than were for it.

You are also saying that their is corruption! and you bring the lovely Davina McCall into the equasion too.

I'm saying that they allowed racism to get viewing figures, and only stepped in when they realised the extent of the outcry about it. I'm not blaming Davina personally - she is Endemol's puppet.

Jade Goody is a reality show girl and she is up for quiz shows, talent shows, singing shows, interviews, mags, newspapers and most of all reality shows.

I've seen Jade on a couple of quiz shows - she didn't know anyof the answers, she doesn't have any discernible talent, can't sing to the best of my knowledge. The interviews, mags, newspapers and reality shows all come under the same banner. But that is all irrelevant to the point we are discussing.

She is into perfume, a beauty salon & fitness.

Or her manager is?

Richard Branson could retire? Julia Roberts could retire? Bill Gates could retire?

I won't go on listing the next 5 million names!!!

And they day that they cause a disgrace and an international incident, I hope that they do!

Jade Goody does not want to retire, okay!!

Well yes, that much is obvious by her desperate PR campaign (although on GMTV she said that her career was not her priority at all - funny that.)

If Jade Goody had bullied (Cleo) she wouldn't be in this position. That is FACT!!!

No it isn't fact. You yourself said on another thread that we are all capable of speculation. You should not get facts mixed up with speculation. It didn't happen, so we will never know what position Jade would have been in.

The fact that Jade said that, "Rick Waller" smelt was not just her opinion. It is just that, other housemates are more tactful and Jade Goody says it how it is. Also, it stirs things up a bit. Maybe she is playing to the cameras?

And that's a good thing? It's good to be tactless?

Jade Goody did do Liposuction and also, she did fitness stuff too.

Yes, but she conveniently forgot to mention the lipo.

Rick Waller has a lot more weight to lose and needs a more sympathetic trainer to help him.

What's the relevance of that to this thread?

Jade Goody's fitness video has sold well and helped many people.

I don't know how well it's sold. How do you know that it has helped many people? I would appreciate an answer based on fact, not speculation.

Jade Goody is not interested in hind-sight.

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record - how do you know what she is interested in?

What Jade Goody is interested in, is, (right now and the future)

See above

If she thinks that for one second, that her children could be in danger. Jade Goody will sort things and she is doing that right now!

Can you tell us what she is doing to sort it out while she is on her PR campaign trail in India? And how do you know what she is doing?

Endemol cannot lie about anything. They are answerable to the laws of this country.

Endemol can lie about whatever they want! (Not that I'm condoning that.)

There has been judgements made from the recorded footage from the show

and Endemol have come out of this, legally squeaky clean.

Surprise, surprise.

OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!

If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

Whether they are actually true?

That is another story.

I'm sorry for the persistence, but you refused to answer the question, and in fact, you have still not answered it. Do you know Jade personally or not?

However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.

Without meaning to sound rude - you can't stop people having and stating the opinion that she is racist.

Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.

Well, I won't hold my breath waiting for your 'proof'.

From watching Chantelle, from the edited footage on Big Brother, she did seem nice!

From watching Jade Goody, she seemed the opposite.

Lucky that all of us aren't blinded by edited footage on reality shows! Isn't it!!!

______________________________________________

The facts about Jade Goody appearing on Celebrity Big Brother in January, along with her family, is, she is the kind of Reality Show girl that the viewing public want to see.

She brings in ratings and ratings are made by people watching the programme.

The reason that rating figures increase, when a person like Jade Goody appears on there, is, that she is in demand and people want her to be there.

It is very obvious really!! That is as obvious as Facts!

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"Davina & Endemol & puppet" don't all go together.

Davina McCall is no ones puppet.

She does a job and does it well, Honesty, too.

She would NOT be doing the show for Big Brother 8 if their was going to be corruption.

You keep saying the RACISM word. I keep saying, there was NO racism, Just words which may have been construed as having racial overtones!

There is a significant difference legally! Hence, NO PROSECUTIONS!!

______________________________________________

Jade Goody is very talented!! She has made plenty of money too.

But, it is true, it has nothing to do with her situation today.

and she is fighting tooth and nail to clear her name and feel safe too.

______________________________________________

Jade Goody does have management and advisors.

Perfume and fitness & beauty is a lucrative industry and everybody makes money.

and the consumer is happy too.

______________________________________________

If any wealthy and successful celebrity has been wronged on a reality show or anything else.

They will always try to clear their name

Jade Goody is one of those people and that is what she is doing.

_______________________________________________

Jade Goody DOES NOT want to retire.

However, if she manages to clear her name

The first priority is safety and if she accomplishes that, which I am sure she will.

Then, if she finds that nobody wants her? which I also doubt!

Jade Goody would start another project, which will keep her busy and also, get her name in the papers and mags.

JUST TRY TO GET HER OUT OF THE MEDIA!!

Jade Goody is a tough cookie and will stand up to this and also, a liar in a reality show.

______________________________________________

I don't speculate on that (Cleo) comment.

If Jade Goody had argued and made comments to (Cleo) Jade WOULD NOT be in this position!

FACTS!!!

Just like, "Dirk Benedict".

If you watched the show, you will know why I mention his name and my FACTS above.

______________________________________________

If Jade Goody was playing to the cameras in the Rick Waller disagreement?

It makes good viewing to some.

Also, whether it is right or not, is for many people to debate.

______________________________________________

If Jade Goody forgot to mention about the Liposuction?

Then she made a mistake.

She's not infallable, you know?

She can do silly things, like the rest of us.

______________________________________________

Fitness videos do help many people!

I don't have to please you with my answers to your questions.

______________________________________________

Jade is not interested in hind-sight.

Because, what has happened as happened. Her job is to repair the damage, which was not serious.

But, the Jade Hate that exists today, Jade needs to address.

Hind-sight is the past and if you go on Youtube.com

We can all see it.

______________________________________________

Going to India is all part of helping her children.

She has gone to the country where many were offended

she has been very generous and given a lot of money to a very worthy charity.

There will be a few which will now think that Jade Goody is much better than what they witnessed on that show.

Jade Goody's two boys were well looked after while she was there and Jade would have phoned every day too.

______________________________________________

Endemol cannot lie about transmitted footage.

Regarding the un-cut unedited footage.

I won't comment!!

______________________________________________

People have got their oppinions of Jade Goody.

They are entitled to that.

Drumming up hatred towards her, is (bullying on a massive scale) in "it's self."

JADE IS NOT A RACIST PERSON!!

There is NO proof and NO evidence!

(You are aware of the possible penalties for actual racism?)

ARE YOU?

______________________________________________

nodisharmony

06-03-2007, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by tinkerbell
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

I take that as an admission.

Finally admited that he is working for her! So what other forums did she as her team to go on and MAKE people love her?

The quote was edited from my full comment which is shown on this thread.

But just incase you can't find it or something?

Here it is again:-

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OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!

If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

Whether they are actually true?

That is another story.

However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.

Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.
_______________________________________________

Red Moon

06-03-2007, 06:38 PM

General Points from reading this thread

1. Avoid using words in all capitial letters as this oftern offends other posters.

2. Avoid making posts which include comments about other members, keep your opinions of other members to yourself.

3. Avoid belittling other members and name calling.

4. Avoid posts which as designed to offend other members or are designed to start a flame war between members.

5. Discuss only the issues and keep the subject on topic

Thanks for your help

Red

Lauren

06-03-2007, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Lucky that all of us aren't blinded by edited footage on reality shows! Isn't it!!!

Many people watched BB 24/7 and came to the conclusions that Jade isn't nice. You can't explain away that in terms of editing.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
The reason that rating figures increase, when a person like Jade Goody appears on there, is, that she is in demand and people want her to be there.

People I know only watched CBB because of the controversy, not cos of Jade. Many of her other shows have been largely unpopular in contrast.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is very obvious really!! That is as obvious as Facts!

It's clearly not a fact.... Facts are statements that there is not a chance them not to be true. Jade was voted off BB, she is hated by millions - your statements are not facts, no matter how many times you say they are.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
She does a job and does it well, Honesty, too.

Didn't she say she disliked Jade's actions? BUT WAIT, you said Jade acted only nice in the CBB house? Hypocritical, much?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
There is a significant difference legally! Hence, NO PROSECUTIONS!!

There was no prosecutions in the Stephen Lawrence case for many years too, and that was clearly a racial hate attack. Just cos there's no prosecutions means nothing.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Perfume and fitness & beauty is a lucrative industry and everybody makes money.

and the consumer is happy too.

They can't be THAT happy if they're boycotting her products now, can they?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody is one of those people and that is what she is doing.

Most celebrity/wealthy people don't make racist undertones in front of the general public.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody DOES NOT want to retire.

You know this how?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody would start another project, which will keep her busy and also, get her name in the papers and mags.

Again, you know this how?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
If Jade Goody had argued and made comments to (Cleo) Jade WOULD NOT be in this position!

FACTS!!!

You can't make an "if" presumption then claim it's a fact... it's not the done thing! :bored:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade is not interested in hind-sight.

Do you know her personally? Has she said this outright?

FACTS!
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Mrluvaluva

06-03-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by tinkerbell
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

I take that as an admission.

Finally admited that he is working for her! So what other forums did she as her team to go on and MAKE people love her?

The quote was edited from my full comment which is shown on this thread.

But just incase you can't find it or something?

Here it is again:-

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OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!

If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

Whether they are actually true?

That is another story.

However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.

Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.
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And??

You said it and it isn't true. Fact.

Also with regards to, and I quote "Jade Goody is a tough cookie and will stand up to this and also, a liar in a reality show." Who are you referring to?

nodisharmony

06-03-2007, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Lucky that all of us aren't blinded by edited footage on reality shows! Isn't it!!!

Many people watched BB 24/7 and came to the conclusions that Jade isn't nice. You can't explain away that in terms of editing.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
The reason that rating figures increase, when a person like Jade Goody appears on there, is, that she is in demand and people want her to be there.

People I know only watched CBB because of the controversy, not cos of Jade. Many of her other shows have been largely unpopular in contrast.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is very obvious really!! That is as obvious as Facts!

It's clearly not a fact.... Facts are statements that there is not a chance them not to be true. Jade was voted off BB, she is hated by millions - your statements are not facts, no matter how many times you say they are.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
She does a job and does it well, Honesty, too.

Didn't she say she disliked Jade's actions? BUT WAIT, you said Jade acted only nice in the CBB house? Hypocritical, much?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
There is a significant difference legally! Hence, NO PROSECUTIONS!!

There was no prosecutions in the Stephen Lawrence case for many years too, and that was clearly a racial hate attack. Just cos there's no prosecutions means nothing.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Perfume and fitness & beauty is a lucrative industry and everybody makes money.

and the consumer is happy too.

They can't be THAT happy if they're boycotting her products now, can they?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody is one of those people and that is what she is doing.

Most celebrity/wealthy people don't make racist undertones in front of the general public.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody DOES NOT want to retire.

You know this how?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody would start another project, which will keep her busy and also, get her name in the papers and mags.

Again, you know this how?

Originally posted by nodisharmony
If Jade Goody had argued and made comments to (Cleo) Jade WOULD NOT be in this position!

FACTS!!!

You can't make an "if" presumption then claim it's a fact... it's not the done thing! :bored:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade is not interested in hind-sight.

Do you know her personally? Has she said this outright?

FACTS!
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Many people who join forums will say that they know a celebrity.

Some will be telling the truth, however, many just make this up.

I will not say whether I know Jade Goody or not.

If I did and started saying "this-and-that" as facts. Many may not believe me. I am NOT saying anything.

All my posts are factual and many are based on words that have been said and televised or documented in the media.

When it is from Jade Goody's own mouth. You may not believe her or perhaps you do? Once again, It is debatable!!

If it is in a newspaper article or a magazine. Once again, it could be real or NOT?

I do state many obvious things.

When I said that, if (Cleo) had been treated the same as Shilpa, things wouldn't have been the same. You have the right to say that is NOT facts and you can't prove this?

I say that it is common sense to say this comment!

This whole situation in January was inflamed by the certain words and sentances which were said, that appeared to some people has having Racial Overtones.

So, on that note! I beg to be excused!!

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Now On To Your Questions!!
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The show was edited. 24 hours into 1 hour.

What was edited out, we don't know?

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You say that, people you know never watched Big Brother because of Jade Goody.

I don't doubt you!! You are probably right?

But many people do watch the show and do like Jade Goody being on there.

I like Jade Goody and was glad to see her on there!

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I accept your comment regarding facts. I was using past similar experiences on these types of shows and common sense too.

But, rightly, Facts are Facts. Point taken!

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Jade's behavior on Big Brother is there for the plain eye to see.

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The Stephen Lawrence enquiry went on a long time.

His family wanted justice and they got it.

The police welcome any complaint or complaints and shall act accordingly.

I only state what has took place between then and today.

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I was talking about December 2006 and before, regarding the Perfume sales.

On ebay, it is selling.

Buy yourself some.

A great mothers day present!

What would she say if you bought her a bottle of SHH!!

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Jade Goody is very sorry about what she said to Shilpa

Need I say more?

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Jade Goody is still quite young.

Also, it is very obvious that she is enjoying what she is doing.

Naturally she would like to continue this.

But Jade Goody is a realist too, which is evident from fans of hers, who do watch Jade Goody a lot.

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Jade Goody is NOT the type of girl to give up! Like I said earlier, if I know her? You don't have to believe me.

This is NOT a serious answer either.

Jade Goody is young and would love to continue being what she was, prior to Jan 2007

If any interviewer who meets Jade, asks her this question,

Then you will get the answer you want to hear?

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Somebody on this Forum is saying that she/he knows Jo O'Meara.

I just go with the flow and accept that as true.

I am not here to pick holes in other members.

I am here to help Jade Goody's situation and say that it is very wrong to judge Jade Goody from January's Celebrity Big Brother.

She has been very popular, up to that point an those are Facts!!