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TomC
25-07-2016, 04:35 PM
I don't wanna sound hostile, but I am slightly disappointed at the view of this by the TIBB regulars/off-season people.

Like, what has Jason actually done wrong? He tried to deal with Charlie as well as he could, and people make baseless claims that he's 'fake'? :conf:

Whereas Charlie, who put Jason in such an awkward position, was emotionally abusive, came in and game him a barrage of abuse including the c-word is praised...

I just don't quite understand how some people can let their favourites get away with certain behaviour.

y.winter
25-07-2016, 04:40 PM
Do people actually take Charlie's side?
It's ridiculous.
She gave him hell and he rightfully stopped with the PCness and nominated her. There was no reason to keep pretending.
She knows she has been a nightmare for him, yet she can't take the blame, so she jumped on the "Annihilation Gameplayer" train to escape it.
She's a bitter bitter woman, and the fact that she thought yesterday that SHE'S the one who leaves him, made it very clear how deluded she is.

hot2go
25-07-2016, 04:43 PM
Having gone the full season now and looking back I can't see how Jason could have done anything different in handling that situation than what he did,...any doubt people may have had about his claims to be just trying to contain the fury and vitreol Charlie is capable of were proven last night....THAT is exactly what he meant and he used himself as the buffer that kept THAT from the other housemates.....she displayed some seriously ugly behaviour last night and I think I'm amongst the majority who are glad Jason kept her in check to prevent it coming out when she was in the house.

Oaker
25-07-2016, 04:45 PM
Jason is the 'emotionally abusive' one imo

Northern Monkey
25-07-2016, 04:46 PM
You see when you actually take a step back and look at it you realise that these are not people's real views on the situation.They are just supporting their favs with unbridled passion.
If this was not BB and people were looking at the situation objectively and using common sense in their judgement then anyone can see that he has actually done nothing wrong in the house and she is very obsessive hence her little outburst on last nights ep.Those are not the actions of an emotionally stable woman.Her jealousy of his dog is a massive red light and her constant hankering for his attention even by winding him up just to get a reaction.
Being a BB fan is a team sport at the end of the day and everyone wants their team to win.It's not really to be taken seriously,It's only a gameshow.

armand.kay
25-07-2016, 04:52 PM
Charlie might be a bit messy and low key crazy but she was honest with her feeling and didn't try to put up a front. While Jason has proven himself to be a conning game player who wasn't above playing with her feeling to get far. Even Jason had admitted that had he not been in the house he would of acted differently.

Drew.
25-07-2016, 04:54 PM
You see when you actually take a step back and look at it you realise that these are not people's real views on the situation.They are just supporting their favs with unbridled passion.
If this was not BB and people were looking at the situation objectively and using common sense in their judgement then anyone can see that he has actually done nothing wrong in the house and she is very obsessive hence her little outburst on last nights ep.Those are not the actions of an emotionally stable woman.Her jealousy of his dog is a massive red light and her constant hankering for his attention even by winding him up just to get a reaction.
Being a BB fan is a team sport at the end of the day and everyone wants their team to win.It's not really to be taken seriously,It's only a gameshow.

I agree with this

Fair enough, people may have a reason to find his sulking draining and are upset he evicted Lateysha but none of this is abuse worthy. I've never seen so much unwarranted hate and abuse towards a housemate before. It's almost become a trend for some people to follow in the footsteps of their friends and to repeat what they are saying without actually thinking about the situation themselves

omgwtf
25-07-2016, 04:55 PM
Jason not done anything wrong that we know of.

Charlie even admitted in the other house that she had been a bad girlfriend and treated him like ****, and then when she decides she wants him back and he doesn't immediately fall at her feet, all hell breaks loose. That's the situation I've seen.

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 04:56 PM
I don't wanna sound hostile, but I am slightly disappointed at the view of this by the TIBB regulars/off-season people.

Like, what has Jason actually done wrong? He tried to deal with Charlie as well as he could, and people make baseless claims that he's 'fake'? :conf:

Whereas Charlie, who put Jason in such an awkward position, was emotionally abusive, came in and game him a barrage of abuse including the c-word is praised...

I just don't quite understand how some people can let their favourites get away with certain behaviour.

Tom ,people who don't like Jason will favour whoever they see giving him ****e,I don't even think some of them even like her just pretend to because its negativity towards Jason, I mean seriously who in their right mind would think it was entertaining watching that tirade last night? I also fail to see what he has done that is so wrong.

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 04:58 PM
I agree with this

Fair enough, people may have a reason to find his sulking draining and are upset he evicted Lateysha but none of this is abuse worthy. I've never seen so much unwarranted hate and abuse towards a housemate before. It's almost become a trend for some people to follow in the footsteps of their friends and to repeat what they are saying without actually thinking about the situation themselves

Exactly,this is where the word 'sheep' is apt

smudgie
25-07-2016, 05:00 PM
For all we know we have been played.
Far too much smiling going on between them to start with.
Hasn't Charlie already sold a story, then Jason can sell his side, then they can both sell one tgether on how they kissed and made up.
Kerching.:joker:

armand.kay
25-07-2016, 05:00 PM
Lol so because people don't like Jason they're "sheep"

reece(:
25-07-2016, 05:00 PM
What's wrong the c word?

Raph
25-07-2016, 05:00 PM
For me, my main issue is that Charlie has applied to the show for years, whereas Jason was just recruited based on Charlie getting cast and thus has ZERO merit from being on the show, other than trying to leech off of Charlie's success. The fact that he had the audacity to treat Charlie the way he did when she is the SOLE reason that he got cast makes me angry. Further, the fact that he has taken the opportunity away from not just Charlie, but also Lateysha and Ryan both of whom really appreciated the opportunity they were given angers me even more. He's just a complete LOSER who NEVER smiles and is just entirely whoring himself off of Charlie's success. I feel for her lots. Her dream was ruined by this loser getting cast and being a complete and UTTER prick to her.

armand.kay
25-07-2016, 05:01 PM
Why can't his fans actually defend him without attacking those appose him? If he was so righteous it would be easy.

omgwtf
25-07-2016, 05:02 PM
For me, my main issue is that Charlie has applied to the show for years, whereas Jason was just recruited based on Charlie getting cast and thus has ZERO merit from being on the show, other than trying to leech off of Charlie's success. The fact that he had the audacity to treat Charlie the way he did when she is the SOLE reason that he got cast makes me angry. Further, the fact that he has taken the opportunity away from not just Charlie, but also Lateysha and Ryan both of whom really appreciated the opportunity they were given angers me even more. He's just a complete LOSER who NEVER smiles and is just entirely whoring himself off of Charlie's success. I feel for her lots. Her dream was ruined by this loser getting cast and being a complete and UTTER prick to her.

"Charlie's success"... :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2016, 05:04 PM
Charlie has been abusive, a bully, a snide and a vile old hag to Jason and he has acted at all times with dignity


He dodged a bullet when he binned that mentalist

Drew.
25-07-2016, 05:05 PM
For me, my main issue is that Charlie has applied to the show for years, whereas Jason was just recruited based on Charlie getting cast and thus has ZERO merit from being on the show, other than trying to leech off of Charlie's success. The fact that he had the audacity to treat Charlie the way he did when she is the SOLE reason that he got cast makes me angry. Further, the fact that he has taken the opportunity away from not just Charlie, but also Lateysha and Ryan both of whom really appreciated the opportunity they were given angers me even more. He's just a complete LOSER who NEVER smiles and is just entirely whoring himself off of Charlie's success. I feel for her lots. Her dream was ruined by this loser getting cast and being a complete and UTTER prick to her.

Whats Charlies success meant to be and whats an example of him leeching off it? Lateysha and Ryan were recruited as well weren't they, why is he being isolated in this as a recruit and the one in the wrong for evicting them?

hot2go
25-07-2016, 05:06 PM
Jason not done anything wrong that we know of.

Charlie even admitted in the other house that she had been a bad girlfriend and treated him like ****, and then when she decides she wants him back and he doesn't immediately fall at her feet, all hell breaks loose. That's the situation I've seen.

Yeh, that's pretty much it....if one your mates was in Jasons position you'd tell em to run a mile...and if one of your mates was in Charlie's position you'd tell them to give up.

Lostie!
25-07-2016, 05:07 PM
For me, my main issue is that Charlie has applied to the show for years, whereas Jason was just recruited based on Charlie getting cast and thus has ZERO merit from being on the show, other than trying to leech off of Charlie's success. The fact that he had the audacity to treat Charlie the way he did when she is the SOLE reason that he got cast makes me angry. Further, the fact that he has taken the opportunity away from not just Charlie, but also Lateysha and Ryan both of whom really appreciated the opportunity they were given angers me even more. He's just a complete LOSER who NEVER smiles and is just entirely whoring himself off of Charlie's success. I feel for her lots. Her dream was ruined by this loser getting cast and being a complete and UTTER prick to her.

But this is what I don't get, how exactly did he treat her? She continuously made things awkward between them and then Jason's the worst guy on the planet for reaching his limit?

Babayaro.
25-07-2016, 05:07 PM
Nicely put, Tom :clap1:

I completely agree. Her behaviour last night was terrible.

Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2016, 05:09 PM
Nicely put, Tom :clap1:

I completely agree. Her behaviour last night was terrible.

It was, disgusting behavoir from her and pink hair girl

Pete.
25-07-2016, 05:10 PM
What's wrong the c word?
It's not like Jason hasn't used it before in the house

https://66.media.tumblr.com/c04b91481bed0fa5f1405e41fb8ac4af/tumblr_o987zl1nBr1ql2ui0o2_250.gif

MrWong
25-07-2016, 05:10 PM
To ,people who don't like Jason will favour whoever they see giving him ****e,I don't even think some of them even like her just pretend to because its negativity towards Jason, I mean seriously who in their right mind would think it was entertaining watching that tirade last night? I also fail to see what he has done that is so wrong.

That's not true :fist:

I dislike Jason but I still put most of the blame on Charlie. The only thing I took issue with is when Jason kept saying that the relationship couldn't work in the house, suggesting that it might outside of the house, which gave Charlie false hope.

Babayaro.
25-07-2016, 05:13 PM
I don't understand how Jason being recruited whilst Charlie was not has anything to do with this. It's completely irrelevant, she still treated him like ****. Anyway, I doubt most of them actually went through the actual audition process.

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:13 PM
Charlie was treated awfully by Jason. She made it clear what her feelings were for him and Jason just strung her along. Instead of saying "I'm not interested" he was like "not in here, maybe on the outside" and kept changing his mind throughout Charlie's time in the house. Then when Charlie gets out she finds out Jason had a new girlfriend and had lied to her. Charlie was right. He's a ****.

(Although she's now said sorry for using that word apologetic queen)

Tom4784
25-07-2016, 05:14 PM
It's all panto anyway.

Charlie fans are no better or worse than any other fans.

Liam-
25-07-2016, 05:15 PM
Charlie is the quintessential bunny boiler, he told her many, many times that he just wanted to be friends and she just wasn't happy enough with that, she wanted to push for more, even after he made it clear nothing was going to happen, she made him miserable for 5 weeks, taking offense to every single thing he said, by crying and making a tit of herself whenever he didn't fawn all over her, she's the only one who managed to ruin her experience and she ruined his in the process, now even after she's left she's been hell bent on trying to drag his name through the dirt even more than she already has, that tirade of abuse she gave him in that court task was a prime example of what she was like in that house but multiplied because she knew she could leave afterwards and not finally get the tongue lashing she deserved back, she's a psycho, always was and the fact that she thinks telling him he won't see her for dust afterwards was going to hurt him is laughable, poor love, must be hard to live in a world full of delusion.

LukeB
25-07-2016, 05:16 PM
Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:17 PM
Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

hmm tea

Drew.
25-07-2016, 05:19 PM
Charlie is the quintessential bunny boiler, he told her many, many times that he just wanted to be friends and she just wasn't happy enough with that, she wanted to push for more, even after he made it clear nothing was going to happen, she made him miserable for 5 weeks, taking offense to every single thing he said, by crying and making a tit of herself whenever he didn't fawn all over her, she's the only one who managed to ruin her experience and she ruined his in the process, now even after she's left she's been hall bent on trying to drag his name through the dirt even more than she already has, that tirade of abuse she gave him in that court task was a prime example of what she was like in that house but multiplied because she knew she could leave afterwards and not finally get the tongue lashing she deserved back, she's an psycho, always was and the fact that she thinks telling him he won't see her for dust afterwards was going to hurt him is laughable, poor love, must be hard to live in a world full of delusion.

:clap1:

LukeB
25-07-2016, 05:19 PM
hmm tea

I love Charlie but both gave it to each other not just one but a female always gets the blame. It wasn't all Charlie it was equal.

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 05:20 PM
Lol so because people don't like Jason they're "sheep"

I never said that ,read it properly, nothing to do with not liking him.

Babayaro.
25-07-2016, 05:20 PM
Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

lol you can't possibly throw out the 'sexism' card. People aren't blaming Charlie just because she's a woman, if you read through the thread they have gave very strong reasons as to why they believe she is at fault.

TomC
25-07-2016, 05:20 PM
Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

Please tell me you're not suggesting I'm treating Charlie differently because she's a woman?

Lostie!
25-07-2016, 05:21 PM
Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

That's extremely narrow-minded, Luke. I think Charlie came off worse and it has nothing to do with me just wanting to "blame the woman".

And from what I watched, Charlie made herself miserable.

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 05:21 PM
I love Charlie but both gave it to each other not just one but a female always gets the blame. It wasn't all Charlie it was equal.

It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong

Drew.
25-07-2016, 05:22 PM
I love Charlie but both gave it to each other not just one but a female always gets the blame. It wasn't all Charlie it was equal.

Low blow

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:22 PM
It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong

She wasn't pursuing anyone, he led her on

TomC
25-07-2016, 05:22 PM
Charlie was treated awfully by Jason. She made it clear what her feelings were for him and Jason just strung her along. Instead of saying "I'm not interested" he was like "not in here, maybe on the outside" and kept changing his mind throughout Charlie's time in the house. Then when Charlie gets out she finds out Jason had a new girlfriend and had lied to her. Charlie was right. He's a ****.

(Although she's now said sorry for using that word apologetic queen)

Apart from when he said 'we're not together' on the first night and continually told her they were 'friends'. Like I said, it's not an easy situation for Jason, and he probably found it hard to keep pushing her away in the face of persistence, hence 'we'll discuss it on the outside'.

Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2016, 05:22 PM
It's all panto anyway.

Charlie fans are no better or worse than any other fans.

The stats say they are 15% better than Layteesha fans and 18% better than Ryan fans

Andy and Jayne fans are the best with a whopping 78% approval rating

:clap1:

LukeB
25-07-2016, 05:23 PM
Please tell me you're not suggesting I'm treating Charlie differently because she's a woman?

nope

That's extremely narrow-minded, Luke. I think Charlie came off worse and it has nothing to do with me just wanting to "blame the woman".

I just think both were as bad as each other :shrug: both made accusations about each other, both made each other miserable. It was equal and it takes two not just one.

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:23 PM
Apart from when he said 'we're not together' on the first night and continually told her they were 'friends'. Like I said, it's not an easy situation for Jason, and he probably found it hard to keep pushing her away in the face of persistence, hence 'we'll discuss it on the outside'.

The fact that it wasn't an easy situation isn't an excuse for leading someone on and lying about his relationship status

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 05:23 PM
She wasn't pursuing anyone, he led her on

how did he lead her on :conf: he told her more than once they were not a couple

Liam-
25-07-2016, 05:24 PM
The whole premise of 'we'll talk about it outside' I think was his way of trying not to let her down on tv and make her look more of a tit than she'd already made herself look imo, a real gentlemanly thing to do.

kirklancaster
25-07-2016, 05:24 PM
You see when you actually take a step back and look at it you realise that these are not people's real views on the situation.They are just supporting their favs with unbridled passion.
If this was not BB and people were looking at the situation objectively and using common sense in their judgement then anyone can see that he has actually done nothing wrong in the house and she is very obsessive hence her little outburst on last nights ep.Those are not the actions of an emotionally stable woman.Her jealousy of his dog is a massive red light and her constant hankering for his attention even by winding him up just to get a reaction.
Being a BB fan is a team sport at the end of the day and everyone wants their team to win.It's not really to be taken seriously,It's only a gameshow.

WELL said, and perfectly true.

TomC
25-07-2016, 05:24 PM
The fact that it wasn't an easy situation isn't an excuse for leading someone on and lying about his relationship status

He didn't lead her on. Can't comment on the 'lie' as I don't know if it's true or not. Can it even be called a lie?

Lister of Smeg
25-07-2016, 05:25 PM
Big Jase needs to take restraining order out on the dog kicker poor little Cleo little heart won't be able to take anymore abuse from this angry bunny boiler especially with her getting up their in years.

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:25 PM
how did he lead her on :conf: he told her more than once they were not a couple

He flipped flopped all the time. One minute they were friends, next minute they would talk about it on the outside.

kirklancaster
25-07-2016, 05:25 PM
The stats say they are 15% better than Layteesha fans and 18% better than Ryan fans

Andy and Jayne fans are the best with a whopping 78% approval rating

:clap1:

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Drew.
25-07-2016, 05:25 PM
She wasn't pursuing anyone, he led her on

The time Jason gave Evelyn a shirt to wear when Charlie lost it is a good example of her obsessiveness over him. That wasn't normal behaviour at all, it was controlling if anything. He gave no signs at all of being interested leading up to that, the surprise from the other housemates to her reaction speaks volumes

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:25 PM
He didn't lead her on. Can't comment on the 'lie' as I don't know if it's true or not. Can it even be called a lie?

Well he didn't tell the truth, put it that way.

Lister of Smeg
25-07-2016, 05:26 PM
He flipped flopped all the time. One minute they were friends, next minute they would talk about it on the outside.

Hemail made it very clear to her :nono:

Macie Lightfoot
25-07-2016, 05:26 PM
For me, my main issue is that Charlie has applied to the show for years, whereas Jason was just recruited based on Charlie getting cast and thus has ZERO merit from being on the show, other than trying to leech off of Charlie's success. The fact that he had the audacity to treat Charlie the way he did when she is the SOLE reason that he got cast makes me angry. Further, the fact that he has taken the opportunity away from not just Charlie, but also Lateysha and Ryan both of whom really appreciated the opportunity they were given angers me even more. He's just a complete LOSER who NEVER smiles and is just entirely whoring himself off of Charlie's success. I feel for her lots. Her dream was ruined by this loser getting cast and being a complete and UTTER prick to her.

the sad thing is that I know for a fact that this isn't ironic or a self-parody or trolling, it's one hundred percent serious.

LukeB
25-07-2016, 05:26 PM
It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong

It was HIM as well. Jason wasn't a victim in this either was Charlie. Both gave it to each other. No one was a villain/victim in this situation, I felt sorry for them both to be put in this situation but I'm not going to blame Jason without blaming Charlie too.

kirklancaster
25-07-2016, 05:27 PM
I don't wanna sound hostile, but I am slightly disappointed at the view of this by the TIBB regulars/off-season people.

Like, what has Jason actually done wrong? He tried to deal with Charlie as well as he could, and people make baseless claims that he's 'fake'? :conf:

Whereas Charlie, who put Jason in such an awkward position, was emotionally abusive, came in and game him a barrage of abuse including the c-word is praised...

I just don't quite understand how some people can let their favourites get away with certain behaviour.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: EXACTLY RIGHT.

Liam-
25-07-2016, 05:27 PM
Well he didn't tell the truth, put it that way.

If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.

Pete.
25-07-2016, 05:28 PM
the sad thing is that I know for a fact that this isn't ironic or a self-parody or trolling, it's one hundred percent serious.
He's speaking the truth though :unsure:

LukeB
25-07-2016, 05:29 PM
He's speaking the truth though :unsure:

Duh it's Raph, he's(macie) always following his(Raphs) posts and trying to take the mick. :p

TomC
25-07-2016, 05:30 PM
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.

Agreed.

Greg!
25-07-2016, 05:31 PM
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.

Giving Evelyn the shirt upset Charlie because it's something Jason used to do to her when they were together. Obviously she'd be upset by it because it reminds her of the past. If Jason had been honest with her and made clear they have no future there's no doubt she'd be upset but at least it would give her closure. Hiding the truth from someone because it will make them upset is weak imo

Babayaro.
25-07-2016, 05:31 PM
Yeah so what if he has a girlfriend that he did not tell Charlie about. It's not like he was shagging Charlie at the time so what difference does it make. And like Liam said, it's probably best that he didn't say anything as it would have made the situation much worse.

Macie Lightfoot
25-07-2016, 05:33 PM
He's speaking the truth though :unsure:

I don't consider making it on to the seventeenth installment of a dying reality show as success but to each their own?

Liam-
25-07-2016, 05:33 PM
Giving Evelyn the shirt upset Charlie because it's something Jason used to do to her when they were together. Obviously she'd be upset by it because it reminds her of the past. If Jason had been honest with her and made clear they have no future there's no doubt she'd be upset but at least it would give her closure. Hiding the truth from someone because it will make them upset is weak imo

I'm pretty sure that Charlie got angry because, and I quote 'He's only doing that to piss me off' :joker:

Yes, of course being in love with someone who doesn't love you back anymore is tough and she's bound to be haunted by memories that they had, but to actively go out of your way to make out like everything he's doing, is being done to offend you or to upset you, is ludicrous.

Beso
25-07-2016, 05:34 PM
Jason only flipped and turned violent because she dumped him and he still wanted her.

Macie Lightfoot
25-07-2016, 05:37 PM
it also seems pretty neglectful to mention the fact that even if a lot of the stuff Charlie says about Jason is true, she is ****ing insane (and I say that lovingly) and Jason is pretty much correct about her too?

and I'm sure people are gonna yell and scream and disagree, but she SO moved that dog with her foot probably a little too forcefully for his liking

Daniel.
25-07-2016, 05:38 PM
He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

Lister of Smeg
25-07-2016, 05:38 PM
Giving Evelyn the shirt upset Charlie because it's something Jason used to do to her when they were together. Obviously she'd be upset by it because it reminds her of the past. If Jason had been honest with her and made clear they have no future there's no doubt she'd be upset but at least it would give her closure. Hiding the truth from someone because it will make them upset is weak imo

Charlie's response to that was pathetic she acted like Jason marched over ripped Evelyn clothes off and gave her a D'ing in front of her.

Northern Monkey
25-07-2016, 05:39 PM
Now suppose Jason had acted like/treated Charlie the way she did him.What would everyone be saying?
They would be saying he's an emotional abuser and how he should be arrested for it.Charlie is getting off very lightly in comparison to if that situation was reversed.

Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2016, 05:40 PM
He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

stay pressed sis

kirklancaster
25-07-2016, 05:40 PM
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Bang On Liam, AND it was NOTHING to do with her.

Liam-
25-07-2016, 05:40 PM
Now suppose Jason had acted like/treated Charlie the way she did him.What would everyone be saying?
They would be saying he's an emotional abuser and how he should be arrested for it.Charlie is getting off very lightly in comparison to if that situation was reversed.

Of course she is, she's a woman, most women get the angel treatment on here no matter what they do, especially if it's against a man.

kirklancaster
25-07-2016, 05:41 PM
Yeah so what if he has a girlfriend that he did not tell Charlie about. It's not like he was shagging Charlie at the time so what difference does it make. And like Liam said, it's probably best that he didn't say anything as it would have made the situation much worse.

Bang on right.

kirklancaster
25-07-2016, 05:43 PM
stay pressed sis

:joker::joker::joker: 'Groovy, Baby'. :hee:

LukeB
25-07-2016, 05:43 PM
Of course she is, she's a woman, most women get the angel treatment on here no matter what they do, especially if it's against a man.

some people calling females sluts,bad mother,fat etc on here is hardly angel treatment.

Babayaro.
25-07-2016, 05:44 PM
stay pressed sis

Omg :joker:

Cherie
25-07-2016, 05:45 PM
For all we know we have been played.
Far too much smiling going on between them to start with.
Hasn't Charlie already sold a story, then Jason can sell his side, then they can both sell one tgether on how they kissed and made up.
Kerching.:joker:

Exactly Smudgie :hehe:

Lister of Smeg
25-07-2016, 05:46 PM
some people calling females sluts,bad mother,fat etc on here is hardly angel treatment.

Why not believe it or not some women do embody of of those negative qualities :shrug:

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 05:46 PM
He flipped flopped all the time. One minute they were friends, next minute they would talk about it on the outside.

How did he flip flop he told her they were not a couple,but they could be friends ,how is that flip flopping he told her ,she would not listen.

Daniel.
25-07-2016, 05:51 PM
Omg :joker:

How is that funny?

Lister of Smeg
25-07-2016, 05:52 PM
How did he flip flop he told her they were not a couple,but they could be friends ,how is that flip flopping he told her ,she would not listen.

He didn't flip flop his haters will come up with any excuse to deride him :nono:

RavenleFey
25-07-2016, 05:54 PM
Having gone the full season now and looking back I can't see how Jason could have done anything different in handling that situation than what he did,...any doubt people may have had about his claims to be just trying to contain the fury and vitreol Charlie is capable of were proven last night....THAT is exactly what he meant and he used himself as the buffer that kept THAT from the other housemates.....she displayed some seriously ugly behaviour last night and I think I'm amongst the majority who are glad Jason kept her in check to prevent it coming out when she was in the house.

I totally agree with this, he was very much a buffer that tried to keep the lid on the boiling pot that was Charlie to save not only himself from the vitriol, admittedly, but also the other housemates, particularly the other women in there. They and some of the viewers seem to have forgotten this. It certainly can't have been easy and was probably mentally exhausting for him. He's had a pretty **** time in that house altogether 😕

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 06:07 PM
He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

No ,she said SHE treated HIM badly how hard is that to understand. She has a mouth like a sewer so I imagine **** is what she is used to

Babayaro.
25-07-2016, 06:08 PM
How is that funny?

Because it's LT saying it

Kazanne
25-07-2016, 06:09 PM
How is that funny?

It's hilarious :laugh::laugh:

omgwtf
25-07-2016, 06:34 PM
Charlie was treated awfully by Jason. She made it clear what her feelings were for him and Jason just strung her along. Instead of saying "I'm not interested" he was like "not in here, maybe on the outside" and kept changing his mind throughout Charlie's time in the house. Then when Charlie gets out she finds out Jason had a new girlfriend and had lied to her. Charlie was right. He's a ****.

(Although she's now said sorry for using that word apologetic queen)


Let's face it - if he'd told her outright he didn't want her he would have been accused of humiliating her on national TV.

omgwtf
25-07-2016, 06:35 PM
BTW you know how Charlie said in her eviction interview that he was saying things to string her along and get her hopes up...did Big Brother ever actually catch any of that? Surely that would have been worth showing on TV? Would they have just edited all that juicy stuff out?

Speedster
25-07-2016, 06:38 PM
I supported Charlie because I was sick to death of all the bullies calling her names and wishing her harm. As someone pointed out on another thread the people in the house are real and shouldn't be subjected to verbal abuse, threats to their safety, name calling s*** shaming or questions about their mental health. Just because they can't hear what's being said about them andso can't defend themselves doesn't give anyone the right to indulge abuse...and it's ********** illegal-it's called Defamation of character I believe.

It's totally wrong and completely unfair. If it was happening to someone they knew, they'd be going crazy, but strangers seem fair game.:fist::nono:

omgwtf
25-07-2016, 06:39 PM
Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.


As a woman myself I wouldn't place undue blame on another woman. However, just because I am a woman doesn't mean I have to automatically side with the woman instead of the man. From what I saw on TV, Jason didn't do anything wrong to Charlie. I didn't see him make her miserable at all.

He doesn't have to be with her if he doesn't want to, nor does he have to be with her just to make her happy/give her what she wants.

omgwtf
25-07-2016, 06:45 PM
I supported Charlie because I was sick to death of all the bullies calling her names and wishing her harm. As someone pointed out on another thread the people in the house are real and shouldn't be subjected to verbal abuse, threats to their safety, name calling s*** shaming or questions about their mental health. Just because they can't hear what's being said about them andso can't defend themselves doesn't give anyone the right to indulge abuse...and it's ********** illegal-it's called Defamation of character I believe.

It's totally wrong and completely unfair. If it was happening to someone they knew, they'd be going crazy, but strangers seem fair game.:fist::nono:

I agree with everything you've written. Just because I like Jason doesn't make I hate Charlie. Far from it. I was disappointed with what she said to him last night, and actually I think your post summarises everything that was wrong with how she treated him last night, and on a couple of other episodes too.

Braden
25-07-2016, 07:28 PM
I think the whole situation was set to be a disaster from the very beginning, and I don't think either of them are necessarily in the right or wrong. The experience itself can be difficult, but I imagine it's quite rewarding at the same time. However, I think it makes a difference when you go into the house with someone you have a history with. It's not a unique experience to say the least. It suddenly becomes an ongoing experience you have with that other person. It might be easy if you go through most of it choosing to ignore each other (Chelsea and Jane), or if your issue can be sorted out after one night (Ryan & Sam), but there was a lot of baggage in this 'story' with both Charlie and Jason.

They ruined each other's time in the house, and it was always going to happen. Charlie needed to make her intentions clearer to herself and realise what her true feelings towards Jason were/are, and Jason, well (if what I've heard is true) he need(ed)/s to stop seeing her as an objective woman he wanted to pursue sexual acts withif he was no longer interested. I quite liked both of them at the time they were in the house together, but I did prefer Charlie in the fact that I found her more entertaining. Her behaviour last night was a little uncomfortable to watch, but I don't think Jason should be made out to a complete hero either.

Littlegreen
25-07-2016, 07:41 PM
I wish they hadn't brought it into the show, it's their business what happened in the relationship previously and what we did see in the house was tedious beyond belief.

Cleo was the only good bit.

Vicky.
25-07-2016, 08:01 PM
You see when you actually take a step back and look at it you realise that these are not people's real views on the situation.They are just supporting their favs with unbridled passion.
If this was not BB and people were looking at the situation objectively and using common sense in their judgement then anyone can see that he has actually done nothing wrong in the house and she is very obsessive hence her little outburst on last nights ep.Those are not the actions of an emotionally stable woman.Her jealousy of his dog is a massive red light and her constant hankering for his attention even by winding him up just to get a reaction.
Being a BB fan is a team sport at the end of the day and everyone wants their team to win.It's not really to be taken seriously,It's only a gameshow.
Indeed.

Jordan.
25-07-2016, 08:58 PM
Well Charlie knows him better than anyone on here does and if she's he's game playing or not being himself I'll choose to believe her. Plus the fact it's been plain as day to see.

I'd rather support someone is a bit messy but true to themselves than a sly character.

Jordan.
25-07-2016, 09:01 PM
I agree with this

Fair enough, people may have a reason to find his sulking draining and are upset he evicted Lateysha but none of this is abuse worthy. I've never seen so much unwarranted hate and abuse towards a housemate before. It's almost become a trend for some people to follow in the footsteps of their friends and to repeat what they are saying without actually thinking about the situation themselves

Did you overlook all the fat shaming and slut shaming the female housemates have had thrown at them by the same people who take issue with anything negative said about Jason?

Speedster
25-07-2016, 09:05 PM
Did you overlook all the fat shaming and slut shaming the female housemates have had thrown at them by the same people who take issue with anything negative said about Jason?



:clap1::clap1:

TomC
25-07-2016, 09:16 PM
Well Charlie knows him better than anyone on here does and if she's he's game playing or not being himself I'll choose to believe her. Plus the fact it's been plain as day to see.

I'd rather support someone is a bit messy but true to themselves than a sly character.

I'd rather not support either. I don't think being 'true to yourself' works as an excuse for bad behaviour.

Drew.
25-07-2016, 11:33 PM
Did you overlook all the fat shaming and slut shaming the female housemates have had thrown at them by the same people who take issue with anything negative said about Jason?

I don't condemn or surround myself with the people who get involved in that, more fool them for stooping that low after complaining about other people doing the same thing so that conversation isn't something for me to get involved in.. my posts were about Jason and the treatment i've witnessed towards him

Vanessa
25-07-2016, 11:35 PM
Charlie is quite simply a scumbag. Nasty and bitter til the end. Jason will need a restraining order to keep that psycho away.

Raph
26-07-2016, 11:14 AM
#TeamCharlie, Jason is pure scum.