Jo " shove off Shilpa"

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[*Lorna*]

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Dear Jo

I knew you were talking rubbish in your tv interview. i suppose this was too taken out of context. people like you make this world a bad place. its your kind that effects race relations. i knew it. you chav.

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[Jay]

I wouldn't believe everything that comes through the daily star.

[S2]

This is the Daily Liar paper

[GiRTh]

What a peach.

[Psylocke]

jo should shave her head.........

[CharlotteSometimes]

Jo would be wise to avoid Shilpa at all costs. Anyone who spends a little time with her, but refuses to fall to their knees kissing her feet and to allow her to talk down to them simply because they're honest, decent - but working class - is accused of being a racist and a bully. But wait - that's already happened. No point in locking the gate after the horse has already bolted, huh?

[mansi]

Originally posted by Psylocke
jo should shave her head.........


lollll, why?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi
Originally posted by Psylocke
jo should shave her head.........


lollll, why?


I think it's a reference to Britney Spears.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Jo would be wise to avoid Shilpa at all costs. Anyone who spends a little time with her, but refuses to fall to their knees kissing her feet and to allow her to talk down to them simply because they're honest, decent - but working class - is accused of being a racist and a bully. But wait - that's already happened. No point in locking the gate after the horse has already bolted, huh?

I don't see that Shilpa - or any of the other housemates - looked down on Jade and Co because they are 'working class'. To be frank - I don't give a toss where someone comes from, geographically or financially, but I really wouldn't have enjoyed the company of Jade, Jo or Danielle if I had been in the house. If that makes me a snob, well so be it.

Honest and decent? I'd say Jade is honest, but certainly not decent. That much was clear from her behaviour in BB3! Danielle is neither honest nor decent. As for Jo - I'm not sure. I think she is a very fragile person who went along with who she perceived to be the strongest group in the house. Much like the way that some schoolchildren will hang around with the bullies just to avoid being bullied themselves.

[CharlotteSometimes]

They quite blatantly did, at every possible juncture.

She's clearly done a heck of a lot of growing up since then, whether victimised after the argument or not. I've skipped over Danielle whenever possible. Although I don't think she's a racist, I think she was the only hm who really did have a heck of a lot to apologise for once she left the house. Hardly anything to deserve death threats and the like, though. As for Jo, I found nothing to dislike about her at all. She was guilty of an absurd stereotype, for sure. Some people are told such stupid things and are daft enough to believe them, until someone sets them straight. Unfortunately, that didn't come until it was a little too late, after it had been said on camera and shown repeatedly. When she was laughing during Shilpa and Jade's argument, I'm not sure on the 'laughing because she was nervous' explanation. Danielle said something quite similar in her interview with Davina, too. I have known a girl like that in the past, but it's not something I've seen too often. It still wasn't anything worthy of deeming her a racist or a bully, though.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
They quite blatantly did, at every possible juncture.

She's clearly done a heck of a lot of growing up since then, whether victimised after the argument or not. I've skipped over Danielle whenever possible. Although I don't think she's a racist, I think she was the only hm who really did have a heck of a lot to apologise for once she left the house. Hardly anything to deserve death threats and the like, though. As for Jo, I found nothing to dislike about her at all. She was guilty of an absurd stereotype, for sure. Some people are told such stupid things and are daft enough to believe them, until someone sets them straight. Unfortunately, that didn't come until it was a little too late, after it had been said on camera and shown repeatedly. When she was laughing during Shilpa and Jade's argument, I'm not sure on the 'laughing because she was nervous' explanation. Danielle said something quite similar in her interview with Davina, too. I have known a girl like that in the past, but it's not something I've seen too often. It still wasn't anything worthy of deeming her a racist or a bully, though.

They might not have liked them, but how do you know it was because they are 'working class'?

Jade quite clearly has not grown up much since BB3. She's become more media savvy, sure, but is she any more mature? No.

[CharlotteSometimes]

I'm sure that wasn't the concept they viewed them in, since the term isn't really the same in America, for example. But they clearly looked down on them as lower in class than themselves. Everything they said or did was analysed and criticised. I use the term working class because that's what their backgrounds are, in the terms we use here.

I think she's a heck of a lot more mature. But yes, she got stung. I'm sure she agreed to go into the house again thinking that it would be a walk in the park, and she'd just bank the cheque after a few weeks and step straight onto the magazine circuit again for the next few weeks/months. I've never liked Carole Malone's newspaper column. She's a bitter old shrew who just slates people week in, week out, often for no apparent reason. But she'd always slated Jade too, until she came out of the house. Then she completely changed her opinion. If Jade was really as bad as she's painted, how did she manage to win her round? Clearly she saw enough to convince her that her previous impression had been wrong.

[Ruth]

I don't trust Carole Malone one bit. Just because she claim's to have changed her opinion on Jade doesn't mean that she really has done. Look at all the horrible things she said about WAGs before she went into the house, and yet she positively loved (or appeared to love) Danielle.

[CharlotteSometimes]

I don't see why she'd bother to put it in her column if she didn't think that way. There's certainly not going to be any gain in it for her, is there? I was very surprised that she didn't turn on the whole lot of them as soon as she got back to her computer, as it goes. She's not someone I'd put a great deal of faith in either, really. But I think most people have certain groups of people in mind that they'd never imagine themselves getting on with. Yet if they ever had the opportunity to meet them, I'm sure that they'd be able to find some common ground. I still don't think someone in her position would pass on such a golden opportunity unless she'd been positively persuaded otherwise, though.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
I'm sure that wasn't the concept they viewed them in, since the term isn't really the same in America, for example. But they clearly looked down on them as lower in class than themselves. Everything they said or did was analysed and criticised. I use the term working class because that's what their backgrounds are, in the terms we use here.

I think she's a heck of a lot more mature. But yes, she got stung. I'm sure she agreed to go into the house again thinking that it would be a walk in the park, and she'd just bank the cheque after a few weeks and step straight onto the magazine circuit again for the next few weeks/months. I've never liked Carole Malone's newspaper column. She's a bitter old shrew who just slates people week in, week out, often for no apparent reason. But she'd always slated Jade too, until she came out of the house. Then she completely changed her opinion. If Jade was really as bad as she's painted, how did she manage to win her round? Clearly she saw enough to convince her that her previous impression had been wrong.

This may be true of Jackiey but certainly not Jade. I recall both Dirk and Shilpa using the word 'smart' to describe Jade - misguided as that may seem.

I don 't think Jade is any more mature than in 2002. Would a mature girl go into a blind rage over Oxo cubes? I think Jade now has an ego and it's her ego coupled with a lack of brain cells that has got her into this mess.

[CharlotteSometimes]

'Smart' has so many meanings, though. Few of them are positive.

This is one of the reasons why I feel the need to bang my head against a brick wall. Shilpa started that argument, by being so incredibly pathetic as to moan about a few stock cubes. In all of BB history, it's difficult to think of another incident as ridiculous. Then again, I'm sure there was another agenda entirely from the outset as far as that situation is concerned. Everyone has an ego, and it takes a seriously inflated one to think you've any right to call people to task for consuming something that was equally theirs as it was yours in the first place.

[Ruth]

It wasn't a few stock cubes. It was (I believe) 75% of the stock cubes, in a week where food was low, and it was divided between 3 people! There were a lot more than three people in that house. A little bit of consideration would not have gone amiss.

Shilpa may have had another agenda, or she may not have done. None of us know.

[John15]

Shilpa shouldent of won CBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zachary]

^^ Why not? She was a worthy winner... no one else deserved it. Hater

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes


This is one of the reasons why I feel the need to bang my head against a brick wall. Shilpa started that argument, by being so incredibly pathetic as to moan about a few stock cubes.

The stock cube argument started when Jade flat out refused to, along with her crew, be JUSTIFIABLY confronted by someone for using up the majority of the stock cubes in a house where things need to be spared and shared. You can 'bang your head against the wall' as long as you enjoy it, but the fact remains that you are wrong, and nothing can help your case.

Originally posted by Ruth
It wasn't a few stock cubes. It was (I believe) 75% of the stock cubes, in a week where food was low, and it was divided between 3 people! There were a lot more than three people in that house. A little bit of consideration would not have gone amiss.


Youre absolutely right Ruth, and back in January when we were watching it on television it was a hot topic of debate, but here in March, where the incident is more or less laid to rest after rational people accepting what happened and the need for Devil's Advocates non existent, it bemuses me that we still talk about it.

[zachary]

^ Yeah, didn't they use THREE stock cubes for one serving pasta!! That is just stupid!!

[James]

It was Jade and co's reaction to the stock-cube incident that people didn't like. It was just so vicious and angry. There was a very nasty bitching session later on that didn't make it to the highlights either.

The bullying and bitching against Shilpa started long before the stock-cube incident, anyway.

[GiRTh]

Another astonishing post by CharlotteSometimes


Originally posted by CharlotteSometimesThis is one of the reasons why I feel the need to bang my head against a brick wall. Shilpa started that argument, by being so incredibly pathetic as to moan about a few stock cubes.

You again mention that Shilpa started the argument. At the stage when the 'argument' started it was little more than a discussion of why they were low on stock cubes. After Shilpa (calmly) made the (incorrect) point that it was the only thing she ordered Jade flew into a very aggressive, rather threatening rage. I don’t see how you feel Shilpa deserved this treatment. You act like Shilpa was taunting Jade like someone would cruelly poke and taunt a caged wild animal. Get real.

In all of BB history, it's difficult to think of another incident as ridiculous.

There have been many incidents.

Saskia telling Makosi to ****** off to America over three cans of cider. Barrymore and Galloway going at it like two razorbacks over cigars. Shell calling Victor a very rude word after they’d had a tiny spat. One of the things I like about the show is the pettiness of the arguing.

Then again, I'm sure there was another agenda entirely from the outset as far as that situation is concerned.

Maybe? Maybe not? Who are we to say?

Everyone has an ego, and it takes a seriously inflated one to think you've any right to call people to task for consuming something that was equally theirs as it was yours in the first place.

LOL and am still laughing. What did you think you were watching? Let me explain the concept of the reality TV show Big Brother. Sorry I don’t have enough time. I will ask, do you feel it was reasonable to consume 75% of a scarce ration in one single sitting, even if it was “equally theirs”, and then go into a vicious rage when asked about the matter?

You're starting to repeat yourself and you have nothing more than a misguided almost oft kilter belief that Shipa started the argument, Shilpa’s a bit high and mighty; the girl’s behaviour wasn’t that bad, Dirk should have laughed with Cleo etc. You need to get some new material this stuffs becoming dated. We've seen and heard it all before.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by GRiT

do you feel it was reasonable to consume 75% of a scarce ration in one single sitting



I too would like to hear your answer to that question Charlotte.

[expat]

Char;otte doesn't cook

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Jo would be wise to avoid Shilpa at all costs. Anyone who spends a little time with her, but refuses to fall to their knees kissing her feet and to allow her to talk down to them simply because they're honest, decent - but working class - is accused of being a racist and a bully. But wait - that's already happened. No point in locking the gate after the horse has already bolted, huh?

I don't see that Shilpa - or any of the other housemates - looked down on Jade and Co because they are 'working class'. To be frank - I don't give a toss where someone comes from, geographically or financially, but I really wouldn't have enjoyed the company of Jade, Jo or Danielle if I had been in the house. If that makes me a snob, well so be it.

Honest and decent? I'd say Jade is honest, but certainly not decent. That much was clear from her behaviour in BB3! Danielle is neither honest nor decent. As for Jo - I'm not sure. I think she is a very fragile person who went along with who she perceived to be the strongest group in the house. Much like the way that some schoolchildren will hang around with the bullies just to avoid being bullied themselves.


Jo O'Meara is not Jade Goody, but, she will display certain similarities to her.

She is not a follower and is stronger than you think.

When Jo came out of the house, she spoke her own mind.

Also, Jo went to the newspapers and did not follow Jade Goody's lead. She did her own thing in her own way.

This was evident and absolutly true. Jo is not a follower, she is exactly what you witnessed and I am not stating facts here as I don't know her myself, however, just looking at Jo's interview in the news and also with Davina, she is following no one.

If you asked her that question today.

You'll see that I am right! It doesn't take much to work out?

[GiRTh]

More drivel.
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jo O'Meara is not Jade Goody, but, she will display certain similarities to her.
I thought Jo was 'Jade Goody'. I can never tell them apart.
She is not a follower and is stronger than you think.
Who is stronger than I think Jo or 'Jade Goody'.
When Jo came out of the house, she spoke her own mind

Also, Jo went to the newspapers and did not follow Jade Goody's lead. She did her own thing in her own way.
True dat. Do you think that was a good idea, in hindsight? Perhaps she should have followed 'Jade Goody's' lead and manufactured some sympathy.

This was evident and absolutly true. Jo is not a follower, she is exactly what you witnessed and I am not stating facts here as I don't know her myself, however, just looking at Jo's interview in the news and also with Davina, she is following no one.

If you asked her that question today.

You'll see that I am right! It doesn't take much to work out?
Good for her.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
More drivel.
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jo O'Meara is not Jade Goody, but, she will display certain similarities to her.
I thought Jo was 'Jade Goody'. I can never tell them apart.
She is not a follower and is stronger than you think.
Who is stronger than I think Jo or 'Jade Goody'.
When Jo came out of the house, she spoke her own mind

Also, Jo went to the newspapers and did not follow Jade Goody's lead. She did her own thing in her own way.
True dat. Do you think that was a good idea, in hindsight? Perhaps she should have followed 'Jade Goody's' lead and manufactured some sympathy.

This was evident and absolutly true. Jo is not a follower, she is exactly what you witnessed and I am not stating facts here as I don't know her myself, however, just looking at Jo's interview in the news and also with Davina, she is following no one.

If you asked her that question today.

You'll see that I am right! It doesn't take much to work out?
Good for her.

"more drivel!!!"

your opinion GRIT!!!

The answers, as follows:-
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Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara are not the same people.

One is blonde and is in debt! and the other is dark haired on that show and also, is worth a few quid!

I could go on, but I don't want to bore you.
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Jo O'Meara has shown weakness recently, as she attempted suicide. However, that was moment of weakness and even the strongest of celebrities can also fall down to attempted suicide.

But generally, Jo has done pretty well in her life.

Certainly not showing signs of weakness.

Jade Goody is much stronger than her, of course! Much tougher, due to her background. But Jade Goody is going to show Danielle and Jo that you have to fight to win.

Jade fought first. But, that doesn't mean that Jo is a follower. If she does fight back.

Money has a lot to do with this.

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Jade Goody has manufactured nothing.

She cares for her children and is fighting for justice! What do you expect her to do?

Jo O'Meara was stupid with both interviews and I am furious at how naive she was at that point.

She buried herself.

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However, Jade Goody was sorry and Jo O'Meara wasn't sorry. We all saw and read that part.

Both girls were honest and Both girl's were true to form.

Jo O'Meara looks at this whole episode as three girls not clicking with Shilpa Shetty, not, because of her race, but, because they didn't click.

Jade Goody is different. Jade regrets the things that were said and also, Jade has admitted her wrong doing and also says that she doesn't know how to argue.

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If you don't like all three of the girls, but you do like Shilpa, then your opinions of the incident are clouded judgements.

I am actually blaming no one. It is a reality show, made famous by arguments and strong disagreements.

This is the shows appeal and many do & might play to the cameras, for whatever reasons.

This has been taken with such seriousness and scrutiny.

Just like Davina McCall said in her interview with Charlotte Church.

As shown here:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNvTCVVT-iY

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

"more drivel!!!"

your opinion GRIT!!!




My opinion too. I don't know why you bother replying Grit? It's just the same postings over and over again. Ignore him, he may get bored and go away.

[GiRTh]

Even more Rhubarb from the 'Jade Goody' worshipper.

Originally posted by nodisharmony

"more drivel!!!"

your opinion GRIT!!!not just mine, let me assure you.Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara are not the same people.

One is blonde and is in debt! and the other is dark haired on that show and also, is worth a few quid!

I could go on, but I don't want to bore you.
Thanks for clearing that up. I've recently discovered my ability to see and figured that out for myself.
Jade Goody is much stronger than her, of course! Much tougher, due to her background. But Jade Goody is going to show Danielle and Jo that you have to fight to win.

Jade fought first. But, that doesn't mean that Jo is a follower. If she does fight back.

Money has a lot to do with this.Of course 'Jade goody' is stronger than JO, you've just said so.Jade Goody has manufactured nothing.

Again. You said it so it must be true. You only deal in FACTS!!!
However, Jade Goody was sorry and Jo O'Meara wasn't sorry. We all saw and read that part.How do you know 'Jade Goody' was sorry. Is it the voices in your head?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BAZG
Originally posted by nodisharmony

"more drivel!!!"

your opinion GRIT!!!




My opinion too. I don't know why you bother replying Grit? It's just the same postings over and over again. Ignore him, he may get bored and go away.

I'm having too much fun sparring with the whackjob.

[James]

Locking this cause it's about a poster and not really about the topic anymore.

[James]

Better for the forum if you've got issues with another poster if can you communicate them privately, by u2u, rather than on the forum.