Has Hollywood star found tomb of Jesus?

[Mrluvaluva]

From the Daily Mirror:

By Vanessa Allen 27/02/2007

TITANIC director James Cameron yesterday unveiled a 2,000-year-old "bone box" - and said it was Jesus's coffin.

It is one of 10 metre-long caskets discovered by builders who stumbled on an ancient tomb near Jerusalem. The others are allegedly caskets that held the bones of Mary, Joseph, Mary Magdalene and Judah - said to be Jesus's son.

In New York, Cameron showed a press conference the caskets of Jesus and Mary Magdalene - calling them "one of the greatest archaeological finds of all time."

He said one has "Jesus, son of Joseph" scratched on it in ancient Aramaic while the other has "Mariamne" - Mary Magdalene's real name - in Greek.

Another casket is said to have the inscription "Judah, son of Jesus". Cameron, who has made a documentary about the caskets, said the find bolstered the theory that Jesus married Mary and had a child.

He added that finding the names of the holy family together was the equivalent of discovering a grave marked Ringo alongside a John, Paul and George.

Cameron said DNA tests on the coffins showed Mary and Jesus were not related - further proof they may have been married.

But he has angered clerics who say claims that Jesus had a coffin contradict Christian belief in the resurrection.

And Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to study the caskets when they were found 26 years ago, branded the claims "nonsense". He added: "They are the most common names among Jews at the time."

What do you think?

[GiRTh]

Yeah!!! Watertight!!!

I like the Beatles reference. That clinches it!!!!!

What a load of old scrote.

[Mrluvaluva]

Why is it a load of old scrote? Makes you think though doesn't it. I find it quite interesting and it will be good to see how the story develops.

[GiRTh]

It's full of holes. How do they connect these random caskets to Jesus the son of God. The Beatles reference is a daft analogy because I think there probably are caskets with those names on them buried next to each other. It's one hell of a leap to find these caskets and then connect them to the son of God.

[Mrluvaluva]

Doesn't mean it's not true though does it? They could be. Maybe we'll never know, but the possibility is there.

[BigSister]

it could be trude but i doubt it quite intreting though

[Mrluvaluva]

This photo shows the facade of the burial tomb in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Talpiot, where the ossuaries were found.

[Mrluvaluva]

This ossuary has the inscription Yeshua Bar Yehosef (Jesus son of Joseph).

[Siouxsie]

mmmmmmmmm interesting but personally i dont tink i believe it :rolleyes:

[Psylocke]

Cool story tho,cant deny its interesting.

[MarkWaldorf]

If it is, I think everything about Jesus could be answered.

[Mrluvaluva]

There's a programme about it on the discovery channel on Sunday.

[MarkWaldorf]

Is this real? Have they actually found his tomb?

[Mrluvaluva]

Yes! Check it out on the BBC news website.

[MarkWaldorf]

Wow. And his bones were really in there?

[Lauren]

LOL, bet he has a film or something coming out soon. What perfect publicity, eh.



He said one has "Jesus, son of Joseph" scratched on it in ancient Aramaic


How fitting that it has a name and a mini-description on it :hugesmile:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Lauren
LOL, bet he has a film or something coming out soon. What perfect publicity, eh.



He said one has "Jesus, son of Joseph" scratched on it in ancient Aramaic


How fitting that it has a name and a mini-description on it :hugesmile:

They did use to do that. You see some old gravestones that say things like "here lies Peter, son of Jack & Vera". Also, if there was a lot of Jesus's about, as it was a common name, and they didn't have surnames, it would be the only way to identify them.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by BAZG
They did use to do that. You see some old gravestones that say things like "here lies Peter, son of Jack & Vera". Also, if there was a lot of Jesus's about, as it was a common name, and they didn't have surnames, it would be the only way to identify them.

There's a possibility that the whole meta-narrative of God/Jesus was blown out of proportion. He may have just been a person much respected in a community (none of this miracle/making the World malarkey) and the stories have emphasised his importance so much that we have the modern day bible stories. Thats the only way I will possibly accept that this is the tombstone of "Jesus" who was probably just an ordinary bloke.

But my general feeling is that I am too cynical to accept that this is the son of the man who created the World and impregnated a 12 year old girl (Mary) without her consent/acknowledgment - and strangely has the ability to heal the wounded/dying. Bit too far-fetched in my opinion :hugesmile:

(I think I'm too cynical haha)

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Lauren

There's a possibility that the whole meta-narrative of God/Jesus was blown out of proportion. He may have just been a person much respected in a community (none of this miracle/making the World malarkey) and the stories have emphasised his importance so much that we have the modern day bible stories. Thats the only way I will possibly accept that this is the tombstone of "Jesus" who was probably just an ordinary bloke.

But my general feeling is that I am too cynical to accept that this is the son of the man who created the World and impregnated a 12 year old girl (Mary) without her consent/acknowledgment - and strangely has the ability to heal the wounded/dying. Bit too far-fetched in my opinion :hugesmile:

(I think I'm too cynical haha)


We will most probably never know the truth. "God" is a faith and a belief. It depends what you believe in, and how you perceive it. The unknown is interesting though, like my favourite unanswerable question about space & eternity. How can space go on forever? Surely it must come to a stop. But how can it? Something would have to stop it.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by BAZG
How can space go on forever? Surely it must come to a stop. But how can it? Something would have to stop it.

What would exist if we didn't? Whats beyond the universe?

My brain hurts.

[GiRTh]

Stop with all the metaphysics and existentialism it always leads to headaches.

I agree with Lauren. The bible is an extremely contradictory book but it talks of a second coming. If there is ever a second coming of Christ the Christians would be the last ones convinced.

[Sophii3x]

How would they know if it's Jesus or not?
Anyway.. I thought Jesus never died :|

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
How would they know if it's Jesus or not?
Anyway.. I thought Jesus never died :|

Yeah, didn't he just disappear, ready for a second-coming?

Meh, it has too many contradictions for me to believe it.

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Sophii3x
How would they know if it's Jesus or not?
Anyway.. I thought Jesus never died :|

Yeah, didn't he just disappear, ready for a second-coming?

Meh, it has too many contradictions for me to believe it.

yea.. He was put on the cross, died, put in the tomb, woke up

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Sophii3x
How would they know if it's Jesus or not?
Anyway.. I thought Jesus never died :|

Yeah, didn't he just disappear, ready for a second-coming?

Meh, it has too many contradictions for me to believe it.

yea.. He was put on the cross, died, put in the tomb, woke up


yeah, and then off down the pub for a party!! Seriously, if "God " exists, it is on another plane that we are not capable of comprehending.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by BAZG The unknown is interesting though, like my favourite unanswerable question about space & eternity. How can space go on forever? Surely it must come to a stop. But how can it? Something would have to stop it.

Ooo look at you getting deep. Sometimes I reckon youre not as thick as you come across Bazg, I reckon theres something bigger than a peanut knocking around in that little old head of yours.

Whats happening with Jesus then? Do we have to start pretending he's the son of God again?

Also, what's that Titanic bloke doing mucking about in Jerusalem digging up bodies. Shouldnt he be making films?

[Bells]

It's all about theories isn't it, we can't possibly be 100% sure of the truth. That'd be extremely interesting if it was the tomb of Jesus though - and Mary Magdalene, about whom there have been so many further theories. If you look at all the holy books, they all have similar underlying principles, but of course with differences as well. I personally think a lot of it is to do with the fact that they were revealed in different time zones, and perhaps got distorted and changed by people as time went on. Which is why every time a new 'prophet' came to Earth, the message was revealed again. Some religions believe that Jesus was simply a prophet, sent to give the message, not the son of God or God himself. That would explain to an extent why he had a tomb! But either way, it's all a bit brain-boggling and only when we find out more about these mysterious tombs etc. can we make more deductions.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

Ooo look at you getting deep. Sometimes I reckon youre not as thick as you come across Bazg, I reckon theres something bigger than a peanut knocking around in that little old head of yours.



Oh, here we go. Who let the chav trash in!!

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by BAZG
chav trash

Nothing like a good old Americanism for when you cant think of an adjective for your out of context British stereotype.

I take it back bazzy. A peanut it must surely be. :laugh:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by BAZG
chav trash

Nothing like a good old Americanism for when you cant think of an adjective for your out of context British stereotype.

I take it back bazzy. A peanut it must surely be. :laugh:

Oh, I forgot to limit my vocabulary for small minded idiots like you. You cannot even hold a meaningful conversation without resorting to cheap jibes (just like you made me do, you puppet master you)!

[rex3]

There was a stunt like this last year, about an elleged stone inscription about jesus, revealing how fake christianity is. It turned out to be a fake made by two Israeli professionals.

I think the same is with the tomb, there trying to put the final nail in the coffin for christianity...

[Mrluvaluva]

But these tombs have been authenticated to be approx 2,000 years old. They are not fake. That's the difference.

[rex3]

I refuse to believe anything that comes out of a hollywood producer...

I guarantee there's a conspiracy, this wont get no-where apart from an oscar and some money for that producer.

[Mrluvaluva]

Watch the programme on Sunday, and then make your mind up.

[rex3]

what time what channel on sunday?

[Mrluvaluva]

21.00 on The Discovery channel. Lasts for 2 hours.

[tinkerbell]

this sunday?

[Emilee]

OMG! Thank you so much Bagz for this article. I found it really interesting. Its a really facinating story but its too much for me to understand let alone beleive that it is really Jesus in that tomb. But it is a really great theory and i cant think at the moment my brain is hurting. Im going to watch that programme - will be really amazing!

[Psylocke]

Next.The finding of the Easter Bunnies easter egg haven and The tooth Fairys Mushroom House.

[rex3]

I would like to announce iv done some research and that, with todays resources for creating new technology.

IT IS POSSIBLE TO FAKE THE AGE OF AN ELEMENT!!!

Carbon-dating which is the process scientists take to verify how old something is. Is done by scanning that object, and seeing how much Carbon-14 is in that object. (over time Carbon-14 is reduced in an object, allowing us to know how old that object is.)

The thing is... and the reason why scientists aren't so excited about these finds is that, corporations with enough money, can get Carbon-14 into that object to fake it's age!!!!


It's a conspiracy to break christianity once and for all, so the corprate world can fully exploit people. I hope the number of christians do not reduce by these fake Headline grabbing crap.

[Mrluvaluva]

I'm still sceptical and the programme should be an interesting watch.