Notting Hill "carnival" at it again..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Family day was yesterday :facepalm:

Boy of 6 stabbed police arrest 105 for carrying drugs and knives (24 for carrying a knife) and 71 revellers are taken to hospital. Gardens used as toilets and residents in terror and many police hours wasted - it also costs millions

Do you think it is time to end this shameful "carnival"?


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[arista]

http://e3.365dm.com/16/08/206x116/da943fa272ca5db543bc2759cc98b7f4643d3c23790e84f7bf 7385de67137a32_3774816.jpg?20160828210202

[Ambulance crews treat 345 people,
taking 43 to hospital,
on the popular event's day
for children and families.
Four people have been stabbed
at Notting Hill Carnival,
with one man fighting for
his life in hospital.
Emergency services were
called to Wornington Road
in Kensington and Chelsea
at 4.25pm on Sunday,
the day the festival is dedicated
to children and families.
A second man was arrested on
suspicion of causing
grievous bodily harm.]


They should stop it
or move it to Hyde Park
in my view


http://news.sky.com/story/man-in-critical-condition-after-one-of-four-stabbings-at-notting-hill-carnival-10556445

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its the poor residents and police I feel sorry for

[Beso]

About time they treated the scum like scum.

[Kizzy]

It is a shame that the day was marred by a criminal element, but there is a criminal element that's a given, how could it be allowed for those to ruin future events?
Social unrest at times of national instability is not uncommon either.

[Shaun]

I don't think it should end any more than Glastonbury/Reading should end because someone seems to die every year through drug abuse. The organisers aren't accountable for idiots being idiots, and the majority of goers shouldn't have to suffer the actions of a handful.

[Vicky.]

Why on earth does this carnival attract criminals in such a way? I have honestly never heard of this but I assume the same thing happens every year with arrests and injuries?

[arista]

Why on earth does this carnival attract criminals in such a way? I have honestly never heard of this but I assume the same thing happens every year with arrests and injuries?


Folks with money go to it
to have a good day.


Hot Food to buy in Cash
as well

[arista]

I don't think it should end any more than Glastonbury/Reading should end because someone seems to die every year through drug abuse. The organisers aren't accountable for idiots being idiots, and the majority of goers shouldn't have to suffer the actions of a handful.


but move it to Hyde Park
would stop the Punks
getting in.

Metal search to walk through

[hijaxers]

but move it to Hyde Park
would stop the Punks
getting in.

Metal search to walk through

Park would die a death with all all that piss !

[armand.kay]

It's such a shame things like this happen because it really is a great day out and the atmosphere is amazing. I think ending carnival would just punish the people who work very hard to organise it and those who attend with good intentions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think it should end any more than Glastonbury/Reading should end because someone seems to die every year through drug abuse. The organisers aren't accountable for idiots being idiots, and the majority of goers shouldn't have to suffer the actions of a handful.

Glastonbury total arrested 2016.........11

[Alf]

If they can't behave themselves, then ban it.

[Kizzy]

If they can't behave themselves, then ban it.

Who are 'they'?

[Alf]

Who are 'they'?Anybody you want them to be.

[Kizzy]

So the actions of a handful should spell the end for the enjoyment of 1000s?

[Alf]

So the actions of a handful should spell the end for the enjoyment of 1000s?That's what they said about The Colosseum.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So the actions of a handful should spell the end for the enjoyment of 1000s?

do you think the residents of NH enjoy this invasion?

[Cherie]

The stabbings were carried out by 14 to 19 year olds :bored:

[Kizzy]

do you think the residents of NH enjoy this invasion?

I would say it was one of the reasons they moved to the area for this annual event as opposed to the many other London boroughs.

[Kizzy]

That's what they said about The Colosseum.

As in ancient Rome killing slaves Colosseum, where's the connection in this analogy?...You've lost me.

[Alf]

As in ancient Rome killing slaves Colosseum, where's the connection in this analogy?...You've lost me.You're not alone, I lose everyone.

[Kizzy]

You're not alone, I lose everyone.

Alrighty then...

[Ammi]

...sadly, idiots will always be inevitable in any large gathering, thankfully no life threatening injuries though..and really quite a remarkably low percentage of aggression/violence with over 1 million people estimated to have attended...the vibe of the carnival must be amazing..:love:...


http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/57c407a41800002100bcdb42.jpeg

[Crimson Dynamo]

Carnage at the Notting Hill Carnival: Police arrest 450 people - the highest in 15 years - as fighting breaks out and six people are stabbed
108 people arrested for drugs offences and 64 for offensive weapon (blade) offences just yesterday
Revellers took to streets of West London - throwing paint, mud, chocolate or powder at each other
Stabbing of six people in knife attacks plus 454 arrests overshadowed Europe's largest carnival



ARRESTS AT PREVIOUS NOTTING HILL CARNIVALS
2015 - Sun 126; Mon 281 (∑ 407)
2014 - Sun 104; Mon 148 (∑ 252)
2013 - Sun 111; Mon 190 (∑ 301)
2012 - Sun 98; Mon 180 (∑ 278)
2011 - Sun 73; Mon 172 (∑ 245)
2010 - Sun 93; Mon 150 (∑ 243)
2009 - Sun 78; Mon 165 (∑ 243)
2008 - Sun 108; Mon 172 (∑280)
2007 - Sun 82; Mon 164 (∑ 246)
2006 - Sun 109; Mon 168 (∑ 277)
2005 - Sun 61; Mon 122 (∑ 183)
2004 - Sun 62; Mon 105 (∑ 167)
2003 - Sun 91; Mon 95 (∑ 186)
2002 - Sun 56; Mon 102 (∑ 158)


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3763270/Boy-15-one-SIX-people-stabbed-Notting-Hill-Carnival.html#ixzz4Indyy7Hx

[Brother Leon]

Had a great time on both days as did most people :idc:

[Tom4784]

Can't let an extreme minority ruin it for everyone.

[Brother Leon]

Simple Maths....

Notting Hill Carnival arrest rate - 0.04%
Glastonbury arrest rate - 0.1%
-

Time to cancel Glastonbury.

[Niamh.]

Simple Maths....

Notting Hill Carnival arrest rate - 0.04%
Glastonbury arrest rate - 0.1%
-

Time to cancel Glastonbury.

:hehe:

[arista]

No The Police are Angry now
as so many got attacked.

It was the worse event
because so many punks were armed with knifes

[Crimson Dynamo]

most people who called LBC said its ok in the morning but not as it gets towards evening, very dangerous

That was my experience - and lets face it once you have seen a girl in high heels with peacock feather coming out her fat arse and listened to some god awful steel band you have seen and heard enough

move it to Brixton

[Crimson Dynamo]

Notting Hill Carnival: Police officers 'dread' the event


Some police officers "dread" the Notting Hill Carnival and are being used as "professional punchbags", according to rank-and-file officers.
They have called for a "full-scale review" of Carnival after eight of them were hurt and taken to hospital.
Police made 454 arrests and four people were wounded in stabbings during the annual celebration.
Ken Marsh, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said the event was being "hijacked" by troublemakers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37212493


I think i will listen to those who know. Poor police having to attend this dreadful event

[Crimson Dynamo]

Organisers are facing fresh calls to relocate the Notting Hill carnival to a London park after 16 people were stabbed at this year's event, including one teenager who was left with horrific stomach wounds.

Kensington MP Victoria Borwick, who spent yesterday with officers policing the carnival, said she was appalled by the level of violence. “This is supposed to be a carnival, a fun family event, but gangs come with the specific aim of causing crime,” she told the Standard.

“I am not anti-carnival but are we going to carry on putting up with this level of crime. I feel the carnival should be given more space, in wider streets or in a London park.

"We need to move it to somewhere gangs do not chase each other through the streets.” She said one boy suffered terrible injuries after being stabbed in the stomach.


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/move-notting-hill-carnival-to-a-park-fresh-calls-after-horrific-stabbing-of-teenager-a3332271.html

:clap1:

shameful weekend of violence

[Tom4784]

0.04%

[bots]

it does have a problem and should be re-located to a more suitable location

[Niamh.]

it does have a problem and should be re-located to a more suitable location

what's unsuitable about it's location?

[Crimson Dynamo]

it does have a problem and should be re-located to a more suitable location

like Cornwall

[Kizzy]

How would moving it solve anything?

[bots]

what's unsuitable about it's location?

its a residential area, not suitable for large gatherings. Better its put in a purpose ready location with appropriate facilities and safety precautions where people can still have a good time, but also be safe.

[Cherie]

its a residential area, not suitable for large gatherings. Better its put in a purpose ready location with appropriate facilities and safety precautions where people can still have a good time, but also be safe.


I guess the location suited when it started years ago it's got too big now, must be a nightmare for residents trying to go about their business

[arista]

2024 Notting Hill Carnival

Another stabbing
has been reported tonight.

[arista]

[A man in his 20s has been stabbed at
Notting Hill Carnival, the Met Police has said.

The force said his injuries were not thought
to be life-threatening and a section 60 order,
which gives officers additional powers to
search suspects, would be in place
until 02:00 BST.

About 7,000 officers are patrolling
this year's street festival in
West London, which is expected to
attract about one million people across
Sunday and Bank Holiday Monday.

Officers have arrested 38 people and
recovered four knives, the force said.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4geznqv7d9o

[Beso]

Tomorrows the big day, today was children's day, perhaps why the amount of stabbings rose..

But hey ho, the government and local councils will still endorse and celebrate it whilst locking other people up for shouting too loudly at the police.

[UserSince2005]

It’s fun for them. Let them enjoy it.

[Beso]

I guess the location suited when it started years ago it's got too big now, must be a nightmare for residents trying to go about their business

They board the whole place up, just watch the first 5 minutes of this walking video, theres enough plywood on show to build an ark to float away in all the piss. Just look at all the rubbish lying around, and this looks pretty early on..

All the biardedbup business and houses just make it a walled procession of nothingness.

The video.
https://youtu.be/6mI0RBL6ZAM?si=QxpDY0mXt2aVu5Rr

[Beso]

https://youtube.com/shorts/aK778o9jagI?si=w8ar9sQaXGE_mUoQ

[Beso]

11.45am

And there is more shelf on show than BnQ..


https://youtube.com/shorts/PdHeftRokmI?si=hYmUN69nku05jjSc

[Beso]

https://youtube.com/shorts/B2QxHtCJWZI?si=bucGLFpYM-DRaz_h

[arista]

Thanks for posting the videos.

[arista]

It’s fun for them. Let them enjoy it.


Put it in Hyde Park
would be better

[arista]

New Update 2024 Notting Hill Carnival

3 people stabbed

Ref: BBC

[Beso]

New Update 2024 Notting Hill Carnival

3 people stabbed

Ref: BBC

The full total for 2 days of a 3 day event is 5.

[Vanessa]

It's not safe anymore. I haven't been there in a long time.

[arista]

90 arrests,
On lady stabbed is now critical


SkyNewsHD update.

[Beso]

90 arrests,
On lady stabbed is now critical


SkyNewsHD update.

More flesh on show than pride.



And more blood by the looks of it, unless were counting the sorry morning bottoms during pride.

[GoldHeart]

I swear there's always stabbings happening everywhere now.

[arista]

61 Police officers were assaulted
in this years event

[bots]

are the crime figures up or down on last year

[thesheriff443]

I swear there's always stabbings happening everywhere now.

Always have been it just being reported more these days

[Cherie]

Always have been it just being reported more these days

Simply not true this is pretty out of date but even in 2019 it had risen by 80% over a 5 year period

There were 43,516 knife crime offences in the 12 months ending March 2019.

This is an 80% increase from the low-point in the year ending March 2014, when there were 23,945 offences, and is the highest number since comparable data was compiled.

These statistics do not include those from Greater Manchester Police because of data recording issues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42749089#:~:text=The%20explanations%20for%20rising %20knife%20crime%20have%20ranged,the%20use%20by%20 police%20of%20stop%20and%20search.

Out of the 44 police forces, 43 recorded a rise in knife crime since 2011.

[thesheriff443]

Knife crime has always been around it’s just grown like everything else

[UserSince2005]

Nosy white people always want to get involved.
Let them get on with their culture.

[arista]

Nosy white people always want to get involved.
Let them get on with their culture.


Of Course
but you need to understand
rival gangs who are mostly black folks
fight there
That's not what the celebration is about, at all.



Reported by Top Home and Security Reporter
Mark White, today

[GoldHeart]

Knife crime has always been around it’s just grown like everything else

I know it's always been around,but it's definitely alot worse now .

[arista]

New Update 2024 NHC

8 People were stabbed

over 300 Arrested

The Lady was caught between two fighting gangs
she is 32 years old and was stabbed
is still critical in the Hospital.


Ref: BBC1HD London News Live

[Vanessa]

New Update 2024 NHC

8 People were stabbed

over 300 Arrested

The Lady was caught between two fighting gangs
she is 32 years old and was stabbed
is still critical in the Hospital.


Ref: BBC1HD London News Live
So glad I'm not going to this anymore.
It has changed so much.

[arista]

So glad I'm not going to this anymore.
It has changed so much.

You are Most Wise

[arista]

1829104697472376957

[Cherie]

New Update 2024 NHC

8 People were stabbed

over 300 Arrested

The Lady was caught between two fighting gangs
she is 32 years old and was stabbed
is still critical in the Hospital.


Ref: BBC1HD London News Live

she was trying to stop a fight and now might need to have her leg amputated....

[arista]

she was trying to stop a fight and now might need to have her leg amputated....

Yes this is terrible

[arista]

2 Deaths this Year

The Chef fella (Mr. Mussie Imnetu, his name)
who was stabbed on the Monday has Died

The Mother who was stabbed
has also sadly died (Cher Maximen , her name)

SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

she was trying to stop a fight and now might need to have her leg amputated....



She has sadly died.

[Cherie]

She has sadly died.

Omg that is horrendous poor lady and her poor child who was with her

[Cherie]

2 Deaths this Year

The Chef fella (Mr. Mussie Imnetu, his name)
who was stabbed on the Monday has Died

The Mother who was stabbed
has also sadly died (Cher Maximen , her name)

SkyNewsHD Live

No way that is just awful, where is Khan or Starmer

[arista]

No way that is just awful, where is Khan or Starmer



The Mayor needs to say something.

[arista]

The Chef came from Dubia.

[Cherie]

The Mayor needs to say something.

Bit late isn't it? he should have come out after it happened, if he says anything now it really is too little too late

[arista]

On SkyNewsHD

Police Commander Charmain Brenyah Lady was talking.

Murder Investigation


The Young Lady had her 3 year old daughter
and other family with her.

One man has been charged



The Young Chef had worked with Gordon Ramsey.

[arista]

The Mayor has Now given a Statement

[Cherie]

The Mayor has Now given a Statement

what is it?

[arista]

what is it?


[Mayor of London Sadiq Khan responded to news
of the deaths saying it was

"heart-breaking".

He said: "My thoughts are with their families and
friends at this truly terrible time.

"This violence is shocking, completely
unacceptable and a betrayal of the
values that (Notting Hill) Carnival was founded to celebrate."]


https://news.sky.com/story/two-deaths-after-notting-hill-carnival-mother-stabbed-in-front-of-child-and-tourist-attacked-13206755

[arista]

Next year it would be better in Hyde Park
more room there

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWUOtvQXEAA7RCA?format=jpg&name=small

Photo from the Daily Telegraph


Mother Cher Maximen on the left
Top Chef Mussie Imnetu on the right


Sadly both were stabbed to death

[Livia]

[Mayor of London Sadiq Khan responded to news
of the deaths saying it was

"heart-breaking".

He said: "My thoughts are with their families and
friends at this truly terrible time.

"This violence is shocking, completely
unacceptable and a betrayal of the
values that (Notting Hill) Carnival was founded to celebrate."]


https://news.sky.com/story/two-deaths-after-notting-hill-carnival-mother-stabbed-in-front-of-child-and-tourist-attacked-13206755

He can use that same statement every year.

[Cherie]

There was more of a fuss made over buildings being attacked in the riots than there was over 8 stabbings, 4 critical and now 2 dead...

shocking stuff really, not downplaying the riots but they should be getting equal response from the government surely

I have heard people moan on the radio saying we never get any stats from Glastonbury, and that its racist that stats are released for the Carnival not sure anyone gets stabbed at Glasto and do they injure or sexually assault the police :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

There was more of a fuss made over buildings being attacked in the riots than there was over 8 stabbing, 4 critical and now 2 dead...

shocking stuff really, not downplaying the riots but they should be getting equal response from the government surely

What for the holy weekend of diversity and culture??

I cant see 2 Tier Kier getting up in front of the flags to condemn this...

[Cherie]

Met Police deputy assistant commissioner, Ade Adelekan, said at the weekend the carnival was supposed to be a "family day" but was "marred by unacceptable violence".

"We are tired of saying the same words every year," he said. "We are tired of telling families that their loved ones are seriously injured, or worse. We are tired of seeing crime scenes at Carnival."

During the previous two carnivals, one person was killed, 14 others were stabbed and more than 125 police officers were assaulted.

About 500 arrests were made at the carnival during those two years.

Measures had been taken to reduce crime, including officers being given greater stop-and-search powers and being allowed to order the removal of face coverings.

The Met said it had worked with event organisers for months to secure the event.

Kensington and Chelsea Council said rubbish to the equivalent weight of about 27 London buses had so far been cleared from the streets.

Approximately 30% of the waste will be recycled.

[Livia]

There was more of a fuss made over buildings being attacked in the riots than there was over 8 stabbings, 4 critical and now 2 dead...

shocking stuff really, not downplaying the riots but they should be getting equal response from the government surely

I have heard people moan on the radio saying we never get any stats from Glastonbury, and that its racist that stats are released for the Carnival not sure anyone gets stabbed at Glasto and do they injure or sexually assault the police :think:

Great point.

[bots]

i think there have been some stabbings at Glastonbury in the past, but not in significant numbers and definitely not with any regularity.

The carnival has always had lots of violence and robbery and nothing is ever really said about it and the police largely keep out of the way

[Oliver_W]

There was more of a fuss made over buildings being attacked in the riots than there was over 8 stabbings, 4 critical and now 2 dead...

shocking stuff really, not downplaying the riots but they should be getting equal response from the government surely



More people died at Carnival than during the multiple riots.

But some dustbins being set alight is the real problem.

[GoldHeart]

There was more of a fuss made over buildings being attacked in the riots than there was over 8 stabbings, 4 critical and now 2 dead...

shocking stuff really, not downplaying the riots but they should be getting equal response from the government surely

I have heard people moan on the radio saying we never get any stats from Glastonbury, and that its racist that stats are released for the Carnival not sure anyone gets stabbed at Glasto and do they injure or sexually assault the police :think:

I've never been to Glastonbury nor Notting hill ,but I would imagine trouble causing can still happen in both these settings. But it seems alot more violence happens at Notting hill for some reason, it's out of control . I think there's more security at Glastonbury...it seems there's more of a wits about them there .

I remember years ago I went to a music festival,and there was talk of checking people for weapons...and I'm sure there was a knife that had been chucked on the floor outside.

[Beso]

How many stabbings were there over carnival weekend outside of the carnival? I wonder because the police had walk through metal detectors set up, yet still couldn't fully control the stabbing figures. I'm wondering how many saw the gates and took their knife fights elsewhere.

[Beso]

Luckily we have the canary to tell us its everyone elses fault but the carnival goers.

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2024/08/27/notting-hill-carnival-racism/

[Livia]

Luckily we have the canary to tell us its everyone elses fault but the carnival goers.

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2024/08/27/notting-hill-carnival-racism/

Maybe the Met and the Corporate Right-wing media could just leave them to get on with it next year. See what happens...?

[Beso]

Maybe the Met and the Corporate Right-wing media could just leave them to get on with it next year. See what happens...?

Great point...