Big Brother "OTT" US (19th season) Discussion Thread

[LukeB]

Not confirmed but Shelby might have won veto

[DrunkerThanMoses]

There is no confirming. She won but producers will probably rig it and say she got a answer wrong when everyone knows she got all the answers right

[Headie]

There is no confirming. She won but producers will probably rig it and say she got a answer wrong when everyone knows she got all the answers right

Seeing as they rigged the HOH which Jason won this week so that Shelby could re-do it and then win HOH, I highly doubt that.

Shelby is production's fave it's quite obvious if you've been watching :laugh: Still think Jason will win it tho

[LukeB]

Comp queen Shelby won pov :worship:

Bye Trash or Danielle

but if Jason goes
https://66.media.tumblr.com/2291afd10ddaf35574c8657a5184bc7e/tumblr_nz9zidvExq1s2nj6io1_250.gif

[Macie Lightfoot]

SHELBS SWEEP...x

[LukeB]

Getting rid of the obvious winner or help Justin get a carepackge.. the answer should be obvious but they won't do it.

[karl100589]

GET JASON OUT.

[LukeB]

Jason - 14:58
Shelby - 9:38
Justin - 14:18
Kryssie - 16:06
Danielle - 23:13
Morgan - 19:37

Shelby smoked them all.

[JerseyWins]

Yes Shelby :clap1: Amazing news

[Jack_]

okay so I wanna catch up on this over the next few days, can someone link me a good place to watch please? Just planning on doing the weekly episodes & eviction ceremonies

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao so Morgan told Kryssie about the sister twist, and surprisingly Kryssie didn't tell Jason!!!

instead, she went to the DR and announced that she's too smart for Morgan, who is absolutely LYING about the sister twist :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

guys why don't more people like Kryssie she's a ****ing GEM

[Macie Lightfoot]

Exhibit B:

Kryssie DR: Bubbly persona. Jason is still her #1. Hopes w/ Danl leaving, her & Jason are in F3. Says her alliance w/ Shelby, Morg & Justin is fake. Calls Shelby & Morgan cowards for targeting Danl/Jason.

Kryssie says she did not throw the veto but she did not want to win it. Says her competitive side would not let her "not complete it". Kryssie says she will take Jason to the end w/ her bc everyone else is not willing to play a good game, like her.

Kryssie says she ended up in a big alliance, has played a decent game and deserves to sit there. Kryssie says "better than you is in the eye of the beholder". Kryssie says Justin would take a gracious third place. She wants someone to win that needs the $$. She wants it to be a difficult decision & wants to lose to someone she respects so she wants to sit next to Jason & Justin.

Kryssie is going to evict Danl bc she can't see "her boy" go. Says Danl has made peace with leaving. Kryssie says Danl is ready to go home and done what she came her to do. Kryssie claims credit for Justin switching his focus from Jason to Danl. Kryssie says Danl would rather leave and let Jason stay here. Says Danl is not quitting, she's gracefully bowing out.

Kryssie wants to win the HOH. Says she wants to pull out a miracle to win. Kryssie says the rest of the house views her as a pushover & not a threat and is confident everyone in the house will take her to F3. Kryssie is targeting Shelby and Kryssie takes credit for "puppeteering her alliance to get everyone out", except Shelby. Says she's been trying to get Shelby out since Week 1.

Kryssie ends her DR with her usual thank yous and kiss blowing.

[LukeB]

I'm still loving the fact that Shelby stole Jason's hoh after he stole hers.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Krysie and Jason being the next 2 go will make up this dire season anyway

[Jack_]

okay so I wanna catch up on this over the next few days, can someone link me a good place to watch please? Just planning on doing the weekly episodes & eviction ceremonies

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[Calderyon]

Have not watched any of this, is it any good?

The fact that Jason from BB17 is still in doesn´t suggest so though...

[starry]

A famous public torrent site has all episodes.

If you haven't watched any give it a try and see. Obviously it would be better without Jason.

[JerseyWins]

lmfao so Morgan told Kryssie about the sister twist, and surprisingly Kryssie didn't tell Jason!!!

instead, she went to the DR and announced that she's too smart for Morgan, who is absolutely LYING about the sister twist :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

guys why don't more people like Kryssie she's a ****ing GEM
This is actually pretty damn funny. :joker:

"Exhibit B" just showed some more of how she's just kind of an annoyance. I guess I get ironically finding her funny or rootable though but she's much more annoying to me. One of the biggest whiners & **** talkers in the house and she basically preaches the opposite.

[JerseyWins]

Oh and Kryssie's constant over dramatics can either be funny or annoying. It really just depends on the moment. I don't think she's awful btw but she's been one of my least favorites all season so yeah..

[Macie Lightfoot]

The new Head of Household is MORGANZA :love:

[JerseyWins]

Been watching tonight's episode now. The part where Morgan tells Kryssie that Alex is her sister is just priceless. :joker: Kryssie's reaction to Morgan telling her (both her in-person reaction & the DR)... :laugh3:

Also yes @ Morgan HOH. :clap1:

[LukeB]

Morgan being hoh :love:

Jason is being so bitter about it.

[BBfanUSA]

Hopefully Justin wins the F4 challenge and Jason goes home this week

[JerseyWins]

Oh yeah I forgot he has to win a challenge to be in the final 4.... damnit I was thinking Justin was definitely safe. :worry:

[starry]

Better Justin not winning, then has to play veto. Less chance then of Jason or Kristie winning it. Also I don't like him that much anyway, he just seems to have this sing and dance gimmick, and he's mainly sided with Jason.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

as long as Morgan or Shelby wins this POV then we are fine this week

[LukeB]

Lmfao Danielle has been exposed!!!! The thing she stood for was a lie, she isn't a misfit at all. She critises fat people and thinks same sex marriage is wrong. Disgusting.

Also she hates asians.

[BBfanUSA]

Update: Justin passed the challenge, he's in the final 4.

[Macie Lightfoot]

https://streamable.com/q7xn

A compilation of Kryssie's Comp losses and her excuses :love::love::love:

Also, Jason's apparently spent all weekend talking about how Shelby's a ***** and she's had more guys in her vagina than a NY subway and how he just wants to stick his dick in her mouth and **** on her face and all this other stuff that's real charming. And even more astonishing, he has fans and defenders!

[AarynGriesfan]

https://streamable.com/q7xn

A compilation of Kryssie's Comp losses and her excuses :love::love::love:

Also, Jason's apparently spent all weekend talking about how Shelby's a ***** and she's had more guys in her vagina than a NY subway and how he just wants to stick his dick in her mouth and **** on her face and all this other stuff that's real charming. And even more astonishing, he has fans and defenders!

That's not really astonishing at this point it's to be expected. After all even Paulie had supporters and Trump got elected despite all the stuff he said. Some people have horrible taste and just suck!

[AarynGriesfan]

I haven't been watching this season but I read the things that Jason said on reddit and it sounds worse than what even Paulie said. But I bet because of his mannerisms he's still got fans.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes because slay queen drag ha snatch wigs weaves mess. Something like that.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

yes because slay queen drag ha snatch wigs weaves mess. Something like that.

http://www.newnownext.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/tumblr_n1imjk63Nt1qlvwnco2_250.gif

[LukeB]

That's not really astonishing at this point it's to be expected. After all even Paulie had supporters and Trump got elected despite all the stuff he said. Some people have horrible taste and just suck!

Says the one who stans racism and homophobia.

[Jack_]

Just watched the second weekly episode (up to Monte's eviction) and lol three arguments in one show, it's already better than BB18 :joker:

They managed to pack quite a lot in content wise I thought, but I'm curious to know how accurate the edits have been so I can keep that in mind going forward?

[Jack_]

From a catch up perspective though it would be so much better if the weekly episode came after the eviction so that could be included in the episode, it's a tad annoying having to watch the (really awkward) live vote segment after

[Macie Lightfoot]

ugh poor Shelbs lost this physical crapshoot POV :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao and Morgan just BOMBED it, she had a gigantic maze meltdown and took 11 minutes (Justin's leading time is like 90 seconds ftr)

[Macie Lightfoot]

welp Jason won POV and pretty much BB:OTT so 2016 continues to be abhorrent

[JerseyWins]

Oh wtf

Not even worth finding out what's going on anymore.

I mean I'd still be really happy with Justin or Morgan winning but for whatever reason it's just hard to care about this season. (and I think Kryssie doesn't have a chance but I expect Jason to win)

[Jack_]

Up to Neeley's (wtf) eviction, my two minor highlights thus far have been legend Paul's return and Kryssie's 'you may as well put fishes on' *cuts to fishes* :joker: :joker: the editors actually have a good sense of humour for once it seems

Also...I'm guessing it goes without saying that the Ball Suckers or whatever they're called are America's faves? I was expecting the fanbase to be split if I'm honest :shrug: maybe the edit is a bit one-sided idk

[Macie Lightfoot]

"America" lol I think most forums liked the Ball Smashers more but Twitter *LOVES* the LNJ mainly because it's a bunch of preteen gays who make ~Slayvonne~ a thing (even though Da'Vonne is just all talk but that's for another time) and love Jason bc he's friends with Day, and obnoxiously stan him and Danielle and Kryssie because "they're minorities, they're the true victims!!!!! :( :( :("

As far as I'm concerned, the best approach is to appreciate the best people from both sides, Shelby and Kryssie :love: a lot of the LNJ are legit awful and the sisters (Alex in particular) are really boring and annoying.

[reece(:]

Neeley's meltdown is the series highlight

[Jack_]

I guess the forums are controlling the votes then, I was dumbfounded when Scott got a CP, when Danielle got America's Nom and then when Neeley was voted out over Scott

Anyway, I kinda agree, I prefer Jason's side obvs but am just enjoying a house divide that reminds me of BB6 and there's no one I really dislike yet (other than Monte and he's gone)? I want to like Alex but she's a tad annoying, Scott is a TRAGIC mess and I haven't made my mind up on him and the others are just kinda there for me

[LukeB]

Well that's it, BBOTT won't have a good winner because Jason is trash. It's quite annoying how Jason gets away with everything, the things he called a woman(Shelby) and the things he did are condoned because he's LGBT.

[Macie Lightfoot]

*EH* just keep watching hun....x

One more thing I forgot to add about the awful universe that is BBUS Twitter is that these dumb****s think they're legitimate SJWs standing up for what's right and it's just like... no. Sometimes a turd is a turd, regardless of if it's black or gay or a woman. The Danielle fans in particular were NUTS. Not quite the same fanbase as Zaulie since Danielle talked **** about them early on, but same effect. Like, say what you want about Hayden and how he seemingly roots for the blackest black girls of them all (I say this with love hun), but he doesn't try to turn it into some nauseatingly social justice message.

IDK... if you couldn't tell I'm still entirely exhausted by Big Brother US as a franchise and I'm not sure how much more I can take. I just realized today that Grodner's idea of character development is "Paul likes to bake muffins" and "Corey loves Christmas" with the cringiest hashtags. Not saying that I want to watch a particularly high concept show, but this show is embarrassingly low concept.

[Jack_]

It occurred to me earlier that when this concludes there'll have been 24 weeks of BBUS this year, that's almost half a year D:

How is this doing in terms of All Access uptake, does anyone know? Cause I saw something the other day about a rumour of another season in the new year, surely not...

[starry]

It's weird that two minor and very bitchy HGs from their season (Jason and Da'Vonne) got invited back. Both left a bitter taste on their return. Jason found more people to be his minions in this season than Da'Vonne did and so lasted longer.

[Macie Lightfoot]

well maybe part of the reason that the former HG is because it's a season significantly controlled by America Da'Vonne's Twitter army

[Headie]

Danielle is so messy on Twitter I love it

https://twitter.com/misslickeybb

[starry]

She's an idiot really, just one of Jason's sycophants.

[LukeB]

She's an idiot really, just one of Jason's sycophants.

She's more than a idiot, her views on gay marriage is disgusting, she actually wanted her dog to die and made a comment about asians so really she is fake and a hypocrite.

[starry]

She deleted loads of comments from her twitter after complaints, but left the dog ones.

Anyone who calls themselves 'queen' or the like is probably guaranteed some support on this forum whatever.

[Headie]

Idiotic Queen Danielle :worship:

[LukeB]

She deleted loads of comments from her twitter after complaints, but left the dog ones.

Anyone who calls themselves 'queen' or the like is probably guaranteed some support on this forum whatever.

I know but the funny thing is they will always be on twitter because of screenshots so there's no hiding from her bigot commets. Danielle fans are defending it but they slated Monty, talk about hypocrites.

[Jack_]

Can anyone tell me if there was an episode before the double eviction? I'm up to when Scott left and have spent almost two hours trying to find the next episode to no avail

There's a double eviction 'recap' but I don't want to watch it if there was one before

[Raph]

Have you tried bmx-tv.net?

[Jack_]

Yeah, it was that and videobrother I was using but the latter only goes up to day 30 and BMX appears to have taken all the links down for previous episodes overnight :shrug: they were all there yesterday and now it's just week 8's

[Macie Lightfoot]

LOL Jason won "HOH" this show has had an awful end game

[Jack_]

Okay I'm all caught up so yaaaass at Jason winning HoH, it's remarkable that three of the LNJ are still here considering how bored I became of the BS getting so much **** from America, they're not that ****ing great :rolleyes:

Why on earth are they having a final three? And more to the point, why are they changing the rules of what's usually the best part of the end game - the F4? The viewers are already picking the winner, your social game should get you to the end not some competition, clearly production's obsession with them has carried over onto this season :sleep:

Anyway hopefully Morgan goes so then I'll be happy with the winner either way, cause she'd probably win if not. Without looking at favourite polls or anything yet though my money would be on Justin to take this whole thing

[LukeB]

Okay I'm all caught up so yaaaass at Jason winning HoH, it's remarkable that three of the LNJ are still here considering how bored I became of the BS getting so much **** from America, they're not that ****ing great :rolleyes:

Why on earth are they having a final three? And more to the point, why are they changing the rules of what's usually the best part of the end game - the F4? The viewers are already picking the winner, your social game should get you to the end not some competition, clearly production's obsession with them has carried over onto this season :sleep:

Anyway hopefully Morgan goes so then I'll be happy with the winner either way, cause she'd probably win if not. Without looking at favourite polls or anything yet though my money would be on Justin to take this whole thing

The finale would be better with both BS and LNJ :umm2: it would be boring without a divided house. And didnt you give Paulie slack for his treatment towards girls when Jason did exactly the same thing, calling females *****s,slags,sluts and prostitue is degrading a woman and not forgetting him disgustingly wiping his boggies and armpits on peoples stuff.

[LukeB]

Pull through Morgan! Anything to not let another returnee win :snooze:

[Jack_]

The finale would be better with both BS and LNJ :umm2: it would be boring without a divided house. And didnt you give Paulie slack for his treatment towards girls when Jason did exactly the same thing, calling females *****s,slags,sluts and prostitue is degrading a woman and not forgetting him disgustingly wiping his boggies and armpits on peoples stuff.

Um...the only thing that's happening at the final three is America voting, so why is it necessary for there still to be a divided house? I don't care for Morgan whereas I've liked the others all season so of course I'm gonna want to ensure one of them win :conf: if you've actually been reading my posts you'd see that I was enjoying the house divide, all I remarked on was how tiresome it became having the BS win nearly every vote from America

And also in case you haven't noticed I haven't been watching feeds and have only caught up on the episodes in the last week, so clearly none of this made the edit. I did actually post asking how accurate the edits were but no one responded, so maybe you should have? I would suggest you quit while you're ahead though because you're not really the best placed person to be asking me such a question considering you worshipped the ground Paulie walked on...I can just as easily flip that around and ask why it was okay for him to act like a **** and not Jason? You didn't really think that one through

[Macie Lightfoot]

The Ball Smashers haven't even really benefitted from America's voting much? lmfao Morgan was nominated over ****ing Kryssie

[Jack_]

They've literally won like nearly every CP though

[LukeB]

Um...the only thing that's happening at the final three is America voting, so why is it necessary for there still to be a divided house? I don't care for Morgan whereas I've liked the others all season so of course I'm gonna want to ensure one of them win :conf: if you've actually been reading my posts you'd see that I was enjoying the house divide, all I remarked on was how tiresome it became having the BS win nearly every vote from America

And also in case you haven't noticed I haven't been watching feeds and have only caught up on the episodes in the last week, so clearly none of this made the edit. I did actually post asking how accurate the edits were but no one responded, so maybe you should have? I would suggest you quit while you're ahead though because you're not really the best placed person to be asking me such a question considering you worshipped the ground Paulie walked on...I can just as easily flip that around and ask why it was okay for him to act like a **** and not Jason? You didn't really think that one through

because a divided finale is better with or without hoh/veto because it's still bs vs misfits. they have won just amount of things, most of the AN have been ballsmashers. BS didnt get everything or most of it. Actually Jason's **** talking shelby calling her degrading name did make the edit :spin: it's when he was whining about not getting his own way, i only just say that because you were like how can 'Paulie have fans etc :umm2:' so now that jason has basically did the same thing it's a different story? I dont hate Jason because of that, he's arrogant,ungrateful and whiney.

[LukeB]

Jason is basically Nicole 2.0 but worse

[Raph]

Luke check out my BB7 thread!

Also pull through Morgan! I would be so happy to see Justin go this week, i've wanted this since day 1, absolutely useless player -.-

[Macie Lightfoot]

Justin said last night that he's gonna win and Jason hasn't stopped bitching about him ever since. I guess he needed a new target now that Shelby's gone :shrug:

[BBfanUSA]

HGs aren't getting any visitors today but they did get letters from home and recipes from family and former HGs

[reece(:]

Serve that recipe Neeley

[starry]

Jason is basically Nicole 2.0 but worse

I think he's Ben 2.0 (from BBAU9) another bitchy camp guy who talked crap but won over a great HM (in that case Estelle).

And Jason's worst never made the HLs or updates, it was remarkably censored for something online. They even started blurring mouths and cutting sound for simple swear words by the end.

At least Shelby went out with a bang, her dismissal of Jason as she left was amazing.

She also passed her law exam and will see how much support she has outside too.

[Raph]

Jason has played an excellent game tbh :clap1:

Jason or Morgan are the only worthy winners in terms of game play. I cannot wait for Justin to leave I wanted this since day 1!

[LukeB]

Jason has played an excellent game tbh :clap1:

Jason or Morgan are the only worthy winners in terms of game play. I cannot wait for Justin to leave I wanted this since day 1!

But he hasn't though, being trash is the only thing he does. He sucks at this game and had help from america getting his targets out. He wouldn't be where he is without america.

Justin played it better than Jason.

[Jack_]

because a divided finale is better with or without hoh/veto because it's still bs vs misfits. they have won just amount of things, most of the AN have been ballsmashers. BS didnt get everything or most of it. Actually Jason's **** talking shelby calling her degrading name did make the edit :spin: it's when he was whining about not getting his own way, i only just say that because you were like how can 'Paulie have fans etc :umm2:' so now that jason has basically did the same thing it's a different story? I dont hate Jason because of that, he's arrogant,ungrateful and whiney.

Maybe to you because you want Morgan to win and let's be honest she would, but not to me because I don't want her to? :shrug: a divided finale might be more appealing if there were a jury but since it's the viewers it's quite possible to predict who will win so no thanks. Well I'd say I stand corrected but from those few scenes of him dragging her that have been shown...is that really it? Because her trading insults back more than made up for it, I didn't think much of it to be quite honest, I thought it was a mildly amusing rivalry...they both seemed to give as much as they got.

Can you show me where I said that? I didn't recall it so had a search and the closest I could find was me saying 'I struggle to see how he has fans' which isn't exactly the same statement. Anyway, I didn't like Paulie primarily because of the way he tried to intimidate first Tiffany, then Natalie, and then Day...has Jason tried to do that (I'm genuinely curious, and ignorant to what's gone on)? Because if he hasn't and it's just some catty bitching or petty behaviour then eh...this is Big Brother US, it's kind of par for the course.

You can't hate Jason because of that lol or else you would've hated Paulie for being arrogant and Cody (****ing Cody of all people!) for being one of the whiniest houseguests of the last few seasons :laugh: you didn't like him before so you were intent on not liking him again

Anyway, I still stand by saying that you're not really best placed to be the one criticising me for liking Jason but not Paulie, when what you've criticised the former for is more than present in the latter.

[Jack_]

Being 'trash' doesn't negate someone from being a good player, Scumanda was vile but she controlled the majority of the season and I regularly but reluctantly gave her credit for it.

Jason should've been out within the first two weeks, it is testament to his social game that he's managed to make the final three. I also think it's a bit futile to talk about people having an advantage from America within the context of this season since you could make a case for just about any of them having had that, unfortunately that's what the season has been based upon.

For what it's worth I think Justin's had the strongest social game.

[LukeB]

Maybe to you because you want Morgan to win and let's be honest she would, but not to me because I don't want her to? :shrug: a divided finale might be more appealing if there were a jury but since it's the viewers it's quite possible to predict who will win so no thanks. Well I'd say I stand corrected but from those few scenes of him dragging her that have been shown...is that really it? Because her trading insults back more than made up for it, I didn't think much of it to be quite honest, I thought it was a mildly amusing rivalry...they both seemed to give as much as they got.

Can you show me where I said that? I didn't recall it so had a search and the closest I could find was me saying 'I struggle to see how he has fans' which isn't exactly the same statement. Anyway, I didn't like Paulie primarily because of the way he tried to intimidate first Tiffany, then Natalie, and then Day...has Jason tried to do that (I'm genuinely curious, and ignorant to what's gone on)? Because if he hasn't and it's just some catty bitching or petty behaviour then eh...this is Big Brother US, it's kind of par for the course.

You can't hate Jason because of that lol or else you would've hated Paulie for being arrogant and Cody (****ing Cody of all people!) for being one of the whiniest houseguests of the last few seasons :laugh: you didn't like him before so you were intent on not liking him again

Anyway, I still stand by saying that you're not really best placed to be the one criticising me for liking Jason but not Paulie, when what you've criticised the former for is more than present in the latter.

Everyone knows trash bag Jason is going to win lol he had a fan base from the normal big brother (which he flopped :hehe:) so thats an advantage and a typical boring obvious winner. But i hope people give votes towards Justin because they don't want a nicole 2.0 winner which is infact Jason, returnee,bitchy and whines so much.

It was in the live feed thread it was something like i don't know how anyone can like paulie etc or something similar. Shelby was treated horribly by Jason.

I can and i will, he did it in a horrible and ungrateful way, whines and plays victim. America gave him hoh and put his target on the block and he still whines about not getting his way because he pulled alex's chip for veto. Then he says he hasn't **** talked anyone but the way he treated shelby says different. And i did kind of like him and forgot about his fat shaming and something about checking if Audrey had a willie(something like that, macie has the facts about that) but he has been acting like trash so i hated him again.

Then you don't have the right to say anything about people liking Paulie when Jason is just as bad. If not worse, I rather support Paulie than transphobic worms.

http://i.imgur.com/uXVhBY4.jpg

[Macie Lightfoot]

Anyway, I didn't like Paulie primarily because of the way he tried to intimidate first Tiffany, then Natalie, and then Day...has Jason tried to do that (I'm genuinely curious, and ignorant to what's gone on)? Because if he hasn't and it's just some catty bitching or petty behaviour then eh...this is Big Brother US, it's kind of par for the course.

Yes catty bitching and petty behavior is par of the course, but like... spending every minute you're awake going on these awfully personal tirades about how Shelby's a slut and a prostitute who blew every producer and editor, given out handjobs to get people to vote for her, talking about burning her house down and burning the Bungalow (yes it's just the Bungalow but Jason literally used the word arson), talking mad **** about her family and her mother, whining about how she's not an underdog but an anorexic gold digger as if those are opposites, talking about how she has herpes and how many guys have been in her vagina and how he'll wring her neck... all for no reason because Shelby didn't do anything to him? If he just talked **** about her occasionally it'd be one thing, but it was seriously nonstop and with so much vitriol it was alarming. And then once Shelby was evicted and Jason didn't have anyone to ostracize, he decided to talk **** about Justin for like six hours straight (I wish I was exaggerating) because Justin made some small comment about how he's gonna win.

And for Jason wanting to say that Shelby is the reason why people slut shame, hun you're the one giving gays a bad name.........x

[Jack_]

Everyone knows trash bag Jason is going to win lol he had a fan base from the normal big brother (which he flopped :hehe:) so thats an advantage and a typical boring obvious winner. But i hope people give votes towards Justin because they don't want a nicole 2.0 winner which is infact Jason, returnee,bitchy and whines so much.

It was in the live feed thread it was something like i don't know how anyone can like paulie etc or something similar. Shelby was treated horribly by Jason.

I can and i will, he did it in a horrible and ungrateful way, whines and plays victim. America gave him hoh and put his target on the block and he still whines about not getting his way because he pulled alex's chip for veto. Then he says he hasn't **** talked anyone but the way he treated shelby says different. And i did kind of like him and forgot about his fat shaming and something about checking if Audrey had a willie(something like that, macie has the facts about that) but he has been acting like trash so i hated him again.

Then you don't have the right to say anything about people liking Paulie when Jason is just as bad. If not worse, I rather support Paulie than transphobic worms.

The poll I looked at put Morgan and Jason neck and neck actually, and most of the CP votes when to her side of the house so I don't think it's that clear cut to be honest. The fact he had an advantage and existing fanbase coming into the game is the precise reason why he should've been target #1 for the entire season. Again, it is testament to his social game that he's managed to last this long.

I remember you being pleased that Nicole won and you liked her in the end so I don't know why you're pretending any different now :joker: Jason is way better than her and it's not even funny. Let me rephrase the statement because I didn't mean it the way you took it. 'You don't hate Jason because of that' is what I meant.

The fact you're complaining about Jason whining and claiming that as the reason you dislike him just baffles me when Cody spent the entirety of BB16 doing the same and you worshipped him...like...again, that doesn't make any sense? I'm sure you'll say 'so why do you like Jason and not Cody' so the simple answer to save you the time is because Cody's a useless, idiotic dullard to boot and Jason's actually funny.

LOL Jason is not worse than Paulie, if you can find me a clip of him intimidating a woman in the way Paulie did with Tiff, Natalie and Day then maybe I'll agree but I'm yet to hear any evidence of this, so. The bottom line of all of this is if I'm a hypocrite then so are you, it seems pretty stupid to throw an accusation at me which can just as easily be flipped around on to you but hey :shrug:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Third party intervention: Yes, you're both hypocrites because Jason and Paulie are both ****ing awful. If not hypocrites, you both at least need to refine your tastes......xx

[Jack_]

Yes catty bitching and petty behavior is par of the course, but like... spending every minute you're awake going on these awfully personal tirades about how Shelby's a slut and a prostitute who blew every producer and editor, given out handjobs to get people to vote for her, talking about burning her house down and burning the Bungalow (yes it's just the Bungalow but Jason literally used the word arson), talking mad **** about her family and her mother, whining about how she's not an underdog but an anorexic gold digger as if those are opposites, talking about how she has herpes and how many guys have been in her vagina and how he'll wring her neck... all for no reason because Shelby didn't do anything to him? If he just talked **** about her occasionally it'd be one thing, but it was seriously nonstop and with so much vitriol it was alarming. And then once Shelby was evicted and Jason didn't have anyone to ostracize, he decided to talk **** about Justin for like six hours straight (I wish I was exaggerating) because Justin made some small comment about how he's gonna win.

And for Jason wanting to say that Shelby is the reason why people slut shame, hun you're the one giving gays a bad name.........x

Well I don't condone any of that obviously but I've still supported people who've done a lot worse :laugh: like, someone has to actually go out of their way to try and intimidate or bully someone for me to particularly dislike them (see: Paulie, Amanda, Aaryn), as unnecessarily vitriolic as this sounds it's not really something I'm personally bothered by, regardless of who it is. But then I've not watched the feeds so perhaps he has done all of this idk

And to me, at least from the episodes perspective, it seemed that Shelby was just as insulting about Jason and didn't seem to be bothered about the whole thing? If two people can be on equal footing in a rivalry and give as good as they get I don't really have a problem with it

[LukeB]

The poll I looked at put Morgan and Jason neck and neck actually, and most of the CP votes when to her side of the house so I don't think it's that clear cut to be honest. The fact he had an advantage and existing fanbase coming into the game is the precise reason why he should've been target #1 for the entire season. Again, it is testament to his social game that he's managed to last this long.

I remember you being pleased that Nicole won and you liked her in the end so I don't know why you're pretending any different now :joker: Jason is way better than her and it's not even funny. Let me rephrase the statement because I didn't mean it the way you took it. 'You don't hate Jason because of that' is what I meant.

The fact you're complaining about Jason whining and claiming that as the reason you dislike him just baffles me when Cody spent the entirety of BB16 doing the same and you worshipped him...like...again, that doesn't make any sense? I'm sure you'll say 'so why do you like Jason and not Cody' so the simple answer to save you the time is because Cody's a useless, idiotic dullard to boot and Jason's actually funny.

LOL Jason is not worse than Paulie, if you can find me a clip of him intimidating a woman in the way Paulie did with Tiff, Natalie and Day then maybe I'll agree but I'm yet to hear any evidence of this, so. The bottom line of all of this is if I'm a hypocrite then so are you, it seems pretty stupid to throw an accusation at me which can just as easily be flipped around on to you but hey :shrug:

Polls are not accurate, some polls had Kryssie being the america's nom after Scott's eviction but it was Alex and Morgan. Whitney was in the lead for CO-HOH on polls but it went to Jason. Kryssie got CP to give Jason safety, got given Co-ho which is more safety, then his team won hoh but he was never AN like Morgan was, the only one who has a chance against Jason is Justin who deserves it more. Justin playing both sides,getting whitney to flip and having the best social game is something I would award.

I didn't like Nicole on BB18 but I wanted anyone to win but James really. But Nicole was better than Jason and is still a better winner than Jason.

Jason whined the most and it's more exhausting, I'm okay with whining with some extant but there's a limit and Jason went over that. he just sat there with a face like a slapped arse bitching about how Shelby is popular,how he never gets what he wants, more stuff about shelby and loads more.

You can look on reddit/Macie's post of loads of examples of Jason's behaviour. Jason only gets away with it because of obvious reasons.I'm not calling anyone a hypocrite just don't know how Jason doesn't get slack for his behavior (only by few, who don't give LGBT,blacks special treatment)

[starry]

Jason has controlled nothing by his game (can't compare that to Amanda), he just got by on the fact that he had support on the outside and that helped him in the game by twists or by HGs frightened of his support.

[JerseyWins]

Jason literally played the same game as last time from what I've seen (smoke & whine on the backyard couch... but with even more **** talking this time). He just had America and a bunch of twists on his side this time around. Plus to add to that (as said), people are obviously going to be reluctant to target him after they saw what happened to Monte when he tried. :joker:

Oh and this last episode was one of the worst episodes of BB I've ever seen. I gave up on feeds a while ago but the episodes have still been alright IMO until this one. NOTHING happened.

With this finish to the season, it's safe to say (for me at least), BB18 > BBOTT at this point

Justin or Morgan winning could sort of redeem it but even then this is just a season I don't care about.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Can Morgan please win to piss jason off. It's the only way to make this season worthwhile. Its sickening that America will vote for a repulsive twat like jason. But hey they voted trump as president so they clearly have bad taste

[LukeB]

I didn't realise there will be a battle to be in the final instead of veto. Do or Die
Competitor.

NOTHING

[Raph]

#TeamMorgan

[Raph]

Morgan makes the final 3 YESS!! Morgan and Jason would be the best final 2. Been rooting for these two ever since Alex and Whitney left!

[Raph]

I'm glad Justin's lack of gameplay and lack of game knowledge didn't allow him to just slide into the final. Good riddance :D

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Hope Morgan wins now. Kryssie is a delusion cow and Jason is just a vile twat

[Jack_]

Julie Chen hosting a BBUS live show on December 1st, what a novelty

[MB.]

Can't wait to see whether Jason or Jason wins

[Jack_]

SCREAMING I hoped Julie would swear for the fun of it and she did omg

[Jack_]

Morgan's gonna win :( it'll be like Brexit, Nicole and Trump all over again

[LukeB]

Morgan = The angel and the hilary clinton
Jason = the evil and donald trump

http://i.imgur.com/Bu3f4UV.jpg

[Macie Lightfoot]

Morgan's gonna win :( it'll be like Brexit, Nicole and Trump all over again

yes it will be when Jason wins :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

LMFAO MORGANZA :love: xxx

[Jack_]

Told y'all :idc:

[Jack_]

Morgan = The angel and the hilary clinton
Jason = the evil and donald trump

Yeah, er, no

[LukeB]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS Morgan slayed the bastard :worship:

[Jack_]

This is literally like the Nerd Herd winning all over again

[Macie Lightfoot]

sis no... just no... x

[Jack_]

Yes, just yes

[Jack_]

In fact you should be pleased with the comparison

[LukeB]

Queen of making Jason flop again.
http://thumbnails.cbsig.net/CBS_Production_Entertainment_VMS/2016/09/26/773014595972/CBS_BBOTT_Cast_Video_Morgan_HiRes_923831_640x360.j pg

[Jack_]

Kryssie was also robbed </3

[Jack_]

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:joker: </3

[DrunkerThanMoses]

This is literally like the Nerd Herd winning all over again

:joker: Jason was the nerd herd, he lost because he was nothing but trash and spoke about others terribly. If he was not such a bitter little bitch he might have won. Morgan at least treated others correctly. I mean Jason had the game handed to him every week yet still moaned and bitched. Glad he lost, karma finally served.

[Jack_]

lol no, the Ball Smashers were literally The Friendship, pompous and nauseating

Anyway there was another tweet I saw which got me thinking, it is pretty funny that a good proportion of people who voted for Morgan will have been the same people who lambasted 'bitter' juries in the past for voting emotionally for people they liked and not on game (in fact, you're probably one of them). Jason has to take responsibility for his behaviour that contributed to his loss in the same way people like Paul do, but the hypocrisy is real...it's funny how things change when the shoe is actually on the viewer's foot and they do get to vote :laugh:

[LukeB]

:joker: Jason was the nerd herd, he lost because he was nothing but trash and spoke about others terribly. If he was not such a bitter little bitch he might have won. Morgan at least treated others correctly. I mean Jason had the game handed to him every week yet still moaned and bitched. Glad he lost, karma finally served.

:clap1:

Morgan winning and Jason rightly losing is one of my favourite RTV moments :flutter: Jason will go back to being a keyboard warrior and being bitter while Morgan is spending her cash and being classy :clap1:

[LukeB]

I hope Shelby confronts Jason over his comments but he will wimp out and say things over a computer/phone screen because he has no balls.

[Jack_]

On the plus side, at least Alex wins by proxy and she would be deserving so

On a more positive note the live DRs looked hilarious, were they actually good?

[Macie Lightfoot]

In fact you should be pleased with the comparison

There's no way you dished out that comparison in a flattering way, even though pompous and nauseating describes the LNJ to the tee. Just look at Neeley's Twitter or Danielle's Periscopes or Kryssie's delusions or pretty much anything Jason said about Shelby and then Justin.

Morganza's a perfectly fine winner in her own right, but this is A) a victory for Shelby first and foremost, and B) something Alex will be jealous about for the rest of her life, so it's a win-win.

Also, having a female win who doesn't hate other women hasn't happened since... Maggie? and even though a vet made the final like they do every single time they mix newbies and vets (except for BB11), the vet didn't win. Justice for Porsche :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

http://image.prntscr.com/image/63b8dc5a89af4097841029f9942fbda6.png

[LukeB]

Morgan being the first one to beat a vet :love:

[Calderyon]

Jason lost? Hmm... maybe this season deserves a shot after all.

[AarynGriesfan]

If only the bbot audience were the only people voting in the election then our country would be in a lot better shape.

[Macie Lightfoot]

How would you describe your relationship with Jason? I think he respects you as a game player, but he's made a lot of disparaging remarks about you.

Shelby: Everyone seems to want us to be friends after this, but he's talked about forcing his d--- into my mouth. He's talked about burning down my family's house, harassing my mom so bad that she'll need a restraining order. That just goes way beyond the game. So my relationship with him is hopefully over. I really want nothing to do with Jason. ... I don't want anything to do with Jason. If he wins, I hope he spends his money on therapy -- lots and lots of therapy -- and maybe some cigarettes, and hopefully he never tries to get in contact with me because I don't have time for him.

...x

[Jack_]

There's no way you dished out that comparison in a flattering way, even though pompous and nauseating describes the LNJ to the tee. Just look at Neeley's Twitter or Danielle's Periscopes or Kryssie's delusions or pretty much anything Jason said about Shelby and then Justin.

Morganza's a perfectly fine winner in her own right, but this is A) a victory for Shelby first and foremost, and B) something Alex will be jealous about for the rest of her life, so it's a win-win.

Also, having a female win who doesn't hate other women hasn't happened since... Maggie? and even though a vet made the final like they do every single time they mix newbies and vets (except for BB11), the vet didn't win. Justice for Porsche :love:

Of course I didn't cause I didn't like the Nerd Herd, I meant that since you liked them (and that isn't a dig), the comparison shouldn't be one you are averse to. Surely it's a good thing that they both won? :laugh:

Anyway I accept Jason's loss is a result of his behaviour and he needs to take responsibility for that, but I stand by my point that it's a very strange turn of events when some people who lambast 'bitter' juries are now guilty of, in effect, voting for a winner on the same basis that they criticise certain jurors for. The Hypocrisy Is Real and all that

[Macie Lightfoot]

Gotcha, I just assumed it was a dig like every ****ing Nerd Herd comment lobbed towards me is because for whatever reason, people can ironically appreciate just about anyone else except for the group of people whose worst crime is like... rallying around Cappy when he tried to ration the house's ice cream or something.

As for that second part, I'm very much in the "there's no such thing as a bitter jury, and even if there was there's nothing wrong with that, so shut the **** up" camp so I'll continue to cherish Morganza's win :love:

I'm very sad I don't have an edgic chart to share bc I didn't really watch this season in full but maybe I will over the summer or something.

[JerseyWins]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeees @ Morgan winning. :clap1:

Anyone know where I can watch the finale? (And there was still a Wednesday episode too right despite the random Thursday night finale? I honestly don't even know... I thought the finale was supposed to be Wednesday until I saw no one was talking about it :joker:).

If there's one thing I can comfortably say about this season it's that at least it finished off with a good winner. :clap1:

[AarynGriesfan]

I kinda regret not watching the season now. But I am really enjoying the twitter meltdown right now.

[Wojtek]

Talent won :clap1: And now I can pretend that Alex is the second winner :love:

[Lostie!]

...x

I still haven't seen beyond the first week but ermm, what a piece of scum :umm2:

[DouglasS]

This is literally like the Nerd Herd winning all over again

Except clearly not because America and feed viewers sided with the Plastics... It would however have been like the nerd herd winning had Jason won [He very much had a sense of entiltlement and really did remind me of them now you mention them, and so your comparison is really bizarre to be honest with you].

I'm assuming you were not a feeds viewer by your views.

[LukeB]

I still haven't seen beyond the first week but ermm, what a piece of scum :umm2:

Theres loads more, i will post a picture soon,He went overboard with his comments.

[AarynGriesfan]

If Paulie supporters think what Jason said was bad then you know it's really bad! :joker:

[JerseyWins]

If Paulie supporters think what Jason said was bad then you know it's really bad! :joker:
http://cdn.bigbigbrother.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Big-Brother-2013-Spoilers-Aaryn-300x227.png

[JerseyWins]

Also, where do people outside of the US watch the episodes?

[LukeB]

Also, where do people outside of the US watch the episodes?

http://www.bmx-tv.net/

replays

[JerseyWins]

Thank you :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Well, that finale kinda made the season look better than it was. The little recap in the beginning in particular showed plenty of drama for this season and it wasn't stretched out too long like some recaps in regular season finales of BB.

Also is there an actual episode for when Justin got evicted? I don't see it on there but oh well, I won't bother watching it anyway (again if there even is one; I didn't see anyone talking about BB on Wednesday, unless it's just that no one cares :joker:).

Bring on BBCAN. :fan:

[Macie Lightfoot]

http://i.imgur.com/dInkYd4.gif

alol it's amazing how all Jason had to do is not **** things up and he somehow did :love: good job everyone

[Raph]

Talent won :clap1: And now I can pretend that Alex is the second winner :love:

This 100%. If Jason was alligned with Alex instead of the LNJ I would've voted for him to win instead of Morgan as he played a great game and has such a love for the game, I just didn't want the LNJ crew to be smug :laugh:

Well done Morgan, a true sweetheart :love:

[LukeB]

Shelby's reaction was amazing :love:

BBOTT hasn't been a good season at all but Morgan beating a sad pathetic scum made up for it.

[Raph]

There's no way you dished out that comparison in a flattering way, even though pompous and nauseating describes the LNJ to the tee. Just look at Neeley's Twitter or Danielle's Periscopes or Kryssie's delusions or pretty much anything Jason said about Shelby and then Justin.

Morganza's a perfectly fine winner in her own right

Also, having a female win who doesn't hate other women hasn't happened since... Maggie? and even though a vet made the final like they do every single time they mix newbies and vets (except for BB11), the vet didn't win. Justice for Porsche :love:

Yess, so glad a girl beat a boy who wasn't Nicole anti-women Franzel. Morgan is a very deserving winner and one of the best where BBUSA is concerned!

[Raph]

Shelby's reaction was amazing :love:

BBOTT hasn't been a good season at all but Morgan beating a sad pathetic scum made up for it.

So happy for Morgan and the Willett sisters :lovedup:

[LukeB]

So happy for Morgan and the Willett sisters :lovedup:

I wasn't very keen on Morgan at first but she won me over :laugh: she won comps when she needed to, only had safety once and got to the final when odds were against her. 5-2. A ballsmasher vs Misfit was a good ending, it started that way so may as well end that way but the right one won and only deserving one won.

[AarynGriesfan]

I kinda wanna watch this season now since the ending sounded so good. I was just expecting it to be a rigged season for Jason so I didn't watch. Maybe it was that and Jason just lost anyways. But I also think I would like the ballsmashers a lot especially Shelby she seems like the type of girl that I would stan!

[starry]

Shelby is the star even just watching the episodes and updates and picking up what I can elsewhere.

Jason is not shown at his very worst in those same programs, the producers protected him, though I read up on what he said on the feed to fill out my understanding. Never liked him anyway.

Morgan is very personable, actually prefer her to Alex in a way as she is more expressive and has a voice that isn't annoyingly high pitched.

Some people obviously like those who talk tactics all the time, but that's not Big Brother to me, certainly not in how it was originally intended. I want to see more of the person.

Justin just seemed to float along and play to the cameras rather boringly. About as funny as James, in other words not at all.

Scott and Danielle added to the show at times, Danielle was better I guess when her showmance left the house. Scott was the standard geek.

Whitney was kind of a limited not so intelligent woman.

Kryssie was a kind of misfit character who got dragged along which is ok, but the idolisation from her and Danielle of Jason was quite ridiculous and annoying.

[starry]

lol no, the Ball Smashers were literally The Friendship, pompous and nauseating

Anyway there was another tweet I saw which got me thinking, it is pretty funny that a good proportion of people who voted for Morgan will have been the same people who lambasted 'bitter' juries in the past for voting emotionally for people they liked and not on game (in fact, you're probably one of them). Jason has to take responsibility for his behaviour that contributed to his loss in the same way people like Paul do, but the hypocrisy is real...it's funny how things change when the shoe is actually on the viewer's foot and they do get to vote :laugh:

There's a huge difference with Juries (which I never liked that much) and that is that they often see much less than the viewers of the live feed, or that that follow written updates on forums even. Never liked Juries that much, the producers never exploited it by showing them much anyway, they just hung around to do **** all. The only main purpose was if they brought one back later in a season.

[Macie Lightfoot]

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[AarynGriesfan]

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He's still getting owned by Morgan I love it!

[Macie Lightfoot]

If she wasn't nominated by America, she would've had a 2% chance of winning the veto. 12.5% chance of being picked (1/8) multiplied by the 16.66% (1/6) chance that she would've won that specific veto.

Now her odds have actually increased to a 33% win rate given that Morgan will 100% use the veto on Alex. Should Shelby use it, the percentage would increase to 50%.

Either way 33% versus 2% seems like pretty good odds to me! #TeamAlex #TeamSuperfans

okay so I SWEAR I'm not trying to beat a dead horse or start an argument when Raph when he's not here to defend himself, but I'm actually rewatching OTT and am in the DE week so I was reading this thread and this........ is not very good math lol :love: Like I just cackled to myself for a good minute or two so thank you for that.

[EspeonBB]

I'm trying to watch this because of all the people saying it was good but I can't find episode links anywhere? The only ones I managed to find was the very first episode when everyone goes in the house and a pointless 6 minute recap of it. Seems like all the episodes were deleted

Any help appreciated

[Dominic]

lol no, the Ball Smashers were literally The Friendship, pompous and nauseating

The same thing could be said about the sovs x

[Jack_]

The same thing could be said about the sovs x

The difference is the Sovs only had 1/2 boring members out of 6, the BS had 2 out of 4 xx

[Jason.]

The difference is the Sovs only had 1/2 boring members out of 6, the BS had 2 out of 4 xx

Kaysar before he got evicted and Kaysar after he returned?

[reece(:]

The difference is the Sovs only had 1/2 boring members out of 6, the BS had 2 out of 4 xx

James and Howie?

[Jack_]

Kaysar before he got evicted and Kaysar after he returned?

https://i.giphy.com/media/c6pcNNrrjZ6w0/giphy.gif

You horrible horrible girl

[Jack_]

James and Howie?

http://68.media.tumblr.com/7d1695592ff70b7437a60ba538b148c9/tumblr_nll4eoDjfV1qave47o6_250.gif

[EspeonBB]

k I managed to find all the weekly episodes apart from the very first one, does anything interesting happen in that or can I just skip it?

[Macie Lightfoot]

The first weekly episode is a hot mess in terms of editing and telling a story but I'll send you a link if I find it xx

[EspeonBB]

Starting the first ep now!

[EspeonBB]

Ok the first ep was a mess. How the hell did Cornbread suddenly go home when it looked like it was Kryssie :skull: I don't really have much of an opinion on Cornbread but I liked Kryssie so I'm glad she stayed

The 2nd ep was much better, full of drama and a fun house divide and after BB19 it's refreshing to see an even divide with people playing the game on both sides, although it's annoying America has so much influence when there's one popular vet in the season full of newbies.

That being said I'm really glad Monte left, I don't think he's racist but he does come across as ignorant and his power trip was getting annoying (the girls not putting up with it :love:), plus he exaggerated the hell out of the Justin shower incident. Jason is bad too, I kinda liked him in the first ep but he was a complete dick to Shelby for little reason, and I know it only gets worse

Also my fave moment so far:
*Jeff walks into the house, Shelby opens the door*
Jeff: Hey guys what's up
Shelby: ...
Jeff: I'm Jeff
Shelby: Oh yeah I didn't watch your season
Shelby (in DR): I had know idea who he was
:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't remember if it made the weekly recap or not but spoiler Jeff is not the only former HG who hosts a comp that Shelby doesn't recognize :love:

[EspeonBB]

Ep3 was good, the boot order for this season has been really good. I am really glad Shane went home, he was boring af and was a dick during the eviction so bye, plus I feel like he's holding Danielle back. I'm not sure how I feel about Scott but I love the ire he inspires in Kryssie, "I HOPE YOU STAY A VIRGIN FOREVER" is definitely a season highlight so far.

Ugh I'm watching Ep4 now and Paul is hosting a comp kill me now

[LukeB]

who are your favourites?

http://i.imgur.com/fMcvsAj.jpg

[EspeonBB]

who are your favourites?

I like Danielle, Neeley, Shelby, Justin, Alex and Kryssie (for the mess). Although the only houseguest I dislike atm is Jason

[LukeB]

I like Danielle, Neeley, Shelby, Justin, Alex and Kryssie (for the mess). Although the only houseguest I dislike atm is Jason

The Jason hate :clap1:

i'm not just saying this because i like Paulie but I honestly think Jason is worse than Paulie, Jason's comments were more nasty and all the time like all Jason did is call Shelby this and that and all those other comments (about setting house on fire and something about putting his cum on her)

I'm quite surprised you like Alex as well for some reason :laugh:

Alex is my favourite
But i did love Whitney,Morgan and Shelby. (Monte as well, well kind of)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Scottgod :love: Morganza, although she doesn't really start to break out until next week's episode a little bit :love:

[EspeonBB]

lmao I just watched Ep4 and it was great, definitely the best episode of the season so far. I have no idea why Neeley was nominated and evicted by America over Jason or even Shelby but I'm actually OK with her being evicted even though I liked her since Scott is bringing the dramz even though I don't like him as a person at all (going after Danielle to win America over is both hilarious and awful at the same time)

Kryssie is such a delusional mess and I'm kinda here for it. Her pathetic performance in the veto was hilarious, especially when she started complaining her hands were bleeding when there wasn't a drop of blood :joker: And then the wrong buzzer sounding after :joker:

Jason remains awful, like that entire tirade against Shelby calling her a prostitute and a gold digger because one of America's votes went against him was so unnecessary and I can definitely see why America turned against him and his alliance, thank god he loses at the end <3 Speaking of Morgan was really likeable this week

[JerseyWins]

Justin & Shelby were gold. :love:

Randomly just found this:

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I'm not going to watch it (4 fking hours long :skull:) but based on a minute of it, I'm sure it'd be worth the watch. :joker:

[EspeonBB]

Just finished watching Episode 7 + the double eviction and wow what a rollercoaster, definitely one of the most entertaining BB weeks ever (with one sucky boot and one great one) :love: Before this ep I wasn't really a fan of one alliance over the other but I'm fully a Ballsmashers stan now

It was so frustrating to see Jason take over Shelby's HOH (her slaying the face morph comp :love:) and although I can appreciate Jason is pretty good gameplayer he's such an unlikeable dick and it's fitting that he lost the season based on America's votes, like the whole fake final 5 thing felt unnecessarily mean and was done for nothing more than to kick the Ballsmashers while they were down (and I also read he wiped his snot on the BSers personal stuff ew). I was sad to see Alex go, although I do prefer Morgan and Shelby to her

The DE was glorious though, seeing the LNJ fumes after Morgan won the CP were so satisfying. I don't really have any feelings on Whitney she seemed sweet but was irrelevant until she flipped. So good to see an exciting DE after BB19

[Macie Lightfoot]

omg the entire LNJ choking on their own tears after Morgan won the Care Package was a highlight of my LIFE :love::love::love:

[EspeonBB]

Morgan's eviction speech too :love: I'm mad no one has uploaded it on YT

[LukeB]

Morgan does give great speeches :love:

I adore her.

[Braden]

I didn't watch OTT at all, but all I hear is appreciation—are the episodes worth watching? Or is it something that would've benefitted from having live feed alongside it?

[LukeB]

I didn't watch OTT at all, but all I hear is appreciation—are the episodes worth watching? Or is it something that would've benefitted from having live feed alongside it?

Well you can watch TIBB: OTT imo

[Braden]

Well you can watch TIBB: OTT imo

I shall give it a gander, I've been meaning to follow it but have been really busy lately <\3

[EspeonBB]

I didn't watch OTT at all, but all I hear is appreciation—are the episodes worth watching? Or is it something that would've benefitted from having live feed alongside it?

I'm currently watching only the episodes and I'm really enjoying it, although I think it's useful to look through live feeds moments bc they leave some important stuff out (kinda like BB19)

[Macie Lightfoot]

I-Y2183JD9o

the dig at Whitney over the celebratory dinner comment will never not make me scream

[Braden]

I'm currently watching only the episodes and I'm really enjoying it, although I think it's useful to look through live feeds moments bc they leave some important stuff out (kinda like BB19)

I think I might give it a watch soon. Thanks :love:

[JerseyWins]

I didn't watch OTT at all, but all I hear is appreciation—are the episodes worth watching? Or is it something that would've benefitted from having live feed alongside it?
Nah I think it's probably better without the feeds actually. It was a pretty boring season but I could see it being good when only watching the weekly episodes. It's a lot more eventful that way, even almost by default of there being a lot to cover once a week.

[Dominic]

"If someone tells me I'm too pretty to be a lawyer, I tell them they're too dumb to be a person" lmfaooo :love:

[Dominic]

did I find the wrong eps or are they all 6 mins long

[EspeonBB]

Finally finished this!

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:love::love::love:

It's a good season! Great to see more than one person actually playing the game (:eyes: BB19) and the house divide was really reminiscent of BB6 :love: I was definitely Team Ballsmashers but I didn't appreciate some members of the LNJ too. Also Morgan beating Jason (despite Jason having a pre-existing fanbase in a season largely decided by America's votes) has to be the most righteous result in BBUS history, so glad that basement creature wasn't rewarded for his vile behaviour this season

My only criticism would be some of the episodes edits were a mess and I did feel as if America had too much influence, things like Alex leaving on Shelby's HOH and Neeley leaving on Kryssie's HOH shouldn't really happen, plus most of the votes went Jason's way which ew

Cast ranking
1. Shelby
2. Morgan
3. Justin
4. Alex
5. Kryssie
6. Neeley
7. Whitney
8. Scott
9. Cornbread
10. Danielle
11. Shane
12. Monte
13. Jason

I'm a bit unsure of how 5-8 would rank but I'm pretty sure of my top 4 and bottom 3

[LukeB]

Ballsmasher fan :clap1:

welcome to the club

A girls alliance that actually worked

[Jack_]

Eh I get why Jason lost but I still think it's laughable that people in the BBUS community who spend their lives complaining about bitter juries and people voting emotionally only then went and did so when they were given a vote

[Wizard.]

Eh I get why Jason lost but I still think it's laughable that people in the BBUS community who spend their lives complaining about bitter juries and people voting emotionally only then went and did so when they were given a vote

This is some tea!

[LukeB]

Morgan played better than Jason

part of the format is american voting so acting VILE is a bad game move,

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think the whole idea of a bitter jury is kinda stupid because ultimately you're always going to vote for someone you like, or at least respect, to get half a million dollars. Like, if you handpicked the jury and they're bitter at you, that's more indicative if your gameplay than their feelings.

And I don't even know how one can assess gameplay on a season like OTT bc there isn't even a discernible game to be played with America interfering like every third day. I'm sure Morgan fans can spin a good case as to how she played a better game and the Jason fans can as well. ****, even HypoKryssie spun a good case for herself in her final speech.

[Headie]

To this day I still don't really know whether I was team LNJ or team Ballsmashers. I liked some from both sides and disliked some from both sides tbh. Danielle was probably my overall favourite, and I was gutted to lose Neeley over someone like Scott, but as a whole Danielle/Shane/Neeley/Morgan/Shelby were probably my faves? Morgan was FAR better than her sister as well

[Jack_]

Morgan played better than Jason

part of the format is american voting so acting VILE is a bad game move,

She really didn't, she was a massive who and I could make a case for almost all of the F9 (and certainly the F5) to win over her. There's a lot of luck involved in Big Brother and she's one of the biggest recipients of it in recent history.

Of course it is, I'm not denying that - my point is that those who have in the past derided 'bitter' juries for their favourites losing/jurors voting emotionally (even so recent as three months earlier in BB18!) - were then guilty of doing exactly the same thing. People can pretend that Morgan won by her own volition all they like but the reality is it's 80% her opponent who won her the game through his own behaviour. Great/kudos/you take what you can get/slay/you win the $250k/whatever, but my point still stands. The hyprocisy from these same people who lambasted bitter/emotional jurors was real.

I think the whole idea of a bitter jury is kinda stupid because ultimately you're always going to vote for someone you like, or at least respect, to get half a million dollars. Like, if you handpicked the jury and they're bitter at you, that's more indicative if your gameplay than their feelings.

I agree with all of this but that's basically my point, people who would usually blame the jury for their favourite's loss and deride a juror for voting personally and not on who played the best, were then guilty of doing the exact same thing. Of course it's Jason's fault he didn't endear himself to America, but to spend your life saying 'jurors should vote on game' and then not is...well...just complete hypocrisy? And I vividly remember in the week leading up to the finale many people across many different sites saying something along the lines of 'Jason may have played the best but I can't vote for him' or 'I don't think Morgan really turned up until now but Jason can't win so', and all that's just been airbrushed out of history because she ended up winning. Like, these people needed to practice what they preach or admit they talked ****e.

[EspeonBB]

They really need Shelby and Alex back for a regular season (I'd throw Danielle in there too even though I wasn't a huge fan)

[Headie]

They really need Shelby and Alex back for a regular season (I'd throw Danielle in there too even though I wasn't a huge fan)

The edit really favoured Alex but I remember hating her on the feeds, icr why but she was hella annoying to me :laugh:

Alex and Danielle were the HBIC's of their alliances though

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm not even disagreeing with you really but in the same regard half of Jason's votes were from alumni who didn't even properly watch or even follow OTT and people who supported his Bitchy Gay persona rather than anything to do with gameplay so it goes both ways.

[EspeonBB]

The edit really favoured Alex but I remember hating her on the feeds, icr why but she was hella annoying to me :laugh:

Alex and Danielle were the HBIC's of their alliances though

I like Alex but she was a bit of gamebot so I can see why she would grate on the feeds, plus as you said it was great to actually have HBICs rather than the terrible female cast full of followers on BB19

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alex works a lot better for me once I realize that she'll forever be jealous of her Dumb Recruit Bikini Girl Sister for actually winning a season of Big Brother :love: