J 6OODYY Number Plate - More Hatred!!!

[nodisharmony]

Sadly, the Hate for Jade Goody continues on.

It is typical how people seem to laugh at stories which I am about to tell. But this is the facts regarding Jade Goody's situtation.

HER SITUATION IS REAL AND UNJUST BEYOND BELIEF.

Try to put things in perspective!

Compare Jade Goody to someone who mugs an old lady or burgled your house.

THEY WOULD GET A BETTER DEAL.

Anyway, here is this very SAD story!!!
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GOODY RIDDANCE (Daily Star)
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DESPERATE driver Jay goodfield wants to get rid of his registration plate - because everyone thinks he is loudmouth Jade Goody

Since he bought the J6 OODY plate for £250 three years ago, Jade, 25, has become a public hate figure over the Big Brother race row

MISERY
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Now builder, Jay, 20 - known as, "Goody" to his mates - says his life is being made a misery by angry drivers mistaking him for her.

Passers-by have started hurling abuse, drivers keep cutting him up and he fears his car could be vandalised. Fed up Jay, from Bristol, said: "It has turned into a nightmare.

"I used to get girls following my car thinking I was her boyfriend. Sometimes I'd play along with it, put my hood up and wear some sunglasses and it would be a good laugh.

"Now people swear at me, give me dirty looks and I've even been threatened by gangs of kids"

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WELL, What do you think??
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When I kept saying that Jade Goody's behavior on the previous two reality shows has nothing to do with what happened in January's, "Celebrity Big Brother", then you must say I am RIGHT.

Jade Goody has been hated, because of the way the show has been edited, to make Jade Goody look really nasty and a racist and a terrile bully.

The people who disliked her before, today, Hate her.

Then, what you have, is, people that did like her before, Hate her today!

Then you have people who like her still and also, see how she has been set up. Then, you find that those people are too scared to stand up for Jade Goody. Their friends may not like you, because you are supporting a Racist Bully who is not a model or anything else special.

This is what people feel.

This Number-Plate incident says it all.

This man is scared to keep this number-plate on his car. He doesn't want his car damaged or, end up being assaulted or anything else happening to him.

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I have mentioned today, on the, (The answer to Jade Goody's problem) topic, that Jade Goody would feel worried about being approached by someone with an Asian or Indian coloured skin.

One member couldn't understand that?

WELL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT NOW?

[GiRTh]

Where's the source for this article?

I like the fact that people now cut him up. He couldn't have done much driving if he thinks people are now cutting him up because of his number plate. Hilarious.

You're, again, mentioning how the show was edited. Do you think Jade was stiched up by the editors as people on this forum claim that the oxo argument went even further than was shown on TV.

As I said on another thread you need to start backing up your claims.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade Goody has been hated, because of the way the show has been edited, to make Jade Goody look really nasty and a racist and a terrile bully.




So it's all purely down to the editing now is it?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Where's the source for this article?

I like the fact that people now cut him up. He couldn't have done much driving if he thinks people are now cutting him up because of his number plate. Hilarious.

You're, again, mentioning how the show was edited. Do you think Jade was stiched up by the editors as people on this forum claim that the oxo argument went even further than was shown on TV.



It is on (page 17) of today's Daily Star (Monday 5th March)


A typical Jade-Hate situation!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is on (page 17) of today's Daily Star (Monday 5th March)


A typical Jade-Hate situation!!

The Star!!!!!

I'm currently watching your credibility fly out of the window. Look, there it goes!!!!!

[Sophii3x]

I really don't blame the guy. If I had that number plate and had to put up with what he has to put up with because of some idiot on the telly. I would get rid of it.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade Goody has been hated, because of the way the show has been edited, to make Jade Goody look really nasty and a racist and a terrile bully.




So it's all purely down to the editing now is it?




All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited. But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

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If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited. But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

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If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

I'm sick of the poor editing defence and it inflames me even more when it's used. I personally think that a bad edit is so easy to spot that it really has become a tiresome excuse.

In the begining Jade looked quite good, so when did you think that the clever editing started?

Again, in your post you've made a number of claims that you need to back up.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is on (page 17) of today's Daily Star (Monday 5th March)


A typical Jade-Hate situation!!

The Star!!!!!

I'm currently watching your credibility fly out of the window. Look, there it goes!!!!!


The Daily Star is a News Paper and the story is real.

Regarding your (credibility) comment?

I am at a loss to understand that!

I am just pointing out, how this is how far people's dislike of Jade Goody has become. A murderer could walk down the street and get treated better.

Jade Goody is having to do what she is doing.

Also, this reality show, Big Brother have a lot to thank Jade Goody for.

Just look at the 2 million+ more ratings they received by letting more people watch this January's show.

Celebrity Big Brother has been nominated for a BAFTA telly gong.

JADE & SHILPA WILL BE MENTIONED, OF COURSE!!

And who will the viewers frown at!!

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

I am sure we are all intelligent enough to know this fact.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited.

How do you know that?

But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

As I have stated previously, I personally feel that there was nothing racial in it, but most people think differently.

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If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

Such as?

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

Precisely!

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

And you know different do you? The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't. GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

If I didn't give a ****, then I would not be having this conversation with you, would I?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

The Daily Star is a News Paper and the story is real.

Again, how do you know the story is real. BACK UP YOU CLAIM.

Regarding your (credibility) comment?

I am at a loss to understand that!

I am just pointing out, how this is how far people's dislike of Jade Goody has become. A murderer could walk down the street and get treated better.

I very much doubt that but keep thinking that if you honestly feel it's true.

Jade Goody is having to do what she is doing.

Of course she has to do it to save her career. There's plenty more money for her to earn from being stupid.

Also, this reality show, Big Brother have a lot to thank Jade Goody for.

True, but lets look at the ethical value of recent BB's.

Just look at the 2 million+ more ratings they received by letting more people watch this January's show.

Celebrity Big Brother has been nominated for a BAFTA telly gong.

JADE & SHILPA WILL BE MENTIONED, OF COURSE!!

And who will the viewers frown at!!

The viewers will frown at Jade because she had to leave to no crowd and a very fake set up of an interview. Did you not see it?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited. But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

___________________________________________

If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

I'm sick of the poor editing defence and it inflames me even more when it's used. I personally think that a bad edit is so easy to spot that it really has become a tiresome excuse.

In the begining Jade looked quite good, so when did you think that the clever editing started?

Again, in your post you've made a number of claims that you need to back up.



Point them out to me!

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Regarding the editing and when it started. "Who Knows?"

However, as Endemol won't hand over the uncut tapes without a court order, we can't really state facts.

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=27538

Jade Goody has only speculation on the Jade-Haters side.

We can only speculate that Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara and Danielle Lloyd because she is an Indian woman

The OXO cube incident and the Chicken, cannot be the only reason for all three of them to fall out.

Nobody's that stupid!

I can only defend, what you are coming out with.

Stating that Jade Goody did not like Shilpa, because she was jealous and racist too.

Many nasty comments are being said about Jade Goody, but, you have to come up with evidence.

You have to prove it and make your case. Jade Goody has been looked upon, like this. As she has come over agressive on the two previous reality shows. It is like, (cry wolf) I would admit that Jade Goody is well aware that Big Brother shows make their money, by arguments and serious clashes in personality.

Maybe, she knows how to play the game?

But, she is not going to just start on Shilpa Shetty, unless there is a real reason.

If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

Are you talking about the Jodie Marsh episode?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

The Daily Star is a News Paper and the story is real.

Again, how do you know the story is real. BACK UP YOU CLAIM.

Regarding your (credibility) comment?

I am at a loss to understand that!

I am just pointing out, how this is how far people's dislike of Jade Goody has become. A murderer could walk down the street and get treated better.

I very much doubt that but keep thinking that if you honestly feel it's true.

Jade Goody is having to do what she is doing.

Of course she has to do it to save her career. There's plenty more money for her to earn from being stupid.

Also, this reality show, Big Brother have a lot to thank Jade Goody for.

True, but lets look at the ethical value of recent BB's.

Just look at the 2 million+ more ratings they received by letting more people watch this January's show.

Celebrity Big Brother has been nominated for a BAFTA telly gong.

JADE & SHILPA WILL BE MENTIONED, OF COURSE!!

And who will the viewers frown at!!

The viewers will frown at Jade because she had to leave to no crowd and a very fake set up of an interview. Did you not see it?



If you doubt that the Daily Star story is false, you are, of course at liberty to e-mail them and accuse them that it is a lie.

Just like every story that comes out in the newspapers. Some are true and the others ???

But I am certainly believing this, as it is more believable. OKAY..
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Jade Goody is NOT doing this for her career!


She has always behaved, exactly like you see her on loads of shows. Check this link:-
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1197669/
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Ethics?? what are you on about? Please be more specific.

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I saw all of Davina's interview and every part of the show, except for all the (E4) live footage, or shall I say, "almost live"!

The choice of moving the crowds, was NOT Jade Goody's choice, it was the choice of the show.

The interview with Davina was very real.

Do you doubt "Davina" or the "Big Brother" shows conduct??

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Point them out to me!

Yau made a comment about Jade having her hate-head on.


Jade Goody has only speculation on the Jade-Haters side.

We can only speculate that Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara and Danielle Lloyd because she is an Indian woman

The OXO cube incident and the Chicken, cannot be the only reason for all three of them to fall out.

Nobody's that stupid! Jade is exactly that stupid. At the end of the day I, nor you, have put Jade in this position she's done it herself.

I can only defend, what you are coming out with.

Stating that Jade Goody did not like Shilpa, because she was jealous and racist too.

This makes no sense. I'm not aware of any post in which I've said that Jade was jealous or racist. I have said that some might find her comments racist. You don't need to be a racist to make racist comments, but when you do people have the right to ask if you're racist.

Many nasty comments are being said about Jade Goody, but, you have to come up with evidence.

Much of it is speculation but very believable speculation.

You have to prove it and make your case. Jade Goody has been looked upon, like this. As she has come over agressive on the two previous reality shows. It is like, (cry wolf) I would admit that Jade Goody is well aware that Big Brother shows make their money, by arguments and serious clashes in personality.

Maybe, she knows how to play the game?

But, she is not going to just start on Shilpa Shetty, unless there is a real reason.

Are you kidding. Remember Sophie in BB3.

If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

Probably becasue Pete Burns actions did not cause over 40,000 official complaints.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

If you doubt that the Daily Star story is false, you are, of course at liberty to e-mail them and accuse them that it is a lie.

Not really bothered bacause I don't read the Star. Personally, I think if you're going to quote from newspapers then the onus is on you to find more reputable sources.

Just like every story that comes out in the newspapers. Some are true and the others ???

But I am certainly believing this, as it is more believable. OKAY..

Believe whatever you want to believe, but in your case it seems to only be things that support your oft kilter view of the events in the house.

Jade Goody is NOT doing this for her career|

LOL. GOOD LORD!!!! Do you honestly believe that? I read a headline in one of the tabloid magazines that said Jade is prepared to stack shelve. Why is she not stacking shelves then? What do you think she is doing in India if it's not trying to save her career?

Ethics?? what are you on about? Please be more specific.

I'm actually agreeing with you. Recently BB ethics have been apalling

saw all of Davina's interview and every part of the show, except for all the (E4) live footage, or shall I say, "almost live"!

The choice of moving the crowds, was NOT Jade Goody's choice, it was the choice of the show.

The interview with Davina was very real.

Do you doubt "Davina" or the "Big Brother" shows conduct??

Absolutely. It was clear thtat Jade had been coached. Jades responses were completely out of character. Jade, as I see her, would have responded much like Jo did. ie claiming that they'd shown the worst bits and that they'd built the story out of proportion. Instead she was saying and doing all the right things. That interview stunk to high hell.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

Point them out to me!

Yau made a comment about Jade having her hate-head on.


Jade Goody has only speculation on the Jade-Haters side.

We can only speculate that Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara and Danielle Lloyd because she is an Indian woman

The OXO cube incident and the Chicken, cannot be the only reason for all three of them to fall out.

Nobody's that stupid! Jade is exactly that stupid. At the end of the day I, nor you, have put Jade in this position she's done it herself.

I can only defend, what you are coming out with.

Stating that Jade Goody did not like Shilpa, because she was jealous and racist too.

This makes no sense. I'm not aware of any post in which I've said that Jade was jealous or racist. I have said that some might find her comments racist. You don't need to be a racist to make racist comments, but when you do people have the right to ask if you're racist.

Many nasty comments are being said about Jade Goody, but, you have to come up with evidence.

Much of it is speculation but very believable speculation.

You have to prove it and make your case. Jade Goody has been looked upon, like this. As she has come over agressive on the two previous reality shows. It is like, (cry wolf) I would admit that Jade Goody is well aware that Big Brother shows make their money, by arguments and serious clashes in personality.

Maybe, she knows how to play the game?

But, she is not going to just start on Shilpa Shetty, unless there is a real reason.

Are you kidding. Remember Sophie in BB3.

If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

Probably becasue Pete Burns actions did not cause over 40,000 official complaints.


Okay, here's the facts and answers
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I said that Jade Goody can get her "Hate-Head" on, as, she can get very touchy and if someone has patronised her or lied or whatever, she will get angry and if Jo & Danielle are there, she will tell them what she thinks of that person.

I still feel that Jade Goody was very restraint!
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Jade can act stupid many times. But, there are some things that even Jade wouldn't do.

You can think what you like on that score!

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People can ask questions whether or not, Jade Goody is a racist person and also, whether words that were said by her on this show, were racist.

That is what Jade Goody has done.

My comments about you quoting, "Jealous" & "Racist" I shall take back.

I have quite a task on my hands and many questions to answer.

In many posts, those words get mentioned. So, I shall continually defend those accusations.

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Placing Jade Goody in this situation, by just people "speculating" is very dangerous.

It is better to be more cautious with that comment.

It could lead to legal stuff.

Evidence is more important than peoples speculation.

Michael Jackson proved himself in a court of law

Jade Goody is in a real mess and many people, (They know who they are!!) want this to just blow over.

I don't blame THEM
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Sophie was a joint affair, not just involving Jade Goody.

Check the evidence!

Plus, once again, there was editing. What brought all this on.
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Pete Burns was very obnoxious and bullying on that show.

But once again, We don't really know the man. He might be a nice guy? Ask "Pete Waterman" He knows him.

The complaints to the Big Brother show were justified!!

I agree with that. It was a disgusting situation to watch.

The way the show zoned in on this argument and the comments which were refered to as having, "Racial Overtones", were bad viewing, by people who don't condone what they heard and saw.

Many would be offended and that did happen.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

If you doubt that the Daily Star story is false, you are, of course at liberty to e-mail them and accuse them that it is a lie.

Not really bothered bacause I don't read the Star. Personally, I think if you're going to quote from newspapers then the onus is on you to find more reputable sources.

Just like every story that comes out in the newspapers. Some are true and the others ???

But I am certainly believing this, as it is more believable. OKAY..

Believe whatever you want to believe, but in your case it seems to only be things that support your oft kilter view of the events in the house.

Jade Goody is NOT doing this for her career|

LOL. GOOD LORD!!!! Do you honestly believe that? I read a headline in one of the tabloid magazines that said Jade is prepared to stack shelve. Why is she not stacking shelves then? What do you think she is doing in India if it's not trying to save her career?

Ethics?? what are you on about? Please be more specific.

I'm actually agreeing with you. Recently BB ethics have been apalling

saw all of Davina's interview and every part of the show, except for all the (E4) live footage, or shall I say, "almost live"!

The choice of moving the crowds, was NOT Jade Goody's choice, it was the choice of the show.

The interview with Davina was very real.

Do you doubt "Davina" or the "Big Brother" shows conduct??

Absolutely. It was clear thtat Jade had been coached. Jades responses were completely out of character. Jade, as I see her, would have responded much like Jo did. ie claiming that they'd shown the worst bits and that they'd built the story out of proportion. Instead she was saying and doing all the right things. That interview stunk to high hell.


More truths and answers
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A am quoting a story of a builders number-plate.

Do I need your permission?

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I don't understand that (Text) talk, isn't that against the rules of the forum. Please be more clear?

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She is wanting to feel safe and also, have her children feel safe, that is why she is campaigning so much.

She used the term:- "Stacking Shelves", this was an answer to a question, if she was broke, she would do that job.

She isn't broke. She's worth a fortune. SO, she's not going to do any shelf stacking, SORRY!

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Jade Goody is more clever than you think!! She grasped the situation quickly and spoke the truth, which is what she mostly does.

She doesn't want to be hated, nor her children either.

This is very obvious and true.

Davina McCall is not going to say to anyone that Jade Goody was briefed beforehand, because she wasn't.

Jade Goody swore on her childrens lives and I believe her.

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I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER NOW.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Placing Jade Goody in this situation, by just people "speculating" is very dangerous.

It is better to be more cautious with that comment.

It could lead to legal stuff.

Evidence is more important than peoples speculation.

Michael Jackson proved himself in a court of law

Jade Goody is in a real mess and many people, (They know who they are!!) want this to just blow over.

I don't blame THEM

I'll only deal with this bit as you seem to be in the main agreeing with me for most of your last post. Incidentally, I thought you were trying to convert me to your way of thinking? Your way of thinking is so out of the stratosphere that common sense had to prevail at some point.

What I was trying to say was that Jades PR team are one of the best in business so those of us who speculate on what their next move is honestly do feel that Jade has been set up by her own team to come acorss as a victim.

[Mrluvaluva]

Does my post at 12.17 not warrant a reply?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

Placing Jade Goody in this situation, by just people "speculating" is very dangerous.

It is better to be more cautious with that comment.

It could lead to legal stuff.

Evidence is more important than peoples speculation.

Michael Jackson proved himself in a court of law

Jade Goody is in a real mess and many people, (They know who they are!!) want this to just blow over.

I don't blame THEM

I'll only deal with this bit as you seem to be in the main agreeing with me for most of your last post. Incidentally, I thought you were trying to convert me to your way of thinking? Your way of thinking is so out of the stratosphere that common sense had to prevail at some point.

What I was trying to say was that Jades PR team are one of the best in business so those of us who speculate on what their next move is honestly do feel that Jade has been set up by her own team to come acorss as a victim.




I wasn't trying to convert you.

I had already worked that out for myself, which is not difficult.

We agree to differ on many points of Jade Goody's situation.

I'll leave it at that!
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Jade Goody does have a great team of advisors, but, many of her advisors, in fact, ALL, will have families and friends.

If they tell their friends and family that their job is protecting and helping Jade Goody, it is not a pleasing thing to say.

They will do what they can for Jade and they will take her money too.


Sometimes there is a balance between the two.

They all take the money and in return do a 30% Help-Jade campaign which is NOT good enough.

This is what I am on about.

Better for it to blow over. The Advisors take their fee and Jade Goody just hides away and that is the end of that.

It is a terrible example of what can happen in this particular situation.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

More truths and answers
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A am quoting a story of a builders number-plate.

Do I need your permission?

Of course not but you claimed that I should send an e-mail to verify the story. No. You should pick a reputable source. Your story is from a paper that has no credibility. Nuff said. Dont blame me for pointing it out.

I don't understand that (Text) talk, isn't that against the rules of the forum. Please be more clear?
Good one!!!! I almost LMFAO

She is wanting to feel safe and also, have her children feel safe, that is why she is campaigning so much.

I still don't get how she does not feel safe. Particularly when on Matthew Wrights show she was talking about the support she'd got from the 'non white' community. Personally, and this will come as a huge shock to you, I think she's been lying in some of her interviews.

[She used the term:- "Stacking Shelves", this was an answer to a question, if she was broke, she would do that job.

She isn't broke. She's worth a fortune. SO, she's not going to do any shelf stacking, SORRY!

Quite smug aren't you and that is the reason why you've got such an uphill struggle to spread the Jade love. It's also the reason why people like me need to be convinced and you're failing to convince us.

Jade Goody is more clever than you think!! She grasped the situation quickly and spoke the truth, which is what she mostly does.

She doesn't want to be hated, nor her children either.

This is very obvious and true.

Davina McCall is not going to say to anyone that Jade Goody was briefed beforehand, because she wasn't.

Jade Goody swore on her childrens lives and I believe her.

Believe what you want. Jade may have some good business smarts but she's just as dumb as I'm sure she is - anybody who wondrss why eskimos tears don't freeze, jeez!!!! I asked my 9 year old niece and she worked it out -She was told what to say, there's no question about it. She doesn't have the brains to say all the right things.

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[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Davina McCall is not going to say to anyone that Jade Goody was briefed beforehand, because she wasn't.



http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/

I quote:

1. "Jade Goody met with her PR and agent before being briefed on questions for her interview with BB host Davina McCall. Their TV chat was then filmed half an hour before it was screened."

2. "It has been alleged that Channel 4, in contradiction with their own rules, told Goody hours before her eviction that her behaviour within the house had damaged her 'girl next door' reputation. Channel 4 at first denied this was the case, but later statements imply that an intervention had occurred, but only to make contestants "realise that what they have said has been misconstrued in the house". The idea, a Channel 4 spokesman said, was to allow the housemates "to explain themselves" to their fellow inmates."

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

I am sure we are all intelligent enough to know this fact.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited.

How do you know that?

But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

As I have stated previously, I personally feel that there was nothing racial in it, but most people think differently.

___________________________________________

If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

Such as?

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

Precisely!

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

And you know different do you? The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't. GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

If I didn't give a ****, then I would not be having this conversation with you, would I?



Sorry, I am busy replying and your post got missed.

This is my last reply until later on today
--------------------------------------------------

To edit that argument between Shilpa and Jade would be a tricky job, without making it look obvious.

Davina said it wasn't edited, but anything is possible, I won't go there.

_______________________________________________

I am glad that you don't think there was anything racial in that argument.

_______________________________________________

I can't speculate what may have caused Jade Goody to react that way. But it makes sense that something was said during some edited out footage. But, that is not for me to state or speculate further


_______________________________________________

I don't say that I know different and if you cannot admit that something may have been edited out, which may of sparked off or inflamed the situation, then I can't really continue to help you understand.

That is up to yourself to grasp and understand!

_______________________________________________

You can hate Jade and debate her at the same time.

That is what I meant!

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
I don't understand that (Text) talk

PMSL!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

I am sure we are all intelligent enough to know this fact.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited.

How do you know that?

But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

As I have stated previously, I personally feel that there was nothing racial in it, but most people think differently.

___________________________________________

If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

Such as?

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

Precisely!

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

And you know different do you? The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't. GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

If I didn't give a ****, then I would not be having this conversation with you, would I?



Sorry, I am busy replying and your post got missed.

This is my last reply until later on today
--------------------------------------------------

To edit that argument between Shilpa and Jade would be a tricky job, without making it look obvious.

Davina said it wasn't edited, but anything is possible, I won't go there.

_______________________________________________

I am glad that you don't think there was anything racial in that argument.

_______________________________________________

I can't speculate what may have caused Jade Goody to react that way. But it makes sense that something was said during some edited out footage. But, that is not for me to state or speculate further


_______________________________________________


I repeat

The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't.

Just tell me if you know the things you are stating to be personally true or not please.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
I don't understand that (Text) talk

PMSL!


http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/faq.php?page=forumrules


(i) No text talk!!

It does all our heads in!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
I don't understand that (Text) talk

PMSL!


http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/faq.php?page=forumrules


(i) No text talk!!

It does all our heads in!

LMFAO

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
I don't understand that (Text) talk

PMSL!


http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/faq.php?page=forumrules


(i) No text talk!!

It does all our heads in!


What text talk are you actually referring to? Please quote, and give Grit a chance to defend himself.

[tinkerbell]

This is really annoying now lol

[GiRTh]

I posted LOL in one of my posts and Mr/Miss Pedantic - the Jade lover took offence to it just to try and be funny. Personally I did LOL at the initial post.

[tinkerbell]

I wonder how much they are paying him to do this.....

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GRiT
I posted LOL in one of my posts and Mr/Miss Pedantic - the Jade lover took offence to it just to try and be funny. Personally I did LOL at the initial post.


lol!

[mansi]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
I wonder how much they are paying him to do this.....

loll

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi
Originally posted by tinkerbell
I wonder how much they are paying him to do this.....

loll


Tink is right. He/She ain't doing it for free. See below a quote from another thread by disharmony

"If I do know her? I wouldn't say anyway. I'm sure you can work that out?"

[Ruth]

To edit that argument between Shilpa and Jade would be a tricky job, without making it look obvious.

Davina said it wasn't edited, but anything is possible, I won't go there.

The argument was edited. They certainly cut out the part where Jade said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa.

[mansi]

=O oh really, I thought he was some zany lunatic...so he/she must be from jade's PR team?

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Ruth
They certainly cut out the part where Jade said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa.


What? Have I missed something? Please explain Ruth.

[mansi]

there were also rumours back then that jade was on the forum after she had been booted out of the house... =S

[GiRTh]

I'm not sure. He/she seems to know a lot that he/she will not divulge but refuses to say why.

The funny thing is his/her first post was a very bragging post saying that he/she was going to change peoples minds. LMFAO.

If he/she is part of Jades team then they've spectactularly failed to make any impression. Sweet.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi
=O oh really, I thought he was some zany lunatic...so he/she must be from jade's PR team?


Looks that way, unless it's Jade typing away herself trying to win people over! lol Actually, I don't think she is intelligent enough to type all these long long posts!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by Ruth
They certainly cut out the part where Jade said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa.


What? Have I missed something? Please explain Ruth.

Some one who watched it live said this ages ago. Didn't you know?

[mansi]

the lady on sky news that interviewed shilpa said jade and the gang were chanting nasty/racist things about shilpa in the bedroom which was not shown....

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by Ruth
They certainly cut out the part where Jade said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa.


What? Have I missed something? Please explain Ruth.

Some one who watched it live said this ages ago. Didn't you know?

No! Pray, tell more!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BAZG

No! Pray, tell more!

Yep. It's true. I'll try and dig up the original post but it's here somewhere.

Apparently there wasa point where Jade threatened to headbutt Shilpa, but it was not to her face. There was another part where Jade and Jack had the idea of dragging Shilpa out of bed and locking her in the shed in the garden.Neither were shown on TV. I'll see if I can find it.

[Ruth]

On the live feed she definitely said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa (it was during the stockcubegate I think). I can't really remember when exactly she said it now though, because all of Jade's shouting became one long racket in my head. It was cut out of the highlights show though. You might be able to find the uncut version on YouTube.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi
the lady on sky news that interviewed shilpa said jade and the gang were chanting nasty/racist things about shilpa in the bedroom which was not shown....


There is also the question of the song, and Jack calling Shilpa a ****.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by BAZG

No! Pray, tell more!

Yep. It's true. I'll try and dig up the original post but it's here somewhere.

Apparently there wasa point where Jade threatened to headbutt Shilpa, but it was not to her face. There was another part where Jade and Jack had the idea of dragging Shilpa out of bed and locking her in the shed in the garden.Neither were shown on TV. I'll see if I can find it.


Ooooh!

[mansi]

Originally posted by GRiT
I'm not sure. He/she seems to know a lot that he/she will not divulge but refuses to say why.

The funny thing is his/her first post was a very bragging post saying that he/she was going to change peoples minds. LMFAO.


yeah I remember him/her saying that, LOLLL

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ruth
On the live feed she definitely said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa (it was during the stockcubegate I think). I can't really remember when exactly she said it now though, because all of Jade's shouting became one long racket in my head. It was cut out of the highlights show though. You might be able to find the uncut version on YouTube.


Thanks

I found this article:

Jade "wants to headbutt" Shilpa
Day 15, 02:38 UTC - by Neil Wilkes, Editor


Warning: This article contains language and/or sexual references that younger readers are advised to avoid.

Jade's anger towards Shilpa has now grown to the point that she wishes to attack her.

The frustrated housemate let off steam in an hour-long, Shilpa-themed bitchfest with Jo, Danielle, Jack and Cleo last night.

Jade was insistent that she would no longer speak to Shilpa following the day's events - and wasn't bothered if it affected her standing within the group. "If it's upset people in this house, so what? ****ing nominate me... I ain't bothered!"

"I look at her and I wanna headbutt her," she continued, before demonstrating one of Shilpa's facial expressions that particularly riled her. "I wanna wipe that smug look off her face."

She also accused Shilpa of turning Dirk and Jermaine against her - but once again, she was unfazed. "I don't care if you're Jermaine Jackson, Shilpa whoever you are, or Dirk whatever your name is," she said defiantly. "If you wanna be short with me, fine!"

Of Shilpa's apparent actions, she added: "I think it's nasty and she's very very manipulative. Very. In my eyes she's a nasty piece of work."


from dsbb

[mansi]

Originally posted by BAZG
Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by BAZG

No! Pray, tell more!

Yep. It's true. I'll try and dig up the original post but it's here somewhere.

Apparently there wasa point where Jade threatened to headbutt Shilpa, but it was not to her face. There was another part where Jade and Jack had the idea of dragging Shilpa out of bed and locking her in the shed in the garden.Neither were shown on TV. I'll see if I can find it.


Ooooh!


yes I remember jade saying she wanted to headbutt shilpa...some video on youtube

[Ruth]

I think I must be wrong about her saying it actually during the argument - but it doesn't alter the fact that she said it. Threatening violence - I'm surprised that BB didn't take a much harder line about it. If it had been a non-celebrity series, I think they might have come down harder on her for saying that.

How could Shilpa turn Dirk and Jermaine against Jade?:rolleyes: They both have minds of their own and I'm sure they could see for themselves what was going on!

Interesting article - thanks for posting it Baz!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi
Originally posted by GRiT
I'm not sure. He/she seems to know a lot that he/she will not divulge but refuses to say why.

The funny thing is his/her first post was a very bragging post saying that he/she was going to change peoples minds. LMFAO.


yeah I remember him/her saying that, LOLLL


Here's some other weird quotes of theirs:

"I am going to convince a few people on this forum and others clicking in. GET READY!!!"


"How can you assume that I don't know her? Maybe I do?!"


"It is time for a fightback!"


"Sadly for all of you Jade-Haters. I have arrived."

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Ruth
Interesting article - thanks for posting it Baz!

No problem.

[GiRTh]

Where's nodisharmony gone? COME BACK. COME BACK AND FIGHT!!!!

[Mrluvaluva]

Currently "offline"

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BAZG

Here's some other weird quotes of theirs:

"I am going to convince a few people on this forum and others clicking in. GET READY!!!"


"How can you assume that I don't know her? Maybe I do?!"


"It is time for a fightback!"


"Sadly for all of you Jade-Haters. I have arrived."

He/she's a bloody wierdo.

[tinkerbell]

He aint convincing no one. He is definatly part of Jades team trying to convince people to love her so shed get her career back and make us watch her Tv shows buy her products...

[S2]

LMAO. Umm Has a member of Jades PR team been hard at work on the TIBB forum, lately?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
LMAO. Umm Has a member of Jades PR team been hard at work on the TIBB forum, lately?

Working too hard and making no impression. It's been sweet. LOL

[S2]

Originally posted by GRiT
Yep. It's true. I'll try and dig up the original post but it's here somewhere.

Apparently there wasa point where Jade threatened to headbutt Shilpa, but it was not to her face. There was another part where Jade and Jack had the idea of dragging Shilpa out of bed and locking her in the shed in the garden.Neither were shown on TV. I'll see if I can find it.

Yeah I saw that. Jade was on a huge rave rant for 40 mins. And she did say she wanted to headbutt Shilpa, Jack also raised the thought of locking Shilpa out in the garden. All this was done in the presence of Danielle, Cleo and Jo, who were laughing their guts out too

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Jack also raised the thought of locking Shilpa out in the garden.

I remember that. Wasn't that bit shown?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
LMAO. Umm Has a member of Jades PR team been hard at work on the TIBB forum, lately?

nodisharmony will be back on the forum later today, according to him/her. (Ooh err - sounds like I am a member of their PR team (any questions go through me ok!) lol). Seem to remember from yesterday that they said there will be some announcements about things soon. Something like that anyway.

[GiRTh]

All true. Shame nodisharmony isn't around to try and spin these events to match his/hers twisted view of things.

[S2]

Originally posted by BAZG


nodisharmony will be back on the forum later today, according to him/her. (Ooh err - sounds like I am a member of their PR team (any questions go through me ok!) lol). Seem to remember from yesterday that they said there will be some announcements about things soon. Something like that anyway.

Maybe s/he is is discussing the latest issues we members have raised about Jade, and s/he is in a conference call with Jade, discussing what to type out next? And considering this is Jade, s/he is probably having to give her a dictionary meaning of the word for word of what we type

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

I am sure we are all intelligent enough to know this fact.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited.

How do you know that?

But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

As I have stated previously, I personally feel that there was nothing racial in it, but most people think differently.

___________________________________________

If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

Such as?

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

Precisely!

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

And you know different do you? The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't. GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

If I didn't give a ****, then I would not be having this conversation with you, would I?



Sorry, I am busy replying and your post got missed.

This is my last reply until later on today
--------------------------------------------------

To edit that argument between Shilpa and Jade would be a tricky job, without making it look obvious.

Davina said it wasn't edited, but anything is possible, I won't go there.

_______________________________________________

I am glad that you don't think there was anything racial in that argument.

_______________________________________________

I can't speculate what may have caused Jade Goody to react that way. But it makes sense that something was said during some edited out footage. But, that is not for me to state or speculate further


_______________________________________________


I repeat

The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't.

Just tell me if you know the things you are stating to be personally true or not please.



I am afraid, I am not on this forum to please you!

Whether you take me seriously, is neither here nor there. I only state facts and what should be plainly obvious to all and that includes yourself

Regarding things that I am stating, if you wish to pick holes in what I say? Then please do.

[GiRTh]

Guess who's back?

__________________________________________________ ___


WAIT FOR NEXT POST

JADE IS A GREAT PERSON

I can't tell you how I know.

__________________________________________________ ___

LOL

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by nodisharmony


Whether you take me seriously, is neither here nor there. I only state facts and what should be plainly obvious to all and that includes yourself

Regarding things that I am stating, if you wish to pick holes in what I say? Then please do.

Jade said she wanted to headbutt Shilpa - fact

jack and Jade wanted to drag Shilpa out of bed and lock her outside - fact

Jade was briefed by her agent after her eviction and before her davina interview - fact

After she was finally accused of racism and bullying in the house Jade stated in the house to Jo and Dannielle that her agent could excuse anything - fact.

Like you - the whole Jade PR stunt extravaganza ia a put up job by her agent to save her "career" - simple fact

and what about the sing song - tsk tsk to the apologists


Carry on

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
I am afraid, I am not on this forum to please you!

Whether you take me seriously, is neither here nor there. I only state facts and what should be plainly obvious to all and that includes yourself

Regarding things that I am stating, if you wish to pick holes in what I say? Then please do.

So cagey. Simple question requiring simple answer. Your perogative. I cannot take you seriously then, until you make a valid point.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by mansi
the lady on sky news that interviewed shilpa said jade and the gang were chanting nasty/racist things about shilpa in the bedroom which was not shown....



People say many things against Jade Goody

Sadly, many of those comments are untrue.

Jade Goody would never say anything racist on the Big Brother show. She is well aware of what this show is all about and also about the cameras and the people watching

Try to work out that!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by spacebandit

Jade said she wanted to headbutt Shilpa - fact

jack and Jade wanted to drag Shilpa out of bed and lock her outside - fact

Jade was briefed by her agent after her eviction and before her davina interview - fact

After she was finally accused of racism and bullying in the house Jade stated in the house to Jo and Dannielle that her agent could excuse anything - fact.

Like you - the whole Jade PR stunt extravaganza ia a put up job by her agent to save her "career" - simple fact

and what about the sing song - tsk tsk to the apologists


Carry on

GET IN!!! BACK OF THE NET!!!

Come on Nodisharmony, don't be shy. After you.

[S2]

nodisharmony can you not quote like an entire page of peoples post please. Geesh my memory doesn't serve me so slow like Jades'. Quote only of what you are replying to

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony


People say many things against Jade Goody

Sadly, many of those comments are untrue.

Jade Goody would never say anything racist on the Big Brother show. She is well aware of what this show is all about and also about the cameras and the people watching

Try to work out that!


Actually, she is human, just like the rest of us, and people do slip up sometimes. Especially when watched 24/7.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
And considering this is Jade, s/he is probably having to give her a dictionary meaning of the word for word of what we type


Well the spell checker ain't workin' is it?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

People say many things against Jade Goody

Sadly, many of those comments are untrue.

Jade Goody would never say anything racist on the Big Brother show. She is well aware of what this show is all about and also about the cameras and the people watching

Try to work out that!

Wake up and smell what you're shovelling.

Jade Goody DID make racist comments "Shilpa Darupa, Shilpa Poppadom". What the hell are they if not racially motivated comments.

Try and work out what? Why don't you take the cumquats out of your mouth and actually say something tangible.

[S2]

Originally posted by GRiT
Guess who's back?

__________________________________________________ ___


WAIT FOR NEXT POST

JADE IS A GREAT PERSON

I can't tell you how I know.

__________________________________________________ ___

LOL

Its amazing how much a post can perk you up.
Grit, cheers for this, it made me laugh a great deal

[tinkerbell]

nodisharmony how much does she pay you to be here?

[Mrluvaluva]

Actually, anybody thought this could just be a ruse by some saddo into making us all think they are from Jades' pr team or something to get loads of replies?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GRiT


JADE IS A GREAT PERSON




JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS!!!

[S2]

Originally posted by BAZG

Well the spell checker ain't workin' is it?

Its probably crashed. Never had to spell check as many words in its lifetime till now, even words like "and, if, but, jade, jack, goody" :joker:

[GiRTh]

Who ever nodisharmony is they've got our attention.

[S2]

Originally posted by GRiT
Wake up and smell what you're shovelling.
Jade Goody DID make racist comments "Shilpa Darupa, Shilpa Poppadom". What the hell are they if not racially motivated comments.
Try and work out what? Why don't you take the cumquats out of your mouth and actually say something tangible.

Jades excuse for that was "well shes indian, Innit, she's not going to have a name like Harris..bla bla bla, shes Indian innit, so shes going to have an Indian name".


Someone tell that dimwit, poppadom isn't an indian name, as such but rather the name of an Indian food. Indian names would be be, Sita, Geeta, Rani, Pooja. If she said any of those it would be apt, but she didn't. She used the term "poppadom" in a racially discriminative way.
What a dumb twit.

[S2]

Originally posted by GRiT
Who ever nodisharmony is they've got our attention.

lets boycott

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GRiT
Who ever nodisharmony is they've got our attention.


I don't understand what point they are trying to make though. Will not convert me without some hard intelligent facts. My beef with Jade is not the racism etc (as with other people, and the bullying). I object to the whole lies that are orchestrated, and the turning point for me was her (private) trip to India. nodisharmony has never retorted on this point. It is a complete waste of time (well with me anyway).

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by GRiT

lets boycott


Where's the fun in that?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by GRiT
Who ever nodisharmony is they've got our attention.

lets boycott

I'd like to but I can't stop myself.

[Mrluvaluva]

nodisharmony is now offline. Please think of questions to pose.

pr team

[Ruth]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by GRiT
Who ever nodisharmony is they've got our attention.

lets boycott

I'd like to but I can't stop myself.

I know - it's too much fun!

[GiRTh]

s/he wasn't on for very long. Is s/he running out of steam? s/he's got to start to actually make tangible comments instead off the "JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS" garbage.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I am afraid, I am not on this forum to please you!

Whether you take me seriously, is neither here nor there. I only state facts and what should be plainly obvious to all and that includes yourself

Regarding things that I am stating, if you wish to pick holes in what I say? Then please do.

Oooh such caginess. It kind of makes me think that you haven't got a clue what you're on about.

You haven't stated any facts. You've stated your opinions. Spacebandit has stated a number of facts - they are definitely true.

Over to you.

[GiRTh]

I almost missed this one.

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I am afraid, I am not on this forum to please you!

You are pleasing me plenty on this forum but not in the way you'd expected.

Whether you take me seriously, is neither here nor there. I only state facts and what should be plainly obvious to all and that includes yourself

I'm awfully sorry but I can't take you seriously. You claim to have insider information but are not prepared to divulge anything. Thus, what you state are a long way from being facts.

Regarding things that I am stating, if you wish to pick holes in what I say? Then please do.

I will pick holes because - and trust me on this - it's hardly challenging.

[Mrluvaluva]

Mmmm. Think that was a retort to my post Grit. Trying to pressurise them into revealing their identity. Why can't they just say whether they know her or not? If you asked me I would simply say no. If I did know her, then I would admit to it, and then, I would get serious questions, as people would be so inquisitive to know a lot of things. And then, maybe I could sway someones opinion. Not hard to work out is it?

[Ruth]

I don't think s/he knows Jade personally - if they did, they would be able to make valid points and back up their arguments rather than just stating an opinion and calling it fact.

Still, it's certainly brightened up a rainy Monday!

[GiRTh]

I wonder if we've run them off. That'd be a shame. I'm enjoying it too much.

[Mrluvaluva]

Back on.

And bye the way everyone. Don't post in capitals. I just got told off by Red! ooooo! It's all disharmonys fault!

Note disharmony - typing in capitals is against forum rules.

Just had a look at their profile & 100% of posts are on CBB. No other subject.

[Ruth]

Gone again:puzzled:

That means I can log off and go home now. See you all tomorrow!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ruth
Gone again:puzzled:

That means I can log off and go home now. See you all tomorrow!


Boring! See ya!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BAZG
Originally posted by Ruth
Gone again:puzzled:

That means I can log off and go home now. See you all tomorrow!


Boring! See you!

Yep. I think we've run 'em off sheriff.

Shame because they were converting all casual clickers to the Church of Jade Goody. Praise the lord!!!!!!!Praise her!!!!!!

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Ruth
I don't think s/he knows Jade personally - if they did, they would be able to make valid points and back up their arguments rather than just stating an opinion and calling it fact.

Still, it's certainly brightened up a rainy Monday!

A namedropper who is afraid to namedrop....

or

A wannabe namedropper...??


Either way....an internet first ??


:laugh2:

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony

People say many things against Jade Goody

Sadly, many of those comments are untrue.

Jade Goody would never say anything racist on the Big Brother show. She is well aware of what this show is all about and also about the cameras and the people watching

Try to work out that!

Wake up and smell what you're shovelling.

Jade Goody DID make racist comments "Shilpa Darupa, Shilpa Poppadom". What the hell are they if not racially motivated comments.

Try and work out what? Why don't you take the cumquats out of your mouth and actually say something tangible.




Jade did NOT make any racist comments!

The Big Brother show will NOT allow racism on the show. Anybody being racist will be thrown out.

The show has responsabilities to it's viewers. If something has offended many viewers, it is their job to sort this and this is what they do.

The Big Brother show was not getting the ratings that they were looking for.

What they tried to do is make certain changes. They split the house in two parts and brought in Jade and he family. Jermaine Jackson, Ken Russell and Shilpa Shetty became part of their family.

Sadly, as a result of this, the ratings still were quite low.

Suddenly, there was friction building between Shilpa Shetty and Jade Goody and Jo and Danielle. This was something worth pursuing. There was not too much else to talk about.

Still, the show was getting quite small ratings.

SUDDENLY, There was some words in sentances, referring to Shilpa Shetty which seemed to have "Racial overtones". It was'nt any of the three girls being racist people, it was just their naivety and stupidity which made them stumble into that area.

Suddenly, after these comments were aired, there was a global media frenzy! An argument between Jade & Shilpa, with Danielle & Jo laughing their heads off.

Beyond that point, the outrage had increased, so did the complaints and there was talk about ending the show. Things had got to almost breaking point.

Ratings were up by millions

Anyway, It was sorted and the Big Brother show, continued with it's transmission. The problem between Shilpa and the girls continued and more stuff got said and eventually there was a change of mood in the house.

_____________________________________________

The reason I have given this story to you, is:-

You are mentioning words and sentances which are apparently Racist!!

BUT, Big Brother do not allow racism. Any racist comments would be bird-whistled out and that housemate thrown out or seriously warned.

The show is NOT going to place themselves in this position, they are NOT stupid! They know exactly how to make and run this programme and also, what get's ratings.

People crave for Jade Goody as she has what viewers like. She makes drama and gives us all a bit of excitement.

No words in the show were racist. There were comments which may have had racial overtones, but, if they were seriously bad, the show would have been in trouble and this was NOT the case.

I know that you are attempting to state those words and make them into racism, but it has to be handled delicately and there are people who have more experience on definations of racism and what is and isn't acceptable.
______________________________________________

However, Jade Goody has been placed in the unfortunate position of being the ring leader.

If you asked "Jo O'Meara". (Do You Need People To Follow?"

Or, (Can You Make Your Mind Up and Not Be A Follower)

She would, of course say, (NO) to the first question & (YES) to the second.

[Red Moon]

Can I remind people that gang warfare is not approved of on the site and nor are personal insults.

Can we keep the thread on topic and discuss the issues and not the posters.

Or the thread will be closed and warnings could be issued.

Red

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony


No words in the show were racist. There were comments which may have had racial overtones, but, if they were seriously bad, the show would have been in trouble and this was NOT the case.

I know that you are attempting to state those words and make them into racism, but it has to be handled delicately and there are people who have more experience on definations of racism and what is and isn't acceptable.

I've narrowed it down to this as the rest is waffle. Do you remember my cumquats comment? They're still in your mouth.

How can you say this when there was an outrage within the Indian community. Whether you believe it or not - and this must be the third of fourth time I've had to make this point - some people deemed her comments to be racist. Do you not see the problem?

And please can I emphasise the word "brief" to describe your reply.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

I know that you are attempting to state those words and make them into racism, but it has to be handled delicately and there are people who have more experience on definations of racism and what is and isn't acceptable.



I don't think she is racist at all, or that anything she said was racist. You know this because I told you, and you commented on this.

Spacebandit did not mention anything about racism (apart from the sing song which we still lnow nothing about).

Can you answer the point I keep re-iterating about her trip to India, or are you avoiding this issue for some reason?

check your u2u messages

[GiRTh]

Look at Red getting all-masterful. Posting in red and all.

Moony, nodisharmony started this thread and in his/her first ever post on the forum made the hugely braggadocios (I love that word) claim that he/she was going to change people minds.

He/she has then proceeded to make the same misjudged posts over and over again. Everybody has at some point chipped in to slice his/her posts to pieces. This is not an intended gang it's a by-product of someone claming they can do the impossible i.e. Make Jade Goody seem likeable.

[Mrluvaluva]

to nodisharmony:

If you are just a fan of Jades, why can't you just say?

I don't like playing games. They're pathetic.

Answer the question or shove off.

Avoiding answering the question is just as bad as lying, That makes me think you are not being honest, and influences my judgement of you.

We therefore cannot have a meaningful conversation.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade did NOT make any racist comments!

Erm...yes she did.

The Big Brother show will NOT allow racism on the show. Anybody being racist will be thrown out.

They did allow it. They obviously didn't forsee the uproar it would cause, and they then went on a damage limitation exercise.

The show has responsabilities to it's viewers. If something has offended many viewers, it is their job to sort this and this is what they do.

They had a half hearted attempt at sorting it out when they called Danielle and Jade into the diary room (the highlights show only showed a slight portion of their diary room chats.)

The Big Brother show was not getting the ratings that they were looking for.

True. Which is why they were happy to tolerate the absive behaviour of Jade and her crew. It got people talking and therefore watching.

What they tried to do is make certain changes. They split the house in two parts and brought in Jade and he family. Jermaine Jackson, Ken Russell and Shilpa Shetty became part of their family.

Do you work for Endemol? How do you know what their plans were? I would suggest that the splitting of the house was planned before the series began. They couldn't have know who the housemates would choose to remain in the main house.

Suddenly, there was friction building between Shilpa Shetty and Jade Goody and Jo and Danielle. This was something worth pursuing. There was not too much else to talk about.

I won't disagree with you there. But as I said earlier, that's the reason that they were prepared to allow such awful behaviour from the three girls (and to a lesser extent, Jack.)

SUDDENLY, There was some words in sentances, referring to Shilpa Shetty which seemed to have "Racial overtones". It was'nt any of the three girls being racist people, it was just their naivety and stupidity which made them stumble into that area.

How do you know?

Suddenly, after these comments were aired, there was a global media frenzy! An argument between Jade & Shilpa, with Danielle & Jo laughing their heads off.

Again I agree. That was exactly what Endemol had hoped for. But imagine if Jade, Jo and Danielle had acted perfectly reasonably? They could have done that if they had chosen - but they were happy to rant and rave at Shilpa and find it hilarious.

Beyond that point, the outrage had increased, so did the complaints and there was talk about ending the show. Things had got to almost breaking point.

Ratings were up by millions

And again I have to say - it was obvious that such a media furore would increase viewing figures. That's why Endemol tolerated Jade and co.'s behaviour for so long.

Anyway, It was sorted and the Big Brother show, continued with it's transmission. The problem between Shilpa and the girls continued and more stuff got said and eventually there was a change of mood in the house.

But it wasn't sorted! The change of mood happened way before the stock cube argument. Things only got (superficially) better because BB warned Danielle and Jade that their behaviour was not being looked on favourably.

You are mentioning words and sentances which are apparently Racist!!

BUT, Big Brother do not allow racism. Any racist comments would be bird-whistled out and that housemate thrown out or seriously warned.

They do allow racism, because that is what happened. They warned Jade and Danielle - that was their way of calming the situation.

The show is NOT going to place themselves in this position, they are NOT stupid! They know exactly how to make and run this programme and also, what get's ratings.

Yes!! They know that conflict, scandal and controversy gets ratings. So they were happy to allow the situation to continue. If they had kicked Jade out, the house would have calmed down, which would not have been good for ratings.

People crave for Jade Goody as she has what viewers like. She makes drama and gives us all a bit of excitement.

People obviously don't crave her, because she is now extremely unpopular. If she is so craved, how come more than 80% of the votes were to evict her over Shilpa?

I'd say that anyone who finds Jade exciting could do with some excitement in their life.

I know that you are attempting to state those words and make them into racism, but it has to be handled delicately and there are people who have more experience on definations of racism and what is and isn't acceptable.

Are you one of those people? How do you know what experience in such matters anyone here has?

However, Jade Goody has been placed in the unfortunate position of being the ring leader.

She placed herself in that position.

If you asked "Jo O'Meara". (Do You Need People To Follow?"

Or, (Can You Make Your Mind Up and Not Be A Follower)

She would, of course say, (NO) to the first question & (YES) to the second. Sorry - maybe it's me, but I can't understand what on earth you are trying to say here.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony


No words in the show were racist. There were comments which may have had racial overtones, but, if they were seriously bad, the show would have been in trouble and this was NOT the case.

I know that you are attempting to state those words and make them into racism, but it has to be handled delicately and there are people who have more experience on definations of racism and what is and isn't acceptable.

I've narrowed it down to this as the rest is waffle. Do you remember my cumquats comment? They're still in your mouth.

How can you say this when there was an outrage within the Indian community. Whether you believe it or not - and this must be the third of fourth time I've had to make this point - some people deemed her comments to be racist. Do you not see the problem?

And please can I emphasise the word "brief" to describe your reply.




I can only say what the facts are and the way things are displayed to the public and even yourself.

We can all debate in a vacuum

That part is very easy to do. What if? It could have? if this? (we can all debate on that score)

I do state things which may offend you, as Jade Goody is no angel and is not perfect either. She does have a very fiery personality and is very upfront with her opinions, which 9 times out of 10 she's right!!

Sometimes the truth hurts.

In answer to your question, were people offended by Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara's comments? the answer to that question is obviously YES!!

I have been on this forum, making the truth known and also at the same time, trying to prove to you all that Jade Goody is not a Racist Bully.

People were offended and Jade Goody recognized this straight away and has done nothing but say sorry for her part in all of this and she has said many things in many interviews.

She did not look at Shilpa Shetty as anything else but a person. Colour of skin was nothing to do with it. Any comment that was said on the Big Brother show was NOT a racist comment.

You can blame Big Brother, if you wish?

I am NOT on here to defend them, only Jade Goody. However. If Big Brother have stated clearly that there is NO racism EVER allowed in their show and the police have looked into this and had conversations with Endemol and the conclusion has been drawn.

There has been NO racism present on the Big Brother show. But, as this show zoned in on words and sentances that could be deemed to be slightly over the top, with possible (racial overtones) Then it is fair to say, that, people have every right to complain by the way the show was broadcasted.

This is what has caused Jade Goody and the girls, the greif that they are experiencing today.

Jade Goody gives what audiences at home want to see in a reality show. But, as she has been judged from past experiences of being on a reality show. People have judged her from the past and have added this recent bullyish looking nature and various words and sentances with possible racial overtones to Jade Goody's problem.

NOW SHE IS APPARENTLY THE ENEMY?

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Ruth
If you asked "Jo O'Meara". (Do You Need People To Follow?"

Or, (Can You Make Your Mind Up and Not Be A Follower)

She would, of course say, (NO) to the first question & (YES) to the second. Sorry - maybe it's me, but I can't understand what on earth you are trying to say here.


I think they are trying to say that Jade did not lead the girls astray Ruth. It's the question of "If Jade had not been there, would it have happened"? I think not.

[mansi]

Originally posted by BAZG
to nodisharmony:

If you are just a fan of Jades, why can't you just say?

I don't like playing games. They're pathetic.

Answer the question or shove off.

Avoiding answering the question is just as bad as lying, That makes me think you are not being honest, and influences my judgement of you.

We therefore cannot have a meaningful conversation.



agree .............?

[mansi]

busy typing away your essay?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by mansi
busy typing away your essay?

There's no need for negativity. :bored:

Anyway, about the topic - why would someone notice the numberplate, and then go on and chase the car/administer insults/abuse? LOL too much hassle if you ask me.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi
busy typing away your essay?

they are offline again

[tinkerbell]

I dont think any dignified and respectable person would do that, so embarassing!

[Mrluvaluva]

back on!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by BAZG
back on!

It's not a witch hunt, haha.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by BAZG
back on!

It's not a witch hunt, haha.


I'm just joking.

[James]

Best to stick to the topic.

Jade is getting herself talked about here, I'll grant her that!

To be honest I prefer her to just quietly leave public life.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by mansi
busy typing away your essay?

There's no need for negativity. :bored:

Anyway, about the topic - why would someone notice the numberplate, and then go on and chase the car/administer insults/abuse? LOL too much hassle if you ask me.



People see the number plate on the car.

Work out, very quickly what the Number Plate is saying and then, all those feelings come out from within "those minds."

The kind of minds which work overtime hating Jade Goody.

Last year, people liked her.

This year, PEOPLE HATE HER!!

This is why, he has to kiss goodbye to £250 and the number plate.

Lucky there is Ebay!!!

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by nodisharmony




Last year, people liked her.

This year, PEOPLE HATE HER!!




In 1933 people loved Hitler

!939 - go figure

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
I can only say what the facts are and the way things are displayed to the public and even yourself.

Yes, but until you state otherwise, you only have the same material to go on as the rest of us. This means that what you are stating is opinion, not fact. If you have insiderknowledge, please tell. The fact that you have been asked this many times and have refused to answer suggests one of two thinggs. 1. You have no insider knowledge and don't want to admit it 2. You are coming on here to wind people up.

I do state things which may offend you, as Jade Goody is no angel and is not perfect either. She does have a very fiery personality and is very upfront with her opinions, which 9 times out of 10 she's right!!

Sometimes the truth hurts.

What opinions are you referring to? Again, if she expresses her opinions and you agree with them, it doesn't necessarily make her right or wrong. I have not seen Jade be right about much in my opinion.

In answer to your question, were people offended by Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara's comments? the answer to that question is obviously YES!!

I have been on this forum, making the truth known and also at the same time, trying to prove to you all that Jade Goody is not a Racist Bully.

We can all see the truth for ourselves. Unless you have some insider knowledge which you are willing to impart, why should anyone believe your version of the truth anymore than their own?

People were offended and Jade Goody recognized this straight away and has done nothing but say sorry for her part in all of this and she has said many things in many interviews.

Straight away? She didn't recognise it straight away otherwise she would have stopped. She only stopped when BB told her that her actions were being viewed unfavourably.

She did not look at Shilpa Shetty as anything else but a person. Colour of skin was nothing to do with it. Any comment that was said on the Big Brother show was NOT a racist comment.

With apologies for repeating myself - how do you know how Jade viewed Shilpa, or whether or not colour of skin had anything to do with it?

You can blame Big Brother, if you wish?

They are partly to blame for not stepping in earlier, and for not taking a hard enough line when they did step in.

I am NOT on here to defend them, only Jade Goody. However. If Big Brother have stated clearly that there is NO racism EVER allowed in their show and the police have looked into this and had conversations with Endemol and the conclusion has been drawn.

Well of course they will say that they don't allow racism. However, their actions speak louder than their words.

This is what has caused Jade Goody and the girls, the greif that they are experiencing today.

No - it is their own behaviour that has caused Jade and co the grief that they are experiencing today.

Jade Goody gives what audiences at home want to see in a reality show.

Obviously not, as more than 80% of votes were to evict her.

But, as she has been judged from past experiences of being on a reality show. People have judged her from the past and have added this recent bullyish looking nature and various words and sentances with possible racial overtones to Jade Goody's problem.

Exactly. Her past behaviour just goes to show that her behaviour in the house this year was not a one-off.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
I can only say what the facts are and the way things are displayed to the public and even yourself.

Yes, but until you state otherwise, you only have the same material to go on as the rest of us. This means that what you are stating is opinion, not fact. If you have insiderknowledge, please tell. The fact that you have been asked this many times and have refused to answer suggests one of two thinggs. 1. You have no insider knowledge and don't want to admit it 2. You are coming on here to wind people up.

I do state things which may offend you, as Jade Goody is no angel and is not perfect either. She does have a very fiery personality and is very upfront with her opinions, which 9 times out of 10 she's right!!

Sometimes the truth hurts.

What opinions are you referring to? Again, if she expresses her opinions and you agree with them, it doesn't necessarily make her right or wrong. I have not seen Jade be right about much in my opinion.

In answer to your question, were people offended by Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara's comments? the answer to that question is obviously YES!!

I have been on this forum, making the truth known and also at the same time, trying to prove to you all that Jade Goody is not a Racist Bully.

We can all see the truth for ourselves. Unless you have some insider knowledge which you are willing to impart, why should anyone believe your version of the truth anymore than their own?

People were offended and Jade Goody recognized this straight away and has done nothing but say sorry for her part in all of this and she has said many things in many interviews.

Straight away? She didn't recognise it straight away otherwise she would have stopped. She only stopped when BB told her that her actions were being viewed unfavourably.

She did not look at Shilpa Shetty as anything else but a person. Colour of skin was nothing to do with it. Any comment that was said on the Big Brother show was NOT a racist comment.

With apologies for repeating myself - how do you know how Jade viewed Shilpa, or whether or not colour of skin had anything to do with it?

You can blame Big Brother, if you wish?

They are partly to blame for not stepping in earlier, and for not taking a hard enough line when they did step in.

I am NOT on here to defend them, only Jade Goody. However. If Big Brother have stated clearly that there is NO racism EVER allowed in their show and the police have looked into this and had conversations with Endemol and the conclusion has been drawn.

Well of course they will say that they don't allow racism. However, their actions speak louder than their words.

This is what has caused Jade Goody and the girls, the greif that they are experiencing today.

No - it is their own behaviour that has caused Jade and co the grief that they are experiencing today.

Jade Goody gives what audiences at home want to see in a reality show.

Obviously not, as more than 80% of votes were to evict her.

But, as she has been judged from past experiences of being on a reality show. People have judged her from the past and have added this recent bullyish looking nature and various words and sentances with possible racial overtones to Jade Goody's problem.

Exactly. Her past behaviour just goes to show that her behaviour in the house this year was not a one-off.

Cheers Ruth. I couldn't have put it better.

Nodisharmony are your posts being dictated to you? You always refer to her by her full name. Odd.

Anyway, cut the waffle and start to back up your facts.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by mansi
Originally posted by BAZG
to nodisharmony:

If you are just a fan of Jades, why can't you just say?

I don't like playing games. They're pathetic.

Answer the question or shove off.

Avoiding answering the question is just as bad as lying, That makes me think you are not being honest, and influences my judgement of you.

We therefore cannot have a meaningful conversation.



agree .............?

Me too.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by nodisharmony




Last year, people liked her.

This year, PEOPLE HATE HER!!




In 1933 people loved Hitler

!939 - go figure



You can hardly compare the two!

[Red Moon]

Everything has been said that can be said.

Clearly people will never agree on this subject

Topic Closed

Red