BBC defends itself against racism allegations after EastEnders' Tameka Empson exit

[arista]

['Judges judge the dancing - nothing else':
BBC defends itself against racism
allegations after EastEnders'
Tameka Empson becomes the
second black person voted
off in two weeks
BBC has defended Strictly
Come Dancing against
allegations of racism
It follows the departure
of a second black contestant
in as many weeks
Viewers took to social media
to accuse the voting public of being 'racist'
BBC spokeswoman said: 'Judges judge
the dancing and the dancing alone']


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It is not racism that got her gone
she is a horrible dancer
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[Headie]

Pray 4 Ore :worry:

[Nicky91]

Pray 4 Ore :worry:

[Alf]

"We don't know who picked up their phone to vote, but we'll just call them racists anyway".

[Alf]

I thought the same thing when Edwina Currie went first.

Bleeding racists

[Amy Jade]

I saw her dance and she wasnt that bad but she wasnt that great either. Her fans dropped the ball nothing about race imo:shrug:

I'm not sure how people can scream racism when Louis Smith and Alesha Dixon have won and Natalie Gumede, Denise Lewis, Simon Webbe, Colin Jackson, Ricky Whittle and Chelsee Healey have reached the final and Martin Offiah came 4th in season 1, Patrick Robinson was like 5th in the season Gumede came 2nd, Sunetra Sarker was 7th I think in a hugely competitive season and Anita Rani was 5th last year wasnt she?

Melvin going 1st was the first time a black contestant has gone first in 15 seasons and he was crap.

[Cherie]

Why was Laura in the bottom two...:suspect: anti Irish?

[Niamh.]

Why was Laura in the bottom two...:suspect: anti Irish?

Probably :nono:

[Cherie]

I saw her dance and she wasnt that bad but she wasnt that great either. Her fans dropped the ball nothing about race imo:shrug:

I'm not sure how people can scream racism when Louis Smith and Alesha Dixon have won and Natalie Gumede, Denise Lewis, Simon Webbe, Colin Jackson, Ricky Whittle and Chelsee Healey have reached the final and Martin Offiah came 4th in season 1, Patrick Robinson was like 5th in the season Gumede came 2nd, Sunetra Sarker was 7th I think in a hugely competitive season and Anita Rani was 5th last year wasnt she?

Melvin going 1st was the first time a black contestant has gone first in 15 seasons and he was crap.

Stop talking sense Amy :nono:

[Cherie]

Probably :nono:

Irish dancers matter :hmph:

[Nicky91]

Why was Laura in the bottom two...:suspect: anti Irish?

no, because the Irish can't vote that's why, Jennifer Gibney also wasn't too popular, even Daniel O'Donnell, did not last too long :)

[Braden]

I do think it's perculiar that an Eastenders actress has gone so early, but I think it's mainly due to her position on the scoreboard.

Ever since John Sergeant there's been a reoccurence that the absolute worst is saved by the public for a period of time. The people who fall in the middle and don't garner enough support for being really good or really bad (like Jamelia last year) always find themselves in the bottom 2. I think that's what happened here.

[Cherie]

no, because the Irish can't vote that's why, Jennifer Gibney also wasn't too popular, even Daniel O'Donnell, did not last too long :)

It's a dancing competition, not a regional popularity contest :fist:

[Nicky91]

It's a dancing competition, not a regional popularity contest :fist:

yes, and Jennifer wasn't quite good with her dancing, and Daniel also wasn't the best dancer :)

[Amy Jade]

I do think it's perculiar that an Eastenders actress has gone so early, but I think it's mainly due to her position on the scoreboard.


It has happened a few seasons, some do well and others flop - in series 6 three Eastenders actors went in four weeks - Phil Daniels out 1st, then Gillian Taylforth 2nd and Jessie Wallace was 4th out. All are white too. :hehe:

[Nicky91]

I still feel pretty upset over Tameka leaving :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

I still feel pretty upset over Tameka leaving :(

Its for the best and when Daisy leaves next week we can concentrate on saving Laura and Will in the coming weeks

:fc:

[Cherie]

It has happened a few seasons, some do well and others flop - in series 6 three Eastenders actors went in four weeks - Phil Daniels out 1st, then Gillian Taylforth 2nd and Jessie Wallace was 4th out. All are white too. :hehe:

It's only news if they exit early if they are black :idc:

[Braden]

It has happened a few seasons, some do well and others flop - in series 6 three Eastenders actors went in four weeks - Phil Daniels out 1st, then Gillian Taylforth 2nd and Jessie Wallace was 4th out. All are white too. :hehe:

You can tell I don't remember much about Strictly :p

But yeah, I think the main reason why people are so shocked is because her character on Eastenders is so well-liked, and her leaving early is an odd concept. Nothing to do with race, all to do with the scoreboard.

[Pete.]

How can the BBC defend something that is out of their hands. The judges aren't racist because they base their decisions on the dancing, but the viewing public undeniably are for reasons I raised in the other thread (justice for Jamelia)

[Nicky91]

the public are responsible for putting Tameka in the dance off, if they voted for her it would not have happened :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I dont think that white people preferring or identifying with white people is racist. If the boot was on the other foot demographiocally then black people would do the same

I would love to see the voting preference of black viewers who vote on strictly...

:idc:

[MB.]

I wouldn't quite say "preferring white people isn't racist"

[Firewire]

I dont think that white people preferring or identifying with white people is racist. If the boot was on the other foot demographiocally then black people would do the same

I would love to see the voting preference of black viewers who vote on strictly...

:idc:

The bold part, complete, is a correct statement.

[Nicky91]

but if people would vote based on dancing, Anastacia and Naga or Ed should've been in the dance off, they are the worst dancers of the competition in my opinion, the people who voted for them are responsible for Tameka being in the dance off :mad:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The bold part, complete, is a correct statement.

incorrect, grammatically it is wrong

and do you have a scrap of evidence to support your claim or are you just jumping on a pc bandwaggon to appear "cool"?

[MB.]

Yeah Jonathan prove that white supremacy is a myth

[Firewire]

incorrect, grammatically it is wrong

and do you have a scrap of evidence to support your claim or are you just jumping on a pc bandwaggon to appear "cool"?

Preferring someone purely because they are white is racist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Preferring someone purely because they are white is racist.

in a dance show?


how would that work?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah Jonathan prove that white supremacy is a myth

what on earth are you on about?

[Firewire]

in a dance show?


how would that work?

The same way as it would in real life...

What a ridiculous comment

[Crimson Dynamo]

next you will be saying gay men are sexist as they wont date women

[Crimson Dynamo]

The same way as it would in real life...

What a ridiculous comment

so lets get this straight, I dont find black women attractive, i understand that skin colour is dictated by geography and proximity to the sun and i fully understand that no race is intrinsically superior to any other

but i am racist?

wow

[MB.]

what on earth are you on about?

You wanted proof of the idea that preferring white people because they're white might be a little racist

[Nicky91]

Tameka just did not get enough votes, because not everyone didn't like her behaviour, i did love her a lot, it definitely wasn't her time to be voted out :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

You wanted proof of the idea that preferring white people because they're white might be a little racist

you just made a smart arse comment, dont try and make it owt else

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tameka just did not get enough votes, because not everyone didn't like her behaviour, i did love her a lot, it definitely wasn't her time to be voted out :(

:nono:

no nicky its all about white power and slavery

[Ross.]

I love serious debates & news

[Firewire]

next you will be saying gay men are sexist as they wont date women

The two aren't comparable.

That's like preferring beef stew to fish stew.

[Nicky91]

:nono:

no nicky its all about white power and slavery

it's a dancing show and having a good personality is important :)


just because Melvin and Tameka are voted out first and second, there are racism claims, i think they had just done weak dances when they were eliminated :)


anyway Ore is a very good dancer, and i can see staying for a long while, at least until blackpool perhaps :)

[Firewire]

Naga will be out next #WhiteSupremacyKKK

[Crimson Dynamo]

The two aren't comparable.

That's like preferring beef stew to fish stew.

Louis Smith, Alesha Dixon and Mark Ramprakash

How did they manage to win?

:think:

maybe the racists were voting off black singers on X-Factor that year?

[MB.]

Yeah I do wonder how they managed to win considering white people prefer white people

[LukeB]

I don't think it has anything to do with racism, black people mostly do well on this show, some have won and some have got in the finals and some were eliminated close to the final. Jamelia being in the bottom 2 all the time doesn't happen often it hardly happens at all. SCD always has a shock bottom 2/elimination even the winners have been there see Caroline Flack and Abby. Tameka would mostly have been saved next week.

[Nicky91]

Naga will be out next #WhiteSupremacyKKK

Naga will be out next, and it's then because she's the weakest dancer :)

[Firewire]

Louis Smith, Alesha Dixon and Mark Ramprakash

How did they manage to win?

:think:

maybe the racists were voting off black singers on X-Factor that year?

I wasn't the one who said it's down to racism

I merely criticised your post

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wasn't the one who said it's down to racism

I merely criticised your post

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[Pete.]

LT stop

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT stop

Stop what

Saying that millions of people who vote on strictly are not racist?

[MB.]

I think this is a good time to remember that nobody here is saying that the voters are racist and the only thing that might be is the thought that white people preferring white people based on their race is fine

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think this is a good time to remember that nobody here is saying that the voters are racist and the only thing that might be is the thought that white people preferring white people based on their race is fine

and do you think that if we looked at all the black people who voted on Strictly we may see a pattern emerging there?

[MB.]

No

[Crimson Dynamo]

No
:joker:

good one

[Firewire]

Is he meant to lie and say yes?

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.ranker.com/list/tv-shows-most-loved-by-african-americans/ranker-tv?var=12&utm_expid=16418821-253.BAWaw7_5T3qAVTf7EdWDtA.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F

[Firewire]

We're not talking about African-Americans here

[MB.]

In other news someone's dancing to Carly this week so let's focus on the real issues here

[Crimson Dynamo]

We're not talking about African-Americans here

Just an example. I am not sure you actually understand what racism is though?

[Firewire]

Just an example. I am not sure you actually understand what racism is though?

I can't, I'm white.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can't, I'm white.

humour wont save you Im afraid

[Firewire]

humour wont save you Im afraid

I wasn't trying to be funny

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wasn't trying to be funny



If the BBC put a black only sitcom on prime time do you think it would do as well as a very similar white only one?

if both had the same content?

If you think the white one would get more viewers I take it that would be due solely to racism?

[Mokka]

If the BBC put a black only sitcom on prime time do you think it would do as well as a very similar white only one?

if both had the same content?
If you think the white one would get more viewers I take it that would be due solely to racism?

In American sitcoms.... this is exactly what would happen and historically has happened.

[Firewire]

In American sitcoms.... this is exactly what would happen and historically has happened.

I think it would happen here as well

The UK doesn't have a great track history of black characters in leading roles

[Crimson Dynamo]

In American sitcoms.... this is exactly what would happen and historically has happened.


Yes did you see my link earlier in the thread to fave tv shows of african Americans?

[Denver]

I think it would happen here as well

The UK doesn't have a great track history of black characters in leading roles

although they have with Asian sitcoms

[Mokka]

Yes did you see my link earlier in the thread to fave tv shows of african Americans?

No....I don't follow you around the forum :smug:

[Firewire]

although they have with Asian sitcoms

Not really, I can only think of three and all three are full of offensive stereotypes

[Crimson Dynamo]

No....I don't follow you around the forum :smug:

i thought perhaps you would have scanned the thread before posting?

[Amy Jade]

Jamelia was bottom because a lot of people do not like her personality on Loose Women and there were better dancers :shrug:

[GoldHeart]

I do think it's perculiar that an Eastenders actress has gone so early, but I think it's mainly due to her position on the scoreboard.

Ever since John Sergeant there's been a reoccurence that the absolute worst is saved by the public for a period of time. The people who fall in the middle and don't garner enough support for being really good or really bad (like Jamelia last year) always find themselves in the bottom 2. I think that's what happened here.

Nobody voted for her!!! . And yeah it's very very perculiar :bored: yeah right i always knew this would happen , and it's soo awful because think back to past eastenders actors/actresses they never left as early as this so it looks bad all round because some previous EE ACTORS have either won or made it much further in the competition .
case in point >>>>>>>>> :suspect:

JAKE WOOD make it to the semi's
KARA TOINTON won ( matt baker was robbed)
KELLIE BRIGHT made it to the final last year ( she was annoying as f)
SCOTT MASLEN got to the semi's (interesting same as his fictional brother )
LETITIA DEAN made it to week 10 or something
JILL HALFPENNY won (overrated IMO )
even PATSY PALMER made it to week 8 or something
LOUISA LYTTON finished in fourth place (i expected her to win with all the hype they made about her )
MATT DI ANGELO came second (he clearly got sympathy vote in certain weeks )
RICKY GROVES lasted a good few weeks
ANITA DOBSON lasted a good while aswell
NATALIE CASSIDY made it to the quarter's i'm sure
Oh and CHRISTOPHER PARKER finished in second place and he was terrible!!!

I'm not saying the public loves every eastender's actor (in series 6 a few got booted off early on and sid owen left early in another series) but the majority seem to be popular hence the list and they always seem to have a huge fan base , so it's ashame Tameka couldn't of gotten support for atleast a few more weeks , i think it's ridiculous

[kirklancaster]

I saw her dance and she wasnt that bad but she wasnt that great either. Her fans dropped the ball nothing about race imo:shrug:

I'm not sure how people can scream racism when Louis Smith and Alesha Dixon have won and Natalie Gumede, Denise Lewis, Simon Webbe, Colin Jackson, Ricky Whittle and Chelsee Healey have reached the final and Martin Offiah came 4th in season 1, Patrick Robinson was like 5th in the season Gumede came 2nd, Sunetra Sarker was 7th I think in a hugely competitive season and Anita Rani was 5th last year wasnt she?

Melvin going 1st was the first time a black contestant has gone first in 15 seasons and he was crap.

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