The US Election Tuesday Nov 8 2016 - TRUMP WINS!!

[Maru]

The shock will probably get worse tomorrow. I don't think everyone stayed up

[Maru]

..I honestly think with either of them, their supporters are less important to them in this than their own personal egos, just both really shabby people.../but yeah, phew it's over is all and hopefully we won't see so much of either in our media now...

Won't it be brought up in parallels to Brexit?

[Ammi]

Woke up to the best news ever. Knew I would. Dream come true.

...:laugh:...wouldn't wanna be Bill today for sure...

[Northern Monkey]

...:laugh:...wouldn't wanna be Bill today for sure...

He's deffo not getting a blowy this morning:laugh:

[Maru]

Trump got WI

[Ammi]

Won't it be brought up in parallels to Brexit?

..the Brexit referendum wasn't about individual egos though../sorry I don't understand Maru..it has been a bit early in the morning to quick step straight into politics for me though...

[Jamie89]

He's deffo not getting a blowy this morning:laugh:

Not from Hillary anyway :laugh:

[Mokka]

Not from Hillary anyway :laugh:

Was thinking the same thing :hehe:

[Maru]

..the Brexit referendum wasn't about individual egos though../sorry I don't understand Maru..it has been a bit early in the morning to quick step straight into politics for me though...

I'm getting tired too.

What I mean is, won't they bring up America's election when they talk about the Brexit result?... So it won't be the end of hearing about the election on BBC, etc. They've brought up Brexit several times past few days. I'm waiting for the news articles tbh.

[Withano]

Christ haha. People love self-inflicting damage.

[Maru]

Laughing at the guy in the back just dicking around with the Microsoft Surface map.... like hmm *pokes some states*

[Ammi]

7:21am..guest viewing....why can't you delete your account.../taking Trump's win really badly poor thing..:sad:...

[Brother Leon]

796253849497571328

Good night.

[Ammi]

I'm getting tired too.

What I mean is, won't they bring up America's election when they talk about the Brexit result?... So it won't be the end of hearing about the election on BBC, etc. They've brought up Brexit several times past few days. I'm waiting for the news articles tbh.

...well even without a USA election atm, that wasn't about to end real soon either..that'll be an ongoing storyline/plot for a while yet I reckon.../that's one talking point that Trump can't lay claim to ..:laugh:..

[Glenn-C]

America? I don't know her.

[Headie]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZsTeE8xDjb3P2mI/giphy.gif

[Withano]

The best person to lead a country that is mostly full of idiots is an idiot

[arista]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZsTeE8xDjb3P2mI/giphy.gif


Good One H

[arista]

796253849497571328

Good night.


Have a Good rest
I have to go to a meeting soon

[Maru]

Clinton called Trump and conceded to him over the phone

[Jamie89]

Apparently Hillary has conceded to Trump on the phone, according to the BBC feed

[arista]

The best person to lead a country that is mostly full of idiots is an idiot


Take It Easy Fella


Put GMBHD itv on

[Maru]

I feel so terrible for her...

[arista]

I feel so terrible for her...


I don't
I want her to CRY

[Jamie89]

I feel so terrible for her...

Must be so humiliating, I can't imagine

[Glenn-C]

Michelle Obama 2020 who's here for it

[Northern Monkey]

It's crazy.I feel like I'm in a dream


(Maybe cos I've not slept yet)

[arista]

Must be so humiliating, I can't imagine


It was Worse when
her Husband
was getting his todger sucked by a younger women

[Mokka]

It's crazy.I feel like I'm in a dream


(Maybe cos I've not slept yet)

Same... but nightmare

[Ammi]

I don't
I want her to CRY

..whatever floats your boat, I think that's pretty grim tbh.../she'll be crying inside right now, it's just self indulgent and spiteful to want to see that visually...

[Maru]

Must be so humiliating, I can't imagine

She's been so dedicated to it too...

[Withano]

What happens if Trump is found guilty of his crimes? Genuine question?

[UserSince2005]

So now it's legal to grab pussies!?

[RichardG]

TRUMP won???? hahaha wtf

that was... unexpected news to wake up to

[Maru]

TRUMP won???? hahaha wtf

that was... unexpected news to wake up to

ikr!

[Ammi]

It was Worse when
her Husband
was getting his todger sucked by a younger women

..and yet whatever the huge humiliation she's publicly gone through, it would still give you satisfaction to see her tears...tut, tut dear...

[kirklancaster]

Clinton has conceded. Trump making his speech. Seems The Fat Lady has now sang.

[Maru]

Pence get off, we want to hear the fat man sing...

[Maru]

So we can go to sleep

[arista]

..whatever floats your boat, I think that's pretty grim tbh.../she'll be crying inside right now, it's just self indulgent and spiteful to want to see that visually...


No Ammi
you do not understand the Damage she did



Cry Clinton then FECK OFF

[Jamie89]

Pence describing Trump as a 'champion'... sends a shiver down my spine

[Mokka]

Pence get off, we want to hear the fat man sing...

The crowd doesn't seem that keen either

[Ammi]

What happens if Trump is found guilty of his crimes? Genuine question?

...well that was always the thing with either of them as well.../what happens if the President of the USA is charged and found guilty of.../..just really the whole thing has been the most bizarre in all the wrong ways of bizarre...

[Jamie89]

Someone to look up to/admire/respect/follow his lead? I can't :laugh:

[arista]

Someone to look up to/admire/respect/follow his lead? I can't :laugh:


thats OK

[Maru]

This is just so weird

[Northern Monkey]

USA! USA! USA!

[Babayaro.]

It was Worse when
her Husband
was getting his todger sucked by a younger women

:joker:

[Ammi]

No Ammi
you do not understand the Damage she did



Cry Clinton then FECK OFF

..I do understand Arista, but she cries and it doesn't change anything../it's just pointless and spiteful...

[Cal.]

Twat

[Northern Monkey]

Someone to look up to/admire/respect/follow his lead? I can't :laugh:

He can lead us all to the best pussies

[arista]

I posted this first
thanks to India 24X7 Live News a few hours ago

they had all the numbers up on a Massive board

[Ammi]

Twat

...:laugh:..I love you so much..:love:.. and how you're so good at the long and the short of it.../your best bits being the short of it part...

[Mokka]

He can lead us all to the best pussies

Just spin by Shaun's InColdBlood thread for that :fan:

[Jamie89]

Twat

Post of the thread? :laugh:

[Maru]

Everyone, I apologize we have kept you up all night and for the next four years

[Ross.]

We live in such a bizarre world right now that I'm genuinely not even surprised at this result :laugh:

[Ammi]

He can lead us all to the best pussies

...ooops, locker room bantz...

[Crimson Dynamo]

People seem to have forgotten Reagan. It was a bit like this then

[Ammi]

Everyone, I apologize we have kept you up all night and for the next four years

...:love:../you go get some rest now lady...

[Mokka]

People seem to have forgotten Reagan. It was a bit like this then

I have not forgotten Reagan

[Northern Monkey]

...ooops, locker room bantz...:laugh:

[arista]

I posted this first
thanks to India 24X7 Live News a few hours ago

they had all the numbers up on a Massive board



Reece was shocked
I advised him to go to India 24x7 Live
virgin or sky

[arista]

I have not forgotten Reagan


Yes Ronnie
was Fun


Even went in Prince Songs

[Jamie89]

At least we won't be short of political satire for the next 4 years

[Maru]

Hopefully this won't bring war and social turmoil to SD

[arista]

Michelle Obama 2020 who's here for it


No to Pushy on Food
Hated by Americans


Never Win

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who would have thought a Scotsman would be the leader of the free world��

[Parmy]

Hilton camp sending everyone home. No concession and no speech tonight. Poor stuff.

She will be drunk.

[Samm]

Only if young people voted, This gives me hope in young people <3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwzGxBDUcAQqHmh?format=jpg&name=large

hopefully most of the old people who voted for trump will be dead in 4 years :love:

[Nick.]

hopefully most of the old people who voted for trump will be dead in 4 years :love:

Here for it :clap1: (Trump too for that matter)

[Jamie89]

Only if young people voted, This gives me hope in young people <3

The future's bright, the future's not orange :fc: http://i.imgur.com/efsoBv7.png?1

[Maru]

The future's bright, the future's not orange :fc: http://i.imgur.com/efsoBv7.png?1

Wonder if that orange tone will be back in time for his inauguration

[Ammi]

Hopefully this won't bring war and social turmoil to SD

..of course not, that's been there since the beginning or time..it's part of the structure that builds forums...

[kirklancaster]

the irony of hating Trump and then wishing death on people who don't share your opinions

Exactly. :shrug:

[arista]

N3Yw3FMYH2Q


AMMI
Dig this 1978 Groove Marvin Gaye
remixed later on

[arista]

Exactly. :shrug:


Yes Kirk Dig the Anger Track
from 1978

[Brillopad]

Here for it :clap1: (Trump too for that matter)

Thank god the young don't have any real clout with views like that. And you have the nerve to attack Trump!

[Ammi]

N3Yw3FMYH2Q


AMMI
Dig this 1978 Groove Marvin Gaye
remixed later on

....awwww there is always Marvin, Arista...:lovedup:..

[arista]

....awwww there is always Marvin, Arista...:lovedup:..


Official Motown 2 CD with Remixes - now rare

[Maru]

Alright I need some sleep. Good night all

[Benjamin]

Alright I need some sleep. Good night all

Night, good luck at jury service.

[Ammi]

2 CD with Remixes - now rare

...you need to invite us over to see your music collection some day, Arista.../you do have the greatest of music taste...you're a soul man..:love:..

[Jamie89]

Alright I need some sleep. Good night all

Night Maru

[Ammi]

Alright I need some sleep. Good night all

...night Maru/sleep well..:love:..see how you feel tomorrow../you can think of Hilary and show Mercy or send them to the gallows if you feel like releasing frustrations.../I hope your case isn't too grim or upsetting though...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor TS and his PS4 Pro


:laugh2:

[kirklancaster]

Alright I need some sleep. Good night all

Goodnight Maru.

[kirklancaster]

Poor TS and his PS4 Pro


:laugh2:

:laugh:

[y.winter]

Well, that's funny...

[Brillopad]

Although not a fan of Trump - even he was an improvment on the corrupt Hilary Clinton. Some people act as though she was some kind of saint, when in reality she is intent on power and doesn't care much how she gets it. Trump seemed the only one to have the guts to take her on.

[Kazanne]

I think Trump will surprise people as president,I think his campaign was somewhat bravado,but when it comes down to it,I am hoping for the American people he turns out to be quite good.

[T*]

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[kirklancaster]

I think Trump will surprise people as president,I think his campaign was somewhat bravado,but when it comes down to it,I am hoping for the American people he turns out to be quite good.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: And I will stick my neck out and state that time will prove that he will make a GREAT president.

[Nedusa]

So glad Killary didn't win , WW3 narrowly avoided !!

[Kazanne]

:clap1::clap1::clap1: And I will stick my neck out and state that time will prove that he will make a GREAT president.

I kinda feel that too Kirk :wavey:

[Ammi]

Although not a fan of Trump - even he was an improvment on the corrupt Hilary Clinton. Some people act as though she was some kind of saint, when in reality she is intent on power and doesn't care much how she gets it. Trump seemed the only one to have the guts to take her on.

..I honestly haven't seen anyone on or off the forum in thoughts that she was a saint type person or even that fine a person and not knowing what she stood for etc.../it was only ever which was the 'lesser evil' and America has chosen who they feel is their lesser evil.../let's hope that be careful what you wish for doesn't apply over the next four years...

[Ammi]

So glad Killary didn't win , WW3 narrowly avoided !!

...good to see you pop in Nedusa..:love:..

[Vanessa]

Well done to Donald Trump. :clap1:I quite like him, because he's very direct and he says what he thinks. Used to like Clinton, but the emails scandal has made me a bit wary of her.

[Black Dagger]

Why are **** people allowed to be happy.

[Raph]

Make america great again!

[Raph]

I actually lowkey feel safer when thinking about moving back to the US, now that Trump has won presidency. Gives a voice to the people who the liberals shunned so badly, and I say this as a liberal.

[Vanessa]

Trump youngest son looked so tired when his dad was doing his speech. Poor lad just wanted to go to bed! :joker:

[Brillopad]

...good to see you pop in Nedusa..:love:..

I agree on the lesser of the two evils. It just came across to me that some people were quick to attack Trump for his 'crimes' but made little or no mention of hers.

I think many young voters blindly supported her simply because of Trump's immigation views, with little thought for the kind of person she acutally is. There are worse 'crimes' than not supporting imigration and being generally obnoxious.

I find her much more calculating and intimidating than him.

[Northern Monkey]

I think Trump will surprise people as president,I think his campaign was somewhat bravado,but when it comes down to it,I am hoping for the American people he turns out to be quite good.

Yeah i think i'm warming to him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump youngest son looked so tired when his dad was doing his speech. Poor lad just wanted to go to bed! :joker:

I know the poor wee soul looked exhausted.


Lovely to see Donald's love for his parents too

:love:

[Liam-]

A racist old man has just proven that money is power in the most trollish way possible, yay America.

[Northern Monkey]

So glad Killary didn't win , WW3 narrowly avoided !!

Too right.That woman is dangerous:clap1:
She has an extremely unhealthy hatred of Russia

[Brillopad]

A racist old man has just proven that money is power in the most trollish way possible, yay America.

What rot, it was about immigration and had nothing to do with his money. Blimey the Clintons have plenty of that and more power. Strange conclusion.

[Ammi]

I agree on the lesser of the two evils. It just came across to me that some people were quick to attack Trump for his 'crimes' but made little or no mention of hers.

I think many young voters blindly supported her simply because of Trump's immigation views, with little thought for the kind of person she acutally is. There are worse 'crimes' than not supporting imigration and being generally obnoxious.

I find her much more calculating and intimidating than him.

..they have I think been talked about quite equally, but they're just so different is all in terms of 'controversial' media talking points and it's very much been more a media thing for this election particularly...the general public react to media but they don't always have the same interest to research, do you know what I mean..?..(not in any defence of her because I personally have to see qualities I admire in someone and have respect for them..)...but I do sometimes wonder the general depth of corruption that could always be prevalent in USA government..(and the same with many governments obviously..)...could it be no better or no worse than with Hilary, but the only difference being the front-person themselves representing something that is warmed to, so over-looked/accepted as it were...but with the Clintons, Hilary and Bill..they're so disliked that it's been delved in and exposed because of their lack of popularity...

[kirklancaster]

So glad Killary didn't win , WW3 narrowly avoided !!

Hi Nedusa - Come back please.

[kirklancaster]

A racist old man has just proven that money is power in the most trollish way possible, yay America.

But there is numerous genuine tape and video footage evidence around Liam which irrefutably shows Hillary Clinton being xenophobic and racist - about Mexicans and Blacks among others - and SHE wanted a wall between he USA and Mexico long before Trump espoused it.

She also is STEEPED in wealth.

[Nedusa]

...good to see you pop in Nedusa..:love:..

Yes I thought I would pop in and say hello, thanks Ammi

How is everyone on here , still putting the world to rights I guess... lol

[kirklancaster]

I actually lowkey feel safer when thinking about moving back to the US, now that Trump has won presidency. Gives a voice to the people who the liberals shunned so badly, and I say this as a liberal.

So refreshing to hear a voice of genuine reason and moderation among all the hysteria on both sides.

[Nedusa]

Hi Nedusa - Come back please.

Hi Kirk hope all's well, thought I would re-engage with the debate for a while anyway.....

[Ammi]

Yes I thought I would pop in and say hello, thanks Ammi

How is everyone on here , still putting the world to rights I guess... lol

...yeah you know us, we all know how it should be done Nedusa..:laugh:...we have that world ticking along smoothly atm...(..ish/sort of/ooops..)...you ok, everything good with you...?...

[kirklancaster]

Hi Kirk hope all's well, thought I would re-engage with the debate for a while anyway.....

I'm OK Nedusa, but I have genuinely missed you on here. I wish you would come on more regularly.

[Amy Jade]

Tragic result.

[Nedusa]

A racist old man has just proven that money is power in the most trollish way possible, yay America.

I've always said that Americans deserve everything their *******ed Political system offers and this totally proves my point.

What type of leader should your typical slightly fat, slightly racist, money obsessed American have ?

Well let me think hmmmn.... oh yes I think exactly the one they just elected.

Enjoy.............

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tragic result.

incorrect, its democracy at work

[Niamh.]

The world is going backwards, I despair for this generation

[Amy Jade]

incorrect, its democracy at work

I can still think the result is utterly tragic.

[Niamh.]

incorrect, its democracy at work

I can still think the result is utterly tragic.

According to another thread on here more people actually voted Hillary anyway

[Shaun]

I only hope that Trump is so media-savvy and surrounded in the past 30 years by progressive attitudes that some of it will have rubbed off on him. I don't think I've seen anything directly homophobic from him in the campaign, but of course his Veep is a huge problem. That said, I don't think the LGBT are in danger. Women... yeah this is a kick in the teeth to them but he does seem at least apologetic of what he said and I'm not sure what else can come that'd increase his sexist reputation, so that's a positive I guess? :laugh: good god at the idea of Melania being a first lady though...

Obviously the biggest worry with him is race relations, and standing aside and letting Russia do what they like. But then, the countries Russia seem to be quietly annexing seem 80% in favour of rejoining Russia anyway.

I don't think Trump being in power will be any more miserable than the deadlock in the houses that preceded him, however the Republicans having total control now (as I understand?) is worrying. I do hope he keeps his word and delivers jobs to those rural states that are desperate for them. I just don't really see how he's going to have the power or the insight to achieve it.

[Liberty4eva]

I've always said that Americans deserve everything their *******ed Political system offers and this totally proves my point.

What type of leader should your typical slightly fat, slightly racist, money obsessed American have ?

Well let me think hmmmn.... oh yes I think exactly the one they just elected.

Enjoy.............

:shocked::shocked::shocked:
Today people are really revealing their true feelings towards my country. Trump overcame the media, the establishment, everything to be president and he worked very hard for it.

[Ninastar]

I only hope that Trump is so media-savvy and surrounded in the past 30 years by progressive attitudes that some of it will have rubbed off on him. I don't think I've seen anything directly homophobic from him in the campaign, but of course his Veep is a huge problem. That said, I don't think the LGBT are in danger. Women... yeah this is a kick in the teeth to them but he does seem at least apologetic of what he said and I'm not sure what else can come that'd increase his sexist reputation, so that's a positive I guess? :laugh: good god at the idea of Melania being a first lady though...

Obviously the biggest worry with him is race relations, and standing aside and letting Russia do what they like. But then, the countries Russia seem to be quietly annexing seem 80% in favour of rejoining Russia anyway.

I don't think Trump being in power will be any more miserable than the deadlock in the houses that preceded him, however the Republicans having total control now (as I understand?) is worrying. I do hope he keeps his word and delivers jobs to those rural states that are desperate for them. I just don't really see how he's going to have the power or the insight to achieve it.

I agree with a lot of this. Well said :love:

[Niamh.]

I only hope that Trump is so media-savvy and surrounded in the past 30 years by progressive attitudes that some of it will have rubbed off on him. I don't think I've seen anything directly homophobic from him in the campaign, but of course his Veep is a huge problem. That said, I don't think the LGBT are in danger. Women... yeah this is a kick in the teeth to them but he does seem at least apologetic of what he said and I'm not sure what else can come that'd increase his sexist reputation, so that's a positive I guess? :laugh: good god at the idea of Melania being a first lady though...

Obviously the biggest worry with him is race relations, and standing aside and letting Russia do what they like. But then, the countries Russia seem to be quietly annexing seem 80% in favour of rejoining Russia anyway.

I don't think Trump being in power will be any more miserable than the deadlock in the houses that preceded him, however the Republicans having total control now (as I understand?) is worrying. I do hope he keeps his word and delivers jobs to those rural states that are desperate for them. I just don't really see how he's going to have the power or the insight to achieve it.

When I was in Texas last week I got talking to a Mexican man who has lived in the states all his life, he said he'd never experienced racism towards him until the last few weeks, that's the scary part, it seems like this is now some sort of validation for racist to crawl out of the woodwork, that's scary.

[Shaun]

Yeah his own refusal to condemn the actions of his supporters is a huge problem. And often overlooked by the same people who'll accuse Jeremy Corbyn of condoning antisemitism.

[Amy Jade]

I feel sick for women in general he clearly has no respect for women, you can see that just watching him on the apprentice - under his rule won't abortion be banned too?

[Liberty4eva]

I feel sick for women in general he clearly has no respect for women, you can see that just watching him on the apprentice - under his rule won't abortion be banned too?

His position is it should be a state's issue and not a federal one. He is pro-life though.

[Ammi]

Yeah his own refusal to condemn the actions of his supporters is a huge problem. And often overlooked by the same people who'll accuse Jeremy Corbyn of condoning antisemitism.

..it's not just refusal to address and condemn..it's also the encouragement of in his campaign speeches in offering to pay legal fees to those who felt violence was appropriate.../go on then people, you have my blessing and I'll help in any way I can...

[Niamh.]

I feel sick for women in general he clearly has no respect for women, you can see that just watching him on the apprentice - under his rule won't abortion be banned too?

Same, this is what I mean about the world going backwards, I fear for my daughters generation tbh. If you have the leader of the "free world" being a sexist pig, then how is anything moving forward?

[T*]

Idk what to feel
No 'WW3' apparently and we're a bit safer but discrimination and misogyny still high and **** but... we still need to live our lives i guess
It just is ****ing bizarre to hear 'Reality TV star Donald Trump has been elected President'
All seems a bit Black Mirror

[Niamh.]

Idk what to feel
No 'WW3' apparently and we're a bit safer but discrimination and misogyny still high and **** but... we still need to live our lives i guess
It just is ****ing bizarre to hear 'Reality TV star Donald Trump has been elected President'
All seems a bit Black Mirror

It really does :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Oh dear, for me just a bit more evidence the World is really going mad, the harder,more heartless and extreme divisive tones seemingly attracting the support.

Having said that, Trumps victory speech was better than I expected but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am happy at this result.
For me this is a backward step by the USA and in fact a dangerous one too.

Just really glad I do not live there today.
Obviously let's see where he goes and what he really does now or is he also going to follow a different path now in power from what he advocated in his awful and really nasty campaign.
If the path he goes down is far away from most of what he said in his campaign then possibly things will not be so bad after all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

think back on who we have elected as leaders of the UK...


How many did we get right and were very good at their job?


Lets make a list...

[Niamh.]

Conor McGregor reacts to the Presidential results :

“I just could not give a bollocks, with all due respect, the whole thing is weird to me,” said McGregor. ” The public are just brainwashed into thinking something is going to happen with this one.

“I don’t think either of those two contenders, or whatever they are, have power in anything, anyway.”

[kirklancaster]

I only hope that Trump is so media-savvy and surrounded in the past 30 years by progressive attitudes that some of it will have rubbed off on him. I don't think I've seen anything directly homophobic from him in the campaign, but of course his Veep is a huge problem. That said, I don't think the LGBT are in danger. Women... yeah this is a kick in the teeth to them but he does seem at least apologetic of what he said and I'm not sure what else can come that'd increase his sexist reputation, so that's a positive I guess? :laugh: good god at the idea of Melania being a first lady though...

Obviously the biggest worry with him is race relations, and standing aside and letting Russia do what they like. But then, the countries Russia seem to be quietly annexing seem 80% in favour of rejoining Russia anyway.

I don't think Trump being in power will be any more miserable than the deadlock in the houses that preceded him, however the Republicans having total control now (as I understand?) is worrying. I do hope he keeps his word and delivers jobs to those rural states that are desperate for them. I just don't really see how he's going to have the power or the insight to achieve it.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: A REALLY great, balanced, and insightful post.

[Crimson Dynamo]

When I was in Texas last week I got talking to a Mexican man who has lived in the states all his life, he said he'd never experienced racism towards him until the last few weeks, that's the scary part, it seems like this is now some sort of validation for racist to crawl out of the woodwork, that's scary.

well that is very anecdotal evidence and it could be coincidental

#blamebrexit

[Niamh.]

well that is very anecdotal evidence and it could be coincidental

#blamebrexit

Yes it is anecdotal but I like to hear peoples personal experiences too, seems very coincidental for that man though

[smudgie]

Wonder if the plans are in for a Trump Towers in the centre of Moscow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes it is anecdotal but I like to hear peoples personal experiences too, seems very coincidental for that man though

or he just attributes it to that as it makes it a better story

[Niamh.]

or he just attributes it to that as it makes it a better story

Well considering Trumps comments regarding Mexicans and the fact people still voted him president it seems a logical conclusion for the guy to make....imho of course

[Josiah.]

I am so not happy right now. Even at 17 years old, I'm already thinking of either staying in Pittsburgh, or moving to Canada, or maybe joining Ben in New Zealand. This is too sad and ridiculous to comprehend right now.

[Nicky91]

Congratulations Donald Trump :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:


you did it without the help of celebrities :)



omg Hillary being a bad loser, i wonder if she fainted again :joker: :joker:

[Livia]

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

[Crimson Dynamo]

anyone want to help me with my list of successful British PMs who we elected who were good at their job?


anyone?

[Niamh.]

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

Is unemployment really a problem in the States though?, when I was there it seemed like every second place we went to had "hiring Now" signs and the people we spoke to said there were so many jobs available

[caprimint]

I don't really know much about this at all (all the things Trump/Clinton stand for and are against etc), but what I do know is that Trump had a hell of a lot of anti votes going into this so congrats to him on winning, he must have had a whole lotta support too. Hopefully he is able to prove people wrong (though really, people are always gonna moan about things and no PM/President will get everything right).

[Liberty4eva]

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

I really the position that cost Hillary the most was her desire to bring in more Syrian refugees.

[Niamh.]

A look into the future :worry:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947649_10154628046058563_3879672069656318432_n.j pg?oh=a76b79b5461407920b5cd90bd64e6b61&oe=58CE5CC2

[Livia]

Is unemployment really a problem in the States though?, when I was there it seemed like every second place we went to had "hiring Now" signs and the people we spoke to said there were so many jobs available

There are plenty of places in the US where unemployment is particularly rife; places like Detroit, for instance, with the collapse of the car industry and Washington State where fewer and fewer people are employed in the timber industry. Even in affluent states there are pockets of huge unemployment and deprivation.

[user104658]

Conor McGregor reacts to the Presidential results :

“I just could not give a bollocks, with all due respect, the whole thing is weird to me,” said McGregor. ” The public are just brainwashed into thinking something is going to happen with this one.

“I don’t think either of those two contenders, or whatever they are, have power in anything, anyway.”

I actually agree with the latter part of that but I also don't think it's that simple. *tinfoil hat time* I don't believe in democracy, particularly. I think there are things going on behind the scenes that dictate the "flow of events" and that most of the surface politics we actually see is distraction / window dressing. Not "illuminati" in the traditional sense of the word; that concept is too well defined which is against the point. It's unseen. It's little shunts, nudges, leaks, tweaks, that result in seeminly miniscule changes in political gravity that end up completely altering political tides.

The reason I only partly agree that it's not meaningless is that I believe current "unbelievable" (except actually, obvious, if you've been paying attention) political events, like Brexit and Trumpit, are a symptom of / an integral part of those changing tides. It *is* weird. There is WEIRD **** going on that shouldn't technically be politically possible and shocks people every time and yet, it's becoming consistent enough to be spotted a mile off. It doesn't feel usual. It feels like chess pieces sliding into place in obscure ways, and us casual players can't see the checkmate coming and are confused about those moves. I guarantee there are more "shocks" to come in global politics and eventually, we'll see how they all fit together.

One thing I can guarantee is that it won't be anything good for the "common man".

[Livia]

A look into the future :worry:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947649_10154628046058563_3879672069656318432_n.j pg?oh=a76b79b5461407920b5cd90bd64e6b61&oe=58CE5CC2

Now that would be a reason to choose to live here rather than there.

[Josiah.]

Personally, I'd rather have RuPaul as President in 2020.
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/imagebuzz/2008/12/16/15/59fe5106ecc154cea787e978bc62be59.jpg

[Niamh.]

There are plenty of places in the US where unemployment is particularly rife; places like Detroit, for instance, with the collapse of the car industry and Washington State where fewer and fewer people are employed in the timber industry. Even in affluent states there are pockets of huge unemployment and deprivation.

Clearly I'm no expert, I'm just going on my quick peek into the state of the states :laugh:

While we were in New Orleans actually we got totaly grilled by an older RVing gentlman on how people our age could afford to come over there and RV, asking us what jobs we had and how we could afford stuff on our wages etc so rude :laugh:

I actually agree with the latter part of that but I also don't think it's that simple. *tinfoil hat time* I don't believe in democracy, particularly. I think there are things going on behind the scenes that dictate the "flow of events" and that most of the surface politics we actually see is distraction / window dressing. Not "illuminati" in the traditional sense of the word; that concept is too well defined which is against the point. It's unseen. It's little shunts, nudges, leaks, tweaks, that result in seeminly miniscule changes in political gravity that end up completely altering political tides.

The reason I only partly agree that it's not meaningless is that I believe current "unbelievable" (except actually, obvious, if you've been paying attention) political events, like Brexit and Trumpit, are a symptom of / an integral part of those changing tides. It *is* weird. There is WEIRD **** going on that shouldn't technically be politically possible and shocks people every time and yet, it's becoming consistent enough to be spotted a mile off. It doesn't feel usual. It feels like chess pieces sliding into place in obscure ways, and us casual players can't see the checkmate coming and are confused about those moves. I guarantee there are more "shocks" to come in global politics and eventually, we'll see how they all fit together.

One thing I can guarantee is that it won't be anything good for the "common man".

mmhmm once again i totally agree with you

[Livia]

Clearly I'm no expert, I'm just going on my quick peek into the state of the states :laugh:

While we were in New Orleans actually we got totaly grilled by an older RVing gentlman on how people our age could afford to come over there and RV, asking us what jobs we had and how we could afford stuff on our wages etc so rude :laugh:


Wow, what a dickhead! LOL... I hope you taught him some new Irish words.

[Niamh.]

Wow, what a dickhead! LOL... I hope you taught him some new Irish words.

I think alot of people over there think Ireland is a third world country or something :laugh:

[arista]

Livia BLAME the CLINTON's

[Mokka]

I actually agree with the latter part of that but I also don't think it's that simple. *tinfoil hat time* I don't believe in democracy, particularly. I think there are things going on behind the scenes that dictate the "flow of events" and that most of the surface politics we actually see is distraction / window dressing. Not "illuminati" in the traditional sense of the word; that concept is too well defined which is against the point. It's unseen. It's little shunts, nudges, leaks, tweaks, that result in seeminly miniscule changes in political gravity that end up completely altering political tides.

The reason I only partly agree that it's not meaningless is that I believe current "unbelievable" (except actually, obvious, if you've been paying attention) political events, like Brexit and Trumpit, are a symptom of / an integral part of those changing tides. It *is* weird. There is WEIRD **** going on that shouldn't technically be politically possible and shocks people every time and yet, it's becoming consistent enough to be spotted a mile off. It doesn't feel usual. It feels like chess pieces sliding into place in obscure ways, and us casual players can't see the checkmate coming and are confused about those moves. I guarantee there are more "shocks" to come in global politics and eventually, we'll see how they all fit together.

One thing I can guarantee is that it won't be anything good for the "common man".

Keep wearing that tin foil hat TS... you make sense to me

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/09/08/article-3918258-3A32CE7900000578-463_964x831.jpg

Utter Bliss LT, Kirk , TS

[the truth]

Trump will be a good president this is a good result for democracy
He will shake the corrupt self serving paid off stinking senators to their core.
He will fight their endless march to globalisation
He will maintain social security, he will protect ex soldiers
He will attempt to have a dialogue with the ruskies
He will whack big tariffs on those exporting jobs and on cheap illegal chinese crap
He will rebuild the industries and the infrastructure
He will loosen some of the insane red tape on small to medium businesses and lower their taxes and rates and allow them to compete with the corporations
He will protect religious rights
He will maintain all the same rights for LGBT
as for sexism and racism? people throw those words around like confetti and forget the meaning.. the man has employed over 10,000 women/workers from outside america? He has women in top positions right across the 500+ big companies he has owned or part owned including his daughter as the head of his property empire
People say oh hes been bankrupt? when youre involved in over 500 big companies, the fact 11 of them went bust is a good average
He will attempt to wipe out ISIS whilst looking to reduce the middle east wars
He will not cowtow to special interests, including hard line radical muslims or hard line radical zionists...he will be his own man and will not be paid off, the man has balls
abortion he wants to hand it to the individual states. outside of health risks and rape, he favours putting a stricter time limit on abortion and investing billions into pro life choices for mothers and fathers to be. giving them options such as having the child and fostering it out,adoption. millions regret abortions, so I agree to pump in billions to give parents who may be struggling or poor or on drugs or drink or confused or scared or alone...to give them better support in that situation to give them all available choices and information and time and help them come to a well thought out reasoned decision is a very good way forward. the hardline feminist liberal approach , all women can have abortions whenever they like its their body, is at heart dumb self defatist and doesnt help the mother and certainly doesnt help the unborn child

He will protect gun rights as much as I deplore guns, in a nation of 300 million guns I guess youd have to buy one to protect yourself...I do however despair if he wont crack down on qualifying to buy guns and also automatic weapons need to be banned. I think hes plain wrong on that
obamacare. well who knows what the heck he will do with this? obamacare is a must. its insured over 40 miollion poorerst americans, but the premiums and mega high and theyre crippling small businesses so lets hope he can improve this
he will reduce the insane 20 trillion debt
He has an amazing family and incredible kids which is the real reason why he became president...if we all had families like that around us we too could run for president
in the end hes not the hard right nutjob some fear, hes not going to launch nukes, he wont enslave us to TTIP Nafta or the EU. he will bring jobs back to america

[Crimson Dynamo]

Great to once again have a US President who loves the UK

[Brillopad]

Oh dear, for me just a bit more evidence the World is really going mad, the harder,more heartless and extreme divisive tones seemingly attracting the support.

Having said that, Trumps victory speech was better than I expected but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am happy at this result.
For me this is a backward step by the USA and in fact a dangerous one too.

Just really glad I do not live there today.
Obviously let's see where he goes and what he really does now or is he also going to follow a different path now in power from what he advocated in his awful and really nasty campaign.
If the path he goes down is far away from most of what he said in his campaign then possibly things will not be so bad after all.

I don't know what you have been watching but Clinton's campaign was pretty nasty, just like her.

I don't know why you would think having Hilary as president would be a good thing for any country if you respect standards, honesty and doing the best for the country rather than what is best for an individual's political career. She has demonstrated dishonesty and a over-riding desire for power. She doesn't give 2 hoots for the average Amercian citizen.

[Josiah.]

I realized that the Electoral College vote is next month, which means that electors will vote for the President. This means that if enough of the swings states change their votes, Hillary will break the glass ceiling and win the presidency.

[ArgyESC]

Today is a dark day for humanity.

[arista]

I realized that the Electoral College vote is next month, which means that electors will vote for the President. This means that if enough of the swings states change their votes, Hillary will break the glass ceiling and win the presidency.


Stop dreaming
Keep you Feet On The ground fella


She has said
NO More

ready to piss off

Out Of IT



Keep It Real

[arista]

Great to once again have a US President who loves the UK



Positive LT


I am glad you are on this Forum
so many Socialists
it makes me SICK

[Mokka]

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? :shrug: ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter

[Niamh.]

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? :shrug: ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter

As a woman, I'm horrified that any other woman would vote for him tbqh

[Mokka]

As a woman, I'm horrified that any other woman would vote for him tbqh

Rebublican women did... in droves

[Niamh.]

Rebublican women did... in droves

I also don't get this absolute loyalty the average joe has to a political party

[arista]

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/1440497573575-cached.jpg?w=748&h=498&crop=1


LT Simpsons Great writers Predicted THIS
video
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/09/the-simpsons-predicted-president-trump-16-years-ago-as-a-warning-to-america-6245205/

[arista]

As a woman, I'm horrified that any other woman would vote for him tbqh


Ann Coulter was on GMBHD itv
for 2 days now


I could give her one
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5604306521_8955e66cdc.jpg

We have Democracy now



Feel The Force

[Crimson Dynamo]

@ MODS

asking with a :worry: sign where a member is as a light hearted joke as that person hates Trump is not baiting



for f ucks sake get a grip

Its light hearted taking the piss, am I to report every time some takes the piss out of me??

Go ahead and ban me if you like but this is just ridiculous and spiteful

[arista]

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? :shrug: ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter


They started Shouting
at the LED Screens with CNN HD Live


Fecking BONKERS

[GiRTh]

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? :shrug: ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voterThe common consensus was that there were not enough deplorables for Trump to win. They got that totally wrong.

Fascinating result but what now for HRC. The American people are clearly telling her something with another rejection. Will she try again in 2020 where Kanye will probably beat her too. Time for her to pack it in for good IMO. Her presence on the ballot does very little that is positive imo particularly when she rallies all her friends to help her. Talking of which, I'd like to know waht the likes of Donna Brezile and Debbie Wasserman Shultz are now thinking after they tried their damndest to get their friend elected and she still couldnt win. Most polls had Bernie sanders beating Trump easily.

[arista]

Girth
You and I knew
he could Win


BLAME CLINTONS

[Mokka]

I also don't get this absolute loyalty the average joe has to a political party

Actually, i wouldn't say that is what happened yesterday. Main stream rich rebublicans flocked from trump for weeks... what you don't understand is the high amount of uneducated masses who actually have the same philosophies as trump in rural america....and what everyone got wrong was how that had seeped into the norther states, like Michigan, that lost it for Hilary in the end. Michael Moore called it in the end....

And when I say uneducated masses, i am not trying to insult...those were the statistics i was hearing yesterday about exit polls.

[Mokka]

The common consensus was that there were not enough deplorables for Trump to win. They got that totally wrong.

Fascinating result but what now for HRC. The American people are clearly telling her something with another rejection. Will she try again in 2020 where Kanye will probably beat her too. Time for her to pack it in for good IMO. Her presence on the ballot does very little that is positive imo particularly when she rallies all her friends to help her. Talking of which, I'd like to know waht the likes of Donna Brezile and Debbie Wasserman Shultz are now thinking after they tried their damndest to get their friend elected and she still couldnt win. Most polls had Bernie sanders beating Trump easily.

No...she is done now.... barring any recount turn around. She won't appear on any ballot again

[Vicky.]

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

[Niamh.]

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

agree with that, big time

[arista]

"cannot see this as a good
thing but am open to
my mind being changed.
Congratulations to Trump I guess."


You Are Most Wise Vicky

[arista]

Trump is Half Scottish


Ref : SNP MP on Ch5HD AM Live show
today


I record it

[Tom4784]

The American public are making the same mistakes as Germany did in the 1930's. It's honestly soul destroying how wilfully ignorant people can be.

'Let's not elect someone who has troubles with her email but an alleged child rapist is A-okay!'

JFC. America is cancelled, it deserves what it's going to get with a Trump Administration.

[arista]

The American public are making the same mistakes as Germany did in the 1930's. It's honestly soul destroying how wilfully ignorant people can be.

'Let's not elect someone who has troubles with her email but an alleged child rapist is A-okay!'

JFC. America is cancelled, it deserves what it's going to get with a Trump Administration.


NO Dezzy
its Pure Democracy

I hope I am in you Next Terror TIBB story
as that can have the Fantastic 1930's
Black Man beat Hitlers Runners
he turned his back at the Olympics
before WW2

Great Black Runner

[Crimson Dynamo]

Calling millions of Americans 'willfully ignorant' is frankly disgusting

Smh

[arista]

Calling millions of Americans 'willfully ignorant' is frankly disgusting

Smh

Yes
sorry to post again
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/09/08/article-3918258-3A32CE7900000578-463_964x831.jpg

[Tom4784]

NO Dezzy
its Pure Democracy

I hope I am in you Next Terror TIBB story
as that can have the Fantastic 1930's
Black Man beat Hitlers Runners
he turned his back at the Olympics
before WW2

Great Black Runner

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.

Calling millions of Americans 'willfully ignorant' is frankly disgusting

Smh

Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

[Cal.]

Trump's vice wants to put gays in prison for applying for a marriage licence that's so ****ed up

[Black Dagger]

The world is going backwards, I despair for this generation

The younger generation were left wing in both this election and our 2015 election, so I suppose that can be something to be possibly hopeful about I guess? I mean as left as you can be with Clinton.

[Black Dagger]

Trump's vice wants to put gays in prison for applying for a marriage licence that's so ****ed up

He wants to send us all to conversion camps as well <3...

BUT GAYS4TRUMP and all that.

[Tom4784]

Let's just hope for a swift impeachment and a do over. He's going to **** up before long, it's inevitable.

[EspeonBB]

Lisa will save us in 2020!
http://media.yourdailydish.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/SimpTrump_Feature.jpg

[Tom4784]

He wants to send us all to conversion camps as well <3...

BUT GAYS4TRUMP and all that.

Like I was saying before, people bought into the soundbites.

Trump won the election just by throwing out keywords like 'Isis', Muslim', 'Mexican', 'Immigrants'. I doubt the people who voted for him knew what they were actually doing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Like I was saying before, people bought into the soundbites.

Trump won the election just by throwing out keywords like 'Isis', Muslim', 'Mexican', 'Immigrants'. I doubt the people who voted for him knew what they were actually doing.

And your evidence for this is what?

[EspeonBB]

I feel kinda sorry for Hillary tbh. Losing is one thing, but losing to Trump is just embarrassing

[Brillopad]

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.



Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

Exactly who is 'ignorant' is debatable and simply a matter of opinion.

Comparing Trump and anyone who voted for him to the Nazis is typical over-the-top behaviour we have came to see during both Brexit and Trump v Clinton.

Personally I feel that anyone who believes that Clinton is guilty simply of 'writing a few emails' is not exactly riding high above the 'ignorant'.

[kirklancaster]

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

:worship: Every word TRUE.

[user104658]

Trump won the election just by throwing out keywords like 'Isis', Muslim', 'Mexican', 'Immigrants'. I doubt the people who voted for him knew what they were actually doing.

I agree with this but I think you can actually take it as a positive sign... ... ... campaign bluster; he knew the voters he was targeting. I think there will be some issues when it comes to Islam, inevitably (and globally) but the rest of it I don't think there's actually a huge cause for alarm. I don't think he cares about sexuality; he just knows that his core audience does. I don't think he cares about abortion; same story. Much of his "passion" is really fake. Not much chance of him actually acting on it.

[Tom4784]

And your evidence for this is what?

Throwing out your go to line because you have no actual counter argument isn't going to work here. I won't take what you say seriously if you don't actually believe what you are arguing for.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.



Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

Are you really justifying it based on your personal opinion only?

really?

You claim to know why MILLIONS of people voted now?

just wow

:shocked:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Throwing out your go to line because you have no actual counter argument isn't going to work here. I won't take what you say seriously if you don't actually believe what you are arguing for.
Ill take that as

"I have none"

[Niamh.]

Trump's vice wants to put gays in prison for applying for a marriage licence that's so ****ed up

And wants to take money from HIV research and put it towards gay conversion..........what century are we living in again???

[Tom4784]

Exactly who is 'ignorant' is debatable and simply a matter of opinion.

Comparing Trump and anyone who voted for him to the Nazis is typical over-the-top behaviour we have came to see during both Brexit and Trump v Clinton.

Personally I feel that anyone who believes that Clinton is guilty simply of 'writing a few emails' is not exactly riding high above the 'ignorant'.

Child. Rapist.

If you're going to insist on riding the E-mail train then that must mean you think the email business is worse than the President-elect allegedly being a child rapist. You can't harp on about the emails but ignore the serious allegations against Trump.

[Niamh.]

The younger generation were left wing in both this election and our 2015 election, so I suppose that can be something to be possibly hopeful about I guess? I mean as left as you can be with Clinton.

Oh yeah, when I say I despair for them, I mean I feel bad that they're going to have bear the burden of these kind of mistakes

[Tom4784]

Ill take that as

"I have none"

Not going to work LT. You need new material.

[EspeonBB]

Trump's vice wants to put gays in prison for applying for a marriage licence that's so ****ed up

I doubt this will actually happen but who knows considering Republicans have control of the Presidency and Congress :worry:

Abortion rights will definitely be set back too

[Rob!]

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

This. I could see it coming a mile off.


But I'm horrified. Absolutly horrified. And scared. This is a man who has made such hateful statements about women, muslims, the LGBT community and the world in general. It's another example of fear and hate mongering prevailing and the public'a phobias and bigotry being taken example of. We really are at one of the darkest points in our lifetime.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not going to work LT. You need new material.

I am happy to wait while you try and justify this statement below:

"Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant."

Please provide the members with the evidence you have to support this



Ill put the kettle on meantime

[Cherie]

I think alot of people over there think Ireland is a third world country or something :laugh:

We met up with cousins in Boston earlier in the year and they were moaning about not being served by Irish people when they were in Ireland :umm2: considering their granddad emigrated in the 40s to the US I thought it a bit ironic

[Niamh.]

We met up with cousins in Boston earlier in the year and they were moaning about not being served by Irish people when they were in Ireland :umm2: considering their granddad emigrated in the 40s to the US I thought it a bit ironic

:laugh:

[EspeonBB]

Wait @ Hillary winning the popular vote

This is like Bush vs. Gore 2.0 :(

[Brillopad]

Child. Rapist.

If you're going to insist on riding the E-mail train then that must mean you think the email business is worse than the President-elect allegedly being a child rapist. You can't harp on about the emails but ignore the serious allegations against Trump.

Allegedly being the operative word. btw you were the one harping on about the emails.

There have been many accusations laid at her door, including how she was complicit in a decision to remove security from an embassy in Iraq/Iran which led to innocent Amercians being murdered. No doubt the death of a few working-class Amercians didn't stop her sleeping at night.

She is ambitious to the point of corruption. What was it you were saying about the nazis. I see more correlation with her than him.

Not someone I would want ruling my country - even Trump is preferable to her.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

BREAKING: EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE OF ISIS FOLLOWING TRUMP VICTORY

http://i.imgur.com/RZOUzqi.gif

[Tom4784]

Allegedly being the operative word. btw you were the one harping on about the emails.

There have been many accusations laid at her door, including how she was complicit in a decision to remove security from an embassy in Iraq/Iran which led to innocent Amercians being murdered. No doubt the death of a few working-class Amercians didn't stop her sleeping at night.

She is ambitious to the point of corruption. What was it you were saying about the nazis. I see more correlation with her than him.

Not someone I would want ruling my country - even Trump is preferable to her.

All leaders are corrupt it's naive to think otherwise. A corrupt leader is preferable to a moron.

Alleged or not, that case still has a court date which is more than can be said for any of the accusations thrown at Hillary.

[jaxie]

Child. Rapist.

If you're going to insist on riding the E-mail train then that must mean you think the email business is worse than the President-elect allegedly being a child rapist. You can't harp on about the emails but ignore the serious allegations against Trump.

I have to say that statement is not proved and while I'm no fan of Trump, it is very reckless to treat those kind of accusations as fact until they are proved by a court of law.

[jaxie]

BREAKING: EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE OF ISIS FOLLOWING TRUMP VICTORY

http://i.imgur.com/RZOUzqi.gif

I didn't realise they were also a boy band. :shocked:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have to say that statement is not proved and while I'm no fan of Trump, it is very reckless to treat those kind of accusations as fact until they are proved by a court of law.

:clap1:

[Tom4784]

I have to say that statement is not proved and while I'm no fan of Trump, it is very reckless to treat those kind of accusations as fact until they are proved by a court of law.

Yet you are okay with the Clinton Allegations?

You can't act like the accusations against Hillary are the gospel truth and then downplay the allegations against Trump.

[Jamie89]

Wait @ Hillary winning the popular vote

This is like Bush vs. Gore 2.0 :(

To think the majority of Americans actually voted for Hillary, makes the whole thing even worse. Given Trumps criticism of the system and his accusations of it being rigged, it would have been interesting if it was the other way around. But the system being the way it is has benefited him greatly here so of course there mustn't be anything wrong with it after all :rolleyes:

[Brother Leon]

Still can't believe Hilary sent some lackey out to give her crying supporters some hope and send them home, while she was conceding on the phone. Shows why so many people had a hard time believing she really cares about you once your usefulness is over.

[Shaun]

Allegedly being the operative word. btw you were the one harping on about the emails.

There have been many accusations laid at her door, including how she was complicit in a decision to remove security from an embassy in Iraq/Iran which led to innocent Amercians being murdered. No doubt the death of a few working-class Amercians didn't stop her sleeping at night.

She is ambitious to the point of corruption. What was it you were saying about the nazis. I see more correlation with her than him.

Not someone I would want ruling my country - even Trump is preferable to her.

The thing I've never understood about this line of reasoning is that the criticisms of her actions whilst in various state offices are obviously subject to scrutiny but then the assumption that Donald Trump would've handled everything absolutely differently and Always Done The Right Thing™ is just incredibly naive. I understand the motives behind anti-establishment voting but the figures that people are placing their faith in - billionaires from birth with no experience of real working struggles, let alone global diplomacy - is just so so bizarre.

[Livia]

I wondered how long it would take for someone to compare this result to Nazi Germany and display a deep ignorance of what actually happened in Nazi Germany.

This whole thing of people being shut down because they don't agree with a leftist view is the very thing that's caused the results we've had. So leftists, although you think you're all-knowing and everyone else is a dickhead, take a bow. This is YOUR victory.

[Cherie]

the irony of hating Trump and then wishing death on people who don't share your opinions


:clap1:

Still can't believe Hilary sent some lackey out to give her crying supporters some hope and send them home, while she was conceding on the phone. Shows why so many people had a hard time believing she really cares about you once your usefulness is over.


So poor of her

[user104658]

I wondered how long it would take for someone to compare this result to Nazi Germany and display a deep ignorance of what actually happened in Nazi Germany.

This whole thing of people being shut down because they don't agree with a leftist view is the very thing that's caused the results we've had. So leftists, although you think you're all-knowing and everyone else is a dickhead, take a bow. This is YOUR victory.

I think there are comparisons to be made; as you said yourself, the result is down to a frustrated and ignored population rallying behind something "different" that they don't fully understand.

However, that's not to say that it will be a "Nazi Germany situation" - because as I said before, I don't think Trump truly believes half of the rhetoric he used to gain votes. There's not real "passion" behind his various "-isms" and he's unlikely to actually act on any of them. He will focus primarily on the economy / isolationist ("Made By American Hands With American Stuff!") business idealism that he has, and make a bit of a mess there, and then he'll be voted out in 4 years.

[the truth]

its going to be a pretty mental ride....sadly being such A self funding non paid off maverick theres obvously a chance of assassination

[Livia]

I think there are comparisons to be made; as you said yourself, the result is down to a frustrated and ignored population rallying behind something "different" that they don't fully understand.

However, that's not to say that it will be a "Nazi Germany situation" - because as I said before, I don't think Trump truly believes half of the rhetoric he used to gain votes. There's not real "passion" behind his various "-isms" and he's unlikely to actually act on any of them. He will focus primarily on the economy / isolationist ("Made By American Hands With American Stuff!") business idealism that he has, and make a bit of a mess there, and then he'll be voted out in 4 years.

The people in Germany were starving... no one in the US is starving. I could carry on with a whole host of reasons why this result isn't anything like Nazi Germany but I can't be arsed in going through it all every time there's a result someone doesn't like and we're back to the Nazi Germany comments. I once mentioned Nazi Germany completely in context of what we were discussing and you called Godwin on me. Not now though... now it's okay?

We'll see what he does. People have been making predictions for ages now and they've all been wrong so far.

[Tom4784]

I think the Nazi Germany comparison is apt, I've not seen any good arguments against it.

[Livia]

I think the Nazi Germany comparison is apt, I've not seen any good arguments against it.

I recommend you look into what the Nazis did and how it started. And how wildly it differs from this.

[BBfanUSA]

I hope USA's next election learns a lot from this one.

I hope Dems do. They've gotten a bit too cozy with Hollywood and the elites and forgotten about the middle class and the working class. Bernie Sanders actually warned about this and the Dems didn't listen

Healthcare costs are rising rapidly even with Obamacare, the estate/death tax would doom family farms, EPA regulations, while necessary, would've closed alot of coal mines and miners would have nothing left. If Hillary won, Dems would've left these families in the dust and the gap between poor and rich would've continued, unfortunately the worst possible person in the world, someone who will allow hate to reign.

At least the markets are plunging, and even though there are right now comparisons to Germany back in the 30s and 40s, There's still a good amount of opposition to Trump, even by GOP, in congress. Trump will have a rough road ahead and if he thinks he could still rule with an iron fist. He's got another thing coming.

[kirklancaster]

To think the majority of Americans actually voted for Hillary, makes the whole thing even worse. Given Trumps criticism of the system and his accusations of it being rigged, it would have been interesting if it was the other way around. But the system being the way it is has benefited him greatly here so of course there mustn't be anything wrong with it after all :rolleyes:

I think we need to 'put our own house in order' first Jamie, before we even begin to wonder at the American Electoral System:

UKIP increased its share of the vote in the last General Election by 10 percentage points to a total of 3.9 million and wound up with just one constituency under the UK's first-past-the-post voting system.

Under the D'Hondt system of converting votes to seats, UKIP would have gained 83 seats.

Labour would have won far less seats and the Tories 75 less seats, and the SNP's 50 seat increase would have been just 25.

The unfairness of our current voting system is best illustrated by the fact that UKIP required more than 100 times as many votes for its lone elected MP than the Conservatives did for each of theirs.

Politics is a funny old game Jamie innit? :laugh:

[reece(:]

Pence is more concerning than Trump tbh, he has political background and dangerous views.

[reece(:]

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

I agree, and it's not a wise direction to be going in. All it inspires is divide and vitriol to one another

[arista]

"All leaders are corrupt"


Sure Dezzy
but Clinton Bitch was Stinking Rotten
Fact

[Tom4784]

I recommend you look into what the Nazis did and how it started. And how wildly it differs from this.

I recommend you do the same.

Both the Nazis and Trump came to prominence due to support from a disillusioned public that wanted something 'different.' Both the Nazis and Trump ran on a platform of scapegoating minorities and blaming them for their countries' troubles as a way of garnering support. Both Hitler and Trump's advisors are and were heinous. Both relied on the ignorance of the public to seize power.

Hell, you could possibly make connections of reports of violence from Trump supporters to that of the bursts of violence throughout the Nazi's rise.

There's a lot of significant similarities and focusing on the small differentiating details as a way to discredit it isn't really going to work.

[James]

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.



Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

The Nazis didn't gain absolute power in Germany through a democratic process.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the ageing President, having lost a previous presidential election, and the Nazis dismantled democracy after that.

[Tom4784]

The Nazis didn't gain absolute power in Germany through a democratic process.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the ageing President, having lost a previous presidential election, and the Nazis dismantled democracy after that.

Yet they had the electoral support to be put into a position where they could seize power through their own means.

[BBfanUSA]

This isn't like Nazi Germany because look at the BLM movement.

That isn't going away and it will continue to grow. Media will continue to cover it.

There's a strong group ready to fight if his dome of influence continues

[joeysteele]

I think we need to 'put our own house in order' first Jamie, before we even begin to wonder at the American Electoral System:

UKIP increased its share of the vote in the last General Election by 10 percentage points to a total of 3.9 million and wound up with just one constituency under the UK's first-past-the-post voting system.

Under the D'Hondt system of converting votes to seats, UKIP would have gained 83 seats.

Labour would have won far less seats and the Tories 75 less seats, and the SNP's 50 seat increase would have been just 25.

The unfairness of our current voting system is best illustrated by the fact that UKIP required more than 100 times as many votes for its lone elected MP than the Conservatives did for each of theirs.

Politics is a funny old game Jamie innit? :laugh:


I totally agree with this, I will help canvass endlessly all I can to get this first past the post system done away with.

Because for me not only will that bring far more representative result of elections as to how people voted but also it will,I believe, really help curb the extremes of all parties as to policy too, in order to get elected MPs in the first place.

No matter what party then leads in such a PR election or what combination of parties in government follows, such a govt; will at least command the true majority of votes cast in elections and therefore have a more true and right mandate.

[jaxie]

Yet you are okay with the Clinton Allegations?

You can't act like the accusations against Hillary are the gospel truth and then downplay the allegations against Trump.

Am I, when did I say that?

So good of you to make up comments for me.

[Scarlett.]

People are saying that there are SIMILARITIES to Nazi Germany.

They're not saying it's the exact same as Nazi Germany.
They're not saying Trump is literally Hitler.

Ignoring any hints toward the rise of facism again would be a disservice to those who died in WWII.

[jet]

So for the biggest and most important job in the free world no experience or qualifications are necessary - and that is acceptable to many? What in the **** is that all about? What a joke....D:

[arista]

So for the biggest and most important job in the free world no experience or qualifications are necessary - and that is acceptable to many? What in the **** is that all about? What a joke....D:


Your missing the Point
8 years wasted
Clintons are Corrupt as HELL

You do as you are told
or you are FIRED now

[Amy Jade]

Trump is just as corrupt as Clinton :laugh:

[Mokka]

People are saying that there are SIMILARITIES to Nazi Germany.

They're not saying it's the exact same as Nazi Germany.
They're not saying Trump is literally Hitler.

Ignoring any hints toward the rise of facism again would be a disservice to those who died in WWII.

People on here were last week calling Hillary Hitlary ...and posting oh so funny youtube videos hammering home the joke :idc: ... but don't you dare make the reference the other way :nono:

:rolleyes:

[jet]

Your missing the Point
8 years wasted
Clintons are Corrupt as HELL

You do as you are told
or you are FIRED now

Would you let a egotistical rich man who had never seen the inside of an operating room operate on you instead of an experienced surgeon just because he believes that he could do a better job?
All we've had is hot air and sound bites from Trump - he's untried and inexperienced. Yet he's handed the biggest job (and a job that could be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands) as if that doesn't matter. If that's not nuts, I don't know what is.

[arista]

The Nazis didn't gain absolute power in Germany through a democratic process.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the ageing President, having lost a previous presidential election, and the Nazis dismantled democracy after that.


Yes James
its Shocking so many on TIBB
never Studied WW2 in Full.

Bad Education
I do not like it

[Mokka]

Hillary is speaking rt now

[arista]

Hillary is speaking rt now



Yes



It is good to Cry

[arista]

"inside of an operating room "

No Jet , not comparable

Bernie was Killed Off by her
she is Evil