Celebrity Big Brother 19 Ratings Thread

[Will.]

Since there's like 4 weeks to go why not.

[Cal.]

Launch will probably hit 3 million with the Speidi/Bear/Hopkins/Perez rumours.

[Will.]

Launch will probably hit 3 million with the Speidi/Bear/Hopkins/Perez rumours.

I agree, probably going to be high with the rumours.

[*mazedsalv**]

Fs why does it have to be All stars, I cba with that.

[Jason.]

The rumours are **** and I hope it fails. :)

[Firewire]

This is Salv's thread :nono:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

it's november?

[Firewire]

it's november?

also this

[Denver]

perched for it starting on Xmas day

[Will.]

This is Salv's thread :nono:

No it's not! I've made the ratings thread since like CBB15.

Although of course Salv can make it. :love:

[Will.]

I love how I'm the only one that gets told off for making threads early! I can give you all plenty of other examples of TiBB members.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

anyway

[Firewire]

Probably because you make them five weeks early

[Will.]

Wow I make threads early! Really doesn't cause any harm but people constantly feel the need to make nasty comments, pathetic.

[Josy]

If you don't like the thread don't post in it, leave will alone.

[Firewire]

Alright Josy

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

are you his mum now

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[reece(:]

They would get bigger ratings with Lady C, Selina, Judi Jai and Cardi!!!

[Firewire]

are you his mum now

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:laugh2:

[Babayaro.]

are you his mum now

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:joker::joker:

[Ross.]

are you his mum now

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:joker:

[StevenS]

I think roughly 3 million for launch and the same ratings at the previous January series.

[*mazedsalv**]

I like Will so I will let him off ;)

Will be interesting how this rates after the terrible summer CBB. Such a shame the BB legacy got ruined slightly again with CBB after a successful and critically acclaimed regular series.

[Maxxie.]

Definitely 3m+, hopefully it'll go back to 3.5m as last years launch was the only jan launch so far not to do that.

[mrmattybeck1]

Good to see this thread back hoping close to 3m again but after the awful summer cbb in the summer not so sure


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[Rob!]

Predictions?

I'm thinking about 2.6m for launch

[Rob!]

It's against

BBC1: Silent Witness
BBC2: Yellowstone (no idea what that is)
ITV: Robson Crusoe: A Surprising Adventure
C4: 24 Hours in A&E

[reece(:]

2.8

[Mrmattybeck]

Competition seems easier against mainly old people shows


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[*mazedsalv**]

IMO the launch will flop and so will the series. :(

2.0M launch, drops to 1.4m on Day 2.

[BigBruddah17]

I think launch will rate quite high considering how long it was trending for, it's still trending now:dance:

[iRyan]

I have a feeling the launch rating will be a flop, but I hope I'm wrong.

[BigBruddah17]

Do we find out later today? Overnights

[BigBruddah17]

And what would count as a flop for Jan CBB?

[supertv247]

RATINGS

Celebrity Big Brother launched with 2.32 million viewers last night, down 500k on last January and 1 million down on 2015 and down on the summer CBB launch of 2.36m.

Previous January launches:
2.8m
3.3m
3.4m
3.5m
3.5m

[awhael]

Damn, and there wasn't much competition either.

[Jake.]

mess

[supertv247]

I'm hoping launch was just a fluke then, like BBUK. That had the least watched launch on C5 but the series average ended up the second highest. Wasn't this bad though :shocked:

[Jake.]

Tbf launch show ratings are becoming less relevant as the years go on

[MB.]

And what would count as a flop for Jan CBB?

This

[supertv247]

I'm not even sure why it's dropped so much?
Because launches are nothing special these days?
Because CBB is over?
Because Bear and the manipulation ruined it for People?
Because the GP have absolutely no interest in All Stars?
Or because the leaked lineup was genuinely just rubbish?

Huh..
officials will probably be up yet again though so could end up averaging around 2.8 across the series like last year.

[Greg!]

Isn't that still like 3x what any other channel 5 show gets tho. Hopefully it holds up and doesn't flop on the first highlights

[sampvt]

Loads avoided it because Speidi was brought back. It makes the show a scripted mess.

[BigBruddah17]

I think +1 should bring it up by alot actually

[Rob!]

That was with +1. It was 2.14m without it :umm2:

It's not great by any means but it was still 2nd in the slot last night.

[Denver]

People dont watch live TV anymore

[BigBruddah17]

That was with +1. It was 2.14m without it :umm2:

It's not great by any means but it was still 2nd in the slot last night.

Sorry I meant officials but yeah it's not looking good :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the most watched tv show over Christmas had the lowest audience of any most watched Christmas shows ever

[*mazedsalv**]

It's poor being down half a million. But 2.32m is still fantastic for C5. Not for Winter CBB, but I knew it would be damaged after the previous CBB.

It all depends on it's retention now. It can fall or it can stay incredibly stable (something the likes of CBB13/15 and BB17 did), so you never know.

I'm predicting 1.7m tonight. We won't know the real success until the officials I guess. Less and less people are watching TV live now, and i remember the last couple of BB series were gaining around 700k on timeshift, so you can never say it's doing badly.

[*mazedsalv**]

People dont watch live TV anymore

I don't wantto defend ratings all the time but I agree.

Like I said, BB used to gain only 200k on timsehift back in C4 days, nowadays it's been 500k-600k, Saturday episodes last year were timeshifting almost 1m!

IMO last nights launch was around 2.8m officially.

[Cal.]

Mess. No way it'll keep all those viewers anyway - most people I know were disappointed with the cast.

[Jason.]

CBB18 being awful has probably put people off CBB the same way BB15 did with BB during BB16.

I'll still hold out calling it a flop though. I remember most people were alarmed by CBB17's low figures during the launch and first week (especially when compared against CBB15's high figures the year before) yet the ratings slowly increased each week and were sometimes on par with CBB15's during the second half.

[RichardG]

tv ratings on the whole for every show are falling, i'm quite impressed that season 19 of a trash c5 show can still pull in 2.3m viewers lol

[Jake.]

Channel 5 (exc. +1):
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.77m (7.9%)

In Therapy: Coleen Nolan: 0.70m (4.4%)

[Maxxie.]

Channel 5 (exc. +1):
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.77m (7.9%)

In Therapy: Coleen Nolan: 0.70m (4.4%)

I think that's OK?? I only follow officials tbh so what is that likely to translate too? Along with +1?

[*mazedsalv**]

It's one of the smallest drops from launch to 1st show. Example last Jan went from 2.80m to 2.19m, last summer went from 2.36m to 1.6m.

This looks to be around 1.9m with +1 (and officials last year were adding on average 500k so around 2.4m officially I'd guess)

[sampvt]

I still maintain if Speidi wasnt there that it would be watched by more.

[*mazedsalv**]

I still maintain if Speidi wasnt there that it would be watched by more.

I doubt it. Considering the series they were in was higher than CBB8, CBB9 and CBB10 and at the time was the most watched series until CBB13 on C5.

Speidi makes no difference to the viewers IMO. Most people will not give up a show based on one HM.

[sampvt]

I doubt it. Considering the series they were in was higher than CBB8, CBB9 and CBB10 and at the time was the most watched series until CBB13 on C5.

Speidi makes no difference to the viewers IMO. Most people will not give up a show based on one HM.

There are quite a few, including me, that feel its going to be much of the same old crap as they dont know anything else. They work from a pre determined script and allready knew who was going in which isnt true of anyone else so why are they being fed info if it isnt to design a script.

I cant look at the tv without wanting to punch his silly little ****ty face and that gets my goat. I actually switched off halfway through last night when he was going at Stacy. So predictable.

[12bigbrother12]

If they want the launch ratings to be high the full housemate list needs to be kept away from the press. The fun about launch night is that you don't know who is going to be revealed, once you take the surprise away the magic is gone and it is just 14 people taking 7 minutes each to be introduced and walk in the house. It feels very drawn out and gets quite boring.

I could probably sit at the end of my street and watch people I know walk in or out of a house every seven minutes.

[*mazedsalv**]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.9m (8.6%) including +1

300k higher than last summer, but 300k lower than last January's 1st show.

[Denver]

Ratings mean nothing these days

[Jordan.]

I doubt it. Considering the series they were in was higher than CBB8, CBB9 and CBB10 and at the time was the most watched series until CBB13 on C5.

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[*mazedsalv**]

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People trying to fight me on ratings knowledge. :joker:

I'm a muddaeffing genius.

[Jake.]

1.9 is okay

[Mrmattybeck]

Not bad I suppose


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[BigBruddah17]

When do we get officials?

[Will.]

That's not that bad, only 200K off of last years equivalent.

[Will.]

CBB17:

Launch - 2.8M
Day 2 - 2.19M
Day 3 - 2.04M
Day 4 - 1.8M

[Cal.]

Oh they're not too bad then.

[supertv247]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.9m (8.6%) including +1

300k higher than last summer, but 300k lower than last January's 1st show.

This is good, as within the past year consolidation figures have continued to rise, which means it'll end up closer to CBB17 than 18 in officials.

[Jake.]

CBB: 1.73m (7.5%) excluding +1

[sampvt]

TIBB seem to be the only forum promoting good results to viewing figures, all the rest seem to think its dying a death and this series might be the worst for a long time. I do know one thing, if they keep on with these lame brain american driven storylines, the brits will tune out. Im not bothered about the bloody Kardashians, I want to see action relating to the characters in there now. Its a Brit show, not an american one.

[*mazedsalv**]

There was a climb last night as it added a significant amount on +1.

Last night CBB averaged 2.0m (8.5%) incl +1.

[Rob!]

So how's it doing in the grand scheme of things do you think Salv? Certainly not at the dizzy heights of previous January's but at the same time not a complete disgrace.

[*mazedsalv**]

So how's it doing in the grand scheme of things do you think Salv? Certainly not at the dizzy heights of previous January's but at the same time not a complete disgrace.

Actually, CBB17 started off quite low until David-gate.

For example, the 2nd HL show last Jan which also fell on a Thursday got a 2.04m, last night got 2.0m. So at that point CBB17 fell 800k in 2 days, as of now CBB19 has dropped only 300k. The first week of CBB17 was generally 2.0-2.2, and then climbed 2.4m+ mid season and then was getting 2.6-2.7m nightly.

If it keeps being around the 2.0-2.1m i wouldn't be surprised it matching CBB9s 2.6m so it might not even mean it's the least watched winter series.

[Rob!]

Doesn't seem like CBB18 had that dire an effect then. BB fans are a forgiving bunch :joker:

[Jake.]

Channel 5 (Top 3: 7pm-11.5pm) (exc. +1):

Celebrity Big Brother (10.30pm): 1.48m (9.6%)
Celebrity Big Brother (9pm): 1.44m (6.9%)
Lip Sync Battle UK: 1.28m (7.0%)

[Jake.]

Looks like being sandwiched inbetween the two gave positive results for Lip Sync. The 10:30 show is very impressive share wise, that & the fact more people watched it than the 9pm show. The West Ham match pulled in 4.21m (20.2%) at the same time, so it'll be interesting to see if +1 added a decent amount.

[supertv247]

Last year's first Friday got 1.8 million at 9pm and 1.7 million at 10:30pm, LSBUK got 1.6 million
That's all including +1 as well, so last night will probably be around 1.7m for both which is okay and on par with last year. Exceptionally decent that they heald almost 100% of the audience for the second show, considering last year's second Friday had 2.4m at 9pm and 1.6m at 10:30pm

[*mazedsalv**]

Still waiting on the +1 ratings, not sure if we will get them until Monday.

But I'd predict 1.6m for both.

[*mazedsalv**]

Tonight and tomorrow will be awful.

Tonight is a Saturday so it;s always low rated but up against The Voice. Tomorrow it's up against the HUGE Sherlock.

[*mazedsalv**]

Seriously good luck with the ratings... it will have done awful tonight, the forums were all dead as was social media, being a Saturday and against The Voice. Then tomorrow against Sherlock. They will be scary! But that's expected so shouldn't be a surprise.

[Jake.]

I'm not sure many care anymore lol

[sampvt]

Excuses excuses, It makes no difference which way you slice or dice it, the ratings are pretty crappy and its obvious the producers are flogging a dead horse. As I said before, Speidi is killing this series of shows, their audience and fan base is way too small and It wouldnt make any difference who they were up against, people simply are sick of manufactured Mayhem, its simply no longer acceptable for a reality show with a social angle attached to it. Then to boot they stick in 2 overgrown kids that are even less liked than Speidi.

The producers and programme makers need to revert back to the old format and keep their friggin twists for a show that can stand them. BB is a social experiment that makes its own storylines, they dont need help from people that obviously havent got a clue.

[Rob!]

Excuses excuses, It makes no difference which way you slice or dice it, the ratings are pretty crappy and its obvious the producers are flogging a dead horse. As I said before, Speidi is killing this series of shows, their audience and fan base is way too small and It wouldnt make any difference who they were up against, people simply are sick of manufactured Mayhem, its simply no longer acceptable for a reality show with a social angle attached to it. Then to boot they stick in 2 overgrown kids that are even less liked than Speidi.

The producers and programme makers need to revert back to the old format and keep their friggin twists for a show that can stand them. BB is a social experiment that makes its own storylines, they dont need help from people that obviously havent got a clue.

Let's just wait till we see the officials. You may well be right, but BB stopped being a priority show long before Channel 5 came along. It's less so now obviously but I think we should wait till we get all the facts before we start talking about dead horses.

[Jack_]

Why did they schedule it for 9 anyway? I'm sure they always move it for X Factor in the summer and have it start as that finishes

9:35 would've made more sense

[BB-Germany]

y'all are way too obsessed with the numbers. Of course they are lower. It's the share that counts and that isn't that bad at all.

[Mrmattybeck]

y'all are way too obsessed with the numbers. Of course they are lower. It's the share that counts and that isn't that bad at all.



Exactly will wait for consolated numbers lots of younger viewers will be out on a Saturday


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[Jake.]

Channel 5 (exc. +1):

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.00m (4.7%)

[BB-Germany]

1,20 (plus 1)

It's ok. Apparently it was heavily affected by the voice but gained lots of viewers after that was finished. Officials should add a lot more.

I still struggle to understand why it is down a bit on last year's as i was ecstatic hearing the allstars rumours and I loved the episodes so far.

[supertv247]

1,20 (plus 1)

It's ok. Apparently it was heavily affected by the voice but gained lots of viewers after that was finished. Officials should add a lot more.

I still struggle to understand why it is down a bit on last year's as i was ecstatic hearing the allstars rumours and I loved the episodes so far.

The reason it's down, is Bear.
Just like when BB16 came after Helen..

[Jake.]

CBB: 1.37m (5.9%) excluding +1

[LukeB]

818431931125813249

Mess,this season is being paid dust.

[Ross.]

Bring in the Pricey!

[Cal.]

The Pricey heading in on Friday? :clap1:

[LukeB]

Bring in the Pricey!

The Pricey heading in on Friday? :clap1:

:clap1:

Has any of the highlight shows reached over 2 million? I don't think its gone under 2 million all week for a winter one

[Mrmattybeck]

Very poor maybe viewers didn't want ex celebrities back and lack of updates won't help things


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[Cal.]

Everyone on Twitter is blaming the lack of updates. I can see an increase in live feed coming next week.

[Jack_]

Seems very strange to me, don't January CBB's pull in almost 3m consistently? Genuinely can't fathom why they're so low this time around

It's a shame cause this series has been going well so far and I don't want them to spoil it, nor do I want them to blame the All Stars (although they could've picked a better bunch) and decide never to do it again :idc:

[RichardG]

that's not very good

isn't that what civilian bb episodes get? or have they dropped even lower these days :oh:

[Cal.]

Seems very strange to me, don't January CBB's pull in almost 3m consistently? Genuinely can't fathom why they're so low this time around

It's a shame cause this series has been going well so far and I don't want them to spoil it, nor do I want them to blame the All Stars (although they could've picked a better bunch) and decide never to do it again :idc:

I think it's a combination of the Bear effect, that most of the line-up is kind of unknown, a lot of All Stars are from summer series' or series' from a long time ago and the lack of live feed and updates.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ironic as it's really good. DM online is sticking with it doing lots of sidebar articles so hopefully it will pick up?

Agree Bear killed it for many

[Mrmattybeck]

Agree bear victory will have put people off same happened when Helen won bbuk


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[Cal.]

that's not very good

isn't that what civilian bb episodes get? or have they dropped even lower these days :oh:

Pretty much,

[BigBruddah17]

Can see this being a CBB version of BB16 tbh. A good first part with airtime spread out over the cast but poor ratings will welcome us to a monstrosity that will reign the rest of the series :(

[BigBruddah17]

I think C5 have realised their mistake with 2 CBB's a year now

[*mazedsalv**]

Tonight is the challenge, if it can't recover towards the high 1s, then it will be in a little bit of trouble...not too much because I am sure officials will add like half a million.

[arista]

1,20 (plus 1)

It's ok. Apparently it was heavily affected by the voice but gained lots of viewers after that was finished. Officials should add a lot more.

I still struggle to understand why it is down a bit on last year's as i was ecstatic hearing the allstars rumours and I loved the episodes so far.


Yes Viacom made a big Error
not putting it , after that show.

They knew it was on that night.

[Mrmattybeck]

Can see this being a CBB version of BB16 tbh. A good first part with airtime spread out over the cast but poor ratings will welcome us to a monstrosity that will reign the rest of the series :(



Same I'm expecting something to happen Friday if ratings don't pick up


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[Rob!]

1.57m excl +1. (7.1%)

That's better. Not great but better.

[Jake.]

Comparison to the other ratings the channel got last night

Extreme Sea Monsters: 0.96m (4.4%)
Deep-Sea Super Predator (R): 0.81m (4.0%)

[Rob!]

To rise 570k since Saturday is nothing to be sniffed at tbf

[supertv247]

The consolidated ratings for this series will be really interesting. Last years officials were sometimes astonishing, adding near 1 million at times.. I'm just wondering if that's where the numbers have gone for this series.

[Maxxie.]

Agree bear victory will have put people off same happened when Helen won bbuk


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Not really as the January series after that was the most watched c5.

[Mrmattybeck]

Not really as the January series after that was the most watched c5.



True it will bounch back it always does


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[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.45m (6.6%) excl +1

[Jake.]

Can't defend that. These are summer CBB ratings at best. Will have to see how much was added on plus 1.

Shame, was a fantastic episode.

[sampvt]

1 mil for a tosspot no longer there and jedward and speidi missing off our screens isnt helping. all we are getting is a fake, over dramatic gay guy with anger issues. hardly compelling viewing.

[BB-Germany]

When are officials coming?

[Gstar]

I swear BB13s first week rated higher

[supertv247]

1.6 million including +1.
Down 830k on last January (although that was Davids dead) - but still around 500k down on most episodes around that as well... Inexcusable

Officials for the first week will be in on Monday. Fingers crossed they save it a little

[Denver]

A huge turn off will be the need to show constant arguments

[Mrmattybeck]

Can't t be long till a dramatic 4 in 4 out twist surely very poor numbers


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[RichardG]

Can't t be long till a dramatic 4 in 4 out twist surely very poor numbers


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the producers have absolutely no choice but to remove one of the most boring celebrities, potentially meaning he has to give up his massive $1m fee, just as it becomes clear that the ratings are dire and ben frow is screaming down the phone at them to do something about it

wow they sure are lucky huh, what a coincidence :whistle:

[Jamesy]

No doubt producers will have to intervene to boost figures again. When it does come to that, surely it shows how they currently manage the show does not work? Intervention due to lower than expected ratings has happened a few times now.

[Firewire]

Should've put Pricey in :idc:

[12bigbrother12]

I think a lot of it is because the Allstars look disappointing on paper. When people hear that their favourite Celebrity housemates are coming back the young viewers expect the likes of Katie Price/Katie Hopkins and older viewers expect some of the bigger names the show used to pull on Channel 4 (Jermaine Jackson/George Galloway). Nobody thought "Wow, an allstar series! I'd love to see Jasmine Waltz again!"

Leaking the lineup early + the lineup looking disappointing on paper = this.

I also hear that the Summer celebrity series wasn't seen as a good year, which can't help. Although I can't comment as I didn't watch it. #

I am glad this series seems a little more fun than previous ones though, after Brexit and Trump I think we need a break from conflict and misery.

[Cal.]

These ratings are ridiculous. About a million under what I'd expect them to be.

[Cal.]

I think a lot of it is because the Allstars look disappointing on paper. When people hear that their favourite Celebrity housemates are coming back the young viewers expect the likes of Katie Price/Katie Hopkins and older viewers expect some of the bigger names the show used to pull on Channel 4 (Jermaine Jackson/George Galloway). Nobody thought "Wow, an allstar series! I'd love to see Jasmine Waltz again!"

This is probably true. Everybody I know in real life is disappointed that Perez, Hopkins, Steph, Tiffany, Bear etc. aren't the 'All Stars' and most complained they knew none of the All Stars at all.

[Cal.]

A better rating for tonight's though, I should imagine, considering the Ray J stuff will have piqued some people's interest.

[Greg!]

1.7million overnight is still really good for C5 though? This series still deserves a LOT more mind.

[Rob!]

It's a shame as this series is producing some really interesting dynamics. ****ing Bear :fist:

[Cal.]

1.56m (7.3%) excl +1

[Jake.]

again, not good

[Mrmattybeck]

Yet again very poor will be saying that most this series it's a shame as I'm really enjoying it feels very c4


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[sampvt]

If C5 got rid of the americans it would grow again. Nobody wants the imports, it dilutes our own home grown product and when they spend 1 million on a dip stick that sleeps then walks, wtf, it only pisses people off. They are their own worst enemies

[Mrmattybeck]

If C5 got rid of the americans it would grow again. Nobody wants the imports, it dilutes our own home grown product and when they spend 1 million on a dip stick that sleeps then walks, wtf, it only pisses people off. They are their own worst enemies



Agree it's got much worst since Viacom took over


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[Rob!]

If C5 got rid of the americans it would grow again. Nobody wants the imports, it dilutes our own home grown product and when they spend 1 million on a dip stick that sleeps then walks, wtf, it only pisses people off. They are their own worst enemies

Oh take it to the SD section, it's got nothing to do with that. :idc:

[Gstar]

This serves them right after how they randomly ruined the last 3 weeks of BB17

[*mazedsalv**]

Still no +1, but will be 1.7m or 1.8m. What were people expecting after it launched at a low 2.3m, was hardly going to stay 2m+ was it?

Officials will be big though.

[Jake.]

Has anyone else noticed the correlation nowadays between the overnight launch figure & the official series average? CBB17 launched with 2.8 (i think?) overnight/averaged the same. BB17 launched with 1.6, averaged 1.6. Okay so CBB18 was a little off, but close enough. And with the kind of figures this series is getting, it could average 2.3 officially.

[BigBruddah17]

When do we get officials?

[*mazedsalv**]

Has anyone else noticed the correlation nowadays between the overnight launch figure & the official series average? CBB17 launched with 2.8 (i think?) overnight/averaged the same. BB17 launched with 1.6, averaged 1.6. Okay so CBB18 was a little off, but close enough. And with the kind of figures this series is getting, it could average 2.3 officially.

The last couple of years, CBB has been timeshifting around half a million. So if we keep getting 1.7m then it would be around 2.2m.

I remember the Friday interview later shows and Saturdays used to timeshift almost 1m last year! :shocked:

[*mazedsalv**]

When do we get officials?

Monday afternoon.

The first batch will come on Monday for the ratings of the launch (Tuesday) to the Sunday, so we will get 6 ratings.

[*mazedsalv**]

By the way +1 rating was 1.7m (8.1%), higher share but same 1.7m

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.65m (7.4%) excl +1

[Cal.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.65m (7.4%) excl +1

Pricey and Chloe will defo push this up at least a million.

[*mazedsalv**]

That's a 100k boost, should be at least 1.8m with +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

Pricey and Chloe will defo push this up at least a million.

Chloe will barely push it up 1,000.

Pricey may push it up past 2m, but she's so dull and will win. What a pointless series that would be.

[Cal.]

Chloe will barely push it up 1,000.

Pricey may push it up past 2m, but she's so dull and will win. What a pointless series that would be.

Chloe is EXTREMELY popular with a younger audience. Even more popular than Charlotte these days. A lot more younger people will begin tuning in to see Chloe.

[Greg!]

Chloe is EXTREMELY popular with a younger audience. Even more popular than Charlotte these days. A lot more younger people will begin tuning in to see Chloe.

Took the words right out of my mouth babes. There were literally people at me school having convos saying they're not watching this year because there's no one from Geordie shore

[VanessaFeltz.]

even i am not watching it
it shows how ****ty c5 got
1.5 for winter cbb? MESS

[Briancbbfan]

In fairness Pricey isn't very entertaining but she will definitely bring the ratings over 2m!

The producers also need to FACE TO FACE noms and start meddling big time to bring the drama! I'm so sick of Stacy/Austin drama...

[*mazedsalv**]

Last night climbed to 1.9m including +1. Highest since the first Thursday.

[Greg!]

Last night climbed to 1.9m including +1. Highest since the first Thursday.

Iconic

[Rob!]

Took the words right out of my mouth babes. There were literally people at me school having convos saying they're not watching this year because there's no one from Geordie shore

That may be the most depressing statement I've ever seen.

[Jack_]

That may be the most depressing statement I've ever seen.

[2]

[Rob!]

And people got offended by Angie saying BB audiences have low intelligence?

[Babayaro.]

Took the words right out of my mouth babes. There were literally people at me school having convos saying they're not watching this year because there's no one from Geordie shore

MESS

[Black Dagger]

If C5 got rid of the americans it would grow again. Nobody wants the imports, it dilutes our own home grown product and when they spend 1 million on a dip stick that sleeps then walks, wtf, it only pisses people off. They are their own worst enemies

No ta. I'd rather Speidi and Stacy over Jamie, Coleen and countless others.

[Black Dagger]

Greg your school is grim x

[Jack_]

And people got offended by Angie saying BB audiences have low intelligence?

:joker:

I was thinking that

[Greg!]

That may be the most depressing statement I've ever seen.

[2]

And people got offended by Angie saying BB audiences have low intelligence?

MESS

Greg your school is grim x

Not saying it was a good thing lmao it's just what I heard

[Jack_]

Oh I know, I just think it's a sad indictment on the types of viewers this show has :laugh: i.e. clueless

[Jack_]

like why the **** would you want a Geordie Shore star, they're predictable winners and meh housemates

I don't think I can name one good housemate that was a structured reality star (TOWIE, MIC, GS, EOTB)

[Oaker]

like why the **** would you want a Geordie Shore star, they're predictable winners and meh housemates

I don't think I can name one good housemate that was a structured reality star (TOWIE, MIC, GS, EOTB)

Gemma shade?

[Rob!]

Gemma was awful. I want realness from the housemates. Entertain me but don't be fake as ****.

[Greg!]

like why the **** would you want a Geordie Shore star, they're predictable winners and meh housemates

I don't think I can name one good housemate that was a structured reality star (TOWIE, MIC, GS, EOTB)

Ummm Amy Childs, Charlotte Crosby, Megan McKenna, the GC?

[Jack_]

Amy was another meh, same as Charlotte

I'll give you Gemma and Megan though. But still not a great ratio

[Rob!]

Megan was good I'll give you that.

[Oaker]

Megan had 2 good highlight shows and was crap outside of that tbh

[LukeB]

Gemma was awful. I want realness from the housemates. Entertain me but don't be fake as ****.

hmmm this is a lie. Gemma was entertaining af.

[Black Dagger]

Megan had 2 good highlight shows and was crap outside of that tbh

This.

Gemma Collins has been the only decent one, I liked Ollie as well and he was on my wishlist for ages, but he was a non entity really.

[LukeB]

This.

Gemma Collins has been the only decent one, I liked Ollie as well and he was on my wishlist for ages, but he was a non entity really.

Sam Faires was on my wishlist because I loved her when I actually watched Towie but she was non entity as well, I was a tad disappointed

but Gemma > all

[Jason.]

Megan had 2 good highlight shows and was crap outside of that tbh

[3]

She hasn't really aged well for me.

[Macie Lightfoot]

This.

Gemma Collins has been the only decent one, I liked Ollie as well and he was on my wishlist for ages, but he was a non entity really.

WHAT ABOUT LAUREN GOODGER xx

[Rob!]

WHAT ABOUT LAUREN GOODGER xx

What about her?

[Cal.]

Part One - 1.8m excl +1
Part Two - 1.6m excl +1

[Mrmattybeck]

Very poor


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[LukeB]

Part One - 1.8m excl +1
Part Two - 1.6m excl +1

Mess the twist for ratings gave them a tiny boost.

[Mrmattybeck]

More like summer ratings :laugh: [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Ross.]

Gemma was awful. I want realness from the housemates. Entertain me but don't be fake as ****.

Why hasn't this member been banned for this yet?

[Jack_]

Stuck between a rock and a hard place in wanting the ratings to increase so they stop pulling desperate stunts in a bid to recover them, and wanting them to fall because of how ****ing incompetent they are

Mind you after last night it's the beginning of the end anyway so I say let them tumble

[*mazedsalv**]

Part One - 1.8m excl +1
Part Two - 1.6m excl +1

Nope, the excl +1 figures were 1.67m and 1.49m. The share of the 2nd episode was 9.6% excl +1, highest since launch.

The first show was 250k up on last week, the 2nd show was only like 20k up on last week.

With +1, we are looking at around 1.9m and 1.7m. May look low but it's not terrible for a Friday. The twist results won't be seen in ratings form until this weekend.

Also the 2nd show did very similar to last January, in fact when +1 is added and the share is seen, it most likely will beat Week 2 share which was 10.6% (it already beat last winters Winston eviction share which only was 8.6%).

So, IMO it's not terrible. We will see for Sunday's episode whether it helped it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Stuck between a rock and a hard place in wanting the ratings to increase so they stop pulling desperate stunts in a bid to recover them, and wanting them to fall because of how ****ing incompetent they are

Mind you after last night it's the beginning of the end anyway so I say let them tumble

I think people are really exaggerating the ratings. You do realise when officials are added it will be close to the 2.5m mark? Not terrible.

Last year we saw boosts of 500k-700k.

[Jack_]

Then why are they pulling desperate last minute stunts like last night?

They must think it's a problem that needs addressing

[*mazedsalv**]

Then why are they pulling desperate last minute stunts like last night?

They must think it's a problem that needs addressing

They are making rash decisions on overnight ratings, but they should know officials will save their ass like they did for CBB18.

That's why I think a lot working on the show are bad at their jobs, they don't know how ratings work. They should know that historically, it is very very rare to ever go near the rating of a launch night.

The problem was the launch night rating. The figures have held more than most series. The fact it launched 500k down was the problem. They make rash decisions to try and boost it over 2m which, lets be honest, will be unlikely.

BB7 launched with 7.7m, did they expect it to hold above 6m nightly? They would be stupid to do that. It averaged 4.7m officially (4.4m overnights).

Overnights tell half the story, I can do a better job at running the show because I understand the audience/ratings and the pattern they follow. It's silly for them to panic everytime a rating comes out.

They should wait for officials before making stupid decisions and then act accordingly.

Like I said, there's no reason to panic, the series if HOLDING UP well in regards to it's launch rating. It's the launch rating that did badly. Had it launched at 2.8m like CBB17, it would be doing 2.2m-2.3m overnights.

Also, they should know that if they wanted to boost ratings, they should do more updates/feed.

More to talk about- Forum traffic= social media traffic- publicity- ratings boost.

A 2 year old would know that.

[RichardG]

Also, they should know that if they wanted to boost ratings, they should do more updates/feed.

More to talk about- Forum traffic= social media traffic- publicity- ratings boost.

A 2 year old would know that.

they don't even make an effort with the website videos anymore either, there's literally nothing to talk about :laugh: i'm not bothered about 24/7 live feed, i wouldn't watch it anyway, but some level of updates are needed

[Macie Lightfoot]

What about her?

Another great scripted reality star in CBB :love:

[Lostie!]

they don't even make an effort with the website videos anymore either, there's literally nothing to talk about :laugh: i'm not bothered about 24/7 live feed, i wouldn't watch it anyway, but some level of updates are needed

Especially when they cited the online updates as part of their reasoning for not reinstating the live feed. The running of this show is hilariously bad at this point.

[Mrmattybeck]

Agree no actual updates absolutely awful it doesn't surprise me numbers are down their Is literally nothing to talk about bar the highlight show


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[*mazedsalv**]

Especially when they cited the online updates as part of their reasoning for not reinstating the live feed. The running of this show is hilariously bad at this point.

Agree.

They could easily have ratings boosted and publicity increases and more forum activity if they gave us regular updates. Note how much busier the forums were during BB14 as opposed to BB12, 13, 15-16 due to the extra feed, and CBB17 last year with it's late night feed every day.

Even 2 hours a day would create a LOT more to talk about.

The fact they have posted ONE video today is shambolic.

[*mazedsalv**]

Agree no actual updates absolutely awful it doesn't surprise me numbers are down their Is literally nothing to talk about bar the highlight show


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Oathy who has been in talks witn Ben Frow has said that there is a certain NO regarding the live feed and there is a lot of very unhappy producers. It seems like it's a 90:10 ratio of people who don't want live feed and those who do. Sadly the majority vote means we get no feed. Don't know why. Ben Frow himself said that the increase of forum/social media activity was due to more feed, so ******* knows why they got rid of it.

[Mrmattybeck]

Oathy who has been in talks witn Ben Frow has said that there is a certain NO regarding the live feed and there is a lot of very unhappy producers. It seems like it's a 90:10 ratio of people who don't want live feed and those who do. Sadly the majority vote means we get no feed. Don't know why. Ben Frow himself said that the increase of forum/social media activity was due to more feed, so ******* knows why they got rid of it.



Just some actual updates and videos on the website would really help such a shame


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[Will.]

1.4M last night, not sure that's with +1.

That's not bad for a Saturday?

CBB17 got 1.33M on the second Saturday.

[*mazedsalv**]

1.4M last night, not sure that's with +1.

That's not bad for a Saturday?

CBB17 got 1.33M on the second Saturday.

How do you know it got that with +1.

1.23m excl +1 it was, and yes, as far as this series goes and the slot time it is decent considering last years higher rated series got a 1.33m incl +1.

[Will.]

How do you know it got that with +1.

1.23m excl +1 it was, and yes, as far as this series goes and the slot time it is decent considering last years higher rated series got a 1.33m incl +1.

I said I didn't know! :laugh:

Yeah, seems okay for this series!

[Rob!]

Fabulous Kim bringing in the ratings :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Tellymix saying 1.4m incl +1.

That's quite impressive for a Saturday at 10:30pm! That slot in C5 barely gets 300k, never mind on a Saturday!

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.62m (7.0%) excl +1

[*mazedsalv**]

Well at least its 250k up on last week. I recall last week it being a low (bar Saturday) as it faced Sherlock and got 1.37m excl, so at least it's up considerably.

It will be around 1.8m incl +1, but i really think that tonight may get closer to 2m than any other.

[Rob!]

From Salv on DS

FIRST OFFICIALS

In brackets are their overnights.

Launch Night- 2.77m (2.3m)
Weds 4th- 2.48m (1.9m)
Thurs 5th- 2.55m (2.0m)
Friday 6th Part 1- 2.00m (1.4m)
Friday 6th Part 2- 2.09m (1.5m)
Sat 7th- 1.85m (1.20m)
Sunday 8th- 2.14m (1.5m)

Average after Week 1- 2.27m incl +1

[*mazedsalv**]

FIRST OFFICIALS

In brackets are their overnights.

Launch Night- 2.77m (2.3m)
Weds 4th- 2.48m (1.9m)
Thurs 5th- 2.55m (2.0m)
Friday 6th Part 1- 2.00m (1.4m)
Friday 6th Part 2- 2.09m (1.5m)
Sat 7th- 1.85m (1.20m)
Sunday 8th- 2.14m (1.5m)

Average after Week 1- 2.27m incl +1

Some large time shifts there, between 500k-600k. With current ratings being slightly higher at around 1.8m, we should be seeing more 2.30m+ ratings.

[Rob!]

:fan:

[Rob!]

Not too bad on the whole?

[Mrmattybeck]

Overnights becoming less relevant some good time shifts there


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[*mazedsalv**]

Not too bad on the whole?

Not really. Well not great for a winter series, but we knew that when it launched half a million lower than CBB17 and around 1m lower than other Winter series. As long as it doesn't fall under last summers 2.1m.

[supertv247]

The consolidated figures aren't bad at all, adding over half a million. As a whole though, the current series average is the lowest ever for a January series by half a million. It's above CBB16 by 400k and 18 by 200k though and I don't think it'll drop to that, it should only be on the up from now.

[*mazedsalv**]

The consolidated figures aren't bad at all, adding over half a million. As a whole though, the current series average is the lowest ever for a January series by half a million. It's above CBB16 by 400k and 18 by 200k though and I don't think it'll drop to that, it should only be on the up from now.
CBB9 was a Jan series and averaged 2.6m so it's down 330k at the moment but the gap will close.

It's also up on 10 and 14 and level with 12.

[*mazedsalv**]

CBB8- 2.8M
CBB9- 2.6m
CBB10- 2.2m
CBB11- 2.8m
CBB12- 2.3m
CBB13- 3.1m
CBB14- 2.1m
CBB15- 3.1m
CBB16- 1.9M
CBB17- 2.8m
CBB18- 2.1m

It's beating 10, 14, 16 and 18. And equal with 12.

[Cal.]

Oh so it's held up well. I'm sure Austin's eviction/Chloe's arrival/Jasmine's eviction will have boosted the second week officials too to get it above CBB12 and closer to CBB9.

[Maxxie.]

The official launch rating is shockingly bad for a January series, civilian c5 launches have gotten more than that and is the first ever Jan Launch to get under 3m and only last year were they all at least 3.6

[*mazedsalv**]

The official launch rating is shockingly bad for a January series, civilian c5 launches have gotten more than that and is the first ever Jan Launch to get under 3m and only last year were they all at least 3.6

100%

The series performance across the series is not the problem, the launch was. The series has held on to like 80% of the launch audience, when series usually hold ~60% of launch.

[supertv247]

CBB9 was a Jan series and averaged 2.6m so it's down 330k at the moment but the gap will close.

It's also up on 10 and 14 and level with 12.

Op I meant for the first week of each series. That's mostly cause of the really low launch figure though and it'll definitely close up now

[*mazedsalv**]

Op I meant for the first week of each series. That's mostly cause of the really low launch figure though and it'll definitely close up now

Yep, i got your message earlier (i'm the bloke who messaged you on Twitter!) :)

[supertv247]

Yep, i got your message earlier (i'm the bloke who messaged you on Twitter!) :)

That makes sense! My mistake for not being clear :laugh:

[Maxxie.]

100%

The series performance across the series is not the problem, the launch was. The series has held on to like 80% of the launch audience, when series usually hold ~60% of launch.

I wonder why was it so bad?? I mean it was on the 3rd of January, which historically is the best date to have a launch ratings wise, was it just the line up leaked cuz like CBB hasn't gotten that down hill?

[Cal.]

I wonder why was it so bad?? I mean it was on the 3rd of January, which historically is the best date to have a launch ratings wise, was it just the line up leaked cuz like CBB hasn't gotten that down hill?

I can't remember if I've said it in this thread or not but I remember saying it somewhere. I think it was a combination of-

-The All Stars concept putting people off.
-Bear winning last series put a lot of people off.
-The line-up getting leaked and full of relatively unknown people.
-The lack of Pricey/Hopkins/Perez/Tiffany which it seemed a lot of viewers were looking forward to.
-All of the All Stars being from summer series' which are lesser watched or from series' from years ago. Jasmine was the only celebrity from a recent winter series and even she was the second evicted that year and not one of the most memorable.

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.55m (7.1%) excl +1

[supertv247]

1.8 including +1 last night. No idea why it's not going up. By this week last year the week average was 2.3m and the following 2 weeks were 2.45 million after growing from 2.1m in week 1. This year has barely gone up 100k on last week.. And they've thrown everything at it

[Mrmattybeck]

Very strange to see cbb January under 2m so much


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[Firewire]

Is it?

[supertv247]

Is it?


Yeah... In the last 3 January series (CBB 13, 15, 17) of over 100+ episodes, a grand total of 7 have rated below 2 million. And one of them was an 8pm episode on a Monday....the rest were Fridays & Saturdays last year, and 1 Saturday during CBB13.

[RichardG]

it's a shame bc the last few days have been good but it had to decline eventually, no show can last forever

[supertv247]

it's a shame bc the last few days have been good but it had to decline eventually, no show can last forever

That's what we thought when CBB16 dipped below 2 million in officials, below even BB14 though... I think it is still capable, there just seems to be something wrong this year

[*mazedsalv**]

I again say this, I don;t know why people expect it to hit 2m+.

The show launched at 2.3m, it was hardly going to keep 2m+, when has that happened? Most shows drop half a million or much more from launch averages.

I always judge series performance from 1st HL show. The first HL show got 1.9m. And the series recently is at around 1.8m, it seems much better than other performances.

Yes, it is low for winter series, but with a launch of 2.3m, it was never going to hit 2m=. It's like expecting BB7 to have stayed at 7.7m which it launched with. BB8 launched with 6.5m and averaged 3.9m. BB9 averaged in the mid 5s but averaged 3.6m. CBB7 launched at 6.7m and averaged at 3.7m.

Even the very big C5 series dropped...

CBB8- Launched at 5.5m, averaged at 2.8m.
CBB9- Launched at 3.6, averaged at 2.6m.
CBB10- Launched at 3.00m, averaged at 2.00m (this series launched with less than this and averaging more)
CBB11= Launched at 3.8m- Average 2.8m
CBB12- 3.2- 2.3
CBB13- 3.7- 3.1
CBB14- 2.6- 2.1
CBB15- 3.7- 3.1
CBB16- 2.7- 1.9
CBB17- 3.3- 2.8
CBB18- 2.7- 2.1

Launch of this series was 2.8 official- so far 2.3m.

So, it's no more in trouble than any others with actual performance. This series launched at very similar ratings to CBB16/18 and currently up on them.

[supertv247]

I again say this, I don;t know why people expect it to hit 2m+.

The show launched at 2.3m, it was hardly going to keep 2m+, when has that happened? Most shows drop half a million or much more from launch averages.

I always judge series performance from 1st HL show. The first HL show got 1.9m. And the series recently is at around 1.8m, it seems much better than other performances.

Yes, it is low for winter series, but with a launch of 2.3m, it was never going to hit 2m=. It's like expecting BB7 to have stayed at 7.7m which it launched with. BB8 launched with 6.5m and averaged 3.9m. BB9 averaged in the mid 5s but averaged 3.6m. CBB7 launched at 6.7m and averaged at 3.7m.

Even the very big C5 series dropped...

CBB8- Launched at 5.5m, averaged at 2.8m.
CBB9- Launched at 3.6, averaged at 2.6m.
CBB10- Launched at 3.00m, averaged at 2.00m (this series launched with less than this and averaging more)
CBB11= Launched at 3.8m- Average 2.8m
CBB12- 3.2- 2.3
CBB13- 3.7- 3.1
CBB14- 2.6- 2.1
CBB15- 3.7- 3.1
CBB16- 2.7- 1.9
CBB17- 3.3- 2.8
CBB18- 2.7- 2.1

Launch of this series was 2.8 official- so far 2.3m.

So, it's no more in trouble than any others with actual performance. This series launched at very similar ratings to CBB16/18 and currently up on them.

I completely understand this but my question was why did it launch so much lower in the first place, and also not rise by an exceptional amount to make up for it

[*mazedsalv**]

I completely understand this but my question was why did it launch so much lower in the first place, and also not rise by an exceptional amount to make up for it

That's what I don't understand, only things I can think of it the All Stars thing put people off and because of Bear's win put people off?

But like I said, it was never going to rise, a rise from launch has only happened for CBB13 final, but for normal HL shows, probably, the race row? I can't think of it ever happening again, perhaps CBB15 the weekend of Katie Price's entrance? Last year one HL show matched launch.

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.88m (9.2%) incl +1

[Gstar]

Kim slightly increasing the ratings :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

That's around 250k up on last Tuesday.

[Mrmattybeck]

The comeback is on :cheer: [emoji28][emoji28][emoji28]


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[T*]

Hardly

[Mrmattybeck]

Still doesn't reflect this series is much better than the summer


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[azi]

@superTV247
RATINGS: #CBB topped 2 million viewers last night, making it the most watched episode of the series excl launch

https://twitter.com/superTV247/status/822018080616357888

Kim did that :clap1:

[supertv247]

Kim's impact

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.84m (8.3%) excl +1

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tonight must hit 2 million

[Ross.]

2.1m (9.5%) inc. +1
Peak: 2.5m (11.1%) "just before 10pm"

[*mazedsalv**]

Last night...

2.1m (9.5%)

Peak: 2.5m (11.1%) "just before 10pm

Impact :clap2:

[MB.]

The viewers tuning in for the start of Lauren Goodger: In Therapy?

[*mazedsalv**]

The viewers tuning in for the start of Lauren Goodger: In Therapy?

Shewishes

That got 600k

[Ross.]

Not everyone tuning in to see Kim get escorted out at the end

[supertv247]

A highlights show never usually peaks that much higher at all, so that's pretty good. And it went from 2.5 million at the end of BB to 0.7m for Lauren :laugh:
Hopefully this continues tonight and keeps it over 2 million

[Jake.]

Its good that it peaked at the best part tbf

[Vanessa]

Give Kim a pass to the final :clap1:

[Rob!]

Kim must win :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Celebrity Big Brother: 2.11m (9.9%) inc +1

Riding high!!

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 2.11m (9.9%) inc +1