Austrian cops raid refugee centre over ‘unprecedented’ New Year’s Eve mass sex attack

[Crimson Dynamo]

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AUSTRIAN cops raided a refugee centre today over the mass sex attacks against women on New Year’s Eve.

The operation came a day after police revealed an “unprecedented” 18 reports of assaults during the celebrations in Innsbruck.

Cops believe the suspects were in their late teens of either North African or Asian descent, it was reported by local newspaper Krone Zeitung.


The victims were from Austria and neighboring Italy, Germany and Switzerland, and most were aged between 19 and 25 years old. Most of the assaults were committed between 11.30pm and 1.30am, and 16 of the reported cases happened in the town's market square.

The attacks follow a spate of sexual assaults committed by asylum seekers in Austria over the past year. In August nine Iraqi refugees and asylum seekers were arrested as suspects in the rape of a 28-year-old woman during the early hours of January 1 2016.


Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/201701041049256804-austria-new-year-sex-attacks/

The attacks were a haunting reminder of the New Year’s Eve attacks in Cologne last year where hundreds of women were assaulted by migrants.
More than 25,000 people had gathered in Innsbruck’s main square to see in the New Year.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2544896/austrian-cops-raid-refugee-centre-over-unprecedented-new-years-eve-mass-sex-attacks-by-north-african-migrants/


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38522773

[Northern Monkey]

It was to be expected.In Vienna they were handing out rape alarms beforehand.This **** can only go on for so long before the people say enough is enough and European governments are forced to deal with the situation.There's only so much 'tolerance' that people have.

[arista]

Yes was on CNN HD
2 days back


Yes to some of those Punks
women are dogs

[UserSince2005]

white meat be sending these boys crazy

[jaxie]

I find it incredibly disturbing that groups of men seem to have no control over some kind of apparent sexual frenzy. WTF is wrong with them?

It doesn't matter where they come from or who they are, it's unacceptable in any society. Surely they understand this?

[user104658]

We should have known that this would happen. All of those sandy brown folks are rapists after all, it's just part of their culture, send them back, build a wall, cover it in pictures of pigs so that they won't be tempted to try to have sex with it. Am I rite?

[Jack_]

We should have known that this would happen. All of those sandy brown folks are rapists after all, it's just part of their culture, send them back, build a wall, cover it in pictures of pigs so that they won't be tempted to try to have sex with it. Am I rite?

:joker:

[jaxie]

We should have known that this would happen. All of those sandy brown folks are rapists after all, it's just part of their culture, send them back, build a wall, cover it in pictures of pigs so that they won't be tempted to try to have sex with it. Am I rite?

Well no you're not, I would expect anyone throughout the world to be able to act like a person and not a sex enraged animal. People have parents, families, education to teach them the basics of right and wrong. It doesn't matter where they come from. :shrug:

Oh sorry were you baiting folks by implying they are bigots? I like you but sometimes I'm disappointed.

And actually I'm going to add that this subject isn't funny.

[user104658]

Well no you're not, I would expect anyone throughout the world to be able to act like a person and not a sex enraged animal. People have parents, families, education to teach them the basics of right and wrong. It doesn't matter where they come from. :shrug:

Oh sorry were you baiting folks by implying they are bigots? I like you but sometimes I'm disappointed.

You are incorrect Jaxie, people from the Middle East do not have parents, they actually spawn from oil wells spontaneously and multiply exponentially when exposed to water. If they eat after midnight, they become sex-crazed and develop spikey knife-like tumors all over their bodies.

And no I'm not baiting anyone, I've simply realised that the path of least resistance is the easiest way to exist so I have adapted my opinions to be more palatable in "modern" Britain.

[jaxie]

You are incorrect Jaxie, people from the Middle East do not have parents, they actually spawn from oil wells spontaneously and multiply exponentially when exposed to water. If they eat after midnight, they become sex-crazed and develop spikey knife-like tumors all over their bodies.

And no I'm not baiting anyone, I've simply realised that the path of least resistance is the easiest way to exist so I have adapted my opinions to be more palatable in "modern" Britain.

How sad that discussion is being shut down like this.

[Jack_]

How sad that discussion is being shut down like this.

Satire doesn't shut down discussion. In fact if anything it does the opposite

[jaxie]

Satire doesn't shut down discussion. In fact if anything it does the opposite

Some subjects aren't funny. Attacking and terrorising others is one of them.

[Cherie]

How sad that discussion is being shut down like this.

It's easier than acknowledging there is a problem with some immigrants that needs to be addressed, lets sweep it all under the carpet and laugh at the women who have been assaulted because as long as it's immigrants doing the assaulting they should put up and shut up, am I rite?

[Jack_]

Some subjects aren't funny. Attacking and terrorising others is one of them.

To you maybe, humour is subjective. You seem to be missing the point, in satire (and in the case of TS's post) the butt of the joke isn't the victims or the situation, but rather popular opinion that surrounds said things. The humour comes from exposing how ludicrous some ideas are

It's like that Real Housewives of ISIS clip I posted yesterday. It's not taking the piss out of oppressed women who are being recruited by an appalling terrorist organisation, but rather ISIS itself

[jaxie]

To you maybe, humour is subjective. You seem to be missing the point, in satire (and in the case of TS's post) the butt of the joke isn't the victims or the situation, but rather popular opinion that surrounds said things. The humour comes from exposing how ludicrous some ideas are

It's like that Real Housewives of ISIS clip I posted yesterday. It's not taking the piss out of oppressed women who are being recruited by an appalling terrorist organisation, but rather ISIS itself

What and whose ideas are ludicrous? Specifics?

[jaxie]

It's easier than acknowledging there is a problem with some immigrants that needs to be addressed, lets sweep it all under the carpet and laugh at the women who have been assaulted because as long as it's immigrants doing the assaulting they should put up and shut up, am I rite?

I always admire what you have to say. You so often nail it.

[user104658]

It's easier than acknowledging there is a problem with some immigrants that needs to be addressed, lets sweep it all under the carpet and laugh at the women who have been assaulted because as long as it's immigrants doing the assaulting they should put up and shut up, am I rite?

It's a desperate cry for people to discuss the actual issues reasonably and rationally without all of the tabloid hysterics.

I will admit that I already know it's an entirely futile attempt.

[Jack_]

What and whose ideas are ludicrous? Specifics?

Well that would of course depend on the context, I was talking about satire in general :shrug: in the case of the video for example it would of course be the ludicrous recruitment processes and ideology of ISIS. You'd hope most would be able to discern that...

[jaxie]

It's a desperate cry for people to discuss the actual issues reasonably and rationally without all of the tabloid hysterics.

I will admit that I already know it's an entirely futile attempt.

You know you are starting to make me feel like I don't want to post in debates any longer. It feels futile to express any kind of opinion in here lately.

[Tom4784]

You know you are starting to make me feel like I don't want to post in debates any longer. It feels futile to express any kind of opinion in here lately.

Opinions are a two way street and everyone is entitled to them, not just you Jaxie.

If you can't handle differing opinions then that's on you.

[jaxie]

Opinions are a two way street and everyone is entitled to them, not just you Jaxie.

If you can't handle differing opinions then that's on you.

I wasn't speaking to you but thanks, would you like to drop a few labels as well while we are here?.

[Cherie]

Opinions are a two way street and everyone is entitled to them, not just you Jaxie.

If you can't handle differing opinions then that's on you.


What opinion has been expressed other than ha ha send em back, build a wall, pigs, arse, girls, you would get more sense out of Fr Jack

[Tom4784]

I wasn't speaking to you but thanks, would you like to drop a few labels as well while we are here?.

That seems like a bit of a random statement with no context or meaning to the discussion?

[jaxie]

That seems like a bit of a random statement with no context or meaning to the discussion?

Oh sorry I'll come back into the context. "ha ha send em back, build a wall, pigs, arse, girls"

[Tom4784]

What opinion has been expressed other than ha ha send em back, build a wall, pigs, arse, girls, you would get more sense out of Fr Jack

From what I understand, TS was mocking the sensationalism of the tabloid reporting on this subject and it's well within his rights to do that, he hasn't tried to repress anyone's right to an opinion with what he said, despite the fact that others in the topic tried to do exactly that to him by playing the outrage game.

It's just another case of people preaching about freedom of speech but only as long as it benefits them.

[Tom4784]

Oh sorry I'll come back into the context. "ha ha send em back, build a wall, pigs, arse, girls"

Okay that's a quote but where's the context or meaning relating to the subject at hand?

[Cherie]

From what I understand, TS was mocking the sensationalism of the tabloid reporting on this subject and it's well within his rights to do that, he hasn't tried to repress anyone's right to an opinion with what he said, despite the fact that others in the topic tried to do exactly that to him by playing the outrage game.

It's just another case of people preaching about freedom of speech but only as long as it benefits them.

im not outraged just increasingly depressed that the Far Right are being handed election victories in the future as no one is allowed to address issues that involve immigrants/refugees without bring called racist, we need to weed out these people who seek to abuse the hospitality of the country that takes them in by assaulting women. If I were a law abiding refugee I would want these people who are tarring me returned asap to where they came from, wouldn't you?

[jaxie]

From what I understand, TS was mocking the sensationalism of the tabloid reporting on this subject and it's well within his rights to do that, he hasn't tried to repress anyone's right to an opinion with what he said, despite the fact that others in the topic tried to do exactly that to him by playing the outrage game.

It's just another case of people preaching about freedom of speech but only as long as it benefits them.

It's nothing to do with free speech. I'm just tired of that kind of attitude coming up every time a topic like this comes up for discussion.

[arista]

We should have known that this would happen. All of those sandy brown folks are rapists after all, it's just part of their culture, send them back, build a wall, cover it in pictures of pigs so that they won't be tempted to try to have sex with it. Am I rite?

No TS
not all of them.
But Caught on Camera
a Big Group of Muslim went Wrong

No time for a Wall.
The Fecking German Leader Women
must GO now

[user104658]

It feels futile to express any kind of opinion in here lately.

See, now you're getting it!

[jaxie]

See, now you're getting it!

So is there a particular type of man or ethnicity we are allowed to discuss attacking women, or are any attacks on women by men a no go?

[user104658]

So is there a particular type of man or ethnicity we are allowed to discuss attacking women, or are any attacks on women by men a no go?
You can discuss middle eastern men attacking people BUT only if you use it as evidence that the countries they come from are primitive and violent, or to support Brexit / reduced immigration / dehumanisation of asylum seekers.

You can also discuss men and / or women of miscellaneous ethnicities being involved in attacks if it was mentioned in the Daily Mail or The Sun. Otherwise no go.

[Northern Monkey]

I mean it's been reported on atleast 3 news outlets.We can't deny that it's happened.You can't deny that it's a big problem and it's happening more and more often with mass migration from Arab countries and infact the migrants are the perpetrators:shrug:
We can't deny that women aren't treated with respect in those countries.
I mean we could just put our fingers in our ears and pretend it's not happening so we can look like the bastion of a tolerant society but that won't solve the problem.It's not racist to condemn sexual assault just because it's gangs of migrants who are doing it.It is ok speak out against it still...I think.Unless there's another EU policy i'm unaware of.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We should have known that this would happen. All of those sandy brown folks are rapists after all, it's just part of their culture, send them back, build a wall, cover it in pictures of pigs so that they won't be tempted to try to have sex with it. Am I rite?

trivialising 18 year old girls being sexually abused by men is pretty low

jesus wept

[user104658]

trivialising 18 year old girls being sexually abused by men is pretty low

jesus wept
Even if that's what I was doing, which it is not, is it lower than using 18 year old girls being sexually assaulted to "point score" in a game of told-u-so Brexit wars?

[Brillopad]

I mean it's been reported on atleast 3 news outlets.We can't deny that it's happened.You can't deny that it's a big problem and it's happening more and more often with mass migration from Arab countries and infact the migrants are the perpetrators:shrug:
We can't deny that women aren't treated with respect in those countries.
I mean we could just put our fingers in our ears and pretend it's not happening so we can look like the bastion of a tolerant society but that won't solve the problem.It's not racist to condemn sexual assault just because it's gangs of migrants who are doing it.It is ok speak out against it still...I think.Unless there's another EU policy i'm unaware of.

Spot on.

[jaxie]

Even if that's what I was doing, which it is not, is it lower than using 18 year old girls being sexually assaulted to "point score" in a game of told-u-so Brexit wars?

Who is doing that? Where on this thread did anyone say anything about Brexit?

[user104658]

Who is doing that? Where on this thread did anyone say anything about Brexit?
It's more or less constant, on here, in the media, wherever you happen to look.

[jaxie]

It's more or less constant, on here, in the media, wherever you happen to look.

So you're just making assumptions about what people will say on the subject and thinking for them. Wow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Even if that's what I was doing, which it is not, is it lower than using 18 year old girls being sexually assaulted to "point score" in a game of told-u-so Brexit wars?

SD and News

this is news

dont try and make excuses

[Tom4784]

im not outraged just increasingly depressed that the Far Right are being handed election victories in the future as no one is allowed to address issues that involve immigrants/refugees without bring called racist, we need to weed out these people who seek to abuse the hospitality of the country that takes them in by assaulting women. If I were a law abiding refugee I would want these people who are tarring me returned asap to where they came from, wouldn't you?

All opinions come with consequences, if someone calls another person a racist when they aren't then it's down to them to stand their ground and tell them why they are wrong.

I believe that people should not be tarred with the same brush, I believe the rapists should face the full extent of the law but I don't think it's fair to the victims that their ordeal becomes political ammunition to target a whole group of innocent people.

[user104658]

SD and News

this is news

dont try and make excuses
Yes, SD and News.

Not "gossip and tabloid rants".

Of course it's news and it should be discussed, I just wish we had a section where these stories could be discussed rationally and we could really go into the world's issues in rational detail, rather than the foot-stomping "outrage", pitchforks and hysteria.

[jaxie]

Yes, SD and News.

Not "gossip and tabloid rants".

Of course it's news and it should be discussed, I just wish we had a section where these stories could be discussed rationally and we could really go into the world's issues in rational detail, rather than the foot-stomping "outrage", pitchforks and hysteria.

The only foot stamping and hysterics is in what you said to derail the conversation. :shrug:

[Tom4784]

The only foot stamping and hysterics is in what you said to derail the conversation. :shrug:

Making a joke isn't exactly a good example of 'foot stamping and hysterics.' If you want examples of them then look no further than some of these posts.

Well no you're not, I would expect anyone throughout the world to be able to act like a person and not a sex enraged animal. People have parents, families, education to teach them the basics of right and wrong. It doesn't matter where they come from. :shrug:

Oh sorry were you baiting folks by implying they are bigots? I like you but sometimes I'm disappointed.

And actually I'm going to add that this subject isn't funny.

Some subjects aren't funny. Attacking and terrorising others is one of them.

How sad that discussion is being shut down like this.

[jaxie]

Making a joke isn't exactly a good example of 'foot stamping and hysterics.' If you want examples of them then look no further than some of these posts.

You obviously don't understand your own example. :shrug:

It's a shame users can't put a forum mod on ignore.

[user104658]

The only foot stamping and hysterics is in what you said to derail the conversation. :shrug:
So was I making flippant jokes and not taking it seriously, or was it foot stomping hysterics? :think:

[jaxie]

So was I making flippant jokes and not taking it seriously, or was it foot stomping hysterics? :think:

Well I don't know that foot stomping and hysterics are the right words really but those were the ones thrown out there so I went with them.

Let's just say it came over as disrespectful and leave it at that. Although maybe foot stomping could apply, I'm struggling to decide.

[Tom4784]

You obviously don't understand your own example. :shrug:

It's a shame users can't put a forum mod on ignore.

Aand there it is, a mention of the fact that I'm a mod. Wondered how long that would take.

I understand perfectly, it's not exactly hard to grasp is it?

[user104658]

Aand there it is, a mention of the fact that I'm a mod. Wondered how long that would take.

I understand perfectly, it's not exactly hard to grasp is it?
#justice4mods

[jaxie]

Aand there it is, a mention of the fact that I'm a mod. Wondered how long that would take.

I understand perfectly, it's not exactly hard to grasp is it?

It must be hard to grasp if you think I'm hysterical. :shrug:

Being unable to mute a mod is just a fact unfortunately. If you could I wouldn't have to read all the personal remarks.

[Jack_]

What a surprise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/frankfurt-mass-sexual-assault-refugees-fake-made-up-bild-germany-cologne-new-year-allegations-a7581291.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Not.

:rolleyes:

[Livia]

One story's allegedly fabricated, they must all be fabricated.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What a surprise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/frankfurt-mass-sexual-assault-refugees-fake-made-up-bild-germany-cologne-new-year-allegations-a7581291.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Not.

:rolleyes:

Why are you posting this in a thread about Austria, if you want to make your own thread feel free?

[Kizzy]

Not ' oh no, I was completely suckered by fake news' .... no, the rest of the reports are definitely not fake :joker:

[Brillopad]

One story's allegedly fabricated, they must all be fabricated.

It happened the previous year I believe and there are no such allegations about that being fabricated, so for those acting as if all is well and there is no reason for concern,with their laughing smilies, is naive and irresponsible.

Maybe we need to remind those victims that things are not ok because another similar incident turned out to be bogus, allegedly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not ' oh no, I was completely suckered by fake news' .... no, the rest of the reports are definitely not fake :joker:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-new-years-eve-mass-sex-attacks-leaked-document-a7130476.html

same newspaper

not really a laughing matter?

[Kizzy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-new-years-eve-mass-sex-attacks-leaked-document-a7130476.html

same newspaper

not really a laughing matter?

4 convictions 2 immigrants...what does that prove?

[Crimson Dynamo]

4 convictions 2 immigrants...what does that prove?

why what do you want it to prove, its criminality but for some reason you see the abuse of women as a joke?

[Kizzy]

why what do you want it to prove, its criminality but for some reason you see the abuse of women as a joke?

I see your reaching as a joke.

[Withano]

We should have known that this would happen. All of those sandy brown folks are rapists after all, it's just part of their culture, send them back, build a wall, cover it in pictures of pigs so that they won't be tempted to try to have sex with it. Am I rite?

I wish we were best friends in real life

[Northern Monkey]

Right then that's 'Bild' on the ban list along with the Mail and the Canary:laugh:

[Kizzy]

Right then that's 'Bild' on the ban list along with the Mail and the Canary:laugh:

Nothing wring with the canary :nono:

[Brillopad]

Nothing wring with the canary :nono:

Left wing drivel. As biased as you accuse the Mail of being.

[Kizzy]

Left wing drivel. As biased as you accuse the Mail of being.

What is wrong with left wing drivel... Does it marginalise or demonise anyone?
If you could explain the issue you have I may understand.