View Full Version : What's worse than what Trump said about Sweden? What is actually happening in Sweden!
Liberty4eva
20-02-2017, 11:02 PM
Thank god we finally have a president who will say The Emperor has no clothes.
The people who make my blood boil are the ones who knowingly participate in the destruction of their country. Donald Trump does not deserve one hundredth of the anger and hatred the leaders of Europe deserve for what they did to their countries. Sweden is the rape capital of the western world. It's a tragedy that such a beautiful country could be transformed so quickly.
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Denver
20-02-2017, 11:06 PM
Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart
Withano
20-02-2017, 11:16 PM
If Trump was accurate in his rant - nobody would have reacted, it would have just been another angry rant. Easy to ignore. But he wasnt accurate, he was spouting out ****, inaccurate and irresponsible lies to millions. Why his fanboys are okay with this is beyond me, but thats no the point im trying to make.
He runs a country, he has a job, his job isnt to make up stats and lies to anyone that will listen. If he does do this, the right and the left should condemn his words. Because somehow, he has become a man of power and the words he says, and the lies he tells will have a reactionsry effect especially if his fanboys continue to blindly follow him into his weird dystopian world.
the truth
20-02-2017, 11:17 PM
trump the only person with the balls to highlight the truth
Withano
20-02-2017, 11:20 PM
Worst thing is; I'm pretty sure he meant to say Sewan in Pakistan.. but just misspoke and was too stubborn to say he misspoke, so instead just let his fanboys make sense of his incorrect words for him.
(or misheard the news report and actually did mean Sweden due to carelessness)
Kazanne
21-02-2017, 07:44 AM
Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart
Funny thing is Adam,I don't think he is , it's some of it's people who will do that.
Toy Soldier
21-02-2017, 08:22 AM
Funny thing is Adam,I don't think he is , it's some of it's people who will do that.
If the general population start tearing a country apart, it is invariably due to a flaw in that country's leadership. Civilisations have fallen all throughout history and it's not because the average people suddenly "went bad".
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2017, 08:36 AM
If Trump was accurate in his rant - nobody would have reacted, it would have just been another angry rant. Easy to ignore. But he wasnt accurate, he was spouting out ****, inaccurate and irresponsible lies to millions. Why his fanboys are okay with this is beyond me, but thats no the point im trying to make.
He runs a country, he has a job, his job isnt to make up stats and lies to anyone that will listen. If he does do this, the right and the left should condemn his words. Because somehow, he has become a man of power and the words he says, and the lies he tells will have a reactionsry effect especially if his fanboys continue to blindly follow him into his weird dystopian world.
who reacted were those running Sweden obviously
do you think those in charge would be like :clap2: yes we are overseeing this
:joker:
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2017, 08:37 AM
Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart
Really and what evidence do you have that America is being torn apart since January?
Northern Monkey
21-02-2017, 08:41 AM
If the general population start tearing a country apart, it is invariably due to a flaw in that country's leadership. Civilisations have fallen all throughout history and it's not because the average people suddenly "went bad".
I think that is probably true but then i would be inclined to be blaming the previous leaderships who made the people feel so let down that they voted for change.Any change.
Not to mention the absolutely horrendous choice they were given.I honestly wouldn't have voted if i was an American.
Withano
21-02-2017, 09:08 AM
If Trump was accurate in his rant - nobody would have reacted.
who reacted were those running Sweden obviously
do you think those in charge would be like :clap2: yes we are overseeing this
:joker:
Yes Sweden reacted, you and I are reacting, millions of other people are reacting because the president of America just stood on stage and either deliberately lied, accidentally misspoke, or carelessly misheard huge information.
If he didnt do this, nobody would have reacted.
the truth
21-02-2017, 09:26 AM
Yes Sweden reacted, you and I are reacting, millions of other people are reacting because the president of America just stood on stage and either deliberately lied, accidentally misspoke, or carelessly misheard huge information.
If he didnt do this, nobody would have reacted.
yes and the loony left would have continued to ignore the massive rise in sex crimes just as they did in rochdale
Withano
21-02-2017, 10:26 AM
yes and the loony left would have continued to ignore the massive rise in sex crimes just as they did in rochdale
This isnt topical. It isnt new news. You were doing this yesterday too about Labour in 1997, asking why people care more about Trump 2017. I dont really know why it confuses you. People dont wait for months or years to gather an opinion.
Obviously sex crimes anywhere ever are horrific. I just read through a 'transgender rights in prison' and 'ukip letting those with violent pasts run' threads where the posts inside would both suggest that the "left" care a hell of a lot more than the "right" about sex crimes in general.
You cant take an outdated news story and assume that those who dont reply never cared - they probably did when the news story was fresh, they probably could write for days about their feelings, but this thread didnt exist half a year ago, and a thread asking people to recollect their thoughts on old news story are unlikely to ever be popular.
You added 1 and 1 together and got 35 (again)
Livia
21-02-2017, 11:16 AM
The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.
The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.
There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2017, 11:22 AM
The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.
The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.
There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.
:clap1:
Northern Monkey
21-02-2017, 11:22 AM
The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.
The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.
There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.
True and i think Angela Merkel will have played a very very big role in that.
Livia
21-02-2017, 11:24 AM
True and i think Angela Merkel will have played a very very big role in that.
I think I'm looking forward to Merkel's election the most. I had a couple of German friends staying last week... they are very worried about the rise of the Hard Right and set the blame for it squarely at Frau Merkel's feet.
Northern Monkey
21-02-2017, 11:25 AM
I think I'm looking forward to Merkel's election the most. I had a couple of German friends staying last week... they are very worried about the rise of the Hard Right and set the blame for it squarely at Frau Merkel's feet.
That is interesting to hear that German people see it how we do from the outside.
Livia
21-02-2017, 11:28 AM
That is interesting to hear that German people see it how we do from the outside.
My friends come from a rural location near the Dutch border... even they have seen a change in their local towns and villages with massive amounts of newcomers. It is not sustainable.
Denver
21-02-2017, 11:33 AM
Really and what evidence do you have that America is being torn apart since January?
The amount of mistakes he has already made, His unprofessionalism and his threat to kill spies
Tom4784
21-02-2017, 12:44 PM
It's just a case of Trump's supporters trying to invent a story to go with his lies to try to validate them.
Livia
21-02-2017, 01:17 PM
I don't think it's Trump supporters. I am not a Trump supporter... and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. My fella is looking at moving to the UK when we get married because he doesn't want to live in a country with Trump as president, and neither do I. That's how much of a Trump supporter I am. The man's terrifying. But that doesn't mean to say that what's happening in Europe is being "made up". To deny there is a problem is just as dangerous as the problem itself. It's the continual denial that's led to a backlash.
Withano
21-02-2017, 01:27 PM
I don't think it's Trump supporters. I am not a Trump supporter... and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. My fella is looking at moving to the UK when we get married because he doesn't want to live in a country with Trump as president, and neither do I. That's how much of a Trump supporter I am. The man's terrifying. But that doesn't mean to say that what's happening in Europe is being "made up". To deny there is a problem is just as dangerous as the problem itself. It's the continual denial that's led to a backlash.
Everywhere I look its only Trump supporters claiming that by 'What happened in Sweden yesterday' Trump probs meant 'what happened in Sweden several months ago and definitely wasnt covered on Fox news yesterday'
It would be insane to jump to that conclusion.. unless youre a Trump fan.. then it kinda makes sense that you would think that..
the truth
21-02-2017, 01:28 PM
I don't think it's Trump supporters. I am not a Trump supporter... and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. My fella is looking at moving to the UK when we get married because he doesn't want to live in a country with Trump as president, and neither do I. That's how much of a Trump supporter I am. The man's terrifying. But that doesn't mean to say that what's happening in Europe is being "made up". To deny there is a problem is just as dangerous as the problem itself. It's the continual denial that's led to a backlash.
exactly. the left are still in denial even after the horrors of rochdale
Livia
21-02-2017, 01:33 PM
Everywhere I look its only Trump supporters claiming that by 'What happened in Sweden yesterday' Trump probs meant 'what happened in Sweden several months ago and definitely wasnt covered on Fox news yesterday'
It would be insane to jump to that conclusion.. unless youre a Trump fan.. then it kinda makes sense that you would think that..
I AM NOT A TRUMP FAN.
Can you see that? Do you understand it? Please try to understand it. You saying I am when I have stated CLEARLY that I am not, is trolling. Please desist.
Withano
21-02-2017, 01:35 PM
I AM NOT A TRUMP FAN.
Can you see that? Do you understand it? Please try to understand it. You saying I am when I have stated CLEARLY that I am not, is trolling. Please desist.
I didnt say you was hun. I said people who jump to weird conclusions to support trumps weird rants appear to be.
Livia
21-02-2017, 01:36 PM
I didnt say you was hun. I said people who jump to weird conclusions to support trumps weird rants appear to be.
So why did you quote my post?
the truth
21-02-2017, 01:37 PM
I didnt say you was hun. I said people who jump to weird conclusions to support trumps weird rants appear to be.
No they dont you just jump to conclusions against everything he says and you of course choose to ignore the facts and you deliberately fail to join up the dots i.e. mass undoctored immigration across 30 odd nations has serious repercussions such as rochdale child rapes and slavery, berlin molestations and rape rises, swedish massive rises in sex crimes. you ignore these facts, others wont. The public deserve protection.
Withano
21-02-2017, 01:50 PM
So why did you quote my post?
You said that you "don't think it's Trump supporters", I was explaining why I think it probably is.
Withano
21-02-2017, 01:54 PM
No they dont you just jump to conclusions against everything he says and you of course choose to ignore the facts and you deliberately fail to join up the dots i.e. mass undoctored immigration across 30 odd nations has serious repercussions such as rochdale child rapes and slavery, berlin molestations and rape rises, swedish massive rises in sex crimes. you ignore these facts, others wont. The public deserve protection.
My theory was that Trump probably meant Sewan in Pakistan yesterday, not Sweden. Thats barely me going against him. Its a hell of a lot more rational than Trump meaning all of what you just went on about in the 5 or 6 words he used lol.
the truth
21-02-2017, 01:54 PM
You said that you "don't think it's Trump supporters", I was explaining why I think it probably is.
yes its just trump fans who noticed the massive illegal immigration problems across europe, the terrorism, the crime, the huge rise in sexual crime, the 20 years of child abuse in rochdale etc etc etc
Withano
21-02-2017, 01:55 PM
yes its just trump fans who noticed the massive illegal immigration problems across europe, the terrorism, the crime, the huge rise in sexual crime, the 20 years of child abuse in rochdale etc etc etc
You need a coffee break.
the truth
21-02-2017, 01:56 PM
My theory was that Trump probably meant Sewan in Pakistan yesterday, not Sweden. Thats barely me going against him. Its a hell of a lot more rationale than Trump meaning all of what you just went on about in the 5 or 6 words he used lol.
no rationale at all...youre just ignoring the massive problems with mass immigration and open borders and ignoring all the victims of these crazy situation and youre choosing instead to take piffling petty inconsequential points
Withano
21-02-2017, 01:59 PM
no rationale at all...youre just ignoring the massive problems with mass immigration and open borders and ignoring all the victims of these crazy situation and youre choosing instead to take piffling petty inconsequential points
I am discussing Trumps weird little rant yesterday, what he meant to say, and how others have interpreted it. You are giving my posts some weird context and filling in the gaps with things you want me to say. You're venting and its verging on incoherent.
Liberty4eva
21-02-2017, 08:32 PM
Last night in Sweden more Muslim immigrants got confused and forgot that they practice the religion of peace.
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You would think these people would be wise to not prove Trump right and thereby embarrass their liberal allies who are helping them to clandestinely destroy Sweden?
:shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug:
Denver
21-02-2017, 08:36 PM
Where is the proof it was from last night or in fact Sweden?
Merged with the other thread you made on Trump and Sweden less than 24 hours ago
ebandit
21-02-2017, 09:02 PM
Merged with the other thread you made on Trump and Sweden less than 24 hours ago
...if it had not been for mr trump 'n these threads i woulda forgotten that
sweden even existed........................................... .....
Mark L
..............i remember now i did read ''the girl.....who did' trilogy..............
...if it had not been for mr trump 'n these threads i woulda forgotten that
sweden even existed........................................... .....
Mark L
..............i remember now i did read ''the girl.....who did' trilogy..............
Good books they were too, never got round to the new one in that series by a different author
arista
21-02-2017, 09:04 PM
Where is the proof it was from last night or in fact Sweden?
No it was months ago.
But
Cause and Effect
Matter in this World.
arista
21-02-2017, 09:13 PM
Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart
Thats Not True
the Horrible Woman Clinton
did it.
By Calling all Half of the Nation
horrible words.
Adam
FACT
arista
22-02-2017, 06:37 PM
On BBCworldNewsHD
Sweden is in crisis.
There is a major problem with migrants
the truth
22-02-2017, 08:11 PM
Thats Not True
the Horrible Woman Clinton
did it.
By Calling all Half of the Nation
horrible words.
Adam
FACT
yep killary called them a "a basket of deplorables.....she said half the republican covers were all sexist racist homophobic islamaphobic etc "
what a vile hypocritical corporate lackey warmongering bigot she is
Brillopad
23-02-2017, 07:07 PM
You need a coffee break.
So do you Hun.
Withano
23-02-2017, 07:18 PM
So do you Hun.
I know you are but what am I?
Good one.
Brillopad
23-02-2017, 07:37 PM
I know you are but what am I?
Good one.
I am not PC when it suits.
Withano
23-02-2017, 09:50 PM
I am not PC when it suits.
I feel like you said that to try and insult me, when actually... actively choosing not to be politically correct when its suitable only makes you look bad. So thanks I guess.
the truth
23-02-2017, 10:09 PM
I feel like you said that to try and insult me, when actually... actively choosing not to be politically correct when its suitable only makes you look bad. So thanks I guess.
no it really doesnt
Withano
23-02-2017, 10:48 PM
no it really doesnt
Purposely being politically incorrect when its not suitable to be so makes you a dick. So.
Kizzy
23-02-2017, 11:34 PM
The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.
The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.
There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.
This is the biggest load of rubbish I have read on here for quite the while, suggesting the rise of the alt right is anyones fault other than those who spout constant waves of propaganda is quite frankly ridiculous.
You can attempt to redirect blame to anyone but the people with the agenda, but it won't wash.
If there is a fascist uprising, I'll blame the fascists.... nobody else.
the truth
23-02-2017, 11:36 PM
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This is the biggest load of rubbish I have read on here for quite the while, suggesting the rise of the alt right is anyones fault other than those who spout constant waves of propaganda is quite frankly ridiculous.
You can attempt to redirect blame to anyone but the people with the agenda, but it won't wash.
If there is a fascist uprising, I'll blame the fascists.... nobody else.
absolute nonsense. Livia is 100% spot on, the loony left opened the door for the rabid right, any other way to interpret it is complete and utter delusion
Kizzy
23-02-2017, 11:39 PM
absolute nonsense. Livia is 100% spot on, the loony left opened the door for the rabid right, any other way to interpret it is complete and utter delusion
The door never closed post war, except now there's new groups to demonise and for some reason that's ok :/
the truth
23-02-2017, 11:55 PM
The door never closed post war, except now there's new groups to demonise and for some reason that's ok :/
the loony left murdered 1 million innocents, thats real demonisation
Brillopad
24-02-2017, 04:20 AM
I feel like you said that to try and insult me, when actually... actively choosing not to be politically correct when its suitable only makes you look bad. So thanks I guess.
That makes no sense - just an attempt to divert attention from your weak attempts to undermine female posters with sexist remarks, believe me resorting to that is what looks bad. You want it both ways so don't expect to be taken seriously.
Withano
24-02-2017, 10:13 AM
That makes no sense - just an attempt to divert attention from your weak attempts to undermine female posters with sexist remarks, believe me resorting to that is what looks bad. You want it both ways so don't expect to be taken seriously.
Tf are you on about?! Are you drunk?!
Crimson Dynamo
28-02-2017, 10:29 AM
Iranian born Swedish left wing politician does everything she can to deny the problem but in the end just illustrates why their really IS a huge problem
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