Labour plan to allow thousands of unskilled workers move to the UK

[Denver]

Theresa May has claimed Labour wants to introduce a system of “uncontrolled migration” after the party’s secret plan to allow thousands of unskilled workers to enter the UK after Brexit was leaked.

The Prime Minister today promised to deliver “proper control of our immigration” and to introduce restrictions on people coming to Britain from the European Union.

It comes after a document was leaked to The Telegraph which showed Labour is considering bringing back a scrapped visa scheme that allows unskilled migrants to move to the UK despite concerns that they stop British workers from winning seasonal jobs on farms and in factories.

Labour’s policy paper sets out plans for a green card scheme and admits the party does not consider cutting net migration a priority.


The party’s position is likely to be of great concern to its MP candidates in the north of England where control of immigration was a key concern during the EU referendum campaign.

Mrs May said on Wednesday that there is a “very clear choice” on the issue of immigration on June 8.

She said: "What we need to do is have proper control of our immigration and, of course, we are going to be able to put in rules for people coming from the EU to the UK once we leave the European Union.

"There's a very clear choice at this election, there's a very clear difference between myself and Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party.

"I want to ensure we are controlling migration because too high uncontrolled migration puts pressure on our public services but it also lowers wages at the lower end of the income scale.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/31/theresa-may-claims-labour-wants-uncontrolled-migration-post/

[Denver]

Another reason the idiot should not be put in charge

[Denver]

But i am here for Labour losing seats because of it

[joeysteele]

It's a merely thought memo,it is NOT Labour party policy,it is NOT in the Labour Manifesto.
So it is has no basis at all,it is just what someone connected to Labour may think.
It is not,I repeat not, Labour policy at all.

It has no more merit than what any individual in any Party may think on any given issue.

It was discussed at length on the Daily Politics today by Andrew Neill.

[DemolitionRed]

It's a merely thought memo,it is NOT Labour party policy,it is NOT in the Labour Manifesto.
So it is has no basis at all,it is just what someone connected to Labour may think.
It is not,I repeat not, Labour policy at all.

It has no more merit than what any individual in any Party may think on any given issue.

It was discussed at length on the Daily Politics today by Andrew Neill.

I agree and the ridiculous thing is, why doesn't she try concentrating on her own policies instead of constantly trying to slur Labour?

[joeysteele]

I agree and the ridiculous thing is, why doesn't she try concentrating on her own policies instead of constantly trying to slur Labour?

She doesn't want to discuss her policies in any detail, clearly a lot of unsavoury stuff must be part of said policies.

[Firewire]

The more the merrier

[Denver]

The more the merrier

are you prepare to give up your house?

[Firewire]

are you prepare to give up your house?

Why would I need to do that?

[DemolitionRed]

are you prepare to give up your house?

Oh don't be so dramatic!!

[LukeB]

here for them and the bigots will fume :love:

[Denver]

Why would I need to do that?

because the UK is already overcrowed there is literally no room left

[Denver]

Plus you should only be allowed in this country if you are worth something to the country

[Denver]

here for them and the bigots will fume :love:

when labour supporters are against it?

[Brillopad]

She doesn't want to discuss her policies in any detail, clearly a lot of unsavoury stuff must be part of said policies.

Only for those with an over-active imagination and/or an agenda.

[Firewire]

because the UK is already overcrowed there is literally no room left

There's loads of room

Plus you should only be allowed in this country if you are worth something to the country

What about those who are born here but are worth nothing to the country?

[Denver]

There's loads of room

Yet we have thousands of homeless

What about those who are born here but are worth nothing to the country?

They are entitled to be here having been born here but i have no time for people coming here and stealing benefits

[Firewire]

They are entitled to be here having been born here but i have no time for people coming here and stealing benefits

I see

[Brillopad]

There's loads of room



What about those who are born here but are worth nothing to the country?

Loads of room - for how long I wonder.

We have enough of our own non-contributors why would we want everyone else's. Strange logic.

[LukeB]

What about those who are born here but are worth nothing to the country?

This exactly.Some 'foreigners' do more and contribute more than people who are born here. But that will not be mentioned.

[LukeB]

They are entitled to be here having been born here but i have no time for people coming here and stealing benefits

People who are born here also steal benefits....stop being ignorant

[Denver]

People who are born here also steal benefits....stop being ignorant

But they are entitled to that because they are what benefits were invented for

[Firewire]

Loads of room - for how long I wonder.

We have enough of our own non-contributors why would we want everyone else's. Strange logic.

Because people can't help which country they are born in

If they want a better life and want the opportunity to succeed they should be able to do that wherever they so desire

I'd like to think that if I wanted to move abroad for better opportunities I'd be welcomed with open arms.

This exactly.Some 'foreigners' do more and contribute more than people who are born here. But that will not be mentioned.

tbh

[Brillopad]

This exactly.Some 'foreigners' do more and contribute more than people who are born here. But that will not be mentioned.

Some being the operative word. Which is exactly what Adam is saying. We only want skilled migrants like many other parts of the world. What most don't want is everyone and anyone. That way we end up with more crime, more terrorism and more benefit claimants.

[Marsh.]

Plus you should only be allowed in this country if you are worth something to the country

Why? The majority of the people born here aren't worth anything so what's the point.

[Denver]

Because people can't help which country they are born in

If they want a better life and want the opportunity to succeed they should be able to do that wherever they so desire

I'd like to think that if I wanted to move abroad for better opportunities I'd be welcomed with open arms.


going to another country to claim benefits is not bettering yourself

[Denver]

Australia is the best country when it comes to immigrants they wont just take anyone in

[Firewire]

going to another country to claim benefits is not bettering yourself

It is if you have absolutely nothing

[Firewire]

Australia is the best country when it comes to immigrants they wont just take anyone in

How can they be the best for immigrants if they don't let anyone in?

[Marsh.]

But they are entitled to that because they are what benefits were invented for

Huh?

Benefits were invented for the people born here to illegally claim? They are entitled to do that because they were born in this country?

Are you really that dumb or did you misread what Luke wrote?

[Black Dagger]

Plus you should only be allowed in this country if you are worth something to the country

So why are you here?

[Denver]

Huh?

Benefits were invented for the people born here to illegally claim? They are entitled to do that because they were born in this country?

Are you really that dumb or did you misread what Luke wrote?

for people who are struggling

[Denver]

So why are you here?

Is that racism?

[Denver]

How can they be the best for immigrants if they don't let anyone in?

Because only skilled workers are allowed

[Firewire]

Because only skilled workers are allowed

But if you are an immigrant then it's not the best for you :shrug:

[Brillopad]

Because people can't help which country they are born in



I'd like to think that if I wanted to move abroad for better opportunities I'd be welcomed with open arms.





That's all well and good in theory but when a small island starts to become swamped by people from less well-off parts of the world eventually having a detrimental effect on the indiginous population - it becomes a problem.

The locals have rights too.

[Black Dagger]

Is that racism?

Lmao

[Denver]

Lmao

Well i took that as i shouldnt be in this country because my grandad wasnt born here so it seems blatant racism

[Firewire]

Well i took that as i shouldnt be in this country because my grandad wasnt born here so it seems blatant racism

That's the way your views come across

[Marsh.]

for people who are struggling

Luke didn't mention those people though?

You always seem to respond to posts with almost a completely different response that has almost nothing to do with what was said.

It's not a conversation and more like random statements.

[Denver]

That's the way your views come across

I am a british citizen who pays my taxes i have a right to have an opinion on where my money goes

[Marsh.]

Because only skilled workers are allowed

Was your grandad a skilled worker?

[Marsh.]

who pays my taxes

You told me you were unemployed though. :think:

[Brillopad]

Was your grandad a skilled worker?

He was born here. What does that have to do with anything?

[Denver]

You told me you were unemployed though. :think:

I was last year for like a month i told you i had been on benefits not that i was

[Denver]

Was your grandad a skilled worker?

No but he was part of the commonwealth so it didnt matter and he jumped into a job where he learnt skills and said with the same company for 50 years

[Marsh.]

He was born here. What does that have to do with anything?

No he wasn't. Adam said his Grandad moved over here.

[Marsh.]

No but he was part of the commonwealth so it didnt matter and he jumped into a job where he learnt skills and said with the same company for 50 years

So why not give other people that same chance to build their skills they wouldn't be allowed to do in their own countries?

[Kazanne]

Because people can't help which country they are born in

If they want a better life and want the opportunity to succeed they should be able to do that wherever they so desire

I'd like to think that if I wanted to move abroad for better opportunities I'd be welcomed with open arms.



tbh

But you wouldn't be and that's a fact

[Denver]

So why not give other people that same chance to build their skills they wouldn't be allowed to do in their own countries?

Because we should force our youngsters into skilled jobs.

it was not a problem back then many youngsters would do all types of jobs but its hard to even motivate a youngster these days all most care about is drinking.

We can easily train up all of the young unemployed

[Brillopad]

So why not give other people that same chance to build their skills they wouldn't be allowed to do in their own countries?

Not on mass though - that's the real problem.

That way this country will become over-crowded sooner rather than later. Is that what you want?

[Firewire]

They're welcome in Scotland

We are nowhere near overcrowded

[Marsh.]

Not on mass though - that's the real problem.

That way this country will become over-crowded sooner rather than later. Is that what you want?

Who's claiming on mass?

Are you over-exaggerating again?

[Marsh.]

But you wouldn't be and that's a fact

Don't be mean! Jono would be welcome into my country with open arms. :fist:

[Marsh.]

Because we should force our youngsters into skilled jobs.

it was not a problem back then many youngsters would do all types of jobs but its hard to even motivate a youngster these days all most care about is drinking.

We can easily train up all of the young unemployed

So we've gone from generalising and making assumptions about "immigrants" to generalising and making assumptions about "lazy workshy and drinking youngsters".


:facepalm:

[Firewire]

But you wouldn't be and that's a fact

I probably would be actually

[Firewire]

Don't be mean! Jono would be welcome into my country with open arms. :fist:

And open legs am I right ladies

[Denver]

So we've gone from generalising and making assumptions about "immigrants" to generalising and making assumptions about "lazy workshy and drinking youngsters".


:facepalm:

The jobs half of these immigrants come over for are not skilled and unemployed brits should be made to do them instead

[Brillopad]

Who's claiming on mass?

Are you over-exaggerating again?

Seriously that won't happen will it. Have you seen the estimated figures of people waiting in Turkey and other parts of the world to come to Europe and Britain.

The West is a desirable place to be - of course it will happen.

[Firewire]

The jobs half of these immigrants come over for are not skilled and unemployed brits should be made to do them instead

You can't make an unemployed person do a job they don't want to do

That's slavery

[Marsh.]

The jobs half of these immigrants come over for are not skilled and unemployed brits should be made to do them instead

The vast majority of unemployed would love nothing more than to be given a job.

You acting like they're all workshy layabouts is bigoted and just untrue.

[Firewire]

Seriously that won't happen will it. Have you seen the estimated figures of people waiting in Turkey and other parts of the world to come to Europe and Britain.

The West is a desirable place to be - of course it will happen.

And have you seen the figures of immigrants who have settled in turkey?

They are having a better life already, not all of them want to come to Britain

[Denver]

You can't make an unemployed person do a job they don't want to do

That's slavery

Yes you can if they refuse to work they dont get benefits nothing is for free in this country

[smudgie]

You can't make an unemployed person do a job they don't want to do

That's slavery

Aye, in my day it was called choice, take work, any work or starve.:shrug:

[Denver]

Also slaves dont get paid

[Denver]

The vast majority of unemployed would love nothing more than to be given a job.

You acting like they're all workshy layabouts is bigoted and just untrue.

You not seen the amount of kids turn their nose up at jobs in fast food or street cleaning

[Brillopad]

You can't make an unemployed person do a job they don't want to do

That's slavery

You can if they receive benefits. If they can physically do the job they should do it until something better comes along. Nothing is for free in this world.

[Marsh.]

Yes you can if they refuse to work they dont get benefits nothing is for free in this country

Right, and how many of our benefits claimants are doing so because they simply don't want to work?

[Firewire]

You can if they receive benefits. If they can physically do the job they should do it until something better comes along. Nothing is for free in this world.

Okay fair enough

I don't know much about receiving benefits since I've never had to do it

[Alf]

Seriously that won't happen will it. Have you seen the estimated figures of people waiting in Turkey and other parts of the world to come to Europe and Britain.

The West is a desirable place to be - of course it will happen.That's capitalism for you. Everyone wants it, even if they say the don't.

[Denver]

Right, and how many of our benefits claimants are doing so because they simply don't want to work?
All this people on Benefits programmes saying they wont work unless they earn 20k+ a year

[reece(:]

Scaremongering thread - total BS.

[Firewire]

All this people on Benefits programmes saying they wont work unless they earn 20k+ a year

You can't take benefit porn programmes as fact

[Kazanne]

Don't be mean! Jono would be welcome into my country with open arms. :fist:

:laugh: People just think they can go to any country and be welcomed,it's just NOT true Marsh.

[Denver]

You can't take benefit porn programmes as fact

It is common thing though you just have to look through the media or social media to see people demanding unreasonable wages

[Marsh.]

Okay fair enough

I don't know much about receiving benefits since I've never had to do it

Well they don't just hand out free money to anyone and everyone who is too lazy to work, no matter how much people would like to believe that.

[Marsh.]

All this people on Benefits programmes saying they wont work unless they earn 20k+ a year

If you're getting your education on subjects like this from benefits programmes then give your head a wobble lad.

Those are over exaggerated, and done to incite hatred towards the working classes.

Anyone who believes there's an ounce of truth in these White Dee programmes, much less that they represent a MAJORITY really needs to stop watching such crap.

They don't represent real people anymore than EastEnders or Coronation Street does.

[Brillopad]

Okay fair enough

I don't know much about receiving benefits since I've never had to do it

It's supposed to be a short-term safety net for those in genuine need - not a long-term solution for those who would prefer not to work.

[Glenn.]

Why would we want unskilled migrants in the country?

[Beso]

Yes they must be allowed in.

To show how diverse we are, let them in then house them all in one area of each town and city...yes..lets do that to show our diversity

[Brillopad]

Why would we want unskilled migrants in the country?

Apparently we need them more than they need us! :shrug:

We should only accept as many as we need. Beyond that it's not in our interests to do so.