How many more rights does the LGBT Community need in the UK?

[Glenn.]

Asking for a friend

[Shaun]

Legal rights are pretty much equal but if you're asking this from a "we should give up pride and stop challenging homophobia" stance then it's quite obviously still a problem.

However I'm blurry on the rights of trans people.

[Denver]

I would like Men to be allowed to start giving birth

[Withano]

Its not really a right, but the fact that gay men cant donate blood seems a bit backwards. I'm pretty sure UK has its **** together on every other lgbt stance?

[Glenn.]

Legal rights are pretty much equal but if you're asking this from a "we should give up pride and stop challenging homophobia" stance then it's quite obviously still a problem.

However I'm blurry on the rights of trans people.

No not at all. I'm curious as to what legal rights gay people have in this country. Tbh I don't pay that much attention to it. I know marriage etc has been legalised. Just wondered if there was anything else that had to be legalised.

[Withano]

Oh just checked, Scotland and Northern Ireland havent passed an annulment of convictions law, implying that there might still be prisoners that were sentenced for the crime of being gay.

[Shaun]

Adoption - to the best of my knowledge - is now relatively equal although I can't help but suspect that same-sex couples would be placed under more scrutiny than opposite-sex ones.

There isn't really anything else that relationships come into regarding the law, is there?

[Niamh.]

Oh just checked, Scotland and Northern Ireland havent passed an annulment of convictions law, implying that there might still be prisoners that were sentenced for the crime of being gay.

Gay Marriage is still illegal in NI I think

[Withano]

Also conversion therapy isnt banned yet in the UK apparently which is terrible?? How

[Withano]

Gay Marriage is still illegal in NI I think

Oh yeah true, still a fair while to go

[AnnieK]

Its not really a right, but the fact that gay men cant donate blood seems a bit backwards. I'm pretty sure UK has its **** together on every other lgbt stance?

I didn't know this, that's absurd. Anyone who wants to and meets the criteria (not HIV+, had a recent op or tatoo etc) should be welcomed with open arms to donate blood.

[JoshBB]

How many rights? As much as possible tbh.. keep em coming

[jaxie]

Its not really a right, but the fact that gay men cant donate blood seems a bit backwards. I'm pretty sure UK has its **** together on every other lgbt stance?

I think you will find that was health related because of the higher incidents of HIV in the gay community through the 80s and 90s and early difficulties in diagnosis rather than a prejudice against sexuality.

[Tom4784]

I think you will find that was health related because of the higher incidents of HIV in the gay community through the 80s and 90s and early difficulties in diagnosis rather than a prejudice against sexuality.

Doesn't explain why it's still an issue now when the Aids Crisis has been a memory for decades.

[MB.]

Cases of HIV among gay men are on the rise but yeah, it's a ridiculously outdated stipulation

[DemolitionRed]

I would like Men to be allowed to start giving birth Me too or at least have to go through labour pains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdFdmE9A84

[Withano]

I think you will find that was health related because of the higher incidents of HIV in the gay community through the 80s and 90s and early difficulties in diagnosis rather than a prejudice against sexuality.

Jesus, Jaxie! It's 2017!
I should hope they test a heterosexual mans blood before funneling it into someone(?), if so the same should be done for a gay man, if not then thats a huge concern in itself. What an odd thing to fight about.

[thesheriff443]

There is still a big problem with gay men meeting strangers for sex in well know country side locations, councils keep cutting down vegetation, these areas are filled with used condoms tissues and lube.
The police do patrols but not enough, I think they turn a blind eye to it if I'm honest,

[DemolitionRed]

Jesus, Jaxie! It's 2017!
I should hope they test a herosexual mans blood before funneling it into someone(?), if so the same should be done for a gay man, if not then thats a huge concern in itself. What an odd thing to fight about.

We still get false negatives but its not just HIV, its Hep B and Hep C as well.

In the UK its a deferral for 1 year and that's for both homosexual or bisexual men and women.

[Withano]

We still get false negatives but its not just HIV, its Hep B and Hep C as well.

In the UK its a deferral for 1 year and that's for both homosexual or bisexual men and women.

The differentiation just seems backwards to me.. like heterosexuals are immune to blood diseases or something.

[Alf]

Jesus, Jaxie! It's 2017!
I should hope they test a herosexual mans blood before funneling it into someone(?), if so the same should be done for a gay man, if not then thats a huge concern in itself. What an odd thing to fight about.What?

Herosexual.


You did a Trump

[Withano]

What?

Herosexual.


You did a Trump

Hah. Good spot. Touch typing on my iPad without autocorrect rarely works well for me.

[Anaesthesia]

Just food for thought. As it stands, civil partnerships and marriage are now both options for the gay community. As a hetero in a long term partnership, who does not want to marry, I don't have any option for civil partnership. Is that fair?

[thesheriff443]

There was a great program on aids the other night, they reckon there are twenty five thousand people who have aids in this country and don't know it.

[Alf]

Hah. Good spot. Touch typing on my iPad without autocorrect rarely works well for me.I don't want your excuses, just an apology for picking on my typo.

[Withano]

I don't want your excuses, just an apology for picking on my typo.

I don't recall

[thesheriff443]

There are 7 million people with aids in Africa if those that have it took the two tablets to combat aids the disease would be wiped out in 15 years.

[thesheriff443]

I don't recall

I do!

[Withano]

There are 7 million people with aids in Africa if those that have it took the two tablets to combat aids the disease would be wiped out in 15 years.

Thats excellent to hear. I used to work in Africa, and there was so much support for 'knowing you status', it wasn't taboo at all, loads of negative people were in relationships with positive people.. but there will always be people that cant afford the medication, and theres no short term solution to that, so I dont think 15 years is realistic..

And your other post about the 25k brits not knowing about their hiv makes the blood giving rule even more ridic! You just cant presume that zero of that 25k are straight.

[smudgie]

Everyone should have all the same rights.

[thesheriff443]

Thats excellent to hear. I used to work in Africa, and there was so much support for 'knowing you status', it wasn't taboo at all, loads of negative people were in relationships with positive people.. but there will always be people that cant afford the medication, and theres no short term solution to that, so I dont think 15 years is realistic..

And your other post about the 25k brits not knowing about their hiv makes the blood giving rule even more ridic! You just cant presume that zero of that 25k are straight.

There is enough medication for every one, its the stigma that needs to change in African men,
Men are not willing to get tested so aids will continue to spread.
But if you take the two tablets daily for the rest of their lifes they will not develop hiv and live a full life as it makes aids dorment, it also stops an infected person giving aids to any one else.

[Withano]

There is enough medication for every one, its the stigma that needs to change in African men,
Men are not willing to get tested so aids will continue to spread.
But if you take the two tablets daily for the rest of their lifes they will not develop hiv and live a full life as it makes aids dorment, it also stops an infected person giving aids to any one else.

Thats not my experience at all! But it might be different from country to country and town to town.

[Anaesthesia]

Everyone should have all the same rights.

Yes we should. Any potential blood donors should have a blood screening.

Anyone should have the choice to opt for marriage or civil partnership. Yet the hetero community do not have this, and thus in the absence of a will, there is no protection for unmarried het partners.

[thesheriff443]

Thats not my experience at all! But it might be different from country to country and town to town.

This was all in the program the other night.

Its sad that all those that died could of lived full lives if the medication had been developed sooner.

[Smithy]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but can't give blood either

[thesheriff443]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but can't give blood either

Why not?

[Smithy]

Why not?

Cause you can catch the gay via blood obv

[Niamh.]

Cause you can catch the gay via blood obv
[emoji23]

[Denver]

I have given blood

[DemolitionRed]

The differentiation just seems backwards to me.. like heterosexuals are immune to blood diseases or something.

Well statistically, they are less likely to have hepatitis or HIV but that doesn't mean they can't have it. Blood banks do carefully screen donated blood so the risk of getting HIV from a transfusion is extremely low but its not impossible. Its the same with hepatitis, more so with B than C.

[DemolitionRed]

There are 7 million people with aids in Africa if those that have it took the two tablets to combat aids the disease would be wiped out in 15 years.

Are you talking about Truvada? According to scientists it has a 50% success rate but can't stop people contracting drug resistant HIV and its the drug resistant strains that are rife in Africa.

[thesheriff443]

Are you talking about Truvada? According to scientists it has a 50% success rate but can't stop people contracting drug resistant HIV and its the drug resistant strains that are rife in Africa.

Cant remember the drug names but, it was made clear if you take the two tablets it took peoples load count down to a level that was not readable and the virus would not be passed even with unprotected sex.

[thesheriff443]

They were out in Africa filming.

[thesheriff443]

Cause you can catch the gay via blood obv

I thought you could shag a man and you was only gay if you kiss them💋

[Tom4784]

I have given blood

It's a one year ban if you're actually having sex.

[Northern Monkey]

Me too or at least have to go through labour pains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdFdmE9A84

We'll be going through them if Corbyn gets in :joker:

[lostalex]

All of them.

[Marsh.]

I have given blood

It's a one year ban if you're actually having sex.

So yesterday when Adam said he's been shagging everything, he was lying? :hehe:

[Denver]

It's a one year ban if you're actually having sex.

Oh i lied on the forms but i knew i was clean

[Lostie!]

I have given blood

It's a one year ban if you're actually having sex.

Oh i lied on the forms

:laugh2:

[Denver]

:laugh2:

Let me be i was 18 and thought given blood was cool

[Marsh.]

Oh i lied on the forms but i knew i was clean

Can I ask what blood type are you so I know if to avoid a transfusion?

[Denver]

Can I ask what blood type are you so I know if to avoid a transfusion?

AB

[Loukas]

The legal rights are alright for the most part for majority of the LGBT community atm.

It would be nice to have a prime minister that fully respected the LGBT community. Don't mean to make it political, i'm just saying :idc:

[King Gizzard]

Yeah I was looking at the donating blood page after the Manchester attack happened and saw the thing about gay people not being allowed to donate blood. Was quite shocked really, ridiculous

[Jamie89]

Adoption - to the best of my knowledge - is now relatively equal although I can't help but suspect that same-sex couples would be placed under more scrutiny than opposite-sex ones.

There isn't really anything else that relationships come into regarding the law, is there?

I have a gay friend who adopted last year and from what he told me that wasn't the case for him. It was a difficult process in general but any meetings he had were always really formal and his sexuality never came into it (he was worried it might have and he'd be questioned/judged on his lifestyle etc... but he wasn't at all), and there were a few straight couples who got taken out of the process along the way (a lot of them got to know each other because there'd be group meetings and things), but the person doing my friends checks and meetings etc was really positive towards him and gave him high recommendations and priority and he was able to adopt much sooner than a lot of other people... so I find all that really reassuring as to the adoption process. Oh and it was just him (not a couple) and that wasn't an issue for them either.

[DemolitionRed]

We'll be going through them if Corbyn gets in :joker:

Good, I'd make it policy as well if I became PM :joker:

[DemolitionRed]

Yeah I was looking at the donating blood page after the Manchester attack happened and saw the thing about gay people not being allowed to donate blood. Was quite shocked really, ridiculous

My husband got a call in after the Manchester attack because he's O negative. He does give blood regularly anyway but he gave an extra pint last month.