Game playing..

[Rustic bauble]

Now I really like Raph. I have judged that on Raph the housemate and not the Forum member.
I just wish he would be more vocal in the house. In the diary room yesterday he just couldn't get his words and observations out quick enough..it was like someone had plugged him in.
It's obvious he doesn't like confrontation but he stepped up to Joe. He knows the game inside and out and I know he is probably thinking if he makes waves he will be an easy target...and we can all see how nervous he is when he is up.
But I love his observations but I feel he is so desperate to win this he is holding back...and I for one would love him even more.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Now I really like Raph. I have judged that on Raph the housemate and not the Forum member.
I just wish he would be more vocal in the house. In the diary room yesterday he just couldn't get his words and observations out quick enough..it was like someone had plugged him in.
It's obvious he doesn't like confrontation but he stepped up to Joe. He knows the game inside and out and I know he is probably thinking if he makes waves he will be an easy target...and we can all see how nervous he is when he is up.
But I love his observations but I feel he is so desperate to win this he is holding back...and I for one would love him even more.
Yes, he's trying not to get nominated. But it's nice to see how much the public like him. For once they're supporting a genuine nice guy and not one of the Towie lot.

[y.winter]

I do get the slight feeling that he's trying to do the "right" moves to stay in the game, and it's not always goes hand in hand with how he really wants to act.
Is it worth winning BB while being fully restrained?

[SoberLikeGizmo]

His game plan is simple, sit back, be nice and let all the others win it for him by being horrible human beings

[Rustic bauble]

He is a genuinely nice guy....and I really hope he wins. I just love his observations I just wish he would make it known if and when the time is right.
There will come a time (as we all know) when his comments may be played back into the house...and I don't want to see him called out as. 'Game player'...I want him to be true to himself.

[ethanjames]

in all honesty everyone has a game no matter what everyone has a plan of how they will act in the house. people who say they don't are lying because they all know what they are going. I do think raphs game plan is quite clever as he has formed enough alliances but not stirred drama. I wish they filmed him more though

[Rustic bauble]

His game plan is simple, sit back, be nice and let all the others win it for him by being horrible human beings


Isn't that being a 'fence sitter'....?....just be yourself..it's not like he is offensive. I just think he will be loved more and even be one of the best winners ever if he expressed himself in the house and not just the Diary room.

[Amy Jade]

I'm going off him a little, same as Charlotte...they are just there really and add 0 to my enjoyment of the show.

If I didn't like Raph from here I would be calling him dull by now tbh

[susie q]

Face to face nominations might just suit him, Ive a feeling that he maybe a slow burner, who will go for it if hes pushed hard enough.

[chuff me dizzy]

Now I really like Raph. I have judged that on Raph the housemate and not the Forum member.
I just wish he would be more vocal in the house. In the diary room yesterday he just couldn't get his words and observations out quick enough..it was like someone had plugged him in.
It's obvious he doesn't like confrontation but he stepped up to Joe. He knows the game inside and out and I know he is probably thinking if he makes waves he will be an easy target...and we can all see how nervous he is when he is up.
But I love his observations but I feel he is so desperate to win this he is holding back...and I for one would love him even more.

I said the same earlier, he's like a Disney character on speed in diary room and a rabbit in headlights in the house ,THIS is what I dont like as one of his personas is real and one is fake

[RhysJones]

If he does win then he will join a growing list of inoffensive dull winners such as Sam and Chloe

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He is a nice guy. Personally I find him very interested. There's definitely more to him than meets the eye. Housemates underestimate him.

[sampvt]

I said the same earlier, he's like a Disney character on speed in diary room and a rabbit in headlights in the house ,THIS is what I dont like as one of his personas is real and one is fake

Once again, let me tell you he is a bad un. Never mind all the support on here, the lad is a total fake. He is now showing his true colours. He is a tittle tattle merchant and a **** stirrer. He wont last another week before he gets into it with someone and Im guessing it will be tom or Joe.

He is trying to build alliances allover the house but he forgets these idiots are agented up and know the RTV make up way better than him. He just know BB and hes making a pigs ear of it now.

The Oracle speaks, HE IS A BAD UN, period. Ive called nearly every single thing and person for what they are to date and Im not wrong about this numpty.

[Lstan]

I think its clear why hes holding back, hes a smart game player and wants to stay on side with the public as well as the house. I would be very surprised if he didnt win.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He's in game playing mode now and I love it! Go Raph :cheer2:

[RhysJones]

He's starting to show his true colours tonight, going to Deborah **** stirring. He's two different people in the diary roon and outside

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He's starting to show his true colours tonight, going to Deborah **** stirring. He's two different people in the diary roon and outside

He's very smart. It is a game show, and the others also playing, I think. Some are more obvious than others. Lotan the biggest game player there.

[joeysteele]

I think he is doing really good.
Anyone planning a game going in,soon find it doesn't go to plan.

Raph is a great and decent guy, he is on here too, so he is being himself I'd say.
That's no bad thing.

This is rare too, I talk to a fair number of people about BB off here,a mix of family,friends and those I come across talking casually about BB.
I have honestly yet to find anyone off here,who doesn't like him.
If that's a game plan,then I'd add it's a pretty good one.
However again,I think Raph is just being in the main,his decent self.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think he is doing really good.
Anyone planning a game going in,soon find it doesn't go to plan.

Raph is a great and decent guy, he is on here too, so he is being himself I'd say.
That's no bad thing.

This is rare too, I talk to a fair number of people about BB off here,a mix of family,friends and those I come across talking casually about BB.
I have honestly yet to find anyone off here,who doesn't like him.
If that's a game plan,then I'd add it's a pretty good one.
However again,I think Raph is just being in the main,his decent self.

As a massive Big Brother fan he knows the game inside out. The others underestimate him. More fool them. But he's Also a nice guy. Playing the game doesn't mean the person is bad. Like Aaron, for example.

[Rustic bauble]

He's starting to show his true colours tonight, going to Deborah **** stirring. He's two different people in the diary roon and outside



I agree...disappointed. Why didn't he voice his opinions to their faces. That wasn't a good move IMO..

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I agree...disappointed. Why didn't he voice his opinions to their faces. That wasn't a good move IMO..

I'm sure he will.

[Rustic bauble]

I'm sure he will.


It's a bit late after the horse has bolted....he looked a bit of a weasel tonight.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It's a bit late after the horse has bolted....he looked a bit of a weasel tonight.

He just doesn't like confrontations. But he's being more vocal now and I think it's a good thing.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

He ws awful tonight. Such a woos

[fitz2k2]

Raph is a weasel.he plays both sides.Acts like hes crying ,but deep down he doesn't give a **** about the housemate. He is biggest arse licker in the show. I cant wait later on in the season they show what housemates been saying behind peoples back.

[Rustic bauble]

He just doesn't like confrontations. But he's being more vocal now and I think it's a good thing.



He was lighting Deborah's fire tonight...stirring it. That's not the vocal I was hoping for.

[RhysJones]

He was lighting Deborah's fire tonight...stirring it. That's not the vocal I was hoping for.

He was hoping for Deborah to go off on one like Hannah did on Lotan and for her to look the bad guy while he just sits there acting all innocent getting rid of his competition. Shame for him it isn't working

[BBDodge]

He's doing himself no favours hanging around with Chanelle and sniggering at her threats and abusive comments.

There are spare beds available - grab one before the newbies come in.

[azi]

He's a snake.

[vesavius]

Rahp is awful. People here are just making excuses for him because they know him... Or know someone that spoke to him on the forum, or whatever...

He is a fence sitting, tactical playing bore.

There is a real lack of honesty here regarding Raph in this forum.

[Merry Mockmas]

Tom outing his original gameplan on the first night, and BB's lack of footage have made it hard for Raph to try and do anything big for the public.

His the fan favourite basically because most of the others are awful, and that he's a nice, intelligent guy.

[Merry Mockmas]

He was hoping for Deborah to go off on one like Hannah did on Lotan and for her to look the bad guy while he just sits there acting all innocent getting rid of his competition. Shame for him it isn't working

Did you think the same of Ellie who carried on the discussion which led to the bust up between Chanelle and Kayleigh?

[JTM45]

Saying we're biased in Raph's favour on this forum is all well and good but i'm not quite sure how the Raph detractors will explain why he's almost as popular outside this Forum with people who have no bias towards him.:shrug:

If anything people who are seen as being American (which, due to his accent, people will consider Raph first and foremost) generally have a disadvantage in BB UK but despite this Raph is going back and forth with the bookies between 1st and 2nd place overall winner and he's been solidly at the top of most BB Forums' Polls for some time now.

Guess it's just a classic case of ''Haters gonna hate while Raph's gonna win!'' :dance:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Saying we're biased in Raph's favour on this forum is all well and good but i'm not quite sure how the Raph detractors will explain why he's almost as popular outside this Forum with people who have no bias towards him.:shrug:

If anything people who are seen as being American (which, due to his accent, people will consider Raph first and foremost) generally have a disadvantage in BB UK but despite this Raph is going back and forth with the bookies between 1st and 2nd place overall winner and he's been solidly at the top of most BB Forums' Polls for some time now.

Guess it's just a classic case of ''Haters gonna hate while Raph's gonna win!'' :dance:

Raph to win! :cheer2:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Did you think the same of Ellie who carried on the discussion which led to the bust up between Chanelle and Kayleigh?

Exactly, but apparently Ellie can do no wrong :rolleyes:

[Mick]

If he knows the show and is a great game player i wonder how receiving the killer nom has affected any plans.? He no longer has to fear HMs nominating him.

[joeysteele]

As a massive Big Brother fan he knows the game inside out. The others underestimate him. More fool them. But he's Also a nice guy. Playing the game doesn't mean the person is bad. Like Aaron, for example.

Exactly.
Anyway I am certainly enjoying seeing Raph on BB.
There is far more that's credible to moan at and criticise the others in there for, than there'll likely ever be concerning Raph.

[JTM45]

If he knows the show and is a great game player i wonder how receiving the killer nom has affected any plans.? He no longer has to fear HMs nominating him.

I need to get this **** clear in my mind.:shrug:

Is Raph up every week or was this 'Killer Nom' merely Joe getting to choose someone to go straight up from his single nom last week ?

Surely if he was automatically up for eviction every week then Nicola wouldn't have been allowed to give him immunity last week ?

I haven't actually heard BB once say that Raph will be up automatically every week.

[bots]

I need to get this **** clear in my mind.:shrug:

Is Raph up every week or was this 'Killer Nom' merely Joe getting to choose someone to go straight up from his single nom last week ?

Surely if he was automatically up for eviction every week then Nicola wouldn't have been allowed to give him immunity last week ?

I haven't actually heard BB once say that Raph will be up automatically every week.

he is not up every week, that was an automatic up for eviction last week, this coming week he is immune from eviction

[JTM45]

he is not up every week, that was an automatic up for eviction last week, this coming week he is immune from eviction

Thanks! :thumbs:

That's what i thought was happening but then i'd see people posting (as in 'Mick's' post above mine) that it was every week.

That would have been awful.............in a Jale kinda' way!:laugh:

[Mick]

Sorry guys my bad i thought it was a continuous thing.

[chuff me dizzy]

What a little sneak he is !! slithered into Deborah to grass on Rebecca :rant:

[chuff me dizzy]

Rahp is awful. People here are just making excuses for him because they know him... Or know someone that spoke to him on the forum, or whatever...

He is a fence sitting, tactical playing bore.

There is a real lack of honesty here regarding Raph in this forum.

:clap1: If he wasn't on here people would slate him for being boring,and a snake in the grass ,how fickle ?

[sampvt]

I am tickled pink that people aer now understanding who he is. His game plan was to get into the house and thats about where it ended. He is fooked now after being surrounded by z isters and better game players. If he wants to play a game, he needs to take pointers from Lotan and the angry trout lipped poundland surgical disaster who goes off when she feels like it.

Raph has no clue, he is gossiping and practicing being a friend to all in the house and an animated wanker in the DR. Under normal circumstances he would be slated to death, but his geeky popularity with forums and the gay votes as he is the only one in there, he will go far. He might even win but that does not detract from the fact that he is an annoying little 2 faced ****.

[chuff me dizzy]

I am tickled pink that people aer now understanding who he is. His game plan was to get into the house and thats about where it ended. He is fooked now after being surrounded by z isters and better game players. If he wants to play a game, he needs to take pointers from Lotan and the angry trout lipped poundland surgical disaster who goes off when she feels like it.

Raph has no clue, he is gossiping and practicing being a friend to all in the house and an animated wanker in the DR. Under normal circumstances he would be slated to death, but his geeky popularity with forums and the gay votes as he is the only one in there, he will go far. He might even win but that does not detract from the fact that he is an annoying little 2 faced ****.

:worship::worship::worship:

[bots]

I don't really care if he is playing a game or not, the other housemates are so completely over the top that its just not entertaining or even interesting to watch. So while Raph is playing it low key perhaps, it really only seems that way because the others are so OTT.

Labelling him as boring or whatever is just so inappropriate in the face of the others contrived, fake drama.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't really care if he is playing a game or not, the other housemates are so completely over the top that its just not entertaining or even interesting to watch. So while Raph is playing it low key perhaps, it really only seems that way because the others are so OTT.

Labelling him as boring or whatever is just so inappropriate in the face of the others contrived, fake drama.

No one in there is more contrived than Raph the backstabber

[bots]

No one in there is more contrived than Raph the backstabber

That's not how it seems to me. I think the whole lot of them are dire, but at least raph doesnt make me want to switch off my TV, whereas the others most certainly do

[chuff me dizzy]

That's not how it seems to me. I think the whole lot of them are dire, but at least raph doesnt make me want to switch off my TV, whereas the others most certainly do

I think people on here are looking at him through rose tinted glasses, if he wasn't a member of TIBB ,things would be a lot different

[Mick]

I don't really care if he is playing a game or not, the other housemates are so completely over the top that its just not entertaining or even interesting to watch. So while Raph is playing it low key perhaps, it really only seems that way because the others are so OTT.

Labelling him as boring or whatever is just so inappropriate in the face of the others contrived, fake drama.

Agree this.:blush:

[sampvt]

There is a subtle difference between Raphs game plan and the others. The others are flying by the seat of their pants and inventing issues as they go along. Raph is sitting back and analising the way the winds blowing and he dives in stirring up **** he knows the weak will carry onto bigger things and its very easy to see. His friendship with mary trout pout ind the other half of the anger sisters is so transparent its sick. He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league, so hes playing big fish in the paddling pool then runs to the DR and becomes hyper vocal.

If they decide to play back his DR rants, you will see how creepy the little **** is, he will stain his nappy and dislocate his Bruce forsyth jaw in a heartbeat.

[JTM45]

There is a subtle difference between Raphs game plan and the others. The others are flying by the seat of their pants and inventing issues as they go along. Raph is sitting back and analising the way the winds blowing and he dives in stirring up **** he knows the weak will carry onto bigger things and its very easy to see. His friendship with mary trout pout ind the other half of the anger sisters is so transparent its sick. He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league, so hes playing big fish in the paddling pool then runs to the DR and becomes hyper vocal.

If they decide to play back his DR rants, you will see how creepy the little **** is, he will stain his nappy and dislocate his Bruce forsyth jaw in a heartbeat.

Says the person who's never gotten anywhere near the BB House but is a self-declared 'Oracle' on TIBB. :laugh3:

''He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league''...........and who are these ''big boys'' you speak of exactly ?

You sound really bitter that Raph is a fraction of your age yet he could decimate you on an intelligence level, has four different passports, can speak four languages and, despite your personal attacks on his appearance still doesn't look like a shrivelled prune and has actually gotten out from behind his keyboard and made it onto Big Brother.

Your jealousy is palpable.:laugh:
Oh and people like him on here too. Kind of easy to understand why you're so jealous. :idc:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

has he actually spoken to any of the boys in the house, all I see of him is gossiping with girls?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Says the person who's never gotten anywhere near the BB House but is a self-declared 'Oracle' on TIBB. :laugh3:

''He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league''...........and who are these ''big boys'' you speak of exactly ?

You sound really bitter that Raph is a fraction of your age yet he could decimate you on an intelligence level, has four different passports, can speak four languages and, despite your personal attacks on his appearance still doesn't look like a shrivelled prune and has actually gotten out from behind his keyboard and made it onto Big Brother.

Your jealousy is palpable.:laugh:
Oh and people like him on here too. Kind of easy to understand why you're so jealous. :idc:

I'm enjoying watching him. I want to see what he does next. Nice to see him more vocal. He's coming out of his shell and I love it.

[sampvt]

Says the person who's never gotten anywhere near the BB House but is a self-declared 'Oracle' on TIBB. :laugh3:

''He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league''...........and who are these ''big boys'' you speak of exactly ?

You sound really bitter that Raph is a fraction of your age yet he could decimate you on an intelligence level, has four different passports, can speak four languages and, despite your personal attacks on his appearance still doesn't look like a shrivelled prune and has actually gotten out from behind his keyboard and made it onto Big Brother.

Your jealousy is palpable.:laugh:
Oh and people like him on here too. Kind of easy to understand why you're so jealous. :idc:

I wasnt going to answer this as its a bit pathetic, but just to address your points. Ive got a BA followed by a masters degree and Have taught in Per Brahe Gymnasium Sweden which is a university in Jonkoping. I got the position because I speak Swedish. I also lived in Germany, Spain, Norway and mexico so I speak one more language than raph. My IQ is currently 147 and Im nearly 65, something not many OAP;s will aspire to, yet alone people like you. As for going on BB, no thanks, my desperation to avail myself as an RTV numpty is not that strong and in regards to me being a cyber warrior, or reference to me being the Oracle, ive been right far more often than wrong and when it comes to rhetoric, consider yourself rinsed.

Now go away and play somewhere you wont get hurt.

Oh I forgot, if you dont believe me, just PM Chuff, she is honest and I am proud to admit that she is one of my dearest friends and knows my wife and I personally. Failing that send me your e mail and Ill drop you some evidence.

[JTM45]

:sleep:

[sampvt]

has he actually spoken to any of the boys in the house, all I see of him is gossiping with girls?

Spot on mate but dont shout too loud, the bubbles you will burst will blow your ear drums. We seem to base our opinions based on evidence and not cyber hero worship. Shame some people cant see past the obvious. If he was to try and break into the ring of the cool gang, he would be eaten up and spit out. All he can do is play pally pally with the girly wets in the house spreading gossip.

[Cherry Christmas]

He's doing himself no favours hanging around with Chanelle and sniggering at her threats and abusive comments.

There are spare beds available - grab one before the newbies come in.

I agree

[sampvt]

:sleep:

well done, you probably need a nap after being rinsed but you need to know that being rude by zzzzzz, is actually insulting and slightly pathetic, there again, you probably know that.Youre now on ignore so take my previous advice and stop insulting FM;s

[JTM45]

well done, you probably need a nap after being rinsed but you need to know that being rude by zzzzzz, is actually insulting and slightly pathetic, there again, you probably know that.Youre now on ignore so take my previous advice and stop insulting FM;s

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ? :laugh:

[sampvt]

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ? :laugh:

Sorry didnt get round to ignoring you quick enough but im glad you brought it up. I didnt start the personal stuff, you did. I voiced an opinion on a house mate, you attacked a forum mate. And yes i bet youre glad you have a bigger sector to play in, I think we all know what that sector does, but we wont mention it eh.

I am now politely asking you to please stop this spat as its going nowhere and your constant retorts are only serving to show your baiting skills. Now I have asked for you to stop replying to me, the comeback, if it comes will be reported. done deal, lets agree to disagree. By the way, Raph isnt that popular or friends with that many from what \i can see, but there again, I dont spend every waking moment on my keyboard. i just come on when the show airs, i dont do the off season.

[chuff me dizzy]

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ? :laugh:

Doesn't make him a good hm8,interesting or a nice person ,in fact it makes him the opposite,he's a fake and he's a wuss ..and please stop baiting Sam ,thank you

[chuff me dizzy]

Sorry didnt get round to ignoring you quick enough but im glad you brought it up. I didnt start the personal stuff, you did. I voiced an opinion on a house mate, you attacked a forum mate. And yes i bet youre glad you have a bigger sector to play in, I think we all know what that sector does, but we wont mention it eh.

I am now politely asking you to please stop this spat as its going nowhere and your constant retorts are only serving to show your baiting skills. Now I have asked for you to stop replying to me, the comeback, if it comes will be reported. done deal, lets agree to disagree. By the way, Raph isnt that popular or friends with that many from what \i can see, but there again, I dont spend every waking moment on my keyboard. i just come on when the show airs, i dont do the off season.

IGNORE !!!!!!!!!!!!

[sampvt]

IGNORE !!!!!!!!!!!!

I will now ive said my bit. Thanks

[bots]

just as a point of note, for however long Raph is a hm, he can be described and talked about in the same way as any other hm, so he cannot be protected by being a forum member. This was stated by the site admin on launch

[Rustic bauble]

Saying we're biased in Raph's favour on this forum is all well and good but i'm not quite sure how the Raph detractors will explain why he's almost as popular outside this Forum with people who have no bias towards him.:shrug:

If anything people who are seen as being American (which, due to his accent, people will consider Raph first and foremost) generally have a disadvantage in BB UK but despite this Raph is going back and forth with the bookies between 1st and 2nd place overall winner and he's been solidly at the top of most BB Forums' Polls for some time now.

Guess it's just a classic case of ''Haters gonna hate while Raph's gonna win!'' :dance:



People are not hating on him...just pointing out he isn't the Mr Wonderful many depict him to be. No one is perfect. I like him and I like his observations just wish he woul tell people to their faces his observations. You don't have to be confrontational to do that...he did it to Joe?
Last night he stirred the pot...and I didn't think he was like that...but we will see.
....and I don't really care if he is the favourite on FB Tellymix or BluePeter...I will still have my opinion negative or otherwise..

[chuff me dizzy]

just as a point of note, for however long Raph is a hm, he can be described and talked about in the same way as any other hm, so he cannot be protected by being a forum member. This was stated by the site admin on launch

:clap1: I think a lot are holding back and ass licking for when he comes back and he reads through the threads ,I dont play them games ,if he's a **** hm8 I will call him a **** hm8

[Rustic bauble]

If he knows the show and is a great game player i wonder how receiving the killer nom has affected any plans.? He no longer has to fear HMs nominating him.


...it was just for that week.

[JTM45]

People are not hating on him...just pointing out he isn't the Mr Wonderful many depict him to be. No one is perfect. I like him and I like his observations just wish he woul tell people to their faces his observations. You don't have to be confrontational to do that...he did it to Joe?
Last night he stirred the pot...and I didn't think he was like that...but we will see.
....and I don't really care if he is the favourite on FB Tellymix or BluePeter...I will still have my opinion negative or otherwise..

I never had a problem with people liking or disliking whoever they want but when people start commenting in a nasty way about his physical appearance i think that's going over the line.

[Rustic bauble]

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ? :laugh:



It's a forum.. We are free to comment about any housemate good or bad. It's irrelevant whether Raph is a forum member of 'long and good standing'. We are not judging him as 'the forum member' we are judging him as a housemate. Raph put himself into the house as a housemate...and that's how he will be judged. You can get an insight into people on here as to the way they express themselves and people they like or dislike...but it doesn't mean you 'know them'.
Raph we now see as a person behind the name....he is exposing himself for the person he is that's what BB does...warts and all.He is a nice guy but like most of us he has faults and I will express my opinions on them along with the good things.

[Rustic bauble]

I never had a problem with people liking or disliking whoever they want but when people start commenting in a nasty way about his physical appearance i think that's going over the line.

No I agree...personal attacks on appearance are wrong. However you have crossed the line by doing just that to a forum member..so that doesn't really make you any better.

[Cherry Christmas]

It's a forum.. We are free to comment about any housemate good or bad. It's irrelevant whether Raph is a forum member of 'long and good standing'. We are not judging him as 'the forum member' we are judging him as a housemate. Raph put himself into the house as a housemate...and that's how he will be judged. You can get an insight into people on here as to the way they express themselves and people they like or dislike...but it doesn't mean you 'know them'.
Raph we now see as a person behind the name....he is exposing himself for the person he is that's what BB does...warts and all.He is a nice guy but like most of us he has faults and I will express my opinions on them along with the good things.

Rusti :clap2:

[chuff me dizzy]

No I agree...personal attacks on appearance are wrong. However you have crossed the line by doing just that to a forum member..so that doesn't really make you any better.

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[sampvt]

No I agree...personal attacks on appearance are wrong. However you have crossed the line by doing just that to a forum member..so that doesn't really make you any better.

Thanks for pointing that out. On that note, people seem to be actively discussing Chanelles lips and arse, lotans muscles, Rebeccas hair and Joes eyeliner and leather looks. As soon as anyone brings up golden boys chin, the dummies get thrown out of all the prams and its disgusting. Someone even fat shamed GC and mentioned Blondies wonkie eye.

Is it one rule for one and one for others.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

has he actually spoken to any of the boys in the house, all I see of him is gossiping with girls?

He was close to Arthur.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think he's cute and interesting. No one is perfect of course and he still has flaws like everyone.

[Fosse]

He is playing a game; that, however, doesn't stop my liking him and hoping he goes on to win.

[Locke.]

He was hoping for Deborah to go off on one like Hannah did on Lotan and for her to look the bad guy while he just sits there acting all innocent getting rid of his competition. Shame for him it isn't working

Not really. He has considered Hannah and Deborah as part of his "outsider" group for as long as its existed and had literally just been saying in the conversation with her that the clique are stronger now Sukh and Imran left. He was simply warning a friend that the people they don't associate with as often were pinning blame on her.

People are still reading way too deeply into his actions because of his VT.

[fitz2k2]

Never like that kid. He will get exposed soon. I can't wait till it happens. This boy tried crying at least 3-4x last week and I haven't even see any tears haha.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Not really. He has considered Hannah and Deborah as part of his "outsider" group for as long as its existed and had literally just been saying in the conversation with her that the clique are stronger now Sukh and Imran left. He was simply warning a friend that the people they don't associate with as often were pinning blame on her.

People are still reading way too deeply into his actions because of his VT.

This! I'm glad he's making friends in there. Also glad he doesn't hang out with Lotan and Co. I'm not too fond that group.

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.facebook.com/BigBrotherUK/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf

Sneaky **** has once again run to the bedroom backstabbing ... Say it to their face Berty Big Balls !!

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think he knows that telling them would cause an argument. And there's enough tension in that House already.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think he knows that telling them would cause an argument. And there's enough tension in that House already.

I think his balls haven't dropped yet

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think his balls haven't dropped yet

He doesn't like confrontations.

[chuff me dizzy]

He doesn't like confrontations.

Did he ring and tell you this Vanessa ?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Did he ring and tell you this Vanessa ?

I think it's obvious.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think it's obvious.

I think its obvious he's a coward, who is right and wrong ,me or you ?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think its obvious he's a coward, who is right and wrong ,me or you ?

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I disagree.

[chuff me dizzy]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I disagree.

Dead right it is,but I dont pretend to have him on speed-dial ,I see his flaws ,i see how sneaky he is

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Dead right it is,but I dont pretend to have him on speed-dial ,I see his flaws ,i see how sneaky he is

I never said he was perfect. We all have flaws. But I like him.

[waterhog]

as a BB fan he nos that being sneaky will be seen - he is not that silly. he is holding back.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

as a BB fan he nos that being sneaky will be seen - he is not that silly. he is holding back.

He's just talking to his mates. We all do it. I do it all the time at work. Have a good old gossip :D