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starry
18-06-2017, 07:14 PM
It feels like he just bounces off others rather than really projecting much from himself.

Vanessa
18-06-2017, 07:16 PM
I think he's great. Lovely lad.

south12345
18-06-2017, 07:42 PM
Raphs personality is that of a wet weekend in Grimsby......He will no doubt win..

Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 07:44 PM
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Jodie.
18-06-2017, 07:44 PM
Raph: Personality?

BB17: Jason

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Jodie.
18-06-2017, 07:44 PM
He is a star alongside Chanelle x

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 07:47 PM
Every Housemate has to bounce off another Housemate to have any chance at being any good.

The biggest thing that Raph is popular for across all different spectrums of the BB fandom is that he is one of the only few in there worth rooting for.

Shaun
18-06-2017, 07:53 PM
I suppose it was a matter of time before the threads about the housemates that aren't being shown, calling them boring, surfaced

azi
18-06-2017, 07:55 PM
Everything he says sound scripted.

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 07:57 PM
I suppose it was a matter of time before the threads about the housemates that aren't being shown, calling them boring, surfaced

The thing is when Raph is shown his had conflict with Joe, has interesting insight on the Housemates in the Diary Room, has a good friendship with Chanelle, how can anyone see him as dull in comparison to others in there?

I agree with you though Shaun that the Housemates with no footage are gonna get called dull.

Imo there's only a few that I feel comfortable calling dull because I've seen enough of them to make a basic impression that they're not interesting me and that's Lotan, Kieran, Rebecca, Ellie, and Tom.

Joe, Charlotte, and Deborah don't really get too much footage so I'm leaving them on undecided.

Vanessa
18-06-2017, 08:04 PM
The thing is when Raph is shown his had conflict with Joe, has interesting insight on the Housemates in the Diary Room, has a good friendship with Chanelle, how can anyone see him as dull in comparison to others in there?

I agree with you though Shaun that the Housemates with no footage are gonna get called dull.

Imo there's only a few that I feel comfortable calling dull because I've seen enough of them to make a basic impression that they're not interesting me and that's Lotan, Kieran, Rebecca, Ellie, and Tom.

Joe, Charlotte, and Deborah don't really get too much footage so I'm leaving them on undecided.

He's a good Housemate, but they choose to only show Lotan and Ellie.

joeysteele
18-06-2017, 08:30 PM
I think he has an infectious personality.
He'd make you feel good just being around him, was really impressive in the diary room with his languages.

Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 08:46 PM
He just speaks to girls

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 08:50 PM
He just speaks to girls

Tbf he was friends with Arthur a little bit.

If you want Raph to be friends with one of the guys then Ch5 will need to put in a guy like Sam Evans, Glyn, or Cowboy Callum, or a Dan Gheesling (excuse my abysmal spelling of Dan's surname) as Raph likes those types of guys, but instead they've just plonked in himbo 1 and himbo 2 who can only talk about sex.

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 08:51 PM
He's a good Housemate, but they choose to only show Lotan and Ellie.

I agree, and all they do is showmance, Lotan stripping off, and Ellie pretending to be thick, and cry.

joeysteele
18-06-2017, 08:55 PM
Tbf he was friends with Arthur a little bit.

If you want Raph to be friends with one of the guys then Ch5 will need to put in a guy like Sam Evans, Glyn, or Cowboy Callum, or a Dan Gheesling (excuse my abysmal spelling of Dan's surname) as Raph likes those types of guys, but instead they've just plonked in himbo 1 and himbo 2 who can only talk about sex.


On live from the house the other night,he was sitting talking at length with only Joe too.
He probably talks to most of them it just doesn't get shown.

Jake.
18-06-2017, 09:52 PM
He just speaks to girls

Because speaking to Lotan/Tom/Kieran would really provide you with insightful conversations

Glenn-C
18-06-2017, 09:58 PM
He just speaks to girls
And? Tom, Lotan and Kieran aren't the type he'd get on with and Joe doesn't like him

JTM45
18-06-2017, 10:04 PM
He just speaks to girls

Apart from that being untrue, what would it even matter if he did ?

Can't be a good housemate if he's not a 'lads lad' ? Stereotypical nonsense!!! :sleep:

bots
18-06-2017, 10:05 PM
he interacts with people like a normal human being, not some vile caricature. Don't see the problem

sampvt
18-06-2017, 10:38 PM
Apart from that being untrue, what would it even matter if he did ?

Can't be a good housemate if he's not a 'lads lad' ? Stereotypical nonsense!!! :sleep:

pray tell me, why does everything have to be about gender, stereotypical crap, racist this and that, lads lad, etc. why cant we all be allowed to have opinions and if you dont like them, just swerve them. having tunnel vision cant be good for you.

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 10:42 PM
Because speaking to Lotan/Tom/Kieran would really provide you with insightful conversations

Well Tom might have some interesting information on Sheep tbf.:hehe:

fitz2k2
18-06-2017, 10:43 PM
Hes a coward.If raph felt like the word "bitch" shouldn't been used why didn't he say that to Lothian?He's pathetic.

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 10:44 PM
pray tell me, why does everything have to be about gender, stereotypical crap, racist this and that, lads lad, etc. why cant we all be allowed to have opinions and if you dont like them, just swerve them. having tunnel vision cant be good for you.

You might want to apply the BIB logic to LT whom JTM45 was quoting originally.

RhysJones
18-06-2017, 11:38 PM
I have noticed in a few convos with different people now that they'll talk and he'll just sit there and nod or snigger. He does it quite a lot to Chanelle and the sisters. It would really annoy me

sampvt
18-06-2017, 11:42 PM
You might want to apply the BIB logic to LT whom JTM45 was quoting originally.

i havent a clue wtf you are on about.

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 11:47 PM
i havent a clue wtf you are on about.

"He only talks to girls" and you didn't say anything to LT about that, is it because he agrees with you on not liking Raph as a Housemate?

AarynGriesfan
18-06-2017, 11:51 PM
Hes a coward.If raph felt like the word "bitch" shouldn't been used why didn't he say that to Lothian?He's pathetic.

And also why does he use it in his own vocabulary. Kinda hypocritical if you ask me.

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 11:53 PM
And also why does he use it in his own vocabulary. Kinda hypocritical if you ask me.

What do you mean by using it in his own vocabulary? Do you mean like repeating what other have said?

LukeB
18-06-2017, 11:53 PM
What do you mean by using it in his own vocabulary? Do you mean like repeating what other have said?

he isn't even watching

Mystic Mock
18-06-2017, 11:57 PM
he isn't even watching

So his winding us up?:joker:

LukeB
18-06-2017, 11:59 PM
So his winding us up?:joker:

just one of those who has issues with Raph as a member kind of things probably because Raph drags Aaryn KKK etc so he just say anything to slate.

Mystic Mock
19-06-2017, 12:02 AM
just one of those who has issues with Raph as a member kind of things probably because Raph drags Aaryn KKK etc so he just say anything to slate.

Tbf whilst I felt that Aaryn was entertaining, there is a perfectly understandable reason to dislike Aaryn.

JTM45
19-06-2017, 01:17 AM
"He only talks to girls" and you didn't say anything to LT about that, is it because he agrees with you on not liking Raph as a Housemate?

Spot-on Mock!
He's not gonna' call LT out because he regularly needs the back-up from another like 'minded' forum member and there's not enough that he can risk that he might offend him..........and it doesn't suit his personal agenda of course.

AarynGriesfan
19-06-2017, 01:57 AM
What do you mean by using it in his own vocabulary? Do you mean like repeating what other have said?

Originally Posted by Raph View Post
"And now the dumb bitch sent some lawyer forms to James too for 'slandering her name' hahaha.

Natalie Negrotti is up there alongside Aryan, Ginamarie and Kaitlyn as a bottom tier of all time female housemate. Paulie was right she's as fake as the things on her chest!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Ashley. View Post
Nobody's going to take you seriously if you're just going to make derogatory remarks like this.
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Originally Posted by Raph View Post
I hear ya... but I call both boys and girls bitches. In this case what she did was really cruel and horrible so I felt like 'bitch' was appropriate.. but it's true it is a derogatory term used predominantly for woman, so the concern is totally ok on your part. That said, this girl really is a piece of work. One of BBUSA's very very worst. "

How can he be offended by someone using the bitch word when he calls women bitches himself. That's what I am trying to figure out.

JayBlaze
19-06-2017, 02:16 AM
He's a bore, that's his personality

Gusto Brunt
19-06-2017, 05:49 AM
It feels like he just bounces off others rather than really projecting much from himself.

He's one of the worst housemates ever. I totally agree with you.

He is just a mirror expressing other people's emotions. Well said.

It's staggering the support he has on here. Just because he is a regular member, although I hadn't heard of him until this new BB series.

It's doesn't mean he cannot be criticised for being a boring housemate.

And that incessant grin and nodding of the head. So annoying.

When you think so many interesting housemates have left and he is still there, he doesn't make for good viewing.

bots
19-06-2017, 05:57 AM
You might want to apply the BIB logic to LT whom JTM45 was quoting originally.

Perhaps because what LT said was true, that Raph does spend all his time with the girls? Are you seriously saying that LT shouldn't have brought that up because it was gender focussed ... i mean really, you have to be kidding, right?

JTM45
19-06-2017, 06:09 AM
Perhaps because what LT said was true, that Raph does spend all his time with the girls? Are you seriously saying that LT shouldn't have brought that up because it was gender focussed ... i mean really, you have to be kidding, right?

Yet again............you miss the point completely!:clap1:

bots
19-06-2017, 06:16 AM
Yet again............you miss the point completely!:clap1:

nope i didn't, because why would anyone need to disagree with a statement that was factually accurate

but thanks for the derogatory :clap1: anyway

JTM45
19-06-2017, 06:25 AM
nope i didn't, because why would anyone need to disagree with a statement that was factually accurate

but thanks for the derogatory :clap1: anyway

Nothing derogatory at all in what i said. I was just stating that, going by what you said, you had clearly missed the point or you wouldn't have said it. This is something that you do very often.

jyunga
19-06-2017, 06:52 AM
Raph feels like a put on to me. It's like if one of my hyper friends pretends to act gay. The way he moves his hands and reactions to things other people say with polite replies. It all seems really fake. If that's truly how he is in person it's just weird. I would not be surprised if he wins and then we find out it was all an act to win the show tbh.

bots
19-06-2017, 06:56 AM
Nothing derogatory at all in what i said. I was just stating that, going by what you said, you had clearly missed the point or you wouldn't have said it. This is something that you do very often.

Thanks for your attack on me personally as a member, i've noticed I'm not the only one. I shan't reciprocate

sampvt
19-06-2017, 07:50 AM
Nothing derogatory at all in what i said. I was just stating that, going by what you said, you had clearly missed the point or you wouldn't have said it. This is something that you do very often.

I have to say this...Everyone on here seems to post their feelings about a HM or a situation. You then jump on that post and drag it. I have looked back quite a way into your posting history and you very rarely, IF EVER, initiate a post from your own opinion. You are acting like the cyber police and pissing people off. Im guessing this is why you are getting a hard ride.

Chill out and understand that the forum is a melting pot for opinions. Just because you dont agree with them is academic. Its not your job to police these posts, thats down to others.

Raph is Gay, we get it. He is a member of the forum as i am, but if i was in the house would i get support from on here, hell no. he has your support because he represents something or someone you agree with. I find him extremely pathetic and boring and his game plan seems to falter every day unless its to gossip and try to create his own little club called the outsiders. He needs evicting as he brings nothing but fakeness to the show.

Crimson Dynamo
19-06-2017, 07:58 AM
Just to reiterate I have not seen him speak to anyone but girls, it may be the edit and I am not saying its a negative, but it is a fact

and he is dull, again may be the edit but this is a "Show" not an interview for a call centre

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 08:12 AM
Raphie isn't dull, and if he's dull so what, i think you can rather be boring and dull, than a drama seeking idiot


cause i can really see the likes of Raph, Charlotte and Ellie make the final, just because they are smarter than just moan and create lots of drama :laugh:


Producers want Heroes and Villains in every series, and Raphie is definitely a hero in their eyes, Charlotte also i think, she's doing well among other hm's, also making her a hero in my opinion for now, Ellie same she's a hero as well


villains in my opinion are Hannah, Chanelle, Tom, and i still don't trust Deborah

Niamh.
19-06-2017, 09:17 AM
He just speaks to girls

Arthur was his friend in there, the other guys in there are awful

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 09:19 AM
He's far from dull, when we do see him he has plenty to say and he as fun. But everyone is entitled to their opinions.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 09:22 AM
Im still waiting for a personality to show itself ....bland ,boring and fake up to now

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 09:23 AM
He's far from dull, when we do see him he has plenty to say and he as fun. But everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Behind peoples backs :idc:

Amy Jade
19-06-2017, 09:28 AM
Raph does have personality. The edit just isn't really showing it up to now sadly.

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 09:30 AM
Raph does have personality. The edit just isn't really showing it up to now sadly.

They prefer to shove Lotan and Ellie down our throats :bored:

bots
19-06-2017, 09:35 AM
Behind peoples backs :idc:

i don't get the necessity to say things to people faces inviting confrontation. Its part and parcel of life that people gossip. In terms of personality, its not dissimilar to how many would behave on the outside, the other lot would be locked up if they behaved like they are.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 09:40 AM
i don't get the necessity to say things to people faces inviting confrontation. Its part and parcel of life that people gossip. In terms of personality, its not dissimilar to how many would behave on the outside, the other lot would be locked up if they behaved like they are.

Its always been scorned upon in BB on this site, but this year its different ? allowances made for a member :pat:

rusticgal
19-06-2017, 09:47 AM
Im still waiting for a personality to show itself ....bland ,boring and fake up to now

He is a nice guy but he is bland...He is predictable and he is blatantly playing the game. I don't know how old he is but I found his excitement in the diary room over his party and party games really hard to watch...it was all very OTT and a reaction I would expect from an 8 year old.
He isn't stupid...he knows exactly what he is doing and he is so transparent. I know it's a game but I don't like fakeness.
When he called Lotan out for using the term bitch...why didn't he say something to Lotan at the time...why didn't he tell Lotan he finds it disrespectful to refer to women like that?....let's face it he said it to Joe.
He is terrified of being nominated...better to be honest than become a little snitch because it doesn't make him look good and it will only come back to bite him in the bum.

RhysJones
19-06-2017, 09:49 AM
He's far from dull, when we do see him he has plenty to say and he as fun. But everyone is entitled to their opinions.

He only does so behind people's back, he's a coward. When Chanelle was being verbally threatening to Kayleigh after their argument, he just laughed at it. It's obvious that he's just a bottom feeder, he's standing on his high ground like with the situation with Lotan and him calling girls bitches. If he had a problem he should've told him. Some people call the sisters sneaky yet they wouldn't bitch behind people's back like Raph does

rusticgal
19-06-2017, 09:50 AM
I have to say this...Everyone on here seems to post their feelings about a HM or a situation. You then jump on that post and drag it. I have looked back quite a way into your posting history and you very rarely, IF EVER, initiate a post from your own opinion. You are acting like the cyber police and pissing people off. Im guessing this is why you are getting a hard ride.

Chill out and understand that the forum is a melting pot for opinions. Just because you dont agree with them is academic. Its not your job to police these posts, thats down to others.

Raph is Gay, we get it. He is a member of the forum as i am, but if i was in the house would i get support from on here, hell no. he has your support because he represents something or someone you agree with. I find him extremely pathetic and boring and his game plan seems to falter every day unless its to gossip and try to create his own little club called the outsiders. He needs evicting as he brings nothing but fakeness to the show.


:clap1:...well said Sam.

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 09:50 AM
He only does so behind people's back, he's a coward. When Chanelle was being verbally threatening to Kayleigh after their argument, he just laughed at it. It's obvious that he's just a bottom feeder, he's standing on his high ground like with the situation with Lotan and him calling girls bitches. If he had a problem he should've told him. Some people call the sisters sneaky yet they wouldn't bitch behind people's back like Raph does

don't talk about our King Raphie like that :fist:

bots
19-06-2017, 09:53 AM
Its always been scorned upon in BB on this site, but this year its different ? allowances made for a member :pat:

Ahh Chuff, I've been consistent, i've always said that i would prefer what i consider "normal" behaviour. But, i appreciate the care :pat: anyway :laugh:

RhysJones
19-06-2017, 09:53 AM
don't talk about our King Raphie like that :fist:

Can't handle the truth, okay go back to calling Charlotte the worst housemate ever. I can't wait for you to turn on Raph like you did everyone else you've supported

Jack_
19-06-2017, 09:53 AM
I always have to laugh when 'he's playing a game' is levelled as a criticism. Do people realise what this show is?

I hope he hams it up and plays the public like a ****ing fiddle, I really couldn't care less

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 09:56 AM
Can't handle the truth, okay go back to calling Charlotte the worst housemate ever. I can't wait for you to turn on Raph like you did everyone else you've supported

nope, i won't betray Raph, and i wasn't myself when i said that idiotic comment what i didn't mean about Charlotte, i still feel guilty over saying that :(

rusticgal
19-06-2017, 09:59 AM
I always have to laugh when 'he's playing a game' is levelled as a criticism. Do people realise what this show is?

I hope he hams it up and plays the public like a ****ing fiddle, I really couldn't care less


Well he is playing a game...he is playing THE game....doesn't mean we have to like the way he is playing it.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 10:08 AM
He only does so behind people's back, he's a coward. When Chanelle was being verbally threatening to Kayleigh after their argument, he just laughed at it. It's obvious that he's just a bottom feeder, he's standing on his high ground like with the situation with Lotan and him calling girls bitches. If he had a problem he should've told him. Some people call the sisters sneaky yet they wouldn't bitch behind people's back like Raph does

After the womens votes ,fake sneaky and underlying nasty little creep

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 10:10 AM
Ahh Chuff, I've been consistent, i've always said that i would prefer what i consider "normal" behaviour. But, i appreciate the care :pat: anyway :laugh:

The :pat: was for Snake Boy, not you flowerpot xx

Slevin
19-06-2017, 10:31 AM
I always have to laugh when 'he's playing a game' is levelled as a criticism. Do people realise what this show is?

I hope he hams it up and plays the public like a ****ing fiddle, I really couldn't care less
i was thinking the other day it would be funny if he won & in his interview with Emma laughed his ass off & said he played the publice for fools. i would just find it hilarious if that happened one time.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 10:32 AM
i was thinking the other day it would be funny if he won & in his interview with Emma laughed his ass off & said he played the publice for fools. i would just find it hilarious if that happened one time.

And thats what he's doing, no doubt will come on here and say so after the shows finished

bots
19-06-2017, 10:33 AM
The :pat: was for Snake Boy, not you flowerpot xx

oh crap, and i thought you loved me :bawling: i'm shook to my very core now

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 10:36 AM
oh crap, and i thought you loved me :bawling: i'm shook to my very core now

:flowers:

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 10:38 AM
so much hate on a sweetie, it makes me sad :(

sampvt
19-06-2017, 10:41 AM
i was thinking the other day it would be funny if he won & in his interview with Emma laughed his ass off & said he played the publice for fools. i would just find it hilarious if that happened one time.

WTF...the mere fact that everyone knows he is a gamer makes a mockery of the way he is supposed to be fooling the public. He isnt fooling anyone but himself. He is the sole gay in there this year and his popularity with forums has gathered him enough early gay and forum votes to race ahead. Trouble is a couple of thousand votes these days guarantees a win, so hardly ground breaking stuff and an even more obvious following, BUT TRUST ME, HE WONT WIN, NOT A CAT IN HELLS CHANCE. He has yet to blow a gasket and get into a real argument. Then we will see the slimy little shirts true colours.

sampvt
19-06-2017, 10:43 AM
so much hate on a sweetie, it makes me sad :(

Nicky darling, your sweet nature cant see bad in anyone especially a professional con man. Trust me he will be outed soon then you can lament at leisure. Back a real one instead. I like Kieran and Ellie.

bots
19-06-2017, 10:43 AM
i don't like or hate Raph, seems a decent enough chap to me in a house full of idiots. That's about the extent of my feelings on him.

vesavius
19-06-2017, 10:44 AM
It feels like he just bounces off others rather than really projecting much from himself.

Truth.

Raph has honestly done nothing interesting. He isn't funny, or deep, or notable in any way at all. The only notable screen time he is in is when he is acting as a sounding board for someone else.

Dead wood fence sitter HM in every sense so far.

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 10:46 AM
Nicky darling, your sweet nature cant see bad in anyone especially a professional con man. Trust me he will be outed soon then you can lament at leisure. Back a real one instead. I like Kieran and Ellie.

a real one isn't Kieran or Ellie :nono:


and i will stay loyal to my sweeties King Raphie and his Queen Charlotte :love:

vesavius
19-06-2017, 10:52 AM
I always have to laugh when 'he's playing a game' is levelled as a criticism. Do people realise what this show is?


You see... Yes it's a game, but there are different ways to play a game.

In BB, if you are actively playing it, two of the ways are that you can play the public, or include the public in your game.

The first involves making idiots of the viewing public. Aaron is a great example of this style. It can easily win, because most of the public don't even realise that they are being taken for a ride. It's sneaky and Machiavellian. I dislike snide HMs that take this route. I find it dishonest and cynical.

Including the public, the more honest way of playing the game, I am well behind. I find it hugely entertaining. Victor is a great example of this style. This style doesn't tend to win though, because if you are honest about playing the game the public tend to dislike you (they prefer to be played).

Sadly, Raph is falling more into the former right now. I hope he changes his approach soon, invests, and takes some risks. You can tell a LOT about a person in how they choose to play their games.

Slevin
19-06-2017, 10:57 AM
WTF...the mere fact that everyone knows he is a gamer makes a mockery of the way he is supposed to be fooling the public. He isnt fooling anyone but himself. He is the sole gay in there this year and his popularity with forums has gathered him enough early gay and forum votes to race ahead. Trouble is a couple of thousand votes these days guarantees a win, so hardly ground breaking stuff and an even more obvious following, BUT TRUST ME, HE WONT WIN, NOT A CAT IN HELLS CHANCE. He has yet to blow a gasket and get into a real argument. Then we will see the slimy little shirts true colours.
some people will be fooled no doubt. i wouldnt say i would be impressed or thinking anything is groundbreaking. i just think it would be funny see all the pissed off people coming out the woodwork since some are going to think hes full on genuine as for a reason for voting for him to win since so many got a problem with HM playing a game on a game show.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 10:58 AM
You see... Yes it's a game, but there are different ways to play a game.

In BB, if you are actively playing it, two of the ways are that you can play the public, or include the public in your game.

The first involves making idiots of the viewing public. Aaron is a great example of this style. It can easily win, because most of the public don't even realise that they are being taken for a ride. It's sneaky and Machiavellian. I dislike snide HMs that take this route. I find it dishonest and cynical.

Including the public, the more honest way of playing the game, I am well behind. I find it hugely entertaining. Victor is a great example of this style. This style doesn't tend to win though, because if you are honest about playing the game the public tend to dislike you (they prefer to be played).

Sadly, Raph is falling more into the former right now. I hope he changes his approach soon, invests, and takes some risks. You can tell a LOT about a person in how they choose to play their games.

Wow what a great post :clap1: To openly play a game is ok ,but to sneakily play a game isn't ,and Raphs doing the latter, he thinks he's fooling us all,but clearly he's not, he's only fooling people who liked to be fooled,and himself

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 11:16 AM
of course it's a game, and to me personally Raphie and Charlotte are playing it the right proper way


i think Chanelle for example, has her good moments, but pissing in the pool is so immature and it does put me off her a bit, sometimes i think Chanelle is mentally 14 or 15 years old


i really don't get the hate for Raph either, he isn't boring at all, and he deserves to win so badly :D


Charlotte doesn't need to win for me, she just needs to enjoy the whole BB experience, and trying to get along with other hm's is a good idea, cause they are the ones who can put you up for eviction, and i don't want her to make a fool of herself, cause she also has a job outside BB, and if she goes all wild her bosses may think we don't want a immature brat working for us, so yeah i love to see her keep her classy standard and not go cheap


i'm sorry if that disappoints certain people, but i don't want to see someone uncomfortable, and Charlotte oozing calmth in the house is also very nice between the immature and unclassy hm's

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 11:24 AM
of course it's a game, and to me personally Raphie and Charlotte are playing it the right proper way


i think Chanelle for example, has her good moments, but pissing in the pool is so immature and it does put me off her a bit, sometimes i think Chanelle is mentally 14 or 15 years old


i really don't get the hate for Raph either, he isn't boring at all, and he deserves to win so badly :D


Charlotte doesn't need to win for me, she just needs to enjoy the whole BB experience, and trying to get along with other hm's is a good idea, cause they are the ones who can put you up for eviction, and i don't want her to make a fool of herself, cause she also has a job outside BB, and if she goes all wild her bosses may think we don't want a immature brat working for us, so yeah i love to see her keep her classy standard and not go cheap


i'm sorry if that disappoints certain people, but i don't want to see someone uncomfortable, and Charlotte oozing calmth in the house is also very nice between the immature and unclassy hm's

Why does he, above everyone else deserve to win ? what has he done to deserve to win ?

vesavius
19-06-2017, 12:12 PM
Why does he, above everyone else deserve to win ? what has he done to deserve to win ?

He has done nothing. It's just blind support.

The more people try and push Raph on me in this uncritical and overly enthusiastic way, the more I go off him.

It also tells me that the posters are not displaying honest objectivity.

rusticgal
19-06-2017, 01:07 PM
a real one isn't Kieran or Ellie :nono:


and i will stay loyal to my sweeties King Raphie and his Queen Charlotte :love:


Ellie and Charlotte ARE REAL....Ellie wears her heart on her sleeve. There isn't a bad or game playing bone in her body..

rusticgal
19-06-2017, 01:15 PM
of course it's a game, and to me personally Raphie and Charlotte are playing it the right proper way


i think Chanelle for example, has her good moments, but pissing in the pool is so immature and it does put me off her a bit, sometimes i think Chanelle is mentally 14 or 15 years old


i really don't get the hate for Raph either, he isn't boring at all, and he deserves to win so badly :D


Charlotte doesn't need to win for me, she just needs to enjoy the whole BB experience, and trying to get along with other hm's is a good idea, cause they are the ones who can put you up for eviction, and i don't want her to make a fool of herself, cause she also has a job outside BB, and if she goes all wild her bosses may think we don't want a immature brat working for us, so yeah i love to see her keep her classy standard and not go cheap


i'm sorry if that disappoints certain people, but i don't want to see someone uncomfortable, and Charlotte oozing calmth in the house is also very nice between the immature and unclassy hm's


None of them deserve to win atm..

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 02:14 PM
He has done nothing. It's just blind support.

The more people try and push Raph on me in this uncritical and overly enthusiastic way, the more I go off him.

It also tells me that the posters are not displaying honest objectivity.

I find its very sheep like and fear of him reading posts when he gets back ,I personal do not give a flying one, Im honest

Ashley.
19-06-2017, 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Raph View Post
"And now the dumb bitch sent some lawyer forms to James too for 'slandering her name' hahaha.

Natalie Negrotti is up there alongside Aryan, Ginamarie and Kaitlyn as a bottom tier of all time female housemate. Paulie was right she's as fake as the things on her chest!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Ashley. View Post
Nobody's going to take you seriously if you're just going to make derogatory remarks like this.
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Originally Posted by Raph View Post
I hear ya... but I call both boys and girls bitches. In this case what she did was really cruel and horrible so I felt like 'bitch' was appropriate.. but it's true it is a derogatory term used predominantly for woman, so the concern is totally ok on your part. That said, this girl really is a piece of work. One of BBUSA's very very worst. "

How can he be offended by someone using the bitch word when he calls women bitches himself. That's what I am trying to figure out.

And here's why I dislike him.

jyunga
19-06-2017, 02:53 PM
oh ****, old forum posts come back to haunt!

ethanjames
19-06-2017, 03:15 PM
I think raph actually has a lot of personality though quieter than everyone else he shines when he is being filmed and brings a good energy to the house in all honesty. just because he isn't screaming 24/7 it doesn't mean he doesn't have a personality.

Amy Jade
19-06-2017, 03:51 PM
While I do agree he was a bit of a hypocrite about the comments about hating the word bitch uttered by a man to a woman when Raph himself has said it I kinda feel it's unfair to drag up his past forum posts, we all post some things on here that we probably wish we hadn't.

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 03:55 PM
While I do agree he was a bit of a hypocrite about the comments about hating the word bitch uttered by a man to a woman when Raph himself has said it I kinda feel it's unfair to drag up his past forum posts, we all post some things on here that we probably wish we hadn't.
He's a nice guy and it shows. And I absolutely adore his friendship with Chanelle. I get the feeling they have a lot if fun together in there.

LukeB
19-06-2017, 03:58 PM
While I do agree he was a bit of a hypocrite about the comments about hating the word bitch uttered by a man to a woman when Raph himself has said it I kinda feel it's unfair to drag up his past forum posts, we all post some things on here that we probably wish we hadn't.

It is unfair especially when it's someone who isn't even watching it and has some kind of issue with Raph as a member but it's still unfair as a housemate levels too. I know he doesn't like this Natalie woman because she lied about sexual harassment which annoyed him because it's disgusting.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Raph View Post
"And now the dumb bitch sent some lawyer forms to James too for 'slandering her name' hahaha.

Natalie Negrotti is up there alongside Aryan, Ginamarie and Kaitlyn as a bottom tier of all time female housemate. Paulie was right she's as fake as the things on her chest!!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley. View Post
Nobody's going to take you seriously if you're just going to make derogatory remarks like this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raph View Post
I hear ya... but I call both boys and girls bitches. In this case what she did was really cruel and horrible so I felt like 'bitch' was appropriate.. but it's true it is a derogatory term used predominantly for woman, so the concern is totally ok on your part. That said, this girl really is a piece of work. One of BBUSA's very very worst. "

How can he be offended by someone using the bitch word when he calls women bitches himself. That's what I am trying to figure out.

What a bloody hypocrite !! and people say he's not being fake ?

sampvt
19-06-2017, 04:01 PM
What a bloody hypocrite !! and people say he's not being fake ?

he is as fake as his best buddies lips.

Nicky91
19-06-2017, 04:02 PM
None of them deserve to win atm..

yeah okay i get your point :)

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 04:02 PM
he is as fake as his best buddies lips.

And boobs and backside

Niamh.
19-06-2017, 04:06 PM
I find its very sheep like and fear of him reading posts when he gets back ,I personal do not give a flying one, Im honest

I don't think that's the case Chuff. It's natural for people who know him on here to have some loyalty towards him, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I seriously doubt any of us are worried about him reading our posts

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 04:13 PM
I don't think that's the case Chuff. It's natural for people who know him on here to have some loyalty towards him, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I seriously doubt any of us are worried about him reading our posts

I think he's doing great in there and when they do show him he is a good Housemate. Lovely personality as well. He's very polite and respectful, which is important for me.

joeysteele
19-06-2017, 04:13 PM
It is unfair especially when it's someone who isn't even watching it and has some kind of issue with Raph as a member but it's still unfair as a housemate levels too. I know he doesn't like this Natalie woman because she lied about sexual harassment which annoyed him because it's disgusting.

With you all the way Luke.

I have conversed with Raph on here for years, I also though would have supported him had I not.

Why, because simply he is the best there in my view, no over the top dramatics, into all that's going on.
Does all BB requests.
His diary room sessions are really good.

He comes across as friendly, interesting and a good team player.
All things I like in any housemate.

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 04:15 PM
With you all the way Luke.

I have conversed with Raph on here for years, I also though would have supported him had I not.

Why, because simply he is the best there in my view, no over the top dramatics, into all that's going on.
Does all BB requests.
His diary room sessions are really good.

He comes across as friendly, interesting and a good team player.
All things I like in any housemate.

I would have have supported him even if he wasn't a member. He has impeccable manners and he's always smiling and happy. What's not to like?

bots
19-06-2017, 04:20 PM
With you all the way Luke.

I have conversed with Raph on here for years, I also though would have supported him had I not.

Why, because simply he is the best there in my view, no over the top dramatics, into all that's going on.
Does all BB requests.
His diary room sessions are really good.

He comes across as friendly, interesting and a good team player.
All things I like in any housemate.

have to agree, never talked to Raph on the forum, but he strikes me as one of only a few that are not completely horrendous in the house. He may not be the best hm of all time, but he isn't the worst either, and he stands out as being normal this year in a house full of misfits, and that may be enough alone for him to win it.

Lostie!
19-06-2017, 04:21 PM
I find its very sheep like and fear of him reading posts when he gets back ,I personal do not give a flying one, Im honest

Why would anyone "fear" him reading their negative posts about him? :umm2:

And the whole "if you have a different opinion to me you're just being a sheep" train of thought is weak. At least counter an argument with something more substantial.

LukeB
19-06-2017, 04:21 PM
With you all the way Luke.

I have conversed with Raph on here for years, I also though would have supported him had I not.

Why, because simply he is the best there in my view, no over the top dramatics, into all that's going on.
Does all BB requests.
His diary room sessions are really good.

He comes across as friendly, interesting and a good team player.
All things I like in any housemate.

I think i would have too because he's a super fan and is a unique type character on BBUK. But he's the only one i know who is being themselves, he is friendly,kind and enthusiastic.He doesn't start anything he just defends himself and kills them with kindness, which we saw with Joe.

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 04:23 PM
Why would anyone "fear" him reading their negative posts about him? :umm2:

And the whole "if you have a different opinion to me you're just being a sheep" train of thought is weak. At least counter an argument with something more substantial.

I agree. We're all entitled to our own opinions.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 04:39 PM
I don't think that's the case Chuff. It's natural for people who know him on here to have some loyalty towards him, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I seriously doubt any of us are worried about him reading our posts

IMO it is why so many blindly support him

Fosse
19-06-2017, 04:42 PM
He's smart, funny, cheerful and kind - none of the other HMs come close, really.

vesavius
19-06-2017, 05:31 PM
Honestly, I don't think his rabid supporters here realise that their uncritical gushing and bigging him up for doing absolutely nothing has the opposite effect of what they are trying for.

I started off neutral towards him, then I slowly started to see this kind of posting, and now I want to see him actively fail.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 05:34 PM
Honestly, I don't think his rabid supporters here realise that their uncritical gushing and bigging him up for doing absolutely nothing has the opposite effect of what they are trying for.

I started off neutral towards him, then I slowly started to see this kind of posting, and now I want to see him actively fail.

It the constant fawning and making out he's the 2nd coming and they know EVERYTHING about him including what he thinks, its draining and so childish ,but Hey Ho whatever floats your boat

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 05:45 PM
Honestly, I don't think his rabid supporters here realise that their uncritical gushing and bigging him up for doing absolutely nothing has the opposite effect of what they are trying for.

I started off neutral towards him, then I slowly started to see this kind of posting, and now I want to see him actively fail.

He's doing brilliantly and that's all I care about. He's favourite to win and has a massive lead on the Tellymix poll. I'm happy and I don't care if some people don't like him. But I will defend him just like the other posters defend their favourites.

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 05:49 PM
Why is it that everyone is allowed to defend their favorites, but when we support Raph it's suddenly wrong? It's one rule for Raph and another for the other housemates. But this just makes me more determined to help him win.

chuff me dizzy
19-06-2017, 06:03 PM
Why is it that everyone is allowed to defend their favorites, but when we support Raph it's suddenly wrong? It's one rule for Raph and another for the other housemates. But this just makes me more determined to help him win.

Oh please Vanessa ....Stop it :facepalm:

caprimint
19-06-2017, 06:07 PM
Just because he gets less airtime than most and doesn't have arguments every day doesn't mean that. Imo he's got one of the best personalities, he's lovely, funny and smart. I enjoy listening to his conversations and he's very captivating when he speaks, I could listen to his views and opinions all day long.

sampvt
19-06-2017, 06:09 PM
Why is it that everyone is allowed to defend their favorites, but when we support Raph it's suddenly wrong? It's one rule for Raph and another for the other housemates. But this just makes me more determined to help him win.

holy crap vanessa, you should talk, youre getting too personally involved. where is the old vanessa we used to love. recently you becoming obsessed. shame. bless you, xxxxxxxx

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 07:12 PM
Just because he gets less airtime than most and doesn't have arguments every day doesn't mean that. Imo he's got one of the best personalities, he's lovely, funny and smart. I enjoy listening to his conversations and he's very captivating when he speaks, I could listen to his views and opinions all day long.

Well said. I think he's great the way he is. No one should change to please others.

starry
19-06-2017, 08:20 PM
He's friends with the totally empty Chanelle.

sampvt
19-06-2017, 08:42 PM
He's friends with the totally empty Chanelle.

not friends, he is using her

Vanessa
19-06-2017, 08:46 PM
He's friends with the totally empty Chanelle.

Chanelle is amazing :nono: