Should Lotan have been removed?

[BBUK-Fan]

Lotan has been removed.

[DouglasS]

From the clip I saw I don't think so. Since when was throwing a drink and shouting enough to be kicked out. Although people will vote 'YES' regardless because they hate Lotan rather than giving an objective view. If this was Chanelle however the vote would be 'NO' and I'm a fan of hers.

EVERY BB5 housemate bar Shell would have been ejected if that was the case. Probably the same about BB6 also

[letmein]

Uh, yeah. Duh.

[girlfighter1992]

From that clip alone I would say no but we haven't saw the whole thing yet

[Lostie!]

We haven't seen what happened in detail yet. But I'm sure it was justified because he's awful.

[EspeonBB]

We haven't seen the full thing yet so it's difficult to judge

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

we know he hurled a glass bottle towards someone like what else do we need to see :unsure:

[Jason.]

From the clip I saw I don't think so. Since when was throwing a drink and shouting enough to be kicked out. Although people will vote 'YES' regardless because they hate Lotan rather than giving an objective view. If this was Chanelle however the vote would be 'NO' and I'm a fan of hers.

EVERY BB5 housemate bar Shell would have been ejected if that was the case. Probably the same about BB6 also

Times have changed!

[Locke.]

Obviously not

[Nicky91]

Yes

[LukeB]

Yes

[Withano]

Some people have said the bottle was glass? Thats bordering on criminal.

If the bottle was plastic, then yeh ejection.

[Headie]

How are we supposed to know when we haven't seen the full ep yet?

[Barry.]

From that clip alone I would say no but we haven't saw the whole thing yet

Agree. But it must of been.

[Mullens123]

If he threw a glass bottle then yes. I briefly saw the clip and didn't see it leave his hand? I can't stand Lotan and im hoping someone wouldn't stoop low enough to throw it at a girl but ... wouldn't surprise me.

[Ashley.]

How are we supposed to know when we haven't seen the full ep yet?

Exactly what I was coming in to say.

[Epic.]

I'm not judging until the full episode airs. No way this was the only reason Lotan was removed, otherwise Bear for example would've been removed week 1

[LukeB]

How are we supposed to know when we haven't seen the full ep yet?

we did see a clip of the fight but maybe something else happened afterwards? but he did throw a plastic cup quite aggressively and it looked like he used his full strength and plus his bullying treatment towards Isabelle may have played into it?

[Withano]

I cant think of any scenario where throwing any object with that force towards a group of women can be excused, why do we need to wait til the whole ep?

[Beso]

No.


2 nights worth of action is not enough.

[Lostie!]

I didn't even see him throw the bottle/cup/whatever in the clip but I'm pretty confident he threw something for them to kick off like that. And Hannah said "it hit me", unlikely she's just talking about some drink.

[Jack_]

In terms of the series no, in terms of the incident I'll wait until we've seen the whole thing until I decide

[caprimint]

Nope. Chanelle should have been kicked out a long time ago though

[Ashley.]

I didn't even see him throw the bottle/cup/whatever in the clip but I'm pretty confident he threw something for them to kick off like that. And Hannah said "it hit me", unlikely she's just talking about some drink.

They edited out a scene in which a wild cat jumps over the garden wall, slaps Hannah in the ankle and scuttles off? Bastards x

(But yes, I doubt they would remove Lotan plainly for throwing drink on someone.)

[sampvt]

According to the clip, the tangoed slapper said something about his son which is why he reacted like he did. No forgiveness for aggression, but there are some things that will put anyone over the top and I fear this was a very low blow by the slapper. Also Debbie physically attacked someone and hannah was pushing. Total cluster**** and if Isabelle does not get a final for that, im done with this show. Its so drama biased and no longer fun.

[MrWong]

I cant think of any scenario where throwing any object with that force towards a group of women can be excused, why do we need to wait til the whole ep?

The contents of the bottle hit the girls not the actual bottle.

Looked like a beer bottle.

[Amy Jade]

From the clip I saw I don't think so. Since when was throwing a drink and shouting enough to be kicked out. Although people will vote 'YES' regardless because they hate Lotan rather than giving an objective view. If this was Chanelle however the vote would be 'NO' and I'm a fan of hers.

EVERY BB5 housemate bar Shell would have been ejected if that was the case. Probably the same about BB6 also

You have no proof of this at all, you can assume of course but plenty are unbiased with situations like this.

I think I was one of the last Kayleigh fans and she deserved to go, she threatened physical harm. Lotan deserves to go because he can't contain his anger and decided to launch a glass bottle at housemates.

If Issy or Chanelle (my faves) threw glass at somebody I would be fine with their removal too.

[Shaun]

and if Isabelle does not get a final for that, im done with this show.

I agree, she must make the final.

[Withano]

The contents of the bottle hit the girls not the actual bottle.

Looked like a beer bottle.

Oh right, did the bottle leave his hand?

[LukeB]

Oh right, did the bottle leave his hand?

I didn't see anything in his hands afterwards tbh :worry:

[Withano]

I didn't see anything in his hands afterwards tbh :worry:

I think thats where Id draw the line - if it left his hand, eject him - if it stays in his hand, then see apologetic he is in the diary room

[Mystic Mock]

From what I saw from the clip it's a warning offense at best.

Deborah also should've got a warning, but she probably has.

[Fosse]

Agree. But it must of been.

What does must of mean?

[SteveG2688]

I think he should have been, im glad he has. The eviction isnt cancelled so now Tom can go so thats 2 silly blokes down in one week!!

[starry]

If he threw a glass bottle then yes. I briefly saw the clip and didn't see it leave his hand? I can't stand Lotan and im hoping someone wouldn't stoop low enough to throw it at a girl but ... wouldn't surprise me.

Can a girl throw it at a man?

[Jian Yang]

The bottle doesn't leave his hand, 100% it doesn't. But the bottle was obviously still quite full and the beer hit Chanelle and the sisters. The plastic bottle that hits the the floor is what Chanelle throws in anger.

However the velocity in which he whips his arm around and sprays them with beer looked very dangerous, if that glass bottle had left his hand at that pace and hit someone in the head it could have been life threatening. He 100% deserved to go for that!

[Cal.]

I didn't even see him throw the bottle/cup/whatever in the clip but I'm pretty confident he threw something for them to kick off like that. And Hannah said "it hit me", unlikely she's just talking about some drink.

He threw a glass bottle at Isabelle but it hit Hannah.

[Cal.]

I'm pretty sure it leaves his hand?

[Kazanne]

She has never actually hit someone with anything but Lotan has so...

She hit Keiran in the head when she hit his cap off !!! Rebecca slipped on the eggs on the floor,even had to go to hospital.

[Jian Yang]

Change the speed to 0.5 and watch from 24 secs through 28, it 100% doesn't leave his hand.

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[Kazanne]

who was the spiteful sod who made him mad by saying something about his child,bloody low blow.

[bots]

who was the spiteful sod who made him mad by saying something about his child,bloody low blow.

there are so many aggressive types in there, that any number of them could and should be removed. The producers cast this lot of dreadful human beings

[smudgie]

Yes.
Far too aggressive.:fist:

[Epic.]

who was the spiteful sod who made him mad by saying something about his child,bloody low blow.

Isabelle right after he tried and failed to demean her appearance, giving her provocation to deliver an ultimate low blow :clap1:

[Vicky.]

From what I have seen nope. But surely there must be more to it.

[Vicky.]

Also no bottle was thrown. people seem to be seeing what they want to see. Fairly obvious the bottle didn't leave his hand...doesn't even slightly look like it did :laugh:

[bots]

Also no bottle was thrown. people seem to be seeing what they want to see. Fairly obvious the bottle didn't leave his hand...doesn't even slightly look like it did :laugh:

it was very heavy water though ... nothing like a little slipper to the head :laugh:

[Jian Yang]

Also no bottle was thrown. people seem to be seeing what they want to see. Fairly obvious the bottle didn't leave his hand...doesn't even slightly look like it did :laugh:

But imagine if it did leave his hand, even accidentally? If that would have hit someone on the head it would have easily knocked them unconscious. BB took him out for his own good imo.

He deserved to go, serves the 'least emotional, not bothered, not listening' one right...:wavey:

[Denver]

who was the spiteful sod who made him mad by saying something about his child,bloody low blow.

He is a terrible child if he treats his son like that id be so concerned

[smudgie]

Is the bonus that he won't grace our screens on BOTS etc?:smug:

[Vicky.]

Is the bonus that he won't grace our screens on BOTS etc?:smug:

IDK..Daley was ejected for actual violence and it couldn't even be disputed that his ejection was deserved. yet we had him on BOTS with Emma fawning over him :joker:

Wouldnt be surprised if he was on bots. Sukhvinder was on BOTS for a week as a walker too

[Kazanne]

Also no bottle was thrown. people seem to be seeing what they want to see. Fairly obvious the bottle didn't leave his hand...doesn't even slightly look like it did :laugh:

I cant watch the video so will watch it later,but there are different stories on here,but people need to remember the pretty hard flick Chanelle gave to Keiron when she knocked his cap off,and the slipper at whoever it was ,but cant wait to see it.

[susie q]

Dont like Lotan, and didnt want him too win, but not sure just from that clip that he deserved to be removed, will have to wait and see the whole episode, to see if he had winding Isobel up all day. I would have preferred to see him booed out of the house, interviewed properly, ie made to answer for his actions towards women. I agree that there are to many aggressive people in this time round.

[DouglasS]

I cant watch the video so will watch it later,but there are different stories on here,butpeople need to remember the pretty hard flick Chanelle gave to Keiron when she knocked his cap off,and the slipper at whoever it was ,but cant wait to see it.

To be fair knocking off someones hat isn't as bad as throwing a glass bottle at someone. I don't think either should have been removed however, I think Lotan was angry and just throwing the bottle and it happened to go in the direction of the sisters - Although I only watched the clip once so I'll have to see.

[Kazanne]

To be fair knocking off someones hat isn't as bad as throwing a glass bottle at someone. I don't think either should have been removed however, I think Lotan was angry and just throwing the bottle and it happened to go in the direction of the sisters - Although I only watched the clip once so I'll have to see.

The bottle never left his hand apparently:shrug:

[DouglasS]

The bottle never left his hand apparently:shrug:

Oh, people on here are making up lies then :fist:
From the clip I saw I don't think Lotan deserved to be removed. I understand why Kayleigh did [not because of her actions, but because what she was saying in the DR]

[rusticgal]

To be fair knocking off someones hat isn't as bad as throwing a glass bottle at someone. I don't think either should have been removed however, I think Lotan was angry and just throwing the bottle and it happened to go in the direction of the sisters - Although I only watched the clip once so I'll have to see.


It want a GLASS bottle ffs...you think they would let half of that house have a glass bottle at hand. You only drink water out of a glass bottle in restaurants...it was PLASTIC. However..that would still hurt.
Funny it hit Chanelle though...who couldn't understand Hannah getting distressed when she kicked her slipper at her..:shrug:

[Kazanne]

Oh, people on here are making up lies then :fist:
From the clip I saw I don't think Lotan deserved to be removed. I understand why Kayleigh did [not because of her actions, but because what she was saying in the DR]

I haven't seen the video some are saying it was a plastic bottle and never left his hand,but cant be sure till we see it.

[Vicky.]

I cant watch the video so will watch it later,but there are different stories on here,but people need to remember the pretty hard flick Chanelle gave to Keiron when she knocked his cap off,and the slipper at whoever it was ,but cant wait to see it.

Lotan throws beer at Isabelle (but seems to hit Hannah with it)
Chanelle then throws down her glass which is probably what people are thinking is Lotans bottle.

Even without it slowed down you can clearly see the bottle still in lotans hand :laugh:

[Cal.]

Change the speed to 0.5 and watch from 24 secs through 28, it 100% doesn't leave his hand.

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I stand corrected. It does look like it leaves his hand though. Freaky.

[pontyboi]

To be fair knocking off someones hat isn't as bad as throwing a glass bottle at someone. I don't think either should have been removed however, I think Lotan was angry and just throwing the bottle and it happened to go in the direction of the sisters - Although I only watched the clip once so I'll have to see.

Omg he didn't throw a glass bottle at anyone lol I really dislike the dude but dislike the uproar and egsagerating forum members more. Yes he was a tool so there's no need to even exaggerate stuff.

[DouglasS]

Omg he didn't throw a glass bottle at anyone lol I really dislike the dude but dislike the uproar and egsagerating forum members more. Yes he was a tool so there's no need to even exaggerate stuff.
Sorry I was just going by what people were saying - he definitely shouldn't have been removed from that clip alone then

[Kazanne]

Lotan throws beer at Isabelle (but seems to hit Hannah with it)
Chanelle then throws down her glass which is probably what people are thinking is Lotans bottle.

Even without it slowed down you can clearly see the bottle still in lotans hand :laugh:

Thanks Vicky

[smudgie]

He throws it, it's not in his hand.:shrug:

[Weyr]

Nope. Chanelle should have been kicked out a long time ago though

Totally agree, along with the Orange one too.:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Well..:laugh:

Should Chanelle have been removed for throwing a shoe at someone(which is much worse than abit of drink)?

[Weyr]

What's with all the PC crap? Since when did a drop of water cause harm to someone? They need to get a life.

[andybigbro]

Yes his behaviour is disgusting and it's really worrying he doesn't see it.

[Vicky.]

He throws it, it's not in his hand.:shrug:

I think he threw it behind him after swilling isabelle...after the 'throw' its still clearly in his hand. Its chanelles glass bouncing at isabelles feet

[joeysteele]

Overall,I'd say no.

Isabelle was out of order and the chaos from most of them made matters worse.

I don't care for Lotan,I think him arrogant but unless there was even more to this incident, no he should not have been ejected.

[Niamh.]

What's with all the PC crap? Since when did a drop of water cause harm to someone? They need to get a life.
It was beer I think

[Novo]

The water incident for me was borderline but the actual talk of psychically and mentally hurting someone let alone a woman he had to walk for, can't really take any risks when he has shown signs of being aggressive in the past, think Isabelle shouldn't have said about his son but Lotan reacted in the worst possible way

[Mullens123]

Yes... continuously ignored BB telling him to leave confrontation, breaking through the diary room door and contributing majorly to a potentially violent atmosphere. He said it himself that someone had to go, but the fool was too narcissistic and delusional to realize he was the only viable option.

[LukeB]

The answer is still yes

[EspeonBB]

He said he would destroy Isabelle physically and said she was lucky she only got hit by a drink so yes it's deserved

[Niamh.]

Overall,I'd say no.

Isabelle was out of order and the chaos from most of them made matters worse.

I don't care for Lotan,I think him arrogant but unless there was even more to this incident, no he should not have been ejected.
I dont think Isabelle was out of order, he was belittling her and being horrible all through the game, what she said was dead right

[Barry.]

Yes.

[Jordan.]

Same as Kayleigh I think he made it worse with his later comments. Saying you want to physically and mentally destroy a woman alone was enough reason for his ejection.

[Vicky.]

The water incident for me was borderline but the actual talk of psychically and mentally hurting someone let alone a woman he had to walk for, can't really take any risks when he has shown signs of being aggressive in the past, think Isabelle shouldn't have said about his son but Lotan reacted in the worst possible way

Plus breaking the diary room door

I actually think thats what got him thrown out you know, breaking BB property, not anything else :laugh2:

I do agree he had to be ejected after seeing it all. I did not based on the clip we saw earlier

[chuff me dizzy]

Having watched the full piece ....100% NO

[bots]

I dont think Isabelle was out of order, he was belittling her and being horrible all through the game, what she said was dead right

he was playing the big man in front of his pals, trying to humiliate a girl ... he is no role model

[Shaun]

Voted 'yes' tentatively before watching the episode having only seen the water incident, thought it might have been a little flimsy, but no, his comment about destroying her sealed the deal. He's a twat and this series is full of them.

[smudgie]

So, according to BB he threw the contents and then the bottle.:nono:

[Kazanne]

He throws it, it's not in his hand.:shrug:

He threw it on the floor we saw it smudgie

[Ant.]

After seeing the show, 100% yes. It's nowhere near as comparable as people made it out to be with Chanelle and her slipper, since Lotan made himself completely worse by talking about wanting to "destroy" her

[Niamh.]

he was playing the big man in front of his pals, trying to humiliate a girl ... he is no role model
Exactly, I cant understand the logic that he's fine to treat her like that but her one comment basically saying his behaviour was out of order was worse? Warpped logic, dont bring my son /daughter etc into it is just a soundbite

[MB.]

It's strange, because usually when a series has a high number of ejectees/walkers (especially on Channel 5), you get the sense that at least one of them might have been bumped to try and get the ratings up or cut the numbers, yet every one so far has been justified or has made total sense: Arthur was Shahbaz in toff form, Sukhvinder hated every minute and wasn't going to stick around without Imran, Kayleigh literally laid out the brutal physical torture that she was planning to inflict upon Chanelle in excruciating detail and Lotan proved himself to be a violent thug who'd punch the entire house to the ground if he was kept in any longer. Having said that, I've no doubt Charlotte will mysteriously vanish over the garden wall sometime soon and Savannah will be forcibly ejected once a blurry video of her calling Hilary Duff a fat bitch circa 2010 emerges.

[Vicky.]

It's strange, because usually when a series has a high number of ejectees/walkers (especially on Channel 5), you get the sense that at least one of them might have been bumped to try and get the ratings up or cut the numbers, yet every one so far has been justified or has made total sense: Arthur was Shahbaz in toff form, Sukhvinder hated every minute and wasn't going to stick around without Imran, Kayleigh literally laid out the brutal physical torture that she was planning to inflict upon Chanelle in excruciating detail and Lotan proved himself to be a violent thug who'd punch the entire house to the ground if he was kept in any longer. Having said that, I've no doubt Charlotte will mysteriously vanish over the garden wall sometime soon and Savannah will be forcibly ejected once a blurry video of her calling Hilary Duff a fat bitch circa 2010 emerges.

Indeed. I can see a few mor ejections tbh if it kicks off again (which is will.

I know Chanelle is popular on here but she is extremely lucky to still be there after her various behaviours. They cannot kepp ignoring her extremely aggressive side tbh

Deborah possibly

Ellie when pissed

Maybe a few of the others too...

[susie q]

Having seen the whole thing it was 100% right to remove him. Not only did he continue to inflame the situation by not staying in the diary room, he continued with threats and damage to the house. BB also said that they had spoken to him before about his behaviour towards women,(i found that quite telling) so maybe this was just the final straw, we only see 45 minutes a day, so maybe hes done other things. Also we dont know why he broke up with his ex. I dont think BB had a choice.