Bots blaming Raph for the fight

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Could they be any more obvious? They're trying to stop Raph from winning.
Blaming him for it was ridiculous. He actually tried to stop people from going at each other.
He didn't force Lotan to throw the drink. He did that by himself. But of course the show thinks Lotan has done nothing wrong :rolleyes:

[T*]

Omf what
Did they actually say this
I've turned off BOTS

[Epic.]

Well they didn't say Lotan did nothing wrong

[rph]

I thought it was ridiculous. He actually tried to stop people from going at each other. He didn't force Lotan to throw the drink. He did that by him. But of course the show thinks Lotan has done nothing wrong :rolleyes:

So True!

If anything he was doing a better job at security than security.

[Firewire]

They didn't say that, it's another overreaction from Vanessa

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I said that Raph is the new Jim. Whenever something goes wrong : it's Raph's fault :joker:

[Merry Mockmas]

It's very well known that BOTS live on a completely different planet to the rest of the BB audience during certain situations.

It's best to laugh them off Vanessa.

[bots]

raph caused it by feeding the aggression of the sisters and Chanelle for days. He is not blameless

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Well they didn't say Lotan did nothing wrong

I would say he was to blame. He threw the drink . but no, of course for Bots it was all Raph's fault. Urgh

[Merry Mockmas]

raph caused it by feeding the aggression of the sisters and Chanelle for days. He is not blameless

The argument was between Isabelle and Lotan so how's that Raph's fault?

If anybody else should get the blame then It's Ellie for antagonising Isabelle before the argument broke out.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The argument was between Isabelle and Lotan so how's that Raph's fault?

Exactly. Lotan throwing the drink caused the fight.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

He created the split and now no one in the house sees it. Even joe loves him as a son. Playing a blinder.

[Epic.]

I said that Raph is the new Jim. Whenever something goes wrong : it's Raph's fault :joker:

Uh Jim was to blame for lots.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He created the split and now no one in the house sees it. Even joe loves him as a son. Playing a blinder.

But Lotan threw the drink. Something that Bots conveniently failed to mention. :think:

[Merry Mockmas]

He created the split and now no one in the house sees it. Even joe loves him as a son. Playing a blinder.

Personally the only people responsible for that argument was Ellie, Lotan, and on a minor scale Isabelle.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

But Lotan threw the drink. Something that Bots conveniently failed to mention. :think:

She never said he cause the arguement. But his brillent game play was a factor for all the tension in the house

[Merry Mockmas]

Uh Jim was to blame for lots.

This.

Him trying to strain poor Dappy's relationship with Luisa was horrible to watch, vile bully.:bored:

[SoberLikeGizmo]

The old lady said she still liked raph anyway

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Personally the only people responsible for that argument was Ellie, Lotan, and on a minor scale Isabelle.

Why didn't Bots mention Lotan throwing the drink? If anyone else had done it they would have crucified them.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

She never said he cause the arguement. But his brillent game play was a factor for all the tension in the house

They tried to shift the blame from Lotan to Raph.

[sampvt]

Judy the trick cyclist mentioned that Raph was behind all sorts and inferred he was behind a lot of the crap in there and all the bots audience clapped which surprised me. They seem to love the crap he causes but they dont like him. Game players can win but only if they can play a shady game. Raph might as well hand out scripts on his game plan as he is a ****ty player. he is as obvious and Isabellends tan.

[storybrooke]

I wouldn't say it was Raph's fault. Lotan was mainly to blame because he threw a drink at the wrong people.

However, I do think that Raph is playing a game. But this isn't a bad thing because it seems only sensible to have a gameplan in a bloody game show

[Rob!]

I'm sorry but if Raph is playing a game then he deserves to win because I can't ****ing see it.

[Merry Mockmas]

Why didn't Bots mention Lotan throwing the drink? If anyone else had done it they would have crucified them.

Maybe because Lotan's lost his job they don't want to rub salt into the wounds.

This is why Ellie should've been their next target as she caused the tension well before Isabelle and Lotan started arguing on each other which then led to the bottle being thrown.

A much more understandable target than Raph anyway.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Maybe because Lotan's lost his job they don't want to rub salt into the wounds.

This is why Ellie should've been their next target as she caused the tension well before Isabelle and Lotan started arguing on each other which then led to the bottle being thrown.

A much more understandable target than Raph anyway.
They didn't mention Ellie being aggressive. But Raph who tried to stop people fighting he's the bad one? Why do i bother watch that show? :crazy:

[Merry Mockmas]

They didn't mention Ellie being aggressive. But Raph who tried to stop people fighting he's the bad one? Why do i bother watch that show? :crazy:

Because BB fanatics can't help ourselves.:joker:

[Rustic bauble]

raph caused it by feeding the aggression of the sisters and Chanelle for days. He is not blameless


He has fed the fire tbf...he has been telling tales to stir the pot..FOR SURE :laugh:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Because BB fanatics can't help ourselves.:joker:

It's not balanced at all. Their favourites always get away with everything :bored:

[RhysJones]

Raph has literally caused the divide in the house by bating Hannah, Deborah, and Chanelle for weeks now whilst turning both groups against each other. Then it came to blows and he just stood back and let Hannah and Deborah and Chanelle take the flack again

[Amy Jade]

I didn't hear this all I heard was Judy mention Raph has caused agro by sitting with the scum gang and feeding his friends info she didn't even drag him for it.

She's not wrong either he has done it a few times but I enjoy it

[jennyjuniper]

I STILL think Lotan instigated his own removal to some extent. He read the not so flattering tweets about himself, so he had some idea that he wasn't as well liked by the public as he thought. I don't think he could stand the idea of being nominated and possibly losing to someone like Hannah or Isabelle in public.His oversized ego had been fed even more by the blind adoration of his sheep Ellie,Savannah, Keiron and Tom.
As for Bots, there are just a bigger flock of sheep, who can't seem to realise that if you are a contestant in a game, then EVERYONE is a game player. It's how you play the game that determines how well you do, or it should be anyway.

[Marsh.]

They didn't say that, it's another overreaction from Vanessa

:joker::joker::joker:

[y.winter]

He did initiate the split as a firm divide in the house, including labelling each group. It might have been another catalyst for fight night, but not his fault.
He's losing control of his gameplan.

[Parmy]

Exactly. Lotan throwing the drink caused the fight.

Ellie caused the fight by getting involved..lotan was fine until she piped up at ibble.

[Nicky91]

maybe Rylan can't take it that Raph is a good housemate and better than he was :hehe:


so he wants to bring him down through BOTS :fan:

[Epic.]

maybe Rylan can't take it that Raph is a good housemate and better than he was :hehe:


so he wants to bring him down through BOTS :fan:

no

[Kazanne]

maybe Rylan can't take it that Raph is a good housemate and better than he was :hehe:


so he wants to bring him down through BOTS :fan:

It was nothing to do with Rylan Nicky.

[chuff me dizzy]

And they are right, its him who caused all the bad feelings in the house with his big girls blouse tell tailing

[Nicky91]

It was nothing to do with Rylan Nicky.

i only was thinking about it :)

[sampvt]

For the first time in a long time regarding BB.....the general public are getting tired of game players but the forums still think they are great. This is why the voters and the forum poles are so far apart. I mean the last time tellymix or our own polls were correct, most of our forum members were still doing there 5 times tables.

[Marsh.]

For the first time in a long time regarding BB.....the general public are getting tired of game players but the forums still think they are great. This is why the voters and the forum poles are so far apart. I mean the last time tellymix or our own polls were correct, most of our forum members were still doing there 5 times tables.
The general public aren't watching pal.

You wouldn't even require your 5 times tables to calculate the pitiful viewing figures of this pitiful show.

[vesavius]

Could they be any more obvious? They're trying to stop Raph from winning.
Blaming him for it was ridiculous. He actually tried to stop people from going at each other.
He didn't force Lotan to throw the drink. He did that by himself. But of course the show thinks Lotan has done nothing wrong :rolleyes:

The point that they made was valid. What they said was the truth. It was surprisingly astute as an observation for BOTS, I thought.

Raph sneaking around spreading poison from group to group *did* contribute to the build up of that fight.

I made a thread about it before, and my opinion hasn't changed. The guy is a nasty little slimy snake looking to create tension and hate.

(Yes,I know snakes are not slimy, but Raph is!)

[Vicky.]

Can someone tell me what was actually said as I cannot see how Raph could be blamed for the fight tbh. The divide is most certainly his doing though.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Can someone tell me what was actually said as I cannot see how Raph could be blamed for the fight tbh. The divide is most certainly his doing though.

I don't think she actually blamed him for Fight Night just the divide which in a roundabout way led to Fight Night i guess?

[Kazanne]

I don't think she actually blamed him for Fight Night just the divide which in a roundabout way led to Fight Night i guess?

This is about right.

[Vicky.]

I don't think she actually blamed him for Fight Night just the divide which in a roundabout way led to Fight Night i guess?

OK thanks. OTT thread then, though I should have expected it really :laugh:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

OK thanks. OTT thread then, though I should have expected it really :laugh:

They didn't blame him directly, but they hinted at it. For me he had no part in the fighting. He stopped people from going at each other.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

What annoyed me is that they played down Lotan involvement and didn't even mention Ellie. While only talking about Raph. Urgh

[Vicky.]

They didn't blame him directly, but they hinted at it. For me he had no part in the fighting. He stopped people from going at each other.

Of course he didn't, if it wasn't for him Deborah would have knocked Ellie out and it all would have been worse. he was better than the bloody security :laugh:

[bots]

What annoyed me is that they played down Lotan involvement and didn't even mention Ellie. While only talking about Raph. Urgh

In the scheme of things, strategically, by his actions and his words (feeding his vipers with gossip to wind them up) he was responsible

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Of course he didn't, if it wasn't for him Deborah would have knocked Ellie out and it all would have been worse. he was better than the bloody security :laugh:

I was expecting Bots to praise him for stopping Deborah from hitting Ellie. Instead they went on about him gossiping. As if the others don't do it., :bored:

[vesavius]

What annoyed me is that they played down Lotan involvement and didn't even mention Ellie. While only talking about Raph. Urgh

Because the point being discussed *was* about Raph. Everything they said was correct.

They can't talk about every HM you want them to in every short discussion. They have to focus on a point, their time is extremely limited. In this case they chose to look at the part that Raph definitely played in the build up to this situation and how he played a big part in setting it up.

He deliberately worked to spread hate between the groups.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Something tells me they're trying to stop Raph from winning. But he's so nice the only negative thing they have about him is the gossiping :laugh:

[sampvt]

Something tells me they're trying to stop Raph from winning. But he's so nice the only negative thing they have about him is the gossiping :laugh:

I dont think they are trying to stop him winning by telling the obvious truth but Raph needs to be applauded because he has got most of this forum under his spell and the fall from grace and the aftermath and realisation that he has conned you all will be forum gold.

He is little more than a slimy little tell tale with a game plan that only includes **** stirring and forming a clique of outcasts and oddballs. His faux attention to supporting them is only an act that protects his own investment in keeping his underlings together. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to see this.

[bots]

Something tells me they're trying to stop Raph from winning. But he's so nice the only negative thing they have about him is the gossiping :laugh:

Is a commander responsible for putting his troops in to battle, or the individual soldiers. The commander always takes responsibility, and Raph was the commander. What the troops do on the battlefield, is their responsibility yes, but overall responsibility rests with raph

[Macie Lightfoot]

Something tells me they're trying to stop Raph from winning. But he's so nice the only negative thing they have about him is the gossiping :laugh:

Something tells me you're once again looking for any fake evidence that the show and production are against your favorite, so that way if/when they win you can go on and on about how much they had to overcome even though it was the most straightforward and obvious result for the past month.

[sampvt]

Something tells me you're once again looking for any fake evidence that the show and production are against your favorite, so that way if/when they win you can go on and on about how much they had to overcome even though it was the most straightforward and obvious result for the past month.

Whoops is that called a rinsing, im new to this.

[Robodog]

Judi James was right in highlighting what major part Raph plays in sh-t stirring

How he listens in on the garden gang than runs to Thorn cottage with the gossip, gets the others fired up: "oh you won't believe what I just heard them say about you, but don't say anything! Don't say I told you!" etc

Playground snitch.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Judi James was right in highlighting what major part Raph plays in sh-t stirring

How he listens in on the garden gang than runs to Thorn cottage with the gossip, gets the others fired up: "oh you won't believe what I just heard them say about you, but don't say anything! Don't say I told you!" etc

Playground snitch.

That had nothing to do with Lotan throwing his drink to the girls.

[Robodog]

That had nothing to do with Lotan throwing his drink to the girls.

I know

Judi James didn't blame him for that. She highlighted how much he stokes up everyone's fire in general, particularly those in Thorn cottage

[BBDodge]

Raph created the original divide but it's Isabelle and Savannah who are widening it, presumably some newbie tactic to cancel out the originals' advantage.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Raph created the original divide but it's Isabelle and Savannah who are widening it, presumably some newbie tactic to cancel out the originals' advantage.

I agree. He hasn't caused the fight, Isabelle did with her comments and Lotan took it too far.

[vesavius]

Whoops is that called a rinsing, im new to this.

:joker::joker::joker:

[vesavius]

I agree. He hasn't caused the fight

Raph spreads hate. Hate starts fights. It's pretty simple.