"I have a bruise"? Look who was proven a liar, while Ellie was cleared.

[vesavius]

Shame on the people that took the opportunity out there to jump all over her on Twitter and the like, spreading their toxic lies, and the ones ready to jump on the bandwagon and believe the worst with no evidence.

"I have a bruise"? Really, no you don't, but you are a liar.

But, I guess that settles that. Deb was warned for aggressive behaviour, Ellie was not. Ellie was fully cleared of hitting anyone, exposing the lie.

Claiming someone physically struck you when they didn't is probably one of the scummiest things I have seen done on BB. It's such a serious accusation. A real attempt to falsely accuse another person of breaking the actual law and ruin their reputation. Everyone even 1% honest should be condemning it.

The sisters are unstable liars and a danger to the other HMs. They have pulled this bait and switch (be aggressive, and when you get a reaction turn victim, even if you have to lie) too many times now.

[Jessica.]

She did it her, you can see in this slowed gif. It wasn't particularly on purpose but still her fault since she was being so reckless.
https://puu.sh/wuNxj/31ac1cbf4e.gif

[Jian Yang]

No doubt Ellie's hand connected with Hannah's face/head going by that gif. Why Ellie felt the need to get involved like she did is beyond me. It was actually nothing to do with her. And judging by tonight's episode she can't have been that obsessed with Lotan like we was lead to believe, she didn't seem to give a toss he was removed.

She's a sly one is that Ellie, along with Kieran. Both sly and untrustworthy. What you see is what you get with the others, good or bad, with them you never know what's really going on.

[armand.kay]

https://puu.sh/wuNxj/31ac1cbf4e.gif
yeah ellie may of not of hit her on purpose here, but it is incredibly irresponsible of bb to not even mention that she may of been hit hannah by accident

[Northern Monkey]

Hannah confirmed liar.That was not a "hit" and definitely would not cause a bruise.

[Kazanne]

That gif is not evidence at all, I see no connection at all just a bit of a jump at the end,so will trust BB they have the evidence.

[Parmy]

Dont like hannah.

[chuff me dizzy]

Did I say yesterday on the thread that wanted Ellie hung at dawn ,that Ellie DID not hit the habitual whiner ? :shrug: .... as soon as her arse sat down she told us about her"bruise"in an effort to get Ellie into bother ..... then when BB told her to get over it now ,she said she already had done :shocked: And once again she threw in the bully card on her way upstairs

[sampvt]

BB have the cameras with slo mo and they said she didnt hit her so thats where it ends, Ellie has been cleared and all the threads and posts slagging ellie off for being aggressive are nothing more than ill informed rubbish. Hannah has been outed as a drama queen and a liar and her sister isnt much better. Ellie did nothing more than act as a mediator, period.

[andybigbro]

BB have the cameras with slo mo and they said she didnt hit her so thats where it ends, Ellie has been cleared and all the threads and posts slagging ellie off for being aggressive are nothing more than ill informed rubbish. Hannah has been outed as a drama queen and a liar and her sister isnt much better. Ellie did nothing more than act as a mediator, period.

Yes because BB always tells the truth :rolleyes:

[Littlegreen]

You can see Ellie backhand her in that gif... live in denial if you want OP.

[sampvt]

You can see Ellie backhand her in that gif... live in denial if you want OP.

I think you need to re evaluate your post, it makes no sense. You are looking at a very bad 2 inch square low quality gif, they have hi tech equipment and if they lied they would have a lot to lose. You may live in denial if you want, i live in reality land.

[vesavius]

She did it her, you can see in this slowed gif. It wasn't particularly on purpose but still her fault since she was being so reckless.


Oh, that shows nothing. You are seeing what you want to see to fill a biased agenda.

Even when Ellie is cleared, you still push that lie and lack the humility to just admit that she was falsely accused.

Dishonest in the extreme.

[Garfie]

BB have the cameras with slo mo and they said she didnt hit her so thats where it ends, Ellie has been cleared and all the threads and posts slagging ellie off for being aggressive are nothing more than ill informed rubbish. Hannah has been outed as a drama queen and a liar and her sister isnt much better. Ellie did nothing more than act as a mediator, period.

Whether Ellie hit Hannah or not, without doubt Ellie was behaving in an aggressive manner- shouting, screaming, trying to square up to others and repeatedly shouting 'Hit me!' That much is undeniable and imo Ellie should have had a warning as she inflamed the situation massively.

[Kazanne]

Whether Ellie hit Hannah or not, without doubt Ellie was behaving in an aggressive manner- shouting, screaming, trying to square up to others and repeatedly shouting 'Hit me!' That much is undeniable and imo Ellie should have had a warning as she inflamed the situation massively.

Chanelle was a bad,nothing to say about her ?

[vesavius]

I think you need to re evaluate your post, it makes no sense. You are looking at a very bad 2 inch square low quality gif, they have hi tech equipment and if they lied they would have a lot to lose. You may live in denial if you want, i live in reality land.

Exactly. That gif is blurred enough to let people see what they want to see, or to deliberately misrepresent.

Even for BB I am shocked that some viewers aren't able to actually just acknowledge the lie and condemn a person that makes up being hit to create victim hood for themselves.

[chuff me dizzy]

I said yesterday ,you could see clearly on TV that it was Deborahs arm that caught Hannah

[vesavius]

Whether Ellie hit Hannah or not

Oh, nice attempt to brush away that Ellie did not hit anyone, as the footage that BB examined has supported.


without doubt Ellie was behaving in an aggressive manner- shouting, screaming, trying to square up to others and repeatedly shouting 'Hit me!'


Ellie was in a defensive position for 99% of that situation, being pushed back. She did not square up to anyone once. The only reason she shouted "hit me" was because she was being charged and she thought it was going to happen anyhow.

[Withano]

Chanelle was a bad,nothing to say about her ?

Chanelle was one of the best behaved :suspect: what did she do?

[vesavius]

Chanelle was one of the best behaved :suspect: what did she do?

I like Chan, I think she is amazing BB, but she did smash a glass on the floor in anger. She probably deserved to be removed for that if Lotan was. I don't even like Lotan, but equal rules should be applied and she was as bad as him and has been all season in terms of bead behaviour.

I personally think neither should have been removed, but i think BB knew that Lotan was walking anyway and used him as a sacrificial goat.

[Garfie]

Chanelle was a bad,nothing to say about her ?

I thought this thread was about Ellie?

However, as you have asked the question, I agree that Chanelle lost it too, on that and on a number of other occasions.

The thing is though, just because one person is aggressive it doesn't another person innocent. Ellie was undeniably aggressive on this occasion, and that fact remains the same no matter what others did.

[Garfie]

Oh, nice attempt to brush away that Ellie did not hit anyone, as the footage that BB examined has supported.





Ellie was in a defensive position for 99% of that situation, being pushed back. She did not square up to anyone once. The only reason she shouted "hit me" was because she was being charged and she thought it was going to happen anyhow.

Watch it again. She was shouting 'Hit me' in people's faces at the bottom of the stairs before any 'charging' occurred. That's not a defensive position no matter what you suggest. Hannah had her back to Ellie at the bottom of the stairs, yet Charlotte was trying to stand in between them and push Ellie back - why would Charlotte do that if she wasn't worried about what Ellie was doing?

And just so that you know, I am not defending Chanelle, Hannah, Deborah, Lotan, etc- they all played a part and all showed aggression, but Ellie did too.

It's good to support your favourites, but not to blindly defend them no matter what they do.

[Garfie]

I like Chan, I think she is amazing BB, but she did smash a glass on the floor in anger. She probably deserved to be removed for that if Lotan was. I don't even like Lotan, but equal rules should be applied and she was as bad as him and has been all season in terms of bead behaviour.

I personally think neither should have been removed, but i think BB knew that Lotan was walking anyway and used him as a sacrificial goat.

It was a plastic bottle she threw on the floor at her feet. BB said that yesterday when they discussed it with her.

And if you listen again to what BB said they were ejecting Lotan for, it was not just the throwing of the water or bottle, or whatever it was, it was for his 'isolating and intimidating behaviour, especially towards women' over 'several days' amongst other things.

[sungrass]

Watch it again. She was shouting 'Hit me' in people's faces at the bottom of the stairs before any 'charging' occurred. That's not a defensive position no matter what you suggest. Hannah had her back to Ellie at the bottom of the stairs, yet Charlotte was trying to stand in between them and push Ellie back - why would Charlotte do that if she wasn't worried about what Ellie was doing?

And just so that you know, I am not defending Chanelle, Hannah, Deborah, Lotan, etc- they all played a part and all showed aggression, but Ellie did too.

It's good to support your favourites, but not to blindly defend them no matter what they do.

This. Ellie is not going to win so stop reaching - Chanelle will win.

[Withano]

I like Chan, I think she is amazing BB, but she did smash a glass on the floor in anger. She probably deserved to be removed for that if Lotan was. I don't even like Lotan, but equal rules should be applied and she was as bad as him and has been all season in terms of bead behaviour.

I personally think neither should have been removed, but i think BB knew that Lotan was walking anyway and used him as a sacrificial goat.

Bb said it was a plastic cup didnt they? Thats incredibly light compared to the majority of hms - if it was glass and I heard wrong then Id half-agree if she threw it across the room, and not towards her feet (but she deffo wasnt drinking from a bottled beer like Lotan so i dont think im wrong tbh)

[vesavius]

Bb said it was a plastic cup didnt they? Thats incredibly light compared to the majority of hms - if it was glass and I heard wrong then Id half-agree if she threw it across the room, and not towards her feet (but she deffo wasnt drinking from a bottled beer like Lotan so i dont think im wrong tbh)

yeah, but the cups they use are rigid plastic, not disposable throwaway ones. Throwing them around and shattering them is a problem, which I guess was what BB was saying.

Lotan didn't throw anything solid directly at anyone either, just a bit of liquid.

I am not saying that she should have been removed, really. I am saying that neither of them should have been. They were actually as bad as each other in many ways. I do find Chan much more likable and good to watch though. i am just trying to be objective about it.

[Rustic bauble]

She did it her, you can see in this slowed gif. It wasn't particularly on purpose but still her fault since she was being so reckless.
https://puu.sh/wuNxj/31ac1cbf4e.gif


She lost her balance and caught her...it was an accident. She was trying to stop the raging sisters go up the stairs. She was trying to stop the confrontation. It wasn't reckless...reckless would be standing to one side and doing nothing.
The sisters have a massive blame mentality...massive chips on there shoulders and it doesn't take much for them to get aggressive, especially Hannah. To accuse Ellie of punching her was a massive lie...if Ellie had hit her deliberately she would have been sent packing and BB have obviously studied the footage in better quality than we have on that clip.

[vesavius]

Watch it again. She was shouting 'Hit me' in people's faces at the bottom of the stairs

"peoples"

You mean those that were already aggressively squaring up to her and pushing her back with their threatened violence?

To blame the defensive person saying "hit me" over the aggressive person clearly wanting to do the hitting is incredibly skewed. Dishonest, even.



It's good to support your favourites, but not to blindly defend them no matter what they do.

I am actually quite objective, especially compared to most here. I would admit it if I honestly agreed, but me disagreeing with you doesn't mean I am 'blindly defending'. I saw the same show, I came to my own conclusions. I am not 'blind' because I interpreted what happened differently to you. You honestly don't have the automatic ultimate truth. I would condemn Ellie if I honestly thought she was in the wrong here. I have done so to supported HMs before in the past and have simply stopped supporting them.

I simply disagree with your interpretation.

[vesavius]

She lost her balance and caught her...it was an accident. She was trying to stop the raging sisters go up the stairs. She was trying to stop the confrontation. It wasn't reckless...reckless would be standing to one side and doing nothing.
The sisters have a massive blame mentality...massive chips on there shoulders and it doesn't take much for them to get aggressive, especially Hannah. To accuse Ellie of punching her was a massive lie...if Ellie had hit her deliberately she would have been sent packing and BB have obviously studied the footage in better quality than we have on that clip.

Truth.

[ChristmasNeeve]

She lost her balance and caught her...it was an accident. She was trying to stop the raging sisters go up the stairs. She was trying to stop the confrontation. It wasn't reckless...reckless would be standing to one side and doing nothing.
The sisters have a massive blame mentality...massive chips on there shoulders and it doesn't take much for them to get aggressive, especially Hannah. To accuse Ellie of punching her was a massive lie...if Ellie had hit her deliberately she would have been sent packing and BB have obviously studied the footage in better quality than we have on that clip.

But how would Hannah know it was an accident in the heat of the moment though? I don't think she was lying, I mean she did connect with her so that's true, it all happened really quickly and she doesn't have access to the cameras like BB do to play it back slowly etc :shrug:

[sungrass]

It was a plastic bottle she threw on the floor at her feet. BB said that yesterday when they discussed it with her.

And if you listen again to what BB said they were ejecting Lotan for, it was not just the throwing of the water or bottle, or whatever it was, it was for his 'isolating and intimidating behaviour, especially towards women' over 'several days' amongst other things.

Lotan had been simmering for days and then his last two days he was like a volcano just waiting to erupt they said they were going "casper" isolbelle - ghost her - saying things like she is not intelligent enough to speak to him - what an arrogant man - and then saying - look shes all alone no one likes her in the house - when they had taken up the smoking area - she was probably too intimated

[ChristmasNeeve]

Lotan had been simmering for days and then his last two days he was like a volcano just waiting to erupt they said they were going "casper" isolbelle - ghost her - saying things like she is not intelligent enough to speak to him - what an arrogant man - and then saying - look shes all alone no one likes her in the house - when they had taken up the smoking area - she was probably too intimated

Ikr? Yet people still vilify her as the one giving out the "low blow" :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Lying cow saying she wasn't running for Ellie,she was running for the door

[vesavius]

Lying cow saying she wasn't running for Ellie,she was running for the door

They are honestly just full of ****. The truth is though Lying about an assault is actually really serious and can ruin real lives and careers outside of the house. It is falsely accusing someone of a real crime and is as low as you can get in that house. It has real world implications. it can severely damage a real life. If this was the outside world, Deb would have pushed this assault accusation all the way. She is scum.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Lying cow saying she wasn't running for Ellie,she was running for the door

That was Deborah not Hannah

[chuff me dizzy]

They are honestly just full of ****. The truth is though Lying about an assault is actually really serious and can ruin real lives and careers outside of the house. It is falsely accusing someone of a real crime and is as low as you can get in that house. It has real world implications. it can severely damage a real life. If this was the outside world, Deb would have pushed this assault accusation all the way. She is scum.

:clap1: Then when she got called to the diary room she tried to push it that she had been bullied :conf: This is the same cow that got right into Lotan and Kierons faces ,along with chasing Ellie up the stairs to attack her

[Garfie]

Bb said it was a plastic cup didnt they? Thats incredibly light compared to the majority of hms - if it was glass and I heard wrong then Id half-agree if she threw it across the room, and not towards her feet (but she deffo wasnt drinking from a bottled beer like Lotan so i dont think im wrong tbh)

Bottle or cup, they definitely said it was plastic, and she definitely threw it down at her feet.

[vesavius]

:clap1: Then when she got called to the diary room she tried to push it that she had been bullied :conf: This is the same cow that got right into Lotan and Kierons faces ,along with chasing Ellie up the stairs to attack her

They pull this dishonest bait and switch (be aggressive, get people reacting, switch to victim) all the damned time. And yet people here still were willing to take their word because it suited their agenda. Even now, the hardcore are still debating that the punch actually happened, despite BB clearing Ellie absolutely and proving Deb a liar. They still attack Ellie, rather than the false accuser. They still attack Ellie, rather than the one actually warned for being aggressive.

And they still expect their posts going forward to be taken seriously and be credible?

[vesavius]

Bottle or cup, they definitely said it was plastic, and she definitely threw it down at her feet.

yes, but as explained, these are rigid plastic 'glasses'. They are not disposable party cups.

The can cleary be dangerous and be cracked/ shattered if thrown with force.

[chuff me dizzy]

They pull this dishonest bait and switch (be aggressive, get people reacting, turn switch to victim) all the damned time. And yet people here still were willing to take their word because it suited their agenda. Even now, the hardcore are still debating that the punch actually happened, despite BB clearing Ellie absolutely and proving Deb a liar. They still attack Ellie, rather than the false accuser. they still attack Ellie, rather than the one actually warned for being aggressive.

And they still expect their posts going forward to be taken seriously and be credible?

Constant race card threat, this is why BB daren't do anything to them

[Kazanne]

Bb said it was a plastic cup didnt they? Thats incredibly light compared to the majority of hms - if it was glass and I heard wrong then Id half-agree if she threw it across the room, and not towards her feet (but she deffo wasnt drinking from a bottled beer like Lotan so i dont think im wrong tbh)

She broke whatever it was glass/plastic whatever,and if it was the latter plastic takes some force to break,she's aggressive,at least have the bottle(excuse the pun) to admit it.

[bots]

She broke whatever it was glass/plastic whatever,and if it was the latter plastic takes some force to break,she's aggressive,at least have the bottle(excuse the pun) to admit it.

yep, its about the level of aggression shown, and Chanelle had that by the bucket load

[sampvt]

Chanel is rapidly becoming this years helen wood for warnings

[jyunga]

It's amazing how biased people are based on who they like and don't like in the house. Lotan aside, it was the sisters and Chanelle (verbally) that blew their tosses and got aggressive. Deborah got all up in Lotan's face. Ellie definitely flipped out more then she should have, but to claim to be hit and say you were bullying is ****ing pathetic. The sisters are loud, obnoxious creatures that add nothing of substance to the show aside from lashing out at the "pretty people" who everyone loves to hate on the internet. If this was a house of Raph's and you had the sister flipping out you'd all be crucifying them. It's so gross that house mates become so loved for just being twats to the popular twats.

[Robodog]

OF COURSE Hannah was lying. OF COURSE SHE WAS.

Here are many reasons why.

1. BB have multiple cameras. They see far more than any of us. They only show an edited amount on TV. No audience member can claim to see more than BB does.

2. BB simply cannot afford the risk of allowing a HM to physically attack another. If HMs are ejected for threatening violence, do you really think they would be allowed to stay having committed actual violence? Of course not.

3. Hannah has lied before:
After Lotan put the plastic mouse in her bed, her comeback was that 'she has a phobia of mice that gives her panic attacks'. If this were true then she would not have held the mouse up. If this were true then she would not have been so un-bothered when Raph put the same mouse near her later on. She lies tactically.

4. Hannah plays dirty in arguments:
Like the mouse incident, she will say or do anything to 'win' her argument and think nothing of giving a low blow. She switches from being 'aggressive' to 'passive aggressive', whatever it takes for her to come out on top. Classic example being her aggressive shouting at Rebecca; but then when Rebecca pointed out Hannah's aggression, Hannah then switched to passive aggressive mode, eluding to her skin colour as the issue. This was passive aggression playing the victim/race card as a way of destroying her opponent. Race is a serious issue, Hannah knows this; yet she was perfectly happy to try and smear Rebecca with racism, just as she was perfectly happy to try and smear Ellie with assault. It's called playing dirty.

5. Hannah is morally inconsistent:

She has given these soapbox speeches, claiming to be all for unity, peace, love etc, highlighting the importance of seeing beyond appearances "before colour, I am Hannah" etc .... Yet she is quite happy to attack Tom for his appearance calling him 'extra small'. Can you imagine if Tom had attacked her appearance! You think she would be equally as happy to accept that kind of appearance-based insult from him?

Hannah and Deborah were defending each other on fight night, as you can expect from sisters who are so close. But they both lied. Hannah lied about the bruise/attack from Ellie 'punching' her. Deborah lied about her intimidating charge up the stairs at Ellie, later claiming she was 'heading for the exit'.

OK sisters, defend yourselves, I get that. But please OWN your actions. Don't try and weasel out of it. People may forgive your aggressive actions, it is BB after all, it always gets heated. BUT you have lost a lot of support now because of your lies.

[sampvt]

OF COURSE Hannah was lying. OF COURSE SHE WAS.

Here are many reasons why.

1. BB have multiple cameras. They see far more than any of us. They only show an edited amount on TV. No audience member can claim to see more than BB does.

2. BB simply cannot afford the risk of allowing a HM to physically attack another. If HMs are ejected for threatening violence, do you really think they would be allowed to stay having committed actual violence? Of course not.

3. Hannah has lied before:
After Lotan put the plastic mouse in her bed, her comeback was that 'she has a phobia of mice that gives her panic attacks'. If this were true then she would not have held the mouse up. If this were true then she would not have been so un-bothered when Raph put the same mouse near her later on. She lies tactically.

4. Hannah plays dirty in arguments:
Like the mouse incident, she will say or do anything to 'win' her argument and think nothing of giving a low blow. She switches from being 'aggressive' to 'passive aggressive', whatever it takes for her to come out on top. Classic example being her aggressive shouting at Rebecca; but then when Rebecca pointed out Hannah's aggression, Hannah then switched to passive aggressive mode, eluding to her skin colour as the issue. This was passive aggression playing the victim/race card as a way of destroying her opponent. Race is a serious issue, Hannah knows this; yet she was perfectly happy to try and smear Rebecca with racism, just as she was perfectly happy to try and smear Ellie with assault. It's called playing dirty.

5. Hannah is morally inconsistent:

She has given these soapbox speeches, claiming to be all for unity, peace, love etc, highlighting the importance of seeing beyond appearances "before colour, I am Hannah" etc .... Yet she is quite happy to attack Tom for his appearance calling him 'extra small'. Can you imagine if Tom had attacked her appearance! You think she would be equally as happy to accept that kind of appearance-based insult from him?

Hannah and Deborah were defending each other on fight night, as you can expect from sisters who are so close. But they both lied. Hannah lied about the bruise/attack from Ellie 'punching' her. Deborah lied about her intimidating charge up the stairs at Ellie, later claiming she was 'heading for the exit'.

OK sisters, defend yourselves, I get that. But please OWN your actions. Don't try and weasel out of it. People may forgive your aggressive actions, it is BB after all, it always gets heated. BUT you have lost a lot of support now because of your lies.

Probably the best post of the week,

[bots]

well put Robodog

[Robodog]

Cheers forum buddies

Glad others on here can see sense!

[Withano]

She broke whatever it was glass/plastic whatever,and if it was the latter plastic takes some force to break,she's aggressive,at least have the bottle(excuse the pun) to admit it.

Neither of us are about to take part in a serious debate over what's more dangerous out of throwing glass across the room or throwing plastic towards ones own feet though. So.

I do half see the point. I think it's mostly lotan devotion / chanelle hatred though because they're not comparable in seriousness at all.

[Vicky.]

Hannah may well have a bruise on her face but its most likely to be caused by the elbow in the face by her sister (accidentally of course)

The little clip (that also looks accidental) by Ellie would noway have bruised her face.

[vesavius]

OF COURSE Hannah was lying. OF COURSE SHE WAS.

Here are many reasons why.

1. BB have multiple cameras. They see far more than any of us. They only show an edited amount on TV. No audience member can claim to see more than BB does.

2. BB simply cannot afford the risk of allowing a HM to physically attack another. If HMs are ejected for threatening violence, do you really think they would be allowed to stay having committed actual violence? Of course not.

3. Hannah has lied before:
After Lotan put the plastic mouse in her bed, her comeback was that 'she has a phobia of mice that gives her panic attacks'. If this were true then she would not have held the mouse up. If this were true then she would not have been so un-bothered when Raph put the same mouse near her later on. She lies tactically.

4. Hannah plays dirty in arguments:
Like the mouse incident, she will say or do anything to 'win' her argument and think nothing of giving a low blow. She switches from being 'aggressive' to 'passive aggressive', whatever it takes for her to come out on top. Classic example being her aggressive shouting at Rebecca; but then when Rebecca pointed out Hannah's aggression, Hannah then switched to passive aggressive mode, eluding to her skin colour as the issue. This was passive aggression playing the victim/race card as a way of destroying her opponent. Race is a serious issue, Hannah knows this; yet she was perfectly happy to try and smear Rebecca with racism, just as she was perfectly happy to try and smear Ellie with assault. It's called playing dirty.

5. Hannah is morally inconsistent:

She has given these soapbox speeches, claiming to be all for unity, peace, love etc, highlighting the importance of seeing beyond appearances "before colour, I am Hannah" etc .... Yet she is quite happy to attack Tom for his appearance calling him 'extra small'. Can you imagine if Tom had attacked her appearance! You think she would be equally as happy to accept that kind of appearance-based insult from him?

Hannah and Deborah were defending each other on fight night, as you can expect from sisters who are so close. But they both lied. Hannah lied about the bruise/attack from Ellie 'punching' her. Deborah lied about her intimidating charge up the stairs at Ellie, later claiming she was 'heading for the exit'.

OK sisters, defend yourselves, I get that. But please OWN your actions. Don't try and weasel out of it. People may forgive your aggressive actions, it is BB after all, it always gets heated. BUT you have lost a lot of support now because of your lies.

A good post.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

OF COURSE Hannah was lying. OF COURSE SHE WAS.

Here are many reasons why.

1. BB have multiple cameras. They see far more than any of us. They only show an edited amount on TV. No audience member can claim to see more than BB does.

2. BB simply cannot afford the risk of allowing a HM to physically attack another. If HMs are ejected for threatening violence, do you really think they would be allowed to stay having committed actual violence? Of course not.

3. Hannah has lied before:
After Lotan put the plastic mouse in her bed, her comeback was that 'she has a phobia of mice that gives her panic attacks'. If this were true then she would not have held the mouse up. If this were true then she would not have been so un-bothered when Raph put the same mouse near her later on. She lies tactically.

4. Hannah plays dirty in arguments:
Like the mouse incident, she will say or do anything to 'win' her argument and think nothing of giving a low blow. She switches from being 'aggressive' to 'passive aggressive', whatever it takes for her to come out on top. Classic example being her aggressive shouting at Rebecca; but then when Rebecca pointed out Hannah's aggression, Hannah then switched to passive aggressive mode, eluding to her skin colour as the issue. This was passive aggression playing the victim/race card as a way of destroying her opponent. Race is a serious issue, Hannah knows this; yet she was perfectly happy to try and smear Rebecca with racism, just as she was perfectly happy to try and smear Ellie with assault. It's called playing dirty.

5. Hannah is morally inconsistent:

She has given these soapbox speeches, claiming to be all for unity, peace, love etc, highlighting the importance of seeing beyond appearances "before colour, I am Hannah" etc .... Yet she is quite happy to attack Tom for his appearance calling him 'extra small'. Can you imagine if Tom had attacked her appearance! You think she would be equally as happy to accept that kind of appearance-based insult from him?

Hannah and Deborah were defending each other on fight night, as you can expect from sisters who are so close. But they both lied. Hannah lied about the bruise/attack from Ellie 'punching' her. Deborah lied about her intimidating charge up the stairs at Ellie, later claiming she was 'heading for the exit'.

OK sisters, defend yourselves, I get that. But please OWN your actions. Don't try and weasel out of it. People may forgive your aggressive actions, it is BB after all, it always gets heated. BUT you have lost a lot of support now because of your lies.

:clap1:

I think more on here are realising this and i have noted a distinct lack of support for either over the last week as the above dawns on people

[vesavius]

I think more on here are realising this and i have noted a distinct lack of support for either over the last week as the above dawns on people

I think you are right. As more people actually see BB make it clear that Deb was lying and aren't just being dragged along by the Twitter idiotverse I think opinions are changing.