TRUMP supporter Raph, how does that sit with you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

SO tonight Raph admits he is a trump supporter and helped get Donald Trump to the White house.

Now thinking back to all the Trump threads a lot of people said some very negative things about Trump supporters and voters.


So does this mean that many people on here now feel a little better about Trump supporters as Rahp is one, have you changed your mind or does the fact he is a Trump fan cloud your opinion of him a little?

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[Mullens123]

Doesn't change my view on him. Why would someone's political views unless extreme be a factor in disliking someone outside of politically related things?

[armand.kay]

I've never really judged trump supports tbh a lot of people I follow on youtube wanted him to win.

[armand.kay]

also I wouldn't call Raph a supporter if the only reason he voted trump was because Hillary was worse

[Time]

who cares.. it's his political view and he's entitled to it.

[Marsh.]

Never liked either of them.

[Withano]

Hilariously, he also said he thinks Brexit was an incredibly unintelligent decision!

Hes done well to spin it round, the right and the left should be mad at him haha for different reasons.

I dont personally care for housemates' political affiliations.. not sure if many others do.

[rionablue]

SO tonight Raph admits he is a trump supporter and helped get Donald Trump to the White house.

Now thinking back to all the Trump threads a lot of people said some very negative things about Trump supporters and voters.


So does this mean that many people on here now feel a little better about Trump supporters as Rahp is one, have you changed your mind or does the fact he is a Trump fan cloud your opinion of him a little?

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Nothing about Raph sits well with me. The biggest disappointment for me. I liked him on launch night and for the first week but then he showed his true colours so if he supported Donald fecking Trump or Duck wouldnt make any diff

[Epic.]

No. Housemates political views should not have any bearing whatsoever on how much I enjoy them

[Rob!]

Well you've done nothing but post vitriol about him and you were a Trump supporter, so do you like him now?

[Jack_]

There are many understandable reasons why people voted for Trump, just as they did to leave the EU and for why people continue to swallow the Tories bull****. I understand and sympathise with the reasoning, but just realise that these people/parties/decisions aren't the answer. And without wanting to get too political in this subforum, strangely enough all three can be be linked to one ideology.

More to the point, I don't really care about housemate's political opinions. I don't care about what they do outside the confines of a television set for that matter. I don't think it's relevant to the show at all. Hence why I liked Joel in BB16 despite him being a massive Tory

[Lostie!]

I think he's a little bitch, actually. An utter little rude little bitch.

[JerseyWins]

I don't judge people on their political views, whether on a TV show or not really, and I also don't blame a Trump voter when the other option was Hilary. This might've been the worst two options to vote for in history. :joker:

[sampvt]

On the one hand, One of them is a despicable **** and a threat to world peace with a condescending attitude that makes me puke, and the other has a weird hair do and owns hotels.

[Kazanne]

There are many understandable reasons why people voted for Trump, just as they did to leave the EU and for why people continue to swallow the Tories bull****. I understand and sympathise with the reasoning, but just realise that these people/parties/decisions aren't the answer. And without wanting to get too political in this subforum, strangely enough all three can be be linked to one ideology.

More to the point, I don't really care about housemate's political opinions. I don't care about what they do outside the confines of a television set for that matter. I don't think it's relevant to the show at all. Hence why I liked Joel in BB16 despite him being a massive Tory

And don't forget Labours :joker:

[Jack_]

And don't forget Labours :joker:

The current Labour Party's platform isn't neoliberal, Kazanne. So not quite, but nice try.

[Crimson Dynamo]

On the one hand, One of them is a despicable **** and a threat to world peace with a condescending attitude that makes me puke, and the other has a weird hair do and owns hotels.

:joker:

[thesheriff443]

Lt you are the Donald trump of Tibb.

[smudgie]

Surely you don't judge people going by their political leanings?:joker:
Some fantastic Labour voters as well as Tory voters on here alone, never mind the real world.

[Crimson Dynamo]

isobel Trump?

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[thesheriff443]

Blowing your own trump et

[sampvt]

Surely you don't judge people going by their political leanings?:joker:
Some fantastic Labour voters as well as Tory voters on here alone, never mind the real world.

Only if it serves a purpose.

[Greg!]

Um we knew this on launch night.

[arista]

not a problem

[Glenn-C]

Didn't his mum say he actually didn't? He probably said that so they'd put him in

[Brother Leon]

I don't judge people political views. If I did then most of the world are *****. Besides, the American Election was a joke with two of the worst and most corrupt candidates ever. I can't judge either fanbase as it was choosing between twats.

[pontyboi]

Look my gran has supported labour all her life, I have friends who love trump and friends who hate trump......let's not get started on Theresa May lol

The fact is I judge a person or housemate not on their political or religious beliefs but on how they are in the house.

Raph isn't perfect and what he said in his vt was probably an exxageration of his actual character to get in the house but I like the man and the way he acted on fight night gets a lot of praise from me.

[Littlegreen]

I had to defend Joel for weeks on end because he was a politician and now this with Raph... my favourites are always stressful.

But no, I don't judge on political stances. Everybody has an opinion and that should be respected.

[Alf]

Being a Trump supporter, probably means he's gonna win.

Trump supporters have been winning lots lately.

[storybrooke]

If he brought politics into the house then maybe we could judge him for it, but he hasn't so I am not going to love/hate him because of who he supports politically

[vesavius]

If he brought politics into the house then maybe we could judge him for it, but he hasn't so I am not going to love/hate him because of who he supports politically

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

[vesavius]

Being a Trump supporter, probably means he's gonna win.

Trump supporters have been winning lots lately.

But, weirdly, not by popular vote.

[JTM45]

Being a Trump supporter, probably means he's gonna win.

Trump supporters have been winning lots lately.

I must have missed that.:shrug:

I was more interested watching Trump scramble in relation to news that tapes of his people colluding with Russia are about to emerge. Probably got something to do with the fact that some of those being investigated have been doing deals with the Feds to sell Trump out.:laugh:

[pontyboi]

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

Look im in no way standing up for Trump I think he's a moron and yet another reality TV star or movie star to become president or the mayor of California.

We all know people say controversial things to get in the house and Raph being one of us and knowing exactly how to play producers hopped on the Trump bandwagon which was at the time he auditioned a huge talking point....obviously he had to carry that onto his vt but I think that was all a front.

He's a decent guy imo.

[vesavius]

Look im in no way standing up for Trump I think he's a moron... but I think (Raph) that was all a front.


Sounds like you are excusing an expressed political belief in order to support a HM.

I mean, I ask again, if a HM that you didn't know wore a swastika in his VT, would you out it down to front and rationalise it? Does a HMs politics matter or not?

Who we support speaks volumes about who we are and what we stand for, especially expressing that support on TV.

[Marsh.]

Swastika? That counts as a Hitler mention right?

You lose Vesavius! You lose!

[joeysteele]

There are many understandable reasons why people voted for Trump, just as they did to leave the EU and for why people continue to swallow the Tories bull****. I understand and sympathise with the reasoning, but just realise that these people/parties/decisions aren't the answer. And without wanting to get too political in this subforum, strangely enough all three can be be linked to one ideology.

More to the point, I don't really care about housemate's political opinions. I don't care about what they do outside the confines of a television set for that matter. I don't think it's relevant to the show at all. Hence why I liked Joel in BB16 despite him being a massive Tory

Good post again.

I too supported Joel.

I was a Clinton supporter but hey,I know Raph on here,have chatted lots in threads,PMs and visitor messages.
I know Raph is a great guy.

Why on earth because he likes Trump should that be a reason to dislike him.
It gets more and more desperate every day as to anti Raph threads.

[pontyboi]

Sounds like you are excusing an expressed political belief in order to support a HM.

I mean, I ask again, if a HM that you didn't know wore a swastika in his VT, would you out it down to front and rationalise it? Does a HMs politics matter or not?

Who we support speaks volumes about who we are and what we stand for, especially expressing that support on TV.

My god lol! You lost this at Swastika. Trying to be controversial won't win over a level headed (handsome) forum member ;)

Can I also just say I don't "support" anyone for me BB changes day to day and I judge from what I see. I'm not some teeny bopper pushing my fan beliefs on others for gods sakes im 32 years old!

All jokes aside like I said I judge housemates on their behaviour in the house. I don't behave like the tabloids and drag up **** they said before entering because I'm wiser than that and as a BB fan so should you be. We all know every single person put on a persona to get in the house that is FACT.

[YourLAEx]

It was either Trump or Hilary, it's like choosing vagina or tits, both terrible choices

[pontyboi]

It was either Trump or Hilary, it's like choosing vagina or tits, both terrible choices

:worship:

[vesavius]

My god lol! You lost this at Swastika. Trying to be controversial won't...

It was a serious question, one you are desperately deflecting with this reply.

Will you answer it, or dodge and deflect more?

If someone wore a swastika in their VT but didn't mention it in the house, would you be ok with that? Would you support them?

[Novo]

The Alt Right all voting in their numbers and hijacking the liberal vote for Chanelle in the final

[pontyboi]

It was a serious question, one you are desperately deflecting with this reply.

Will you answer it, or dodge and deflect more?

If someone wore a swastika in their VT but didn't mention it in the house, would you be ok with that? Would you support them?

And yet again you take a small portion of a detailed answer I give you and turn it into what you meant to say which is "would you support a Hitler supporter" ...ofcourse not....nobody would. are you actually living in the 1940's?

You lost this debate as soon as you mentioned that. Trumps an anus but hasn't massacred millions of Jews.

Are you actually being serious? Lol....I answered your question and I judge from the actions I see in the house. I have watched this show from 2000 and know housemates say controversial things to get in the house BUT you're taking it to far by comparing an apparent Trump supporter and comparing him to a Nazi.

Reaching....just like S Club 7 did back in the day.

I don't allways agree with Raphs actions but overall he's one of the nicest housemates in there.

[vesavius]

Are you actually being serious? Lol... I judge from the actions I see in the house

Yes.

So, you would support a self professed nazi white supremest, as long as they didn't mention it in the house. Interesting.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't agree with Raph on Trump, but he still comes across as a nice guy.

[Mystic Mock]

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

That's a bit different.:joker:

[vesavius]

That's a bit different.

Is it? How?

I use it as an example of a political belief. The question is does the political leanings of a HM outside the house matter when they are in there if they don't mention it inside.

Why does it matter what those leanings are, once they are inside?

[pontyboi]

Yes.

So, you would support a self professed nazi white supremest, as long as they didn't mention it in the house. Interesting.

I already answered that question saying NOONE would support a Nazi lol.

Stop cherry picking my posts and taking out of context to suit your own posts as a pathetic attempt to change people's minds.....you're the one acting like Hitler.

I'm done with this conversation with you seeing as I have the ability to be fair and see both sides whilst posting in depth replies yet you can only post replies like "do you support nazis?" Lol

Pathetic.

[Mystic Mock]

Is it? How?

I use it as an example of a political belief. The question is does the political leanings of a HM outside the house matter when they are in there if they don't mention it inside.

Why does it matter what those leanings are, once they are inside?

If Raph said that he supported Hitler massacring millions of Jewish people, and caused a World War because he was a dictator then I wouldn't support Raph.

[vesavius]

I already answered that question saying NOONE would support a Nazi lol.


But that directly contradicts your other statement that you only only judge them on what they do inside the house.

Do you not see that?

It's one or the other.

Pathetic.

Please don't make personal attacks. I have seen you do that a lot today. Please keep it to conversation about the HMs.

[Alf]

Why wouldn't he support Trump?

Trump is the most pro LGBT President ever.


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[vesavius]

If Raph said that he supported Hitler massacring millions of Jewish people, and caused a World War because he was a dictator then I wouldn't support Raph.

I can accept that. it's not you that has contradicted yourself yet here. It's Ponty.

[Jian Yang]

US politics doesn't really effect me, Hilary is no less dodgy than Trump in any case, so whatever!

[pontyboi]

US politics doesn't really effect me, Hilary is no less dodgy than Trump in any case, so whatever!

US politics affect the whole world.

[Jian Yang]

US politics affect the whole world.

It's doesn't really affect me.

[Mystic Mock]

I can accept that. it's not you that has contradicted yourself yet here. It's Ponty.

Tbf hasn't Ponty said the same stuff that I've said?

I can't remember all of the posts on here so I'm interested.

[pontyboi]

It's doesn't really affect me.

So if the U.S. nuke the east and the UK goes to war with them that doesn't affect you?

Politicians are morons and it affects all of us. Sorry.

[storybrooke]

You don't think that tells you a lot about who they are?

If he wore a swastika in his VT, but then never mentioned it in the house... That would be ok to you?

Yeah I suppose you can learn something from it, but political beliefs don't define an entire personality in my opinion.

But no I wouldn't support him in the house if he wore a swastika.

[pontyboi]

Tbf hasn't Ponty said the same stuff that I've said?

I can't remember all of the posts on here so I'm interested.

Yeah we've both agreed on this topic tbf.

[Vanessa]

This is nothing new. We know this from his VT. I like Trump personally. But to each his own.

[Jian Yang]

So if the U.S. nuke the east and the UK goes to war with them that doesn't affect you?

Politicians are morons and it affects all of us. Sorry.

No don't be sorry. Until that happens, if it even happens, US politics doesn't play a major role in everyone's day to day lives in the UK. We have enough to contend with here politically, lets not worry too much about the US political landscape just yet.

[vesavius]

Tbf hasn't Ponty said the same stuff that I've said?

I can't remember all of the posts on here so I'm interested.

No, he has stated clearly that he does not judge HMs for their political leanings outside the house, only that which they do inside.

Then he has gone on to say that he wouldn't support a Nazi in there.

I am questioning his contradiction. Because there clearly is one.

(I never mentioned Hitler, BTW. I was referring to modern white supremacists, Modern Nazis. The Hitler thing is him.)

[vesavius]

Yeah we've both agreed on this topic tbf.

No. Mystic hasn't been contradictory yet.

[vesavius]

Yeah I suppose you can learn something from it, but political beliefs don't define an entire personality in my opinion.

But no I wouldn't support him in the house if he wore a swastika.

That's fine. I can accept that as a PoV.

[pontyboi]

No don't be sorry. Until that happens, if it even happens, US politics doesn't play a major role in everyone's day to day lives in the UK. We have enough to contend with here politically, lets not worry too much about the US political landscape just yet.

Unfortunately it's not that simple as the UK and the US continue to have a "special bond" US politics do directly affect us which sucks. I'm totally against it but it's just something we need to prepare for and not just chill out and be caught off guard when Trump takes a step to far and causes world war 3.

It's an actual real possibility.

[vesavius]

...when Trump takes a step to far and causes world war 3.

It's an actual real possibility.

But, let's get behind those that use a public platform like BB to endorse Trump?

[Jian Yang]

Unfortunately it's not that simple as the UK and the US continue to have a "special bond" US politics do directly affect us which sucks. I'm totally against it but it's just something we need to prepare for and not just chill out and be caught off guard when Trump takes a step to far and causes world war 3.

It's an actual real possibility.

Trump will not cause WW3. Big business, the real leaders of the free world will never allow it. Politics is a business, run and funded by other businesses. Trump is a businessman who just happens to be President. His word isn't as strong as we're lead to believe.

Anyway, we're going way off topic here. Raph voting for Trump isn't the end of the world, literally.

[pontyboi]

But, let's get behind those that use a public platform like BB to endorse Trump?


I haven't said Ive got behind him to support Trump and he hasn't mentioned him once in the last 3 weeks....it was all for his vt.

Can you stop paraphrasing my posts and actually have a proper conversation?

Ive said in all my posts im not a fan of Trump and have no favourite housemates.

I judge the house day by day, I'm not some sad fan of a housemate who in a fans eyes can do no wrong. Like I said I judge housemates ONLY on their behaviour in the house and so far Raph has not been offensive or degrading or sexist which I agree is strange considering who he supports pollitically BUT that was all said to get him into th house and it's worked so good for him.

I really can't be arsed for arguments so stop cherry picking my comments and if you have a valid point to make post a detailed response and not these snide remarks and atrocious comparisons to Nazis.

[vesavius]

Stop pulling that "please stop attacking me" nonsense there's other people in this thread who have called you out on the exact same points.


Then stop making personal attacks please. I will stop when you do. The difference is others haven't made personal attacks, just stated an opinion, which is fine. You have made a ton of personal attack posts today.

[pontyboi]

Trump will not cause WW3. Big business, the real leaders of the free world will never allow it. Politics is a business, run and funded by other businesses. Trump is a businessman who just happens to be President. His word isn't as strong as we're lead to believe.

Anyway, we're going way off topic here. Raph voting for Trump isn't the end of the world, literally.

Can't we all just get along? Lol......seeing as it's peace and love in the BB house at the moment.

[Jian Yang]

Can't we all just get along? Lol......seeing as it's peace and love in the BB house at the moment.

:p

[vesavius]

I haven't s the n him support Trump once in the last 3 weeks....it was all for his vt.

Yes, indeed. You are supporting a HM that used his VT as a platform to endorse Trump.

But your contradictions are not cherry picked, they are actually what you have said.

I am just interested in looking at them honestly.

[Ant.]

I love democracy and freedom of speech

[vesavius]

I love democracy and freedom of speech

As do I. i haven't actually expressed a political opinion myself in this, I am just interested in how the fans of Raph are reconciling an apparent dislike of Trump with supporting a guy that used TV to endorse Trump.

[pontyboi]

Yes, indeed. You are supporting a HM that used his VT as a platform to endorse Trump.

But your contradictions are not cherry picked, they are actually what you have said.

I am just interested in looking at them honestly.

AGAIN....I will reiterate seeing as you seem to scan my posts.

I have said I HAVE NO FAVOURITE AND JUDGE THE HOUSE DAY BY DAY.

Seriously when are you going to give this up? I think I'm pretty fair when it comes to every housemate. I call it as I see it each episode and never get behind one housemate.....you won't find a thread spewing love over any housemate from me as it changes so quickly with each show.

[vesavius]

I think I'm pretty fair when it comes to every housemate.

Your self proclaimed fairness isn't what's being discussed here. Your evident contradiction is though. I am not attacking you as a person, you seem a decent guy in genral, you seem aware of the world situation. I think that's what surprised me about the free pass you are giving to a Trump supporter, when you seem to think Trump is dangerous (by your comments here).

I just think that contradiction is interesting.

[pontyboi]

Your self proclaimed fairness isn't what's being discussed here. Your evident contradiction is though. I am not attacking you as a person, you seem a decent guy in genral, you seem aware of the world situation. I think that's what surprised me about the free pass you are giving to a Trump supporter, when you seem to think Trump is dangerous (by your comments here).

I just think that contradiction is interesting.

Dude....bore off.

[vesavius]

Dude....bore off.



:joker::joker::joker:

[Vicky.]

Fairly sure he only made a point of that in his VT to appear controversial.

I don't really judge people on their political leanings, and as horrendous as Trump is, Hilary was no angel either. Bernie ftw :(

[pontyboi]

Fairly sure he only made a point of that in his VT to appear controversial.

I don't really judge people on their political leanings, and as horrendous as Trump is, Hilary was no angel either. Bernie ftw :(

Agree with you 100% that's the point I obviously couldn't make lol.

I dislike all political candidates but if a housemate likes their values that's their choice. Obviously if they liked nazis it would be a different story lol but that's just over the top.

I like to watch the show with every housemate given a clean slate and NEVER expect them to be like their vt's as we all know that's all to get on the show.

[vesavius]

I like to watch the show with every housemate given a clean slate and NEVER expect them to be like their vt's.

So, a self proclaimed Nazi in a VT *would* be ok?? As long as they didn't say it in the house?

Man, you have me sooo confused.

[vesavius]

as horrendous as Trump is, Hilary was no angel either.

fully agree.

[Kazanne]

Leave the moth alone they better not kill it

[pontyboi]

So, a self proclaimed Nazi in a VT *would* be ok?? As long as they didn't say it in the house?

Man, you have me sooo confused.

Again ive said on numerous posts in this thread I would never support a housemate who was a Nazi....but NOONE HAS CLAIMED TO BE A NAZI?

How am I contradicting myself when ive allways said I only judge housemates behaviour from inside the house and don't favour any housemate as the story produced by big brother changes day by day.

Keep reaching this is the most pathetic debate ive ever had on here.....please someone back me up.

[Beso]

Im voting hilary.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well iv seen some excuses for voting but that mess was one of the worst

[Ant.]

Well iv seen some excuses for voting but that mess was one of the worst

Hm and here's me believing people voting for Hilary because she was a woman was bad

[Jack_]

Well iv seen some excuses for voting but that mess was one of the worst

But...but...you like Trump?

Liking Trump and describing his justification as an 'excuse' is very peculiar

[Heaven = Winner]

I'll try and find the source but I definitely remember a tweet being posted where Raph liked a lot of democratic social media posts on his Twitter feed, and not so many republican posts.

[Oliver_W]

If people are gonna whinge about Trump supporters, they'll need to whinge about half of the USA. So he voted Trump, who cares? The other choice was Hillary, there were no good people to choose from.

[StephenPullen]

Who cares? Doesn't reflect on him as a person, Trump is doing a good job so far. I'd be more upset if he was a Jeremy Corbyn supporter.

[letmein]

Fairly sure he only made a point of that in his VT to appear controversial.

I don't really judge people on their political leanings, and as horrendous as Trump is, Hilary was no angel either. Bernie ftw :(

Bernie, the bank fraudster currently under FBI investigation who couldn't answer a single foreign policy question. :laugh:

[letmein]

Who cares? Doesn't reflect on him as a person, Trump is doing a good job so far. I'd be more upset if he was a Jeremy Corbyn supporter.

#AlternativeFacts

[letmein]

If people are gonna whinge about Trump supporters, they'll need to whinge about half of the USA. So he voted Trump, who cares? The other choice was Hillary, there were no good people to choose from.

Half of the US didn't vote for Trump and the majority of voters voted for Clinton.

[LukeB]

Leave the moth alone they better not kill it

Donald Moth

[Nicky91]

Raphie can have his own opinion, if he likes Trump i'm cool with it



but Charlotte heading in the Kanye west joke :laugh2:

[Vanessa]

Raphie can have his own opinion, if he likes Trump i'm cool with it



but Charlotte heading in the Kanye west joke :laugh2:

I like Trump. He's definitely better than Hillary Clinton, who is corrupt as hell. Kanye West for President :facepalm:::laugh2:

[JTM45]

I like Trump. He's definitely better than Hillary Clinton, who is corrupt as hell. Kanye West for President :facepalm:::laugh2:

Are you kidding Vanessa ??!
I know Hilary's no saint but she sure looks like Mother Theresa next to Trump!!! He's one of the most corrupt men in America!!! He sold the US out for Russian cash (and because they have incriminating & embarassing dirt on him). That's besides the money laundering he got fined $10 million for and so on, etc. etc.. ..........oh, and there's the sexual assaults.

You were kidding.........right ? :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Are you kidding Vanessa ??!
I know Hilary's no saint but she sure looks like Mother Theresa next to Trump!!! He's one of the most corrupt men in America!!! He sold the US out for Russian cash (and because they have incriminating & embarassing dirt on him). That's besides the money laundering he got fined $10 million for and so on, etc. etc.. ..........oh, and there's the sexual assaults.

You were kidding.........right ? :laugh:
I don't trust Hillary Clinton at all. Anyone us better than her in my book.

[Nicky91]

I like Trump. He's definitely better than Hillary Clinton, who is corrupt as hell. Kanye West for President :facepalm:::laugh2:

it was a joke from Charlotte i think :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Half of the US didn't vote for Trump and the majority of voters voted for Clinton.

Raph voted for him and helped him into the white house

Raph is making America great again

:hee:

[Niamh.]

Well I wouldn't dislike a person because of who they vote for, if that were the case I'd be halfing my real life friends/family members :laugh:

[JTM45]

I find it rather bothersome that you can vote for an election of a Country that you don't live in.
As far as i'm aware Raph hasn't lived in the US for some time and with him being in University over here i can't see that he'd be moving back over there any time either. I've no doubt that you probably can vote for any Country that you are a legal citizen of but it doesn't sound very cool if you're not gonna' live there.

I also don't think it's right that people in prison can't vote.

That said though, Raph is an International Man of Mystery so maybe he resides in the US on his weekends off.

Nevermind. He'll have a hypothetical 'Get out of Jail Free Card' when Trump is removed from office and jailed (where he won't even be able to vote!). It'll be a blessing for Raph.
Won't be too much longer now being as at least three of Trump's campaign team have had spent many hours working with the FBI over the last week or so and only yesterday the US Treasury Department finally gave in and handed over thousands of pages detailing all of Trumps financial irregularities and dodgy dealings to the Senate Intelligence Committee who are investigating Trump and his cronies! Once they've put the mountain of assorted evidence they've now accumulated in good order they can put the proper wheels of Justice in motion and get the corrupt bastard out of the White House and into an orange jumpsuit...............if he doesn't run first and shack-up with one of his many despotic dictator chums he has throught the Globe. Slap him with a travel ban right now i say...............avoid any chance of him slithering out of the country. Nixon will look like a first time shoplifter compared to this fellonous cretin!!!! I'll stock up on Popcorn right away.:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Hilariously, he also said he thinks Brexit was an incredibly unintelligent decision!

Hes done well to spin it round, the right and the left should be mad at him haha for different reasons.

I dont personally care for housemates' political affiliations.. not sure if many others do.

He's like me with UK politics.....Confused

[Vicky.]

Who cares? Doesn't reflect on him as a person, Trump is doing a good job so far. I'd be more upset if he was a Jeremy Corbyn supporter.

From the sounds of last night, he is both a Turmp supporter and a Corbyn supporter :hehe:

[MrWong]

Are you kidding Vanessa ??!
I know Hilary's no saint but she sure looks like Mother Theresa next to Trump!!! He's one of the most corrupt men in America!!! He sold the US out for Russian cash (and because they have incriminating & embarassing dirt on him). That's besides the money laundering he got fined $10 million for and so on, etc. etc.. ..........oh, and there's the sexual assaults.

You were kidding.........right ? :laugh:

Well said. The 'Oh they're both as bad as each other' comparison is infuriating.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder is he is a big NRA supporter as well, I expect he is

[Robodog]

I don't judge people on their political views, whether on a TV show or not really, and I also don't blame a Trump voter when the other option was Hilary. This might've been the worst two options to vote for in history. :joker:

Spot on.

As Julian Assange said: "Choosing Between Trump or Clinton is Like Picking Between Cholera or Gonorrhea"