i'm sorry... i just don't get raph's popularity

[TomC]

i am sorry to all the people who love him on here, but I just can't warm to him.

it comes between the awkward fake laugh, the annoying diary room entries and the whispering. oh, and he's simply pretty boring :worry:

does anyone get where i'm coming from? i just feel perplexed

[Vanessa]

He's a nice genuine guy. Also quite fun when we get to see him. I like him a lot! :hee:

[TomC]

it also annoyed me when he said how sad he found the divide, when he was the one who constantly reinforced it to the sisters and public

[Vanessa]

Even Kieran was talking about the divide. So it's not just Raph. Othera also talk about it.

[Niamh.]

it also annoyed me when he said how sad he found the divide, when he was the one who constantly reinforced it to the sisters and public
Master game player, create the divide and then be the hero by uniting them. Genius.

[Vanessa]

Master game player, create the divide and then be the hero by uniting them. Genius.

This, but he's nice as well and he's having fun.

[TomC]

Master game player, create the divide and then be the hero by uniting them. Genius.

that's all very well but it doesn't make me want to vote to give him £100,000!

[Vanessa]

The constant talk about sex is getting boring for me. I like that Raph doesn't do that.

[Niamh.]

that's all very well but it doesn't make me want to vote to give him £100,000!
Makes me want to give £100,001 tbh!

[Shaun]

That's fair. I can get why his awkwardness isn't 100% endearing. I'd be lying if I said I'd never had a problem with him lol but he's a nice guy and I'd rather nice guys won.

[Vanessa]

That's fair. I can get why his awkwardness isn't 100% endearing. I'd be lying if I said I'd never had a problem with him lol but he's a nice guy and I'd rather nice guys won.

He's so sweet, I think it's endearing :love::love:

[Vanessa]

Omfg the panel was loving Raph. John wants him to win! :dance:

[rusticgal]

it also annoyed me when he said how sad he found the divide, when he was the one who constantly reinforced it to the sisters and public


Didn't he create The Outsiders...he encouraged it more than anyone :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

i am sorry to all the people who love him on here, but I just can't warm to him.

it comes between the awkward fake laugh, the annoying diary room entries and the whispering. oh, and he's simply pretty boring :worry:

does anyone get where i'm coming from? i just feel perplexed

Tbf Raph is awkward on here, nice but awkward.

And just because he isn't doing all of the TOWIE routines doesn't make him boring imo.

Ch5 always do this type of thing to the Raph's of the show.

[T*]

AT the start I really didn't like him but I started warming to him and warming to him and now chanelle and him are my top 2, I like him because he's actually normal

[Jordan.]

I like him but him not being there would have little impact

[chuff me dizzy]

He's done nothing, he will be remembered as the little creep who told tales ,hardly BB royalty

[Vanessa]

Raph to win :hugesmile:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I note that the fandom for him has fallen off a cliff on Tibb as the initial "omg he is on tib and he is gay" thing (not that a being gay or on tibb is bad) has worn off and people get to see the real him (pretty dull, in awe of a strong women, no real interest in talking to anyone else). His nervous laugh and non-Britishness leave many feeling unrelatable to him.

I am sure he is a nice guy but he is hardly Brian Dowling or Cameron Stout.

[bots]

i am sorry to all the people who love him on here, but I just can't warm to him.

it comes between the awkward fake laugh, the annoying diary room entries and the whispering. oh, and he's simply pretty boring :worry:

does anyone get where i'm coming from? i just feel perplexed

you are not alone, completely agree

[Gusto Brunt]

i am sorry to all the people who love him on here, but I just can't warm to him.

it comes between the awkward fake laugh, the annoying diary room entries and the whispering. oh, and he's simply pretty boring :worry:

does anyone get where i'm coming from? i just feel perplexed

I agree. :)

[Vanessa]

I like him, because he's being himself. He's playing the game, but at the same time he's a nice guy and also he's having fun in there. Plus I find him adorable. The way he goes all shy when sex is mentioned is endearing to me.

[andybigbro]

A lot of his popularity is due to him being a member in here. It's natural and expected for his forum friends to support him.
On top of this, I think he is doing a great job, is a genuinely nice guy, and he's living his dream being on BB and it's really refreshing seeing someone normal on the show.

I wish him all the best, and I'll continue to support him. I hope he wins. I've put a bet on and I'd like to win

#TeamRaph :hee:

[Vanessa]

A lot of his popularity is due to him being a member in here. It's natural and expected for his forum friends to support him.
On top of this, I think he is doing a great job, is a genuinely nice guy, and he's living his dream being on BB and it's really refreshing seeing someone normal on the show.

I wish him all the best, and I'll continue to support him. I hope he wins. I've put a bet on and I'd like to win

#TeamRaph :hee:

He hasn't got a bad bone in his body :love:

[Babayaro.]

I note that the fandom for him has fallen off a cliff on Tibb as the initial "omg he is on tib and he is gay" thing (not that a being gay or on tibb is bad) has worn off and people get to see the real him (pretty dull, in awe of a strong women, no real interest in talking to anyone else). His nervous laugh and non-Britishness leave many feeling unrelatable to him.

I am sure he is a nice guy but he is hardly Brian Dowling or Cameron Stout.

Good ****ing job he isn't!

[Ashley.]

I think a lot of it is because he was on here. I'm not saying that's the pure reason, but he isn't the type of housemate that's usually liked on here so I think him being from the forum allowed people to give him more of a chance instead of instantly and stubbornly taking a dislike to him, as they usually would.

[Nicky91]

I think a lot of it is because he was on here. I'm not saying that's the pure reason, but he isn't the type of housemate that's usually liked on here so I think him being from the forum allowed people to give him more of a chance instead of instantly and stubbornly taking a dislike to him, as they usually would.

exactly this i agree with, i really like seeing one of my friends in the BB house :D

[Littlegreen]

I think he's a breath of fresh air in that house. Not obsessed with sex and hardly ever swears... maybe that's why he gets labelled "shifty" because he isn't the norm?

[TomC]

I think a lot of it is because he was on here. I'm not saying that's the pure reason, but he isn't the type of housemate that's usually liked on here so I think him being from the forum allowed people to give him more of a chance instead of instantly and stubbornly taking a dislike to him, as they usually would.

I agree. I really think he would be pretty unpopular here if he wasn't a member.

[Vanessa]

I think he's a breath of fresh air in that house. Not obsessed with sex and hardly ever swears... maybe that's why he gets labelled "shifty" because he isn't the norm?

Yes. We're just not used in seeing normal people as housemates anymore.

[joeysteele]

Makes me want to give £100,001 tbh!

Ditto for me.

[Vanessa]

Ditto for me.

If he wins he needs to take us all fans to dinner ;)

[Black Dagger]

That's fair. I can get why his awkwardness isn't 100% endearing. I'd be lying if I said I'd never had a problem with him lol but he's a nice guy and I'd rather nice guys won.

This

[Black Dagger]

I note that the fandom for him has fallen off a cliff on Tibb as the initial "omg he is on tib and he is gay" thing (not that a being gay or on tibb is bad) has worn off and people get to see the real him (pretty dull, in awe of a strong women, no real interest in talking to anyone else). His nervous laugh and non-Britishness leave many feeling unrelatable to him.

I am sure he is a nice guy but he is hardly Brian Dowling or Cameron Stout.

Are you really ****ing bigging up Cameron Stout of all people.

[fitz2k2]

anytime one of his close friends does something stupid he gives off an awkward laugh.first someone that says he hates people bitching and people talk about sex.he hangs with chanelle who talks about sex daily and bitches to

[Vanessa]

anytime one of his close friends does something stupid he gives off an awkward laugh.first someone that says he hates people bitching and people talk about sex.he hangs with chanelle who talks about sex daily and bitches to

He's close to Chanelle because she actually bothered to get to know him. Tom slagged him off to the others at the beginning because of his VT. Causing him to feel isolated at times..

[joeysteele]

I think he's a breath of fresh air in that house. Not obsessed with sex and hardly ever swears... maybe that's why he gets labelled "shifty" because he isn't the norm?

Excellent points,well said.

[Jason.]

I like him, he's perfectly fine. However, he's probably the weakest Exile for me from an entertainment standpoint. Like I feel he's a bit overpraised when he's easily top 5, but not top 2 worthy.

[Vanessa]

I like him, he's perfectly fine. However, he's probably the weakest Exile for me from an entertainment standpoint. Like I feel he's a bit overpraised when he's easily top 5, but not top 2 worthy.

In a house full of show offs he's the most normal and I love that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you really ****ing bigging up Cameron Stout of all people.

The Stoutmeister is the best ever winner of BB:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

In a house full of show offs he's the most normal and I love that.

Normal?

waving his hands around, laughing in a shifty way, fake smiles and saying one thing doing another. He is the LEAST normal one in there

[joeysteele]

In a house full of show offs he's the most normal and I love that.

He's also genuine Vanessa.
I agree with you he doesn't need to show off,his qualities are what endear people to him.

[Vanessa]

He's also genuine Vanessa.
I agree with you he doesn't need to show off,his qualities are what endear people to him.

Yes, he's being himself and I like that. Can't wait for him to meet Sue. She loves him :D

[Crimson Dynamo]

Simone will hate him

she will shake up his shifty ways

:joker:

[vesavius]

Yes, he's being himself and I like that.

If this is truly himself, I would imagine that his RL friends have to watch themselves around him. He is inherently untrustworthy.

I mean, we have seen him deliberately set up his 'friends' in there with and slink off when the fight starts.

Not someone I would trust as a friend. he has no qualities that I would look for in a friend, tbf. Even Chan just used him when the cool kids weren't interested. She is all over Isobelle now she has an option.

[Littlegreen]

Normal?

waving his hands around, laughing in a shifty way, fake smiles and saying one thing doing another. He is the LEAST normal one in there

:facepalm:

He has openly admitted to being wary of people, so his behaviour is probably due to anxiety.

[Vanessa]

:facepalm:

He has openly admitted to being wary of people, so his behaviour is probably due to anxiety.

This! But he's opening up more now. He has made friends and he's having fun.

[chuff me dizzy]

Raph would not be popular if he wasn't a member on here, i judge people on what they are like in the house, not for a vote in most loved ,everyone should have judged him in the same way ,but they haven't

[Jack_]

Raph would not be popular if he wasn't a member on here, i judge people on what they are like in the house, not for a vote in most loved ,everyone should have judged him in the same way ,but they haven't

You can honestly say that if one of your friends went in the house, you wouldn't be supporting them regardless?

I do agree that most of his support stems from him being a member and have conceded on several occasions myself that I've only given him a pass because of it (although recently he's gone up in my estimations on his own terms), but it's completely understandable that his friends would support him. He isn't my favourite, but I do get why those who are closer to him will support him regardless.

[rph]

I didnt know raph untill the cast release - still would want him to win

[vesavius]

You can honestly say that if one of your friends went in the house, you wouldn't be supporting them regardless?

Yes.

I prefer to think that I could be at least a little honest and at least 1% objective about how they were doing.

[Vanessa]

I wasn't close to him in here, but I still felt drawn to him. He's just so sweet and endearing. Also shy, which I love in a guy.

[Locke.]

He's popular on other websites as well though, so it's not just because he posts on here. In fact throughout the series he's probably had less % of the favourite poll on this website as he has on the others.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes.

I prefer to think that I could be at least a little honest and at least 1% objective about how they were doing.

So would I ,I would never lie about someone being nice and a good hm8 no matter who it was, never mind another anonymous person from an online forum.......His every flaw would be picked over and hated on here if he wasn't a member

[Vanessa]

He's popular on other websites as well though, so it's not just because he posts on here. In fact throughout the series he's probably had less % of the favourite poll on this website as he has on the others.

Judging by Sue and her daughter reaction I think most people find him very sweet.

[chuff me dizzy]

Normal?

waving his hands around, laughing in a shifty way, fake smiles and saying one thing doing another. He is the LEAST normal one in there

:clap1: Biggest fake in there as he has a house face and a diary room face

[vesavius]

So would I ,I would never lie about someone being nice and a good hm8 no matter who it was, never mind another anonymous person from an online forum.......His every flaw would be picked over and hated on here if he wasn't a member




:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Black Dagger]

The Stoutmeister is the best ever winner of BB:nono:

Homophobic bore. I will pass.