Game Request: TiBB The Apprentice

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

I have asked James about this, but just to make other mods clear, I am planning on making my own new project, an experiment which hopefully will go well this time because this is new, innovative and educational.
TiBB The Apprentice will (if it is allowed) feature 10 candidates (5 female FMs and 5 male FMs), living in an estate for up to 9 weeks (Friday 6th July to Friday 7th September), with many tasks, twists and turns that they will face. For the first week, me, and some others who would like to volunteer as judges, will see how the 10 people are capable of, and in Week 2, I will start firing people, with the help of the public.
The team that makes the least profit from their product (which will be submitted publicly using paint), will lose. Then, that team will face the public vote, except for the Project Manager who automatically goes into the Boardroom. The 2 people with the most votes will go into the Boardroom, I will choose who gets fired. And, every day at 10.00pm, I will post highlights in the Discussion thread.
Hopefully, auditions will start on 25th May, ending on 8th June. So, please can it be allowed?

[Mrluvaluva]

How are they going to "sell" their product on here?

[~Kizwiz~]

Isnt this similar to TiBB BB..... but with a different slant????

[GiRTh]

Yes Kiz. I'd like to know how it's going to work.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Yes Kiz. I'd like to know how it's going to work.

Other FMs, who are not candidates, are going to be the buyers, and must decide, looking at the products and what they are for, which one they should buy.
The candidates should work out how much they should sell their products, and try to get the most profit.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by kizwiz
Isnt this similar to TiBB BB..... but with a different slant????

Big Brother is nothing like The Apprentice. But I want you, the public, to have more interaction. Actually, I have decided to keep to the simple layout.

[~Kizwiz~]

Ohh I get you now.... it does sound interesting :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*
Originally posted by GiRTh
Yes Kiz. I'd like to know how it's going to work.

Other FMs, who are not candidates, are going to be the buyers, and must decide, looking at the products and what they are for, which one they should buy.
The candidates should work out how much they should sell their products, and try to get the most profit.


can the public negotiate?

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*
Originally posted by GiRTh
Yes Kiz. I'd like to know how it's going to work.

Other FMs, who are not candidates, are going to be the buyers, and must decide, looking at the products and what they are for, which one they should buy.
The candidates should work out how much they should sell their products, and try to get the most profit.


can the public negotiate?

Yes. Plus, some of you can be clients.

[Red Moon]

So unlike virtual big brother we all get to take part if we want to?

[MarkWaldorf]

Hmmm, sounds like a really good idea. BUT it seems like it'll be hard to do.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Red Moon
So unlike virtual big brother we all get to take part if we want to?

Well, the 10 candidates take part in the main activities. But other FMs can be members of the public, buying the products from either team.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*

Yes. Plus, some of you can be clients.


Sounds a bit naughty (lol). But if you are part of it, you can post on other threads right. Sounds good. I'd like to get involved.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Markus™
Hmmm, sounds like a really good idea. BUT it seems like it'll be hard to do.

It is going to be quite hard, but creativity and imagination will help. :thumbs:

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*

Yes. Plus, some of you can be clients.


Sounds a bit naughty (lol). But if you are part of it, you can post on other threads right. Sounds good. I'd like to get involved.

I'll sort out where people can buy the items. But thanks anyway.

[~Kizwiz~]

That sounds like fun because there is lots of members who can join in

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*
Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*

Yes. Plus, some of you can be clients.


Sounds a bit naughty (lol). But if you are part of it, you can post on other threads right. Sounds good. I'd like to get involved.

I'll sort out where people can buy the items. But thanks anyway.


As a member of the public I mean.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

OK then. So, now we need to know if the Mods agree. I asked James, but he hasn't "talked" to the others yet.

[Red Moon]

So you would have at most five topics running on the board. Something like this:


[list=1]
A topic for team 1 (posting by players only)
A topic for team 2 (posting by players only)
boardroom topic (posting by players only)
market place topic
general discussion area
[/list=1]

The first two wouldn't have to be here and could be done through Yahoo or MSN if you don't want to let one team know what the other is doing.

The only thing I would be against is some kind players only chat area and that the members can't post on the board in general.

Also the system of picking the people that take part is done randomly by one of admin team (james, mark or kaz) and not a ordinary member on the board.

[Mrluvaluva]

Sounds good. Could points 1 & 2 be done thru u2u?

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Red Moon
So you would have at most five topics running on the board. Something like this:


[list=1]
A topic for team 1 (posting by players only)
A topic for team 2 (posting by players only)
boardroom topic (posting by players only)
market place topic
general discussion area
[/list=1]

The first two wouldn't have to be here and could be done through Yahoo or MSN if you don't want to let one team know what the other is doing.

The only thing I would be against is some kind players only chat area and that the members can't post on the board in general.

Also the system of picking the people that take part is done randomly by one of admin team (james, mark or kaz) and not a ordinary member on the board.

For the first 2 threads, I'd thought of maybe it would be one thread, and the 2 teams might think about their ideas together, with main ideas via email/U2U. In Week 1, there will be just 1 team, and by the end of Week 1, there will be 2 teams.
As for the picking of people, do you mean the candidates or the members of public? I would suggest that 25 people are part of the public.
GD Area is good, for views and spoilers, so that will stay, and so will The Boardroom and Market Place.

[Red Moon]

Yes I mean the candidates

As for members of the public you could use the whole board who happen to be on. That way everyone is involved and nobody feels left out. That was always the problem with virtual big brother.

James said there have been some successful versions of this run on other boards have you looked at any of these for idea's ?

[SiMoN!]

i would love to help or play

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Yes I mean the candidates

As for members of the public you could use the whole board who happen to be on. That way everyone is involved and nobody feels left out. That was always the problem with virtual big brother.

James said there have been some successful versions of this run on other boards have you looked at any of these for idea's ?

I haven't looked at them yet? Where are they?

As for the candidates, I'm still now sure about the process. If we randomly select the candidates, and this series turns out to be a success, would the normal audition process be used IF a second series is commissioned?
But I know where you are coming from though. But then again, it could turn out like BB then, not a business show. I'll try and comprimise.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

To clarify, I want to do the audition process, so that there will be people I am certain who will be online when required, plus skills and entertainment. Plus, I don't want it to seem like Big Brother (randomly selected) As for being part of the public, I don't mind who is part of it, as long as they U2U me what they have bought.

[MarkWaldorf]

If it's happening it'd take part or watch. It seems fun. :dance2:

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

OK, so most FMs agree with it, so does Red. So, do you think I should start the auditions?

[~Kizwiz~]

You need to get the say so off Mark and James

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

OK.

[Red Moon]

Sorry I'm still to be convinced. For the following reasons:
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The idea needs more thought and research it has to be success.

I need a lot more detail in how it will work (i.e. rules etc)

I don't like the addition idea on the grounds it will mean the person choosing the could be persuaded to pick their friends - and it doesn't matter how fair someone says they will be I won't believe them unless one of admin team (mark, james or kaz) are involved in the process.
[/list=1]
And there are other factors such as start date would have to be after BB8 has finished and given the timing of peoples holidays it would end up starting in September.

I think the idea has potential but it needs working on and all the tasks, rules etc. need to be sorted out in advance and not during the running of the game.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Sorry I'm still to be convinced. For the following reasons:
[list=1]
The idea needs more thought and research it has to be success.

I need a lot more detail in how it will work (i.e. rules etc)

I don't like the addition idea on the grounds it will mean the person choosing the could be persuaded to pick their friends - and it doesn't matter how fair someone says they will be I won't believe them unless one of admin team (mark, james or kaz) are involved in the process.
[/list=1]
And there are other factors such as start date would have to be after BB8 has finished and given the timing of peoples holidays it would end up starting in September.

I think the idea has potential but it needs working on and all the tasks, rules etc. need to be sorted out in advance and not during the running of the game.

OK, but where do I do my research? I haven't heard of another version so could you post a link here please?
I have planned it to start on July 6th, ending on September 7th (3 days after I start school). So the schedule will be fine, even if it clashes with the last 4-6 weeks of BB8.
I will start posting ideas and the basis.

[Red Moon]

Thanks for taking my points on board.

If you ask James in a U2U I'm sure he might remember where he has seen it done before. You could take the good points and improve their idea.

But there is one big problem it won't happen while BB8 is on. The place is a BB forum before anything else.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Here is the simple format for the show, which will hopefully last for 9 weeks:

In Week 1, the 10 candidates are given a trial run with each other, given one long group task. For the first 3 days (Friday, Saturday and Sunday), I will interview the candidates to get to know them more (because they are randomly selected), and when the whole group gets to bond and know each other. Then, on Monday, the group must devise their own business (3 in total), and choose how much it is, etc... So it is very simple. Then, on Friday, based on skills, I will choose who should be in which team, naming them.
For Weeks 2 to 8, one person will be fired from the show permenately every Friday at 9.30pm. Each task will be different. Some composing of 3 to 5 mini tasks, interviews and meetings with clients (people who will order a certain number of each teams products to sell to the public), and the team with the most profit wins, getting a treat. The team who loses will face a vote, the 2 with the most votes will go to the Boardroom with the PM, and the mods (James and Mark), will decide who gets fired.
Also, a candidate who walks/quits may only do so after Week 1, and he or she may be replaced by a volunteer, but won't be "exempt" from being fired like in BB. People who break the rules will be automatically fired on a Friday, with no one else being fired.

To determine who buys what, members will U2U what they want to buy to confirm, and post what they are buying in the Market Place. Clients will order them in shops, the buyers will buy them from there.


The start date will be revealed when BB8's ending date is revealed, and people are only required to be online between 7.00pm and late.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

I'm still expecting permission from Mark...

[Kristen]

This will be so much fun! I can't wait :cheer:

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

All the main mods are completely ignoring my U2Us! Could someone please U2U James to ask him if The Apprentice is allowed, because if I do, I am worried he will get angry!

[Red Moon]

It is being discussed in admin please understand these things take time.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Red Moon
It is being discussed in admin please understand these things take time.

OK. Sorry, if someone told me, I wouldn't feel very anxious.

[andybigbro]

Sounds Like a great Idea

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Is there any news from the mods yet?

[Dan_]

I'm sure as soon as there is they will tell you.

[MarkWaldorf]

It took a while for the TiBB BB announcement, they'll be discussing down to every detail. :laugh:

[Red Moon]

Sorry for any delay, as Markus said we are discussing every detail and it's impact on the forum.

As you can appreciate we only have limited time and when people on the board kick off our main attention turns to policing the forum.

[Sasha]

Good luck with this, we just played it at my forum and the ladiez team have won :dance:

[James]

Well done. :hello:

[Legend]

What forum Sasha? Is it the DigiSpy one?

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Sasha
Good luck with this, we just played it at my forum and the ladiez team have won :dance:

Which forum?

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

If this is allowed, then this will probably start during the Autumn half-term.

[Dan_]

That's about 6 months away.

[Sunny_01]

A bit like Red I am not opposed to it entirely but I feel there could be a few problems if a real plan is not in place.

How about you do a full show plan and send it via U2U to all the Admin and Mods. I know you have outlined it on here but it is all running in together and it's difficult to go backwards and forwards to see what would happen when.

Do it in a Step 1, 2, 3 etc format for us please.

The things I would personally like to know are:

Who would choose contestants?
Who would give out tasks
How would we know the decision making is fair if only one person is doing it?
How easy/complicated will it be to follow?
How many threads will it take up?
How much time would contestants be expected to commit to the "show"?
Who will set the rules of the "show" and what will they be?

Thats just a few for starters

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Good advice, Sunny. I am already working on it.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Who would select the contestants and how: I would with the auditions process via PM
Who would give out tasks: any of the admin, mods or me would do so, but we all have to create all our ideas into one task
How would we know the decision making is fair if only one person is doing it: well the contestants would have agreed to the tough rules of the game, and this is what the show is about, plus I let them all know it is a game, plus the admin, mods and I will make a joint decision
How many threads will it take up: well, there will be a Boardroom (1), a Market Place (2), Discussion Thread (3) and the House (4), and one team will be taken to the house to scheme, whilst the other team plans in the market place
How easy/complicated will it be to follow: it will be fairly easy, because daily updates will be posted in the discussion thread to keep viewers on track, plus notices in the house either via post or via PM
How much time would contestants be expected to commit to the "show": about 3 to 4 hours per day, after 5.30pm
Who will set the rules of the "show" and what will they be: I will set the rules, and they include no copying from other teams, no sabotaging the other team in anyway, no contact with the outside world (discussion thread), no bullying, people would have to be online after 5.30pm

[Kristen]

This will be great fun!
I can't wait :cheer:

[Sunny_01]

All sounds very good so far - I personally think that you need to recruit some other FM's to help with the decision making etc.. as Mods & Admin have plenty to do keeping up to date with the forum.

Thanks for your ideas and I again will discuss them in Admin area - as we are not going to have this until after BB I dont see any real rush and maybe we might even be able to come up with some other suggestions for you if we have the time to look at it closely :xyxwave:

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Thanks Sunny! :thumbs:

[Sunny_01]

Always a pleasure never a chore :angel:

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Here is a nice and easy schedule for this series. It can run during BB8, in a very sneaky way.
The series, which will start on the 13th July until 7th September (8 weeks), will only be on for 3 shows each week, Wednesday (the beginning of the task), Thursday (the task and nominations) and Friday (the firing and interview). Each of these 3 days will have all the action the public will need, from 5.30pm to 10.00pm each night.
As for "nominations", I have decided that when the task ends (Thursday 9.30pm), I will call al the candidates to the Boadroom, announce the winners and the losers, and afterwards, the Project Manager of the losing team must pick 2 other members who face the public vote with him or her, and until Friday at 8.30pm, the public vote for either 3 of them to fire.

[~Kizwiz~]

It all sounds good but I doubt that you will be able to do this during BB. This site gets manic when its on and I'm not sure that Admin will alow it to be honest.

Edit: Plus having a show on the same night as eviction night will more than likely be a no no too

[Sunny_01]

Hi Mathew - sadly you will not be able to run it during BB. We just will not have the time for it to run then.

It will have to be later in the year

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Hi Mathew - sadly you will not be able to run it during BB. We just will not have the time for it to run then.

It will have to be later in the year

OK. Maybe during either autumn or during winter.

[GhettoSuperstar]

I want to do this!!

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Is it OK if I start auditions now please? So that everything is in place, and so when details of BB8 are released, I will close auditions and the series will start at a reasonable date.

[MarkWaldorf]

Please, yes? :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

Yes mate.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

I need permission first though. Why can't I just do it right here, right now! :elephant:

[MarkWaldorf]

Because it isn't your forum LOL

[Sunny_01]

Like we said Mathew can you please wait until after BB to do anything. If you run audtions now people may lose interest by end of summer and you would have to start all over again anyway and also there is new membership over the summer to consider.

Just wait out for now please

[GhettoSuperstar]

But Apprentice fever is now.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GhettoSuperstar
But Apprentice fever is now.

And we are a BB forum :joker:

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Plans for the first ever series of The Apprentice at TiBB are now revealed:


Auditions will take place later this summer, throughout the whole of July
Out of the people who applied, 10 hopefuls will be picked by me for this series
It will last 5 weeks, starting from Friday 17th August to Friday 21st September, with all the action taking place 5 days a week on weekdays, at specific times.

[~Kizwiz~]

That sounds like a great idea Matthew, but didnt the mods/admin say they were unhappy with just you picking the hopefuls?

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by kizwiz
That sounds like a great idea Matthew, but didnt the mods/admin say they were unhappy with just you picking the hopefuls?

Some of them say they agree though. I think it is fair though, because if the hopefuls are randomly selected, it wouldn't be The Apprentice, and would just be any other RTV show. Plus, others would complain, and say that a person may not be fit for the show just because of being randomly selected.
Besides, it won't get any harm, because I am sure that if people aren't picked, they will understand... hopefully...

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

I think that all firings (or most of them) should be done with a public vote, because I feel that I shouldn't take the responsibilty for kicking one person out.

So, for example, if a PM chooses 2 other people to go to the Boardroom, then all 3 of them face a public vote.

[~Kizwiz~]

I think that sounds like a goof plan but I think some mods/admin wanted more than one person to vet the CV's maybe

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Originally posted by kizwiz
I think that sounds like a goof plan but I think some mods/admin wanted more than one person to vet the CV's maybe

OK. I was thinking of choosing 2 other people who will be my "aides", and they will also help choosing who should be on the show.

[~Kizwiz~]

Ok..... its a while off yet, so there is plenty of time to iron out the creases.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

lol. Good pun.

It is a long time though. July (the auditions) is 2 months away, and August (the show) is 3 months away.

[~Kizwiz~]

Ahhh but we have BB8 to entertain us :thumbs:

[Legend]

Exactly, so it should fly by and most people are off on holidays and stuff which makes time go quicker.

I'm really looking forward to this, should be good to take part in or watch.

[~Kizwiz~]

I agree Ant, it should be good fun

[Sunny_01]

I think we all agreed it would be better if audtions etc happened AFTER BB was finished so as not to cause conflict with the BB show which is after all what the forum is about!

[Legend]

Yeah it should, and Matthew seems like a good organiser too so it should all go really well.

Is Matthew going to be SAS yeah?

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

I think I might be ASA, but most of the time, the public decides.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

I have decided that this series will have a Big Brother theme to it, hence this is a BB forum. The launch will be this summer, in the morning between 9.00am to 11.00am.
So, the candidates will be living a back-to-basics experience, looking after chickens, inside a basic house with basic supplies, living on possible basic rations, depending the outcomes of the tasks. There will be 2 teams, one with girls and one with boys. In the middle of the 5 week course, there will be mixed teams too.
The losing team will live on basic rations (very basic), old showers, alarms that sound early, sleeping outside in the cold in tents, with no central heating. Just to add more excitment and tension. The opposite will happen to the winning team. Then, either the losing team nominate 2 people to face the vote, or the PM would choose 2 other people to face the vote. Depends how nasty I feel...

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u260/crikilburn/tibbapprenticelogoofficial.jpg

It's coming this summer...

[Sunny_01]

starting to sound to much like a VBB to me now Matthew and you know that is NOT happening on this site!

Also if we agree to it going ahead it will be AFTER the summer and BB like we have said on more than one occasion.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

OK, I will set up a new board for it.

[Sunny_01]

cool - you might want to link in with Chrizzle as they have set up a board for VBB maybe you could ask them if you could host it there?

[MarkWaldorf]

I can't wait for this!