What is happening to the forum?

[Amy Jade]

On season is always messy I know but the ammount of trolling and baiting going on this year is genuinely off putting.

I've prefered twitter but a lot of posters here are amazing and make me laugh but honesty what is happening?

[armand.kay]

this is nothing compared to when Deana was in the house back then i would get so fumed.

[Denver]

I hardly post now adays usually stick to one or few threads and post alot in those

[Jian Yang]

Im new, but im really enjoying the forum so far. Im aware of the baiting and mild tolling, but i don't think any of it is malicious .

[Amy Jade]

this is nothing compared to when Deana was in the house back then i would get so fumed.

I remember that - I think I stopped posting towards the final it got so bad.

[T*]

I'm getting really fed up as well and it's getting to disgusting levels but i'm trying to just stop caring and giving them a response because that's what they obviously crave. I just report it now.

[armand.kay]

I remember that - I think I stopped posting towards the final it got so bad.

Yeah I don't know if it was genuinely bad back then or if I've just realised how funny the ridiculousness is. Its all just a joke to me now lol

[Amy Jade]

Yeah I don't know if it was genuinely bad back then or if I've just realised how funny the ridiculousness is. Its all just a joke to me now lol

No it was genuinely bad, even my mum used to read it and tell me to tell people to piss off for the horrific things said...especially around the time Conor threatened Deana :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I've had to put a lot of people on ignore. At least while it's on season. It's usually bad, but not this bad. :laugh:

[armand.kay]

No it was genuinely bad, even my mum used to read it and tell me to tell people to piss off for the horrific things said...especially around the time Conor threatened Deana :laugh:

I remember there was a week when I only posted in the non BB threads or Deana's fan thread

[Novo]

Im new, but im really enjoying the forum so far. Im aware of the baiting and mild tolling, but i don't think any of it is malicious .

:thumbs:

[y.winter]

I never know if people are seriously turning against each other or is it all tongue in cheek...
I don't feel like it has become unbearable.
But I guess people are always free to use the report button when needed.
I'd seen worse off season in here.

[Amy Jade]

I remember there was a week when I only posted in the non BB threads or Deana's fan thread

I'm on the verge of doing that this year. The vitriol posted about housemates physical apperance is worse than the 'lateshia is fat' 'lateaser needs to look after her kid' 'lateesha needs a diet' from last year

[caprimint]

Best it's ever been this year

[smudgie]

I am finding it quite reasonable.
But if I have been over the top all I can say in my defence is sorry, I am struggling a bit this week:bawling:

[Vanessa]

I am finding it quite reasonable.
But if I have been over the top all I can say in my defence is sorry, I am struggling a bit this week:bawling:

You haven't been :hug:

[smudgie]

You haven't been :hug:
Thanks Vanessa.:love:
Good, I hate to upset people for no reason.
I do like a bit of fun and little digs at the housemates but don't want to go over the top.

[Vicky.]

Unfortunately insulting appearances happens every year. I hate it myself tbh but I guess its part and parcel of a show like BB.

I don't think this year has been as bad as usual tbh. Some of the Isabelle hate got a bit too much a few days back but its all generally a lot worse than this.

[Jordan.]

I'm getting really fed up as well and it's getting to disgusting levels but i'm trying to just stop caring and giving them a response because that's what they obviously crave. I just report it now.

Same but it seems the mods are turning a blind eye to the continuous baiting on here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its the worst ever. I think because raph and his supporters. Just awful this year. Hence why I stick to DS

[Locke.]

Really enjoying it this year. Has been fun talking about Raph and other great housemates like Lotes and Kieran.

[sampvt]

Unfortunately insulting appearances happens every year. I hate it myself tbh but I guess its part and parcel of a show like BB.

I don't think this year has been as bad as usual tbh. Some of the Isabelle hate got a bit too much a few days back but its all generally a lot worse than this.

I think i know why so please dont infract or ban me for writing this.....If you look, like \i have, at any time on the forum there are between 50 to 70 members on line which peaks at not much more after the show. These are members not guests and a large portion of these members are only on season posters like myself. The small minority that keep this forum going are banded together by several things that we dont need to go into, but it appears from outside, that these people are virtually all of the same mind when it comes to favs and diametrically opposed to the on season fm,s

Hence we get competition, which leads to mild baiting and eventually to trolling if the baiting does not work and this goes for both sides. I am probably the worst of the on season posters, but Ive got a short fuse and hate being baited. Personally I think the off season posters want the site to themselves and they see the on season posters as invaders, hence the problems.

Now I know this analogy does not apply to everyone but \i can name 6 or 7 FM,s that rag me all the time and i will admit that I have my targets as well so its fault on both sides but this year, the punishments seem a little one sided and no quarter seems to be given regarding the professional and non professional methods employed to bait and troll.

I can troll, i can even bait, but \i am a mere novice compared to the tactics some of my nemesis's use. This is a forum for all, but some view it as their own.

Honest opinion and not pointed at anyone, im only saying what a few of us really believe but we love bb and tibb equally and its sad that the site has lost a lot of good posters that wre here in the old days.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think i know why so please dont infract or ban me for writing this.....If you look, like \i have, at any time on the forum there are between 50 to 70 members on line which peaks at not much more after the show. These are members not guests and a large portion of these members are only on season posters like myself. The small minority that keep this forum going are banded together by several things that we dont need to go into, but it appears from outside, that these people are virtually all of the same mind when it comes to favs and diametrically opposed to the on season fm,s

Hence we get competition, which leads to mild baiting and eventually to trolling if the baiting does not work and this goes for both sides. I am probably the worst of the on season posters, but Ive got a short fuse and hate being baited. Personally I think the off season posters want the site to themselves and they see the on season posters as invaders, hence the problems.

Now I know this analogy does not apply to everyone but \i can name 6 or 7 FM,s that rag me all the time and i will admit that I have my targets as well so its fault on both sides but this year, the punishments seem a little one sided and no quarter seems to be given regarding the professional and non professional methods employed to bait and troll.

I can troll, i can even bait, but \i am a mere novice compared to the tactics some of my nemesis's use. This is a forum for all, but some view it as their own.

Honest opinion and not pointed at anyone, im only saying what a few of us really believe but we love bb and tibb equally and its sad that the site has lost a lot of good posters that wre here in the old days.

:clap1:

[Shaun]

The nerve to clap that after posting

Its the worst ever. I think because raph and his supporters.

lmao

[Crimson Dynamo]

The nerve to clap that after posting



lmao

Sometimes one can expose a tranche of fans

Don't blame me

[thesheriff443]

The truth is, you all take it far too seriously, you support people you don't really know,you defend them blindly regardless of their actions, you attack others that you don't really know, and then attack one another for supporting someone you don't like.

[Vicky.]

I think i know why so please dont infract or ban me for writing this.....If you look, like \i have, at any time on the forum there are between 50 to 70 members on line which peaks at not much more after the show. These are members not guests and a large portion of these members are only on season posters like myself. The small minority that keep this forum going are banded together by several things that we dont need to go into, but it appears from outside, that these people are virtually all of the same mind when it comes to favs and diametrically opposed to the on season fm,s

Hence we get competition, which leads to mild baiting and eventually to trolling if the baiting does not work and this goes for both sides. I am probably the worst of the on season posters, but Ive got a short fuse and hate being baited. Personally I think the off season posters want the site to themselves and they see the on season posters as invaders, hence the problems.

Now I know this analogy does not apply to everyone but \i can name 6 or 7 FM,s that rag me all the time and i will admit that I have my targets as well so its fault on both sides but this year, the punishments seem a little one sided and no quarter seems to be given regarding the professional and non professional methods employed to bait and troll.

I can troll, i can even bait, but \i am a mere novice compared to the tactics some of my nemesis's use. This is a forum for all, but some view it as their own.

Honest opinion and not pointed at anyone, im only saying what a few of us really believe but we love bb and tibb equally and its sad that the site has lost a lot of good posters that wre here in the old days.
Ok..

But what does that have to do with insulting housemate appearances?! :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

I think i know why so please dont infract or ban me for writing this.....If you look, like \i have, at any time on the forum there are between 50 to 70 members on line which peaks at not much more after the show. These are members not guests and a large portion of these members are only on season posters like myself. The small minority that keep this forum going are banded together by several things that we dont need to go into, but it appears from outside, that these people are virtually all of the same mind when it comes to favs and diametrically opposed to the on season fm,s

Hence we get competition, which leads to mild baiting and eventually to trolling if the baiting does not work and this goes for both sides. I am probably the worst of the on season posters, but Ive got a short fuse and hate being baited. Personally I think the off season posters want the site to themselves and they see the on season posters as invaders, hence the problems.

Now I know this analogy does not apply to everyone but \i can name 6 or 7 FM,s that rag me all the time and i will admit that I have my targets as well so its fault on both sides but this year, the punishments seem a little one sided and no quarter seems to be given regarding the professional and non professional methods employed to bait and troll.

I can troll, i can even bait, but \i am a mere novice compared to the tactics some of my nemesis's use. This is a forum for all, but some view it as their own.

Honest opinion and not pointed at anyone, im only saying what a few of us really believe but we love bb and tibb equally and its sad that the site has lost a lot of good posters that wre here in the old days.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

The trouble with this forum ,above all others is the idiots have been allowed to take over the asylum,this would never happen on other sites,the mods need to take back control and not run scared when a certain few posters think they are in charge, they can clearly see who is constantly in pack mode are pressing the report button en masse,they can clearly see when a certain member posts and within seconds all the same group appear and pack goad and bait, this is what needs stamping out ,in a simple sentence TAKE THIS FORUM BACK FOR ALL MEMBERS NOT JUST A FEW ,Until this happens the good old members will never come back

[Nicky91]

i'm sorry Amy i am just feeling annoyed with the lack of support i get for my own fave


i have nothing personal against anyone on here, i love TiBB and all of it's members :love:

[Kazanne]

I think if anyone here says they have never commented on peoples looks,they are telling porkies,EVERYONE does it it's human nature,plus if people are not liking your faves and you don't like what they post. just put them on ignore or skip their posts,it's easily solved,I do it and have no problems,I also turned the gifs off as they were equally as annoying as some posts. so just ignore,turn off gifs and job done.

[Greg!]

The trouble with this forum ,above all others is the idiots have been allowed to take over the asylum,this would never happen on other sites,the mods need to take back control and not run scared when a certain few posters think they are in charge, they can clearly see who is constantly in pack mode are pressing the report button en masse,they can clearly see when a certain member posts and within seconds all the same group appear and pack goad and bait, this is what needs stamping out ,in a simple sentence TAKE THIS FORUM BACK FOR ALL MEMBERS NOT JUST A FEW ,Until this happens the good old members will never come back

Personally I think things like calling other members "idiots" would put off old members rejoining or new people joining, but that's just my opinion.

[chuff me dizzy]

Personally I think things like calling other members "idiots" would put off old members rejoining or new people joining, but that's just my opinion.

And you're entitled to it ,but as you know damn well its a saying,but good try :pat:

[AnnieK]

This year hasn't been as bad as some...its a fan forum and really shouldn't be taken too seriously. Just scroll on by....

[chuff me dizzy]

]The truth is, you all take it far too seriously, you support people you don't really know,you defend them blindly[/B] regardless of their actions, you attack others that you don't really know, and then attack one another for supporting someone you don't like.

I don't think its all a case of this ,if you look series after series the same clique all support the same person ( sometimes before they are even in the house i.e. Sue) and they all stick together, this is fine ( if not a tad childish,but hey ho ) but when deep down you dont even like the person you are defending or supporting but wont go against the clique as you don't want to be the one to break ranks your hearts not in it, so you resort to personal attacks

[bots]

There is a clique on the forum, its as clear as day and they do attack in packs. As Kaz says, use the ignore feature, it works a treat, and much improves the forum experience. That's what its there for :laugh:

[Josy]

The forum is the same every year with housemate insults etc, I wouldn't say this year was worse than any other, some obviously feel it more some years depending on who they support etc and the best thing is after BB *most* regular posters go back to talking and getting along with everyone all though there is one or two that seem to take things tooo far.

The insulting housemates thing I find completely pointless and immature, it adds nothing at all to actual debates and regardless of what people that do it think it does not further their points in anyway, if anything it makes their opinions seem less valid and rational.

So theres nothing happening to the forum IMO.

[Josy]

I think if anyone here says they have never commented on peoples looks,they are telling porkies,EVERYONE does it it's human nature,plus if people are not liking your faves and you don't like what they post. just put them on ignore or skip their posts,it's easily solved,I do it and have no problems,I also turned the gifs off as they were equally as annoying as some posts. so just ignore,turn off gifs and job done.

Theres a massive difference commenting on someones looks and then going into a thread and calling a young girl horrible un called for names like example 'cumslut' 'diry slags' and so on, it's pathetic tbqh.

[Nicky91]

i agree Josy, housemates are also persons with feelings like us :(

[Kazanne]

Theres a massive difference commenting on someones looks and then going into a thread and calling a young girl horrible un called for names like example 'cumslut' 'diry slags' and so on, it's pathetic tbqh.

It's the same every year though,so nothing has happened to the forum as such.

[Amy Jade]

Perhaps I have noticed it a lot more this year than before because Isabelle and Chanelle are my favourites and they get called a lot of names, especially about how they look then. I never really thought of it that way

[Josy]

It's the same every year though,so nothing has happened to the forum as such.

That doesn't make it ok though, and it's also against the forum rules to post OTT insults about housemates, always has been.

[chuff me dizzy]

There is a clique on the forum, its as clear as day and they do attack in packs. As Kaz says, use the ignore feature, it works a treat, and much improves the forum experience. That's what its there for :laugh:

I agree with all you say ,but nothing will change while mods turn a blind eye to the group thats doing it,just so someones on here off season

[Vicky.]

Perhaps I have noticed it a lot more this year than before because Isabelle and Chanelle are my favourites and they get called a lot of names, especially about how they look then. I never really thought of it that way

I think this is it tbh. Until you have supported someone who does get a lot of 'hate' you don't actually realise how bad it is. People tend to overlook horrible posts about people they dislike too.

This year has actually been better than most others for OTT hate, appearance insults and such believe it or not. This is the sort of thing we have to look out for every year and I am being entirely honest when I say that we have had nowhere near as many rulebreaks this year as others. One of the worst years (IMO) for this was actually the year Helen Wood won. BB12 was particularly bad too but this year is sooo mild :laugh:

[reece(:]

I'd say the Lateysha hate last year was worse

[Jordan.]

Its the worst ever. I think because raph and his supporters.

it seems the mods are turning a blind eye to the continuous baiting on here.

.

[Cal.]

Lateysha hate was the worst ever I think.

[Cal.]

But Isabelle and Chanelle have had it pretty bad too.

[Amy Jade]

Yeah the Lateysha hate was absoloutely disgusting. I put so many on ignore of it.

[Vicky.]

.

Not really sure how this is baiting? Yes its a post about other members/supporters BUT the entire thread is about that so it would be kind of unfair to punish one and not others.

I think its a valid criticism also...not as much now but definitely in the beginning of the show, where noone could say anything negative about Raph without being accused of trolling and such :shrug: By a very large group of members too. It was noted that literally 10+ people would descend on anyone who didn't like Raph for any reason, accusing them of just trolling. This did include a few brand new members too who were only on their first or second post, and subsequently did not return.

We have had so many reports over the past couple of days of 'baiting' when in reality, all the person being reported is doing is saying negative stuff about a housemate that the person reporting likes. Have also had reports about 'OTT hate' for, for example someone saying 'I cannot stand X, she is such a sly cow' and so on...such reports are rather baffling tbh so I do think there is something to it that some people are just (as every year) overinvested in the show and getting rather obsessive over their faves. This is not necessarily a negative thing as tbh, without people getting this into the show the forum probably wouldn't exist. At the same time some do seem to be getting slightly obsessed the opposite way around and over the past 2 or 3 days I personally have gave out more infractions for simply..disgusting posts.

Basically, I think some may be at that stage in the show where they are hypersensitive, I think others are at that stage when their bile becomes very over the top and begins being a big problem. I think if I get time later today I might do an announcement about OTT bile filled posts as they really do add nothing at all to the forum besides make the lot of us look like horrible people tbh D: No discussion can really come from eg. 'X must be so riddled with STDS, filthy *****, ugly cow' etc and obviously such posts are over the top and will cause issues with supporters of whatever housemate is being ripped into on such a personal level.

[Cal.]

I only get infracted for being a bit rude sometimes I don't think I'm OTT!

[Gstar]

I don't think its all a case of this ,if you look series after series the same clique all support the same person ( sometimes before they are even in the house i.e. Sue) and they all stick together, this is fine ( if not a tad childish,but hey ho ) but when deep down you dont even like the person you are defending or supporting but wont go against the clique as you don't want to be the one to break ranks your hearts not in it, so you resort to personal attacks

It's not a clique we just have similar taste, the same way you and your clique were calling Lateysha a bad mother last year

[Kazanne]

Lateysha hate was the worst ever I think.

I don't think people hated her as such,they just hated the continuous excusing of her faults and the sychophancy that can sometimes be sickening , it doesn't help a housemate to constantly overlook their faults ,that is what causes a lot of friction,imo. because sometime people can blatantly see a fave has done wrong but they are still lauded and praised.:shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

It's not a clique we just have similar taste, the same way you and your clique were calling Lateysha a bad mother last year

Utter rot, theres one ringleader and the rest are sheep

[Vicky.]

I only get infracted for being a bit rude sometimes I don't think I'm OTT!

I don't remember you ever being infracted tbh, but my guess would be GIF spam :p

I don't think I have ever seen you go OTT on a housemate. 'Stanning' maybe, but thats not a rulebreak :laugh:

[Vicky.]

I don't think people hated her as such,they just hated the continuous excusing of her faults and the sychophancy that can sometimes be sickening , it doesn't help a housemate to constantly overlook their faults ,that is what causes a lot of friction,imo. because sometime people can blatantly see a fave has done wrong but they are still lauded and praised.:shrug:

I would also agree with this actually. When a housemate is pretty much worshipped, it makes those who dislike them feel the need to post more, and it IS very bloody annoying when it seems a select one or two housemates per year can do absolutely no wrong :laugh:

Its a bit of a vicious circle tbh. People who dislike housemates post more because of the OTT love in, those who like that hosuemate get upset as their chosen one is being insulted so they get worse with the lovein, so that hate gets worse...and on and on

Having been on both sides of this in the past I find it very annoying when one housemate is basically treat like God.l Everything they do is absolutely hilarious, they can do no wrong whilst other housemates get slagged for doing the same stuff..etc. BUT its also annoying when it seems some are purposely just trying to pick faults with someone you like D:

[caprimint]

I think half the time people also get offended by things that certain members say, when they wouldn't if it was one of their friends or part of their 'clique' maybe, so not even necessarily what the comment is, but because of who is saying it

[Nicky91]

Lateysha wasn't hated that much, Chanelle is getting more undeserved hate this time :(

[chuff me dizzy]

I think half the time people also get offended by things that certain members say, when they wouldn't if it was one of their friends or part of their 'clique' maybe, so not even necessarily what the comment is, but because of who is saying it

:clap1: One rule for one,and one for another

[Tom4784]

Same but it seems the mods are turning a blind eye to the continuous baiting on here.

As ever with posts like these, I encourage you to tell us all about how much you know about other people's infractions, Members can only see their own infractions but if you are an exception then please enlighten us all.

I think if anyone here says they have never commented on peoples looks,they are telling porkies,EVERYONE does it it's human nature,plus if people are not liking your faves and you don't like what they post. just put them on ignore or skip their posts,it's easily solved,I do it and have no problems,I also turned the gifs off as they were equally as annoying as some posts. so just ignore,turn off gifs and job done.

Why are you trying to justify people slutshaming women? Why do you think it's okay to rag on someone's appearance to an OTT extent just because other people do it?

I don't think people hated her as such,they just hated the continuous excusing of her faults and the sychophancy that can sometimes be sickening , it doesn't help a housemate to constantly overlook their faults ,that is what causes a lot of friction,imo. because sometime people can blatantly see a fave has done wrong but they are still lauded and praised.:shrug:

Most of the comments about Lateysha were about her weight, you think it's okay to fatshame people because it's a 'fault' of theirs?

[Gstar]

Utter rot, theres one ringleader and the rest are sheep

Salmans giving us instructions from beyond the grave

[Vicky.]

I think half the time people also get offended by things that certain members say, when they wouldn't if it was one of their friends or part of their 'clique' maybe, so not even necessarily what the comment is, but because of who is saying it

Yes this is a big problem too actually.

There was an example of this just last night. One member posted something and was reported by a couple of people within seconds. A few mins later another member posted EXACTLY the same thing and no reports or anything despite the same people that reported the first one replying to the second one

[Samm]

I like how the people on here who moan about the class of housemates in the house but then go on to call the female housemates by nicknames such as latesiatyqwenz and miss tangoed

[Jordan.]

As ever with posts like these, I encourage you to tell us all about how much you know about other people's infractions, Members can only see their own infractions but if you are an exception then please enlighten us all.

Well I think the fact posts I report like the one I quoted above don't get deleted is enough proof they are not being punished :sleep:

[Kazanne]

Yes this is a big problem too actually.

There was an example of this just last night. One member posted something and was reported by a couple of people within seconds. A few mins later another member posted EXACTLY the same thing and no reports or anything despite the same people that reported the first one replying to the second one

Honestly Vicky ,you must have such a good laugh sometimes at some of the stuff that goes on and it must drive you mad at the same time.

[Kazanne]

As ever with posts like these, I encourage you to tell us all about how much you know about other people's infractions, Members can only see their own infractions but if you are an exception then please enlighten us all.



Why are you trying to justify people slutshaming women? Why do you think it's okay to rag on someone's appearance to an OTT extent just because other people do it?



Most of the comments about Lateysha were about her weight, you think it's okay to fatshame people because it's a 'fault' of theirs?

Also hostile mods don't help at all.

[Tom4784]

Well I think the fact posts I report like the one I quoted above don't get deleted is enough proof they are not being punished :sleep:

except posts not being deleted doesn't always mean they haven't been infracted.

At the end of the day, like everyone with that train of thought, are making assumptions and presenting them as facts.

[Tom4784]

Also hostile mods don't help at all.

Ah, trying to paint me as hostile in order to get out of answering a couple of difficult valid questions. Says it all really.

[Vicky.]

Honestly Vicky ,you must have such a good laugh sometimes at some of the stuff that goes on and it must drive you mad at the same time.

Yes its both funny and frustrating in equal measures.

Most people can see how silly they have been over the series once the series ends though. I like the first day of off season when its like a cloud lifts and all of a sudden everyone is ok with each other again :laugh:

[Jordan.]

except posts not being deleted doesn't always mean they haven't been infracted.

At the end of the day, like everyone with that train of thought, are making assumptions and presenting them as facts.

So was that post infracted then and can you explain why it was left in this thread when it's clearly a personal attack on fans on housemates?

[Tom4784]

So was that post infracted then and can you explain why it was left in this thread when it's clearly a personal attack on fans on housemates?

Well you see Jordan, you best sit down for this because it's going to be a nasty shock, but us Mods are actually human. It's shocking I know but sometimes we respond to reports, hand out infractions and bans and sometimes we forget to remove posts afterwards.

I know this revelation is shocking but please try to remain calm.

[Jordan.]

Well you see Jordan, you best sit down for this because it's going to be a nasty shock, but us Mods are actually human. It's shocking I know but sometimes we respond to reports, hand out infractions and bans and sometimes we forget to remove posts afterwards.

I know this revelation is shocking but please try to remain calm.

You could have said this without being hostile

[Ninastar]

It's true, dean bullies me on the PS4 and I cry myself to sleep every night

[T*]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/95a526ac6d593994da2b3119e3b1e86e/tumblr_nu9ltvHhb71tfkb3fo1_500.gif

[Tom4784]

It's true, dean bullies me on the PS4 and I cry myself to sleep every night

https://media.tenor.com/images/333c0c4d68012bc22b16e43dba35f0ad/tenor.gif

[Tom4784]

You could have said this without being hostile

You'll get over it.

Also, why are you kicking up a fuss about this when you don't seem too bothered when people call other members catladies? I'm pretty sure you have even used that phrase in the past too.

[Amy Jade]

Lateysha wasn't hated that much, Chanelle is getting more undeserved hate this time :(

The Lateysha hate was absoloutely disgusting. People slating her as a parent, not even as a role model as Lotan has been I am talking full on 'fat bitch needs to go look after her kids' level and 'bet her daughter is so proud of the fat cow'.

I love Chanelle but she doesn't get it half as bad as Lateysha last year. I hated the forum at points it was that horrible to see people attacking her as a parent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Lateysha hate was absoloutely disgusting. People slating her as a parent, not even as a role model as Lotan has been I am talking full on 'fat bitch needs to go look after her kids' level and 'bet her daughter is so proud of the fat cow'.

I love Chanelle but she doesn't get it half as bad as Lateysha last year. I hated the forum at points it was that horrible to see people attacking her as a parent.

why what type of parent is she?

[Jordan.]

You'll get over it.

Also, why are you kicking up a fuss about this when you don't seem too bothered when people call other members catladies? I'm pretty sure you have even used that phrase in the past too.

Because cat lady isn't something that offends me so why would I report it? that's up to other members to do. Not sure why you're now trying to come for me just because I wasn't happy with an offensive post in this thread. :unsure:

[Kazanne]

I'd say the Lateysha hate last year was worse

Lets not forget the vile stuff said about Jason when he outed her ,it works both ways.comments like "I wish he would die" how over the top is that ?

[Amy Jade]

why what type of parent is she?

When she was on Big Brother none of you knew (myself included) but since it has finished and I have seen Lateysha with her baby she is a fantastic parent, Wynter adores her.

[Amy Jade]

Lets not forget the vile stuff said about Jason when he outed her ,it works both ways.comments like "I wish he would die" how over the top is that ?

Off the cuff things said in shock while should be dealt with are just that - things said in shock. The nasty posts about Lateysha and her weight and her parenting were series long as you are well aware.

[Vicky.]

I remember the Lateysha parenting comments. It tends to happen a lot when a parent is on BB. But its worse if the parent is a mother...having said that Aaron got a lot of hate about his son too. Wish people would keep kids out of it tbh. BB is hardly a place where you need to be setting an example for your kids or anything so not sure why its always brought up. I remember a load of comments when teesh stripped off to her knickers about 'what if her kid is watching'. Well, her child was very young so unlikely to be watching anyway and again...BB is **** all to do with parenting.

People are people aswell as parents. You do not need to be in 'parent mode' 24/7, especially when your child is nowhere near you

[Vicky.]

Off the cuff things said in shock while should be dealt with are just that - things said in shock. The nasty posts about Lateysha and her weight and her parenting were series long as you are well aware.

The hate about Jason was not just a one off.

This post is an example of how people only see/care when it affects a housemate they like actually. Its all fair game if they dislike a housemate, all hate is fine, even ridiculous OTT hate like death threats is excused

[Tom4784]

Because cat lady isn't something that offends me so why would I report it? that's up to other members to do. Not sure why you're now trying to come for me just because I wasn't happy with an offensive post in this thread. :unsure:

Because calling people catladies is exactly the type of baiting that you spoke out against. It's hypocritical.

This whole forum is a god damn hypocritical mess tbh, we get told repeatedly that we need to be tougher but the people saying that only want us to get tough on people they don't happen to like, if THEY just so happen to get infracted for the same thing then we're being biased or we're ignoring something or some other bull**** reason. People only want us to take a hard stance when it benefits them.

[Kazanne]

I remember the Lateysha parenting comments. It tends to happen a lot when a parent is on BB. But its worse if the parent is a mother...having said that Aaron got a lot of hate about his son too. Wish people would keep kids out of it tbh. BB is hardly a p[lace where you need to be setting an example for your kids or anything so not sure why its always brought up. I remember a load of comments when teesh stripped off to her k ickers about 'what if her kid is watching'. Well, her child was very young so unlikely to be watching anyway and again...BB is **** all to do with parenting.

It was the same with Nicola and Kim last year and the same with Lotan,people saying his child might be watching when I doubt it as he is very young.

[Kazanne]

The hate about Jason was not just a one off.

This post is an example of how people only see/care when it affects a housemate they like actually. Its all fair game if they dislike a housemate, all hate is fine, even ridiculous OTT hate like death threats is excused

No it wasn't,he was dragged through this forum and called some horrible stuff,I remember it well as he was my fave,and it was made all the more sweeter when he won.

[Vicky.]

It was the same with Nicola and Kim last year and the same with Lotan,people saying his child might be watching when I doubt it as he is very young.

Yup. But if the person getting hate for their parenting is someone posters dislike, its all fine and/or ignored.

As dezzy said its all so hypocritical. We are expected to be tough on people that some members dislike, but it has to be applied across the board. And when it is, then all of a sudden we are too harsh.

Posts that are obvious baiting are ignored aslong as they are baiting the 'right' people. And so on.

Modding is bloody annoying on season tbh. But you get used to always being in the wrong :joker:

[Amy Jade]

The hate about Jason was not just a one off.

This post is an example of how people only see/care when it affects a housemate they like actually. Its all fair game if they dislike a housemate, all hate is fine, even ridiculous OTT hate like death threats is excused

In fairness I never said hoping anyone dies is ok, I believe If I had said I hope he dies I would have deserved a punishment. That said Kazanne mentioned one incident and people were shocked Lateysha was evicted such a move was bound to cause people to react.

The Lateysha hate was literally over the smallest thing, all she need do was talk and you could expect at least one person to call her a name over her apperance or parenting skills.

[Headie]

Because calling people catladies is exactly the type of baiting that you spoke out against. It's hypocritical.

This whole forum is a god damn hypocritical mess tbh, we get told repeatedly that we need to be tougher but the people saying that only want us to get tough on people they don't happen to like, if THEY just so happen to get infracted for the same thing then we're being biased or we're ignoring something or some other bull**** reason. People only want us to take a hard stance when it benefits them.

Can't speak for others, but my use of the word "catladies" is reference to the Facebook crowd who go OTT with their hate comments on FB, not a reference to members on here. I never use it in relation to this forum.

[Cal.]

Can't speak for others, but my use of the word "catladies" is reference to the Facebook crowd who go OTT with their hate comments on FB, not a reference to members on here. I never use it in relation to this forum.

I agree with this.

[Cal.]

I thought it was a term for the Facebook crowd that hate all the good hms and are responsible for all the bad voting results.

[Kazanne]

Yup. But if the person getting hate for their parenting is someone posters dislike, its all fine and/or ignored.

As dezzy said its all so hypocritical. We are expected to be tough on people that some members dislike, but it has to be applied across the board. And when it is, then all of a sudden we are too harsh.

Posts that are obvious baiting are ignored aslong as they are baiting the 'right' people. And so on.

Modding is bloody annoying on season tbh. But you get used to always being in the wrong :joker:

:laugh::laugh:I can only imagine the frustration,it must feel like a playground sometimes,for what it's worth,you are doing a sterling job.:wavey:

[Vicky.]

In fairness I never said hoping anyone dies is ok, I believe If I had said I hope he dies I would have deserved a punishment. That said Kazanne mentioned one incident and people were shocked Lateysha was evicted such a move was bound to cause people to react.

The Lateysha hate was literally over the smallest thing, all she need do was talk and you could expect at least one person to call her a name over her apperance or parenting skills.

All hate seems to be over the smallest thing tbh. For any housemate. So many get sooo into the show and in a way thats good as otherwise this forum would have died ages ago.

I just find the hypocrisy amusing tbh. One of the things we have to do as mods is to see everything the same, if that makes sense. So we notice all hate, all insults, all OTT stuff and so on, no matter which housemate is the target of it. But as members, you do not need to worry about stuff like that so most members seem to only ever see/care when a housemate they like gets hate.

There are exceptions to this of course. Withano, for example seems to notice everything and is willing to point out when a housemate he dislikes is being unfairly targetted or when someone he likes is being praised simply for breathing :laugh:

This is not an insult btw, before I was made a mod I was exactly the same, I only ever reported stuff that was negative about housemates I liked (Freddie, as it happened) and would not give a **** if someone was OTT about one I couldn't stand (Lisa)

[Vicky.]

Can't speak for others, but my use of the word "catladies" is reference to the Facebook crowd who go OTT with their hate comments on FB, not a reference to members on here. I never use it in relation to this forum.

Catladies is a mass insult and has been used to insult people on here before. The term causes issues every year and this year it has been worse so is being deleted/infracted. Its basically used to insult anyone who likes a housemate that the forum does not. When an eviction result comes in too...'voters are utter idiots and only thinking with their penises saving X' or something is also against the rules as its a mass insult to people who vote, which includes people on the forum.

[Gstar]

Can't speak for others, but my use of the word "catladies" is reference to the Facebook crowd who go OTT with their hate comments on FB, not a reference to members on here. I never use it in relation to this forum.

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[T*]

Can't speak for others, but my use of the word "catladies" is reference to the Facebook crowd who go OTT with their hate comments on FB, not a reference to members on here. I never use it in relation to this forum.

I agree with this.

I thought it was a term for the Facebook crowd that hate all the good hms and are responsible for all the bad voting results.

I also thought this :worry:

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes and SCUM means the person is lovely.....

so good news for Lotan

:rolleyes:

[Ashley.]

It's the same every year though

Ah alright. You're allowed to call young women "slags" and "*****s", because that's how it's always been. It's not on. It's disgusting. You're supposed to be setting an example.

[Amy Jade]

yes and SCUM means the person is lovely.....

so good news for Lotan

:rolleyes:

Calling someone scum for actions inside the house is perfectly fine surely (maybe Dezzy or Vicky can confirm?)

Kayleigh was one of my early faves but threatening to kill people is a scummy move and she got dragged for it.

I find men threatening to physically hurt women scummy hence I believe Lotan is scum.

[Headie]

Catladies is a mass insult and has been used to insult people on here before. The term causes issues every year and this year it has been worse so is being deleted/infracted. Its basically used to insult anyone who likes a housemate that the forum does not. When an eviction result comes in too...'voters are utter idiots and only thinking with their penises saving X' or something is also against the rules as its a mass insult to people who vote, which includes people on the forum.

Like I said though, people are interpreting it as being used as an insult to people on here, when it's actually being used about the Facebook crowd (at least my use of it is anyway)

[Vicky.]

Calling someone scum for actions inside the house is perfectly fine surely (maybe Dezzy or Vicky can confirm?)

Kayleigh was one of my early faves but threatening to kill people is a scummy move and she got dragged for it.

I find men threatening to physically hurt women scummy hence I believe Lotan is scum.

Of course thats fine. Calling voters/members scum is not ok though obviously.

It would only become an issue if the post was nothing but a load of bile filled insults. For example 'Lotan is scum' is fine 'Lotan is a scummy wifebeating twat who deserves to die' is not fine.

[Vicky.]

Like I said though, people are interpreting it as being used as an insult to people on here, when it's actually being used about the Facebook crowd (at least my use of it is anyway)

Either way, catladies is not allowed anymore, as members have been told. Many do use it to insult members, and also to be sly about insulting fans of certain housemates. Theres really no need to stereotype a bunch of people anyway tbh, and I don't really see a context in which calling a bunch of people 'catladies' can add anything to any discussion :S if talking about facebook voters, maybe just say facebook voters?

[Amy Jade]

All hate seems to be over the smallest thing tbh. For any housemate. So many get sooo into the show and in a way thats good as otherwise this forum would have died ages ago.

I just find the hypocrisy amusing tbh. One of the things we have to do as mods is to see everything the same, if that makes sense. So we notice all hate, all insults, all OTT stuff and so on, no matter which housemate is the target of it. But as members, you do not need to worry about stuff like that so most members seem to only ever see/care when a housemate they like gets hate.

There are exceptions to this of course. Withano, for example seems to notice everything and is willing to point out when a housemate he dislikes is being unfairly targetted or when someone he likes is being praised simply for breathing :laugh:

This is not an insult btw, before I was made a mod I was exactly the same, I only ever reported stuff that was negative about housemates I liked (Freddie, as it happened) and would not give a **** if someone was OTT about one I couldn't stand (Lisa)
I'm not insulted don't worry you've actually made perfect sense. I guess I do feel more sensitive towards some housemates being insulted than others based on my favour towards them.

That said even if people turned on Ellie and started calling her a slapper I would think it was uncalled for.

[Smithy]

honestly i blame nicky91

[Vicky.]

honestly i blame nicky91

Honestly, Nicky and Vanessa would probably be the only members actually left on here if we got as strict as some members appear to want us to be :D I don't think I have ever seen either post anything that was horrible.

[Jordan.]

There's nothing wrong with being a cat lady anyway I love cats

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[Ashley.]

There's nothing wrong with being a cat lady anyway I love cats

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:joker:

[Headie]

Either way, catladies is not allowed anymore, as members have been told. Many do use it to insult members, and also to be sly about insulting fans of certain housemates. Theres really no need to stereotype a bunch of people anyway tbh, and I don't really see a context in which calling a bunch of people 'catladies' can add anything to any discussion :S if talking about facebook voters, maybe just say facebook voters?

That's fair enough, I just didn't want people telling me that I was using the phrase to insult members when I know I'm not (I've not been infracted or have an issue with this or anything I just wanted to throw in my alternative viewpoint on the matter :laugh:)

[Jack_]

Despite what I was saying the other day, I do actually think this year hasn't been as bad as previous! It's been increasing in vitriol for years but peaked last year, it was so nasty

My issue really only is with the vitriolic posts about housemates appearances, it is just completely unnecessary and really childish, and is a real example of something that sours this forum and makes it a miserable place to frequent. You have to be 13 to sign up to this forum, these types of comments are stuff I'd expect in a playground, not among adults...I just think people need to grow up. I remain adamant that I'm consistent on this too, I found Lateysha overrated and didn't care for her at all but the 'whale', 'fat', 'bad mother' comments were pathetic, as were the comments deriding Jason for being a 'beast' or a 'thug'...I found him overrated too (but preferred him to her). Why can't we just have mature discussions about the housemates characters...you know, what the point of the show actually is? It's not Next Top Model, the housemates are there to be judged on their characters and personalities and what they're like as a housemate. If you think someone's a crap one, fine, but I've never understood the need to insult the way they look or how good a parent they are? What relevance does it have and how do we even know the latter? I just think many Big Brother fans (be it on this forum or even moreso on social media) are far too obsessive, It's Only A Gameshow after all, we watch these people for 48 minutes a night...they're still human and we don't really know them.

Everything else I don't really care about. The trolling and the 'I like this housemate/now I don't' is tiresome but whatever, I don't care about insults regarding fans of housemates or baiting or the like, that's part and parcel of being on a forum...but the personal and over-the-top insults about housemates, that's the one thing that spoils this forum IMO.

Catladies is a mass insult and has been used to insult people on here before. The term causes issues every year and this year it has been worse so is being deleted/infracted. Its basically used to insult anyone who likes a housemate that the forum does not. When an eviction result comes in too...'voters are utter idiots and only thinking with their penises saving X' or something is also against the rules as its a mass insult to people who vote, which includes people on the forum.

I've genuinely always considered the 'cat lady' thing to be people on Facebook who have a cat as their profile picture and make OTT all-capitalised comments. It's like catch-all term for a stereotypical Big Brother/X Factor viewer, but I appreciate that it could be interpreted in different ways.

I'm intrigued about the voters thing though, because what if I do genuinely believe that the voters are 'clueless' and continually crown dullards as winners? In the same way I'm sure there's plenty of people who would consider the public crowning people like Helen/Aaron/Jim stupid or immoral. It's just an extension of whatever your preference of housemate is, surely? So where do you draw the line? Do we have to be approving of the public's choice of winner? What can and can't we say? I'm trying to word this as best as possible because I realise it could be misinterpreted, but I genuinely am curious about where the line is, because to size down in this way from 'the voting public' to members of this forum (even if people on this forum will be voters) on the face of it at least seems like it may restrict what we can say about the result. Like for example Labour voters have been chastised as being 'naive' or 'not knowing what they're voting for' which I obviously don't agree with but would defend their right to say it, in the same way I'd hold negative opinions about Tory voters. It's the same sort of thing I would've thought?

[Vicky.]

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[Headie]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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:laugh2:


Id also like to teach the world to sing



in, let me hasten to add, in perfect harmony

:love:

[Vicky.]

The voting thing we obviously tend to let go unless its obviously aimed at members tbh. Its just a bit of a catchall rule like most of our rules and it totally depends on context. Examples I guess would be maybe

'The voters are idiots. Why on earth did they save that bore' is fine
'Everyone who voted for that bore is an absolute idiot' would be bordeline
Replying to someone who said they voted for the bore 'you are an idiot for voting for him and have ruined the show' would be a rulebreak

This is why modding sometimes seems inconsistent tbh. Catch all rules do not always work as context and such has to be considered and sometimes we do get things wrong or misread something.

[Alf]

One night without Alf's Erection Section and all Hell breaks loose.

Don't worry, It'll be back tonight with it's message of love.

[Amy Jade]

I thought catlady was about people on facebook with cats as their dp too I never thought it was an insult as such kind of like the eviction crowd are refered to as a mob. I always thought it was very light hearted

[Jack_]

The voting thing we obviously tend to let go unless its obviously aimed at members tbh. Its just a bit of a catchall rule like most of our rules and it totally depends on context. Examples I guess would be maybe

'The voters are idiots. Why on earth did they save that bore' is fine
'Everyone who voted for that bore is an absolute idiot' would be bordeline
Replying to someone who said they voted for the bore 'you are an idiot for voting for him and have ruined the show' would be a rulebreak

This is why modding sometimes seems inconsistent tbh. Catch all rules do not always work as context and such has to be considered and sometimes we do get things wrong or misread something.

Oh that's understandable then, that's what I assumed the rules had been previously but just wanted clarification now it had been mentioned :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

One night without Alf's Erection Section and all Hell breaks loose.

Don't worry, It'll be back tonight with it's message of love.

:dance::dance::dance:

[Vicky.]

Oh that's understandable then, that's what I assumed the rules had been previously but just wanted clarification now it had been mentioned :laugh:

Rules basically are just..treat other members with respect, do not insult each other and do not go over the top with hating housemates. Make posts that actually contribute to conversations rather than just random 'she is a slag!!!1111' and such. And don't spam.

Its a shame that it all has to be spelled out separately for some (not saying you, just generally) and when its all written down its fairly confusing :laugh:

A huge problem with on season too I find anyway is being equal with stuff. Like, older members I tend to know their personalities and know when they are just joking, but a new member would see that post and take it seriously and report. Then we have the situation of...if we let it go then the newbies think we are favoring older members and see older members getting away with stuff so copy...then they end up punished as their post does NOT come across as a joke. Then we have 'X did this and got away with it and I did the same and got banned' and that.

****ing minefield really. But I genuinely do not think this year has been anywhere near as bad as it usually is.

[caprimint]

I wouldn't care about being called a 'catlady' tbh because cats slay, but it's obvious that some people use it to describe the older women who all support/vote for a particular housemate and I think it's slyly used as digs at people on here but use the 'it's just on fb' as a cover-up

Also :worship: @ Vicky for all the explanations

[Withano]

I dont think Ive ever used the phrase facebook catladies, but I never saw it as an insult..
I've always found DS to have a more serious demographic, Twitter to have a younger demographic, Tibb to have a camper demographic, and Facebook to have a more older, female demographic.. and each of those four usually tend to have different opinions to one another. I just assumed it was the nickname to describe the typical Facebook point of view...
they appeared to be the majority of Jason fans, whilst tibb preferred Jayne, Twitter preferred Evelyn and DS preferred Andy - with Hughie getting a little bit of love all round, and I have no idea where Jackson got his votes
So when people use the term facebook cat ladies, I assume they mean people who typically prefer Jason-like characters... whereas if somebody mentioned the twitter-crowd, I'd assume they'd be talking about fans of the more model/reality star housemates.
Maybe they need a new nickname but Ive never seen the harm in it personally

[Headie]

If you want to think that that's fine, but my use of the word is not directed at people on here :)

Discussions a bit pointless anyway since the words banned from being used now

[Headie]

From now on Facebook Hags will be the go-to term

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[chuff me dizzy]

Yes this is a big problem too actually.

There was an example of this just last night. One member posted something and was reported by a couple of people within seconds. A few mins later another member posted EXACTLY the same thing and no reports or anything despite the same people that reported the first one replying to the second one

Wow ,its time this was clamped down on and stopped

[Kazanne]

Ah alright. You're allowed to call young women "slags" and "*****s", because that's how it's always been. It's not on. It's disgusting. You're supposed to be setting an example.

I have not called them slags ,I called them slappers once,and that is because they were acting like slappers, and why should I be setting an example ? I'm not perfect ,nor profess to be, we are all adult well supposed to be so,don't place the blame on me for other peoples reactions, don't come here pretending you are a saint,because you are not.

[chuff me dizzy]

Also hostile mods don't help at all.

:clap1:

[Kazanne]

From now on Facebook Hags will be the go-to term

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That's even more offensive than catladies:shrug: why cant you just call people ,'people' as that is what they are.

[Headie]

That's even more offensive than catladies:shrug: why cant you just call people ,'people' as that is what they are.

The irony of this post

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[Kazanne]

The irony of this post

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No irony,I cannot see the point of calling the voting public names,they are NOT in the house

[Headie]

No irony,I cannot see the point of calling the voting public names,they are NOT in the house

As you know the golden rule is "do not discuss members", something which people are happy to remind others of all the time when it suits them.

[Vicky.]

I actually can't see the point in stereotyping facebook voters with insulting names. If talking about facebook voters why not just say...facebook voters? I also don't get how they are all lumped together as if one entity. Even 'facebook voters' have different opinions and aren't going to be voting for the same person :shrug:

I have barely been on facebook this season but I am guessing from the need to insult the people who are on there, most of them favour 'the clique' over the 'outsiders'? And this is the need for the insults?

[Kazanne]

As you know the golden rule is "do not discuss members", something which people are happy to remind others of all the time when it suits them.

Eh? I am not discussing members,I am talking about the general public :shrug:

[Ashley.]

That's even more offensive than catladies:shrug: why cant you just call people ,'people' as that is what they are.

I have not called them slags ,I called them slappers once,and that is because they were acting like slappers, and why should I be setting an example ? I'm not perfect ,nor profess to be, we are all adult well supposed to be so,don't place the blame on me for other peoples reactions, don't come here pretending you are a saint,because you are not.

Same goes for you, then.

[arista]

Its the worst ever. I think because raph and his supporters. Just awful this year. Hence why I stick to DS


You can not blame Young Raph

[Headie]

Eh? I am not discussing members,I am talking about the general public :shrug:

As am I, so neither of us are breaking any rules

[Vicky.]

Whats the male equivalent of 'slapper'? 'Stud'? I ****ing hate these insults based on sex. though tbf I do use bitch a fair bit

[Kazanne]

Same goes for you, then.

I am just going to ignore you as you are just baiting now and you are just not getting it,so byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Ashley.]

:unsure:

[Kazanne]

Whats the male equivalent of 'slapper'? 'Stud'? I ****ing hate these insults based on sex. though tbf I do use bitch a fair bit

:hehe:I call my bestie a slapper sometimes,in dictionary terms it's not that bad I don't think,a promiscuous or vulgar woman. I suppose for a bloke it would be a stud,although we call guys slappers aswell :laugh: I've been a bit of a slapper myself back in the day:hehe:

[Lostie!]

The hate about Jason was not just a one off.

This post is an example of how people only see/care when it affects a housemate they like actually. Its all fair game if they dislike a housemate, all hate is fine, even ridiculous OTT hate like death threats is excused

Definitely wasn't. I remember various posts casually suggesting he's a domestic abuser. Some of the stuff said about Lateysha was definitely horrid but awful things were said on both sides of that ridiculous fan war.

And yeah, the whole "catladies" thing is annoying too.

[Vicky.]

Definitely wasn't. I remember various posts casually suggesting he's a domestic abuser. Some of the stuff said about Lateysha was definitely horrid but awful things were said on both sides of that ridiculous fan war.

And yeah, the whole "catladies" thing is annoying too.

This seems to happen every year with one male housemate. They are made out to be woman beaters and all sorts for...having an argument/disagreement with a female. The one I think that annoyed me most was Aaron in BB12...for no reason at all he was made out to be a thug (whilst jay was punching the floor and stuff in anger :S ) and even BOTS made him out to be a wifebeater. I believe it was Nicola McClean who said this with glee. All because Aaron said he did not like a dress Faye put on. It is bizarre the leaps people make and quite how far they are willing to go to discredit someone they dislike. Stuff like womanbeater can stay with someone for life, is it really worth labelling another person that simply as you dislike them in a TV show?!

[Greg!]

Okay girls, are you all ready for my Hot Take™?

Utter rot, theres one ringleader and the rest are sheep

Who do you think is the "one ringleader" because I'd genuinely like to know. It sounds to me like you just can't handle other people having different opinions to you, so you explain it as people being in some sort of conspiracy hostile clique.

You'll get over it.

Also, why are you kicking up a fuss about this when you don't seem too bothered when people call other members catladies? I'm pretty sure you have even used that phrase in the past too.

I've NEVER seen anyone call another member a cat lady, I've only ever seen it used in a lighthearted manner to describe the old women on facebook that support certain housemates.

Catladies is a mass insult and has been used to insult people on here before. The term causes issues every year and this year it has been worse so is being deleted/infracted. Its basically used to insult anyone who likes a housemate that the forum does not. When an eviction result comes in too...'voters are utter idiots and only thinking with their penises saving X' or something is also against the rules as its a mass insult to people who vote, which includes people on the forum.

No offence but it's kind of a mess that posts calling housemates "slappers, slags, cumsluts, fat bitches" etc still remain on the forum but we're now apparently not allowed to try and explain why someone on Big Brother got a certain number of votes. Sometimes people DO vote by thinking with their penises and if I want to say that then I bloody well will.

From now on Facebook Hags will be the go-to term

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:joker:

I actually can't see the point in stereotyping facebook voters with insulting names. If talking about facebook voters why not just say...facebook voters?

Because it's a bit of fun and not nearly as offensive as some of the other things posted on here.

[Vicky.]

No offence but it's kind of a mess that posts calling housemates "slappers, slags, cumsluts, fat bitches" etc still remain on the forum but we're now apparently not allowed to try and explain why someone on Big Brother got a certain number of votes. Sometimes people DO vote by thinking with their penises and if I want to say that then I bloody well will.


Carry on but don't moan if you go to far and get banned :shrug:

I have tried to explain from a point of view as a mod, thats all. I did clarify a little further in the thread what I meant by this(which seems to have been accepted) but if you want to keep having this attitude, perfectly fine.

Also there is a difference between insulting members/voters and housemates. I personally don't agree with the slappers/sluts/whatever comments but a degree of insults is expected when you go on such a show. We cannot really disallow negative comments about housemates but we can enforce rules about insulting people who are not in the house.

[Nancy.]

Catladies is a mass insult and has been used to insult people on here before. The term causes issues every year and this year it has been worse so is being deleted/infracted. Its basically used to insult anyone who likes a housemate that the forum does not. When an eviction result comes in too...'voters are utter idiots and only thinking with their penises saving X' or something is also against the rules as its a mass insult to people who vote, which includes people on the forum.

I was going to respond to this thread earlier, but it's turned into such a mess, it's hard to know where to start.

Someone referred to me (along with a few others) as a "Cat lady" in here on Thursday, and that person is on this very page and still denying it. I've seen it used three times in the past week alone, so I have no idea why some say it's mostly aimed at those on FB. Maybe the reason why some don't find it offensive is because it isn't directed at them and it's coming from a member from their clique?

I'd also like to add that whenever an eviction result comes in, I usually stay away from TIBB to avoid any sort of confrontation, but upon visiting the forum on Friday morning, it was full of Isobelle supporters in Lotan threads gloating and expressing their joy with a display of gifs and smilies. This kind of behaviour needs nipping in the bud - and on both sides. At the end of the day, all this childish nonsense needs to stop and people need to grow up and get over themselves, (myself included). It would be nice if we could all get along, but it's never going to happen. The mods have made their points clear, so we should all now be aware of what's tolerated and what isn't. No excuses.

[Greg!]

Carry on but don't moan if you go to far and get banned :shrug:

I have tried to explain from a point of view as a mod, thats all. I did clarify a little further in the thread what I meant by this(which seems to have been accepted) but if you want to keep having this attitude, perfectly fine.

Also there is a difference between insulting members/voters and housemates. I personally don't agree with the slappers/sluts/whatever comments but a degree of insults is expected when you go on such a show. We cannot really disallow negative comments about housemates but we can enforce rules about insulting people who are not in the house.

Firstly I wasn't trying to have an attitude so sorry if it came across that way.

Also I accept that we shouldn't go too far when talking about voters/viewers and I'll try not to. But I also hope that some of the more extreme comments about housemates will be dealt with properly because not only are they nasty and unnecessary but they cause reactions from people and bring the whole mood of the forum down.

[caprimint]

I'd also like to add that whenever an eviction result comes in, I usually stay away from TIBB to avoid any sort of confrontation, but upon visiting the forum on Friday morning, it was full of Isobelle supporters in Lotan threads gloating and expressing their joy with a display of gifs and smilies. This kind of behaviour needs nipping in the bud - and on both sides. At the end of the day, all this childish nonsense needs to stop and people need to grow up and get over themselves, (myself included). It would be nice if we could all get along, but it's never going to happen. The mods have made their points clear, so we should all now be aware of what's tolerated and what isn't. No excuses.
Yeah I agree with this, it was just blatant baiting and I think the rules should remain in those "get _____ out" threads as they do with fan threads, that only support/fans should be allowed to post in there. I didn't report however because I don't generally ever report things as I rarely feel strongly enough to, just think it was a bit immature.

[Kazanne]

I was going to respond to this thread earlier, but it's turned into such a mess, it's hard to know where to start.

Someone referred to me (along with a few others) as a "Cat lady" in here on Thursday, and that person is on this very page and still denying it. I've seen that word used three times in the past week alone, so I have no idea why some say it's mostly aimed at those on FB. Maybe the reason why some don't find it offensive is because it isn't directed at them and it's coming from a member from their clique?

I'd also like to add that whenever an eviction result comes in, I usually stay away from TIBB to avoid any sort of confrontation, but upon visiting the forum on Friday morning, it was full of Isobelle supporters in Lotan threads gloating and expressing their joy with a display of gifs and smilies. This kind of behaviour needs nipping in the bud - and on both sides. At the end of the day, all this childish nonsense needs to stop and people need to grow up and get over themselves, (myself included). It would be nice if we could all get along, but it's never going to happen. The mods have made their points clear, so we should all now be aware of what's tolerated and what isn't. No excuses.

:clap1::clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Okay girls, are you all ready for my Hot Take™?



Who do you think is the "one ringleader" because I'd genuinely like to know. It sounds to me like you just can't handle other people having different opinions to you, so you explain it as people being in some sort of conspiracy hostile clique.



I've NEVER seen anyone call another member a cat lady, I've only ever seen it used in a lighthearted manner to describe the old women on facebook that support certain housemates.



No offence but it's kind of a mess that posts calling housemates "slappers, slags, cumsluts, fat bitches" etc still remain on the forum but we're now apparently not allowed to try and explain why someone on Big Brother got a certain number of votes. Sometimes people DO vote by thinking with their penises and if I want to say that then I bloody well will.



:joker:



Because it's a bit of fun and not nearly as offensive as some of the other things posted on here.

My opinion and its been born out on here year after year, it doesn't take a lot of working out, Im proud to think for myself and speak for myself, I follow no one and its nice .....maybe others should try it

[Vicky.]

Firstly I wasn't trying to have an attitude so sorry if it came across that way.

Also I accept that we shouldn't go too far when talking about voters/viewers and I'll try not to. But I also hope that some of the more extreme comments about housemates will be dealt with properly because not only are they nasty and unnecessary but they cause reactions from people and bring the whole mood of the forum down.

There have been a few people banned recently for extreme insults.

The problem we have is its not really an extreme insult to call someone a slapper or something. If the post is just filled with a load of hate, it will be dealt with however if its just a normal post that says slapper in it then thats not actually breaking the rules, as annoying as it is

Your post did come across as extremely defensive and with an attitude, if it wasn't meant that way then fair enough :p

Also what Nancy. said is true. This is why we have decided to just ban the whole catladies thing. It was being used by various members to insult members on here. yes some use it to stereotype facebook voters but a few use it as a way to insult members and get away with it. As such, its easier to just ban it alltogether. Its a useless term anyway tbh..as I said earlier facebook voters aren't a hive mind, they have different opinions and just lumping them all togehter as most of them dislike housemates that the forum likes is a bit silly. If the opinion on facebook was that the 'outsiders' were fabulous, catladies wouldn't be used. Kind of like how twitter users are usually insulted and 'they talk crap, horrible opinions' 'teenyboppers voting for the hot guy' and such but since this year twitter seem more favorable towards this forums chosen ones, the insults towards them have stopped too. 'Catladies' 'teenyboppers' etc is just a way of writing off a whole bunch of viewers' opinions just because they don't match the forums chosen ones. Its quite childish tbh

In short as I know that was fairly long...catladies has been used to insult forum members, members doing this thought they were being sly about it but they weren't, and the term is now banned as many have found out recently when they used it after finding out that it was banned.

[smudgie]

:hehe:I call my bestie a slapper sometimes,in dictionary terms it's not that bad I don't think,a promiscuous or vulgar woman. I suppose for a bloke it would be a stud,although we call guys slappers aswell :laugh: I've been a bit of a slapper myself back in the day:hehe:

Me too Kaz.
A Happy Slapper can have so much fun.:laugh:

[Kazanne]

Me too Kaz.
A Happy Slapper can have so much fun.:laugh:

Too true smudgie,happy days :cheer2::joker:

[Vicky.]

I was going to respond to this thread earlier, but it's turned into such a mess, it's hard to know where to start.

Someone referred to me (along with a few others) as a "Cat lady" in here on Thursday, and that person is on this very page and still denying it. I've seen that word used three times in the past week alone, so I have no idea why some say it's mostly aimed at those on FB. Maybe the reason why some don't find it offensive is because it isn't directed at them and it's coming from a member from their clique?

I'd also like to add that whenever an eviction result comes in, I usually stay away from TIBB to avoid any sort of confrontation, but upon visiting the forum on Friday morning, it was full of Isobelle supporters in Lotan threads gloating and expressing their joy with a display of gifs and smilies. This kind of behaviour needs nipping in the bud - and on both sides. At the end of the day, all this childish nonsense needs to stop and people need to grow up and get over themselves, (myself included). It would be nice if we could all get along, but it's never going to happen. The mods have made their points clear, so we should all now be aware of what's tolerated and what isn't. No excuses.

Heh. Getting along on season just never will happen as people get so passionate about their faves. But it is possible to respect each other whilst disagreeing. Its possible to debate house stuff without being insulting towards other members :)

[chuff me dizzy]

I was going to respond to this thread earlier, but it's turned into such a mess, it's hard to know where to start.

Someone referred to me (along with a few others) as a "Cat lady" in here on Thursday, and that person is on this very page and still denying it. I've seen that word used three times in the past week alone, so I have no idea why some say it's mostly aimed at those on FB. Maybe the reason why some don't find it offensive is because it isn't directed at them and it's coming from a member from their clique?

I'd also like to add that whenever an eviction result comes in, I usually stay away from TIBB to avoid any sort of confrontation, but upon visiting the forum on Friday morning, it was full of Isobelle supporters in Lotan threads gloating and expressing their joy with a display of gifs and smilies. This kind of behaviour needs nipping in the bud - and on both sides. At the end of the day, all this childish nonsense needs to stop and people need to grow up and get over themselves, (myself included). It would be nice if we could all get along, but it's never going to happen. The mods have made their points clear, so we should all now be aware of what's tolerated and what isn't. No excuses.

"Cat lady" is used often and is nothing whatsoever to do with Facebook, its an attack on other fans of hm8s and has been for years and yes i know who it was ,but of course they wont admit to it .....I usually avoid eviction night and as you say reading though the thread the next morning makes me glad I did, as i said earlier the mods need to get a grip on here before there is only the "clique" left on here

[Greg!]

My opinion and its been born out on here year after year, it doesn't take a lot of working out, Im proud to think for myself and speak for myself, I follow no one and its nice .....maybe others should try it

I'm curious to know who you think people are "following" and who the "ringleader" is. Kind of pointless to say things and not back it up.

[Alf]

People have lost their thick skins, since bullying was outlawed from the School playground.

Far too much mollycoddling these days.

Bring back bullying, it's for the best in the long run, and it doesn't create adult children.

[Greg!]

as i said earlier the mods need to get a grip on here before there is only the "clique" left on here

Aka ban people that have a different opinion from yourself :joker: :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm curious to know who you think people are "following" and who the "ringleader" is. Kind of pointless to say things and not back it up.

You know I cannot name names ,so please stop goading

[chuff me dizzy]

Heh. Getting along on season just never will happen as people get so passionate about their faves. But it is possible to respect each other whilst disagreeing. Its possible to debate house stuff without being insulting towards other members :)

If only !! :joker:

[Vicky.]

Aka ban people that have a different opinion from yourself :joker: :joker:

Well lets be honest, this is what most members seem to want. Want us to get tough on insults, but if we were as tough as they want us to be, yes the members they want banned would be banned, but they would also likely be banned themselves.

Anyway, this discussion is very much needed and I think its going relatively well so far so can members stop sniping at each other and making this personal as I don't want to have to close this thread D:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

what's wrong with being called cat lady? i would see that as a compliment personally, cats are fab :dance:

[Shaun]

For me personally it's been a challenging season just because of the obvious problem of "having a friend in there" and the token judging and overreactions and fabrications of his character that goes with it. I'm sure I've been guilty of some wrong judgments of HMs in the past but when it's the same kind of OTT, borderline obsessive hatred, it becomes a chore to browse the place.

I couldn't care less about the fans of HMs stuff, the catladies/weaves whatever, I'm just bored of the trolling.

[Niamh.]

what's wrong with being called cat lady? i would see that as a compliment personally, cats are fab :dance:
Yes Indeed, I'm a proud cat lady :flutter:

[Lostie!]

Yes Indeed, I'm a proud cat lady :flutter:

When I see a cat sitter job on Indeed.

[Vicky.]

I have a cat and am a lady (sometimes) but lets not pretend cat lady is a term of endearment rather than a 'lives alone and has 200 cats' type insult :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

For me personally it's been a challenging season just because of the obvious problem of "having a friend in there" and the token judging and overreactions and fabrications of his character that goes with it. I'm sure I've been guilty of some wrong judgments of HMs in the past but when it's the same kind of OTT, borderline obsessive hatred, it becomes a chore to browse the place.

I couldn't care less about the fans of HMs stuff, the catladies/weaves whatever, I'm just bored of the trolling.

So are you saying you've never posted great dislike/hate towards a hm8 ever?

[chuff me dizzy]

I HATE cats with a passion I'm terrified of them

[Wizard.]

NOT me getting infracted for using the term 'catlady' when I am MISS Selena Kyle tyvm

[LukeB]

i've used cat lady before but i didn't think it's an insult because why would it be offensive?

but yeah there's so much trolling and appearance insults on housemates and each year it gets more annoying. their looks have nothing to do with big brother we should comment on their actions, commenting on looks is nasty, i'm sure many people have done it but some can change their ways and realise what they said is wrong.

This is why BBCan/BBusa is my favourite sub-forum because hardly any trolling happens and no words such as slut etc are used. it's a friendly sub-forum compared to the uk sub-forum.

[Vicky.]

For me personally it's been a challenging season just because of the obvious problem of "having a friend in there" and the token judging and overreactions and fabrications of his character that goes with it. I'm sure I've been guilty of some wrong judgments of HMs in the past but when it's the same kind of OTT, borderline obsessive hatred, it becomes a chore to browse the place.

I couldn't care less about the fans of HMs stuff, the catladies/weaves whatever, I'm just bored of the trolling.

Yes its obviously hard having a friend in there and seeing negative stuff about them.

I was crapping myself for this years as my husband was going to apply and I didn't think I could handle it. Oddly enough if I went on I would love reading all the negative stuff about myself but pretty sure I would be getting banned myself if I saw hate towards my husband like :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Unfortunately insulting appearances happens every year. I hate it myself tbh but I guess its part and parcel of a show like BB.

I don't think this year has been as bad as usual tbh. Some of the Isabelle hate got a bit too much a few days back but its all generally a lot worse than this.

The Isabelle abuse was a bit much, but other than that I've actually been alot more relaxed this series than I have in other years as the abuse has been kept more towards their personality than their appearance.

[Niamh.]

I have a cat and am a lady (sometimes) but lets not pretend cat lady is a term of endearment rather than a 'lives alone and has 200 cats' type insult [emoji23]
[emoji23] I know

[Lostie!]

i've used cat lady before but i didn't think it's an insult because why would it be offensive?

It's only ever been an insult, way before it ever started being used on here

[Mystic Mock]

Its the worst ever. I think because raph and his supporters. Just awful this year. Hence why I stick to DS

You do realise that Raph is the Forum favourite on DS don't you?:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

It's only ever been an insult, way before it ever started being used on here

Its always been known to be an insult,and nothing to do with Facebook

[Nancy.]

The Isabelle abuse was a bit much, but other than that I've actually been alot more relaxed this series than I have in other years as the abuse has been kept more towards their personality than their appearance.

I don't agree. It was mild compared to what other hm's had received over the years.

[Nancy.]

I HATE cats with a passion I'm terrified of them

Me too, and that's the irony. :laugh:

[Kazanne]

Tbh,Isabelle does leave herself open for negative commentsre her look,,even BOTS have been doing it,so it's not just here.

[Marsh.]

i've used cat lady before but i didn't think it's an insult because why would it be offensive?

Oh bugger off. Why would you say it if it wasn't meant as an insult?

Because let's face it, if it was meant literally it makes zero sense. "Everyone who owns a cat is ______" makes no sense.

Whereas insulting a woman of a certain age (possibly single) as "cat lady". The "Cat ladies always vote for the hot younger man" etc.

How can it possibly not be offensive? :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

The Lateysha hate was absoloutely disgusting. People slating her as a parent, not even as a role model as Lotan has been I am talking full on 'fat bitch needs to go look after her kids' level and 'bet her daughter is so proud of the fat cow'.

I love Chanelle but she doesn't get it half as bad as Lateysha last year. I hated the forum at points it was that horrible to see people attacking her as a parent.

The worst parent insults were towards Luisa, Perez, and Helen Wood I thought.

No matter what anyone thinks of those people, we don't know what they're like as parents and it's incredibly personal to go that far imo, especially some of the comments that I remember being posted about Luisa and Perez.

[chuff me dizzy]

You cannot walk about looking as Isabelle looks and talking filth talk as she and Chanelle do and not expect to be criticised for it ,they leave themselves open to it

[LukeB]

Oh bugger off. Why would you say it if it wasn't meant as an insult?

Because let's face it, if it was meant literally it makes zero sense. "Everyone who owns a cat is ______" makes no sense.

Whereas insulting a woman of a certain age (possibly single) as "cat lady". The "Cat ladies always vote for the hot younger man" etc.

How can it possibly not be offensive? :joker:

Because maybe some people have different reasons why they use it like Hayden said with the OTT hate comments on facebook. i don't use it for an insult because it doesn't seem offensive to me and there's nothing wrong with cat ladies at all. they could be called a lot worst. but appearance attacks and slut shaming are a lot worse on here.

[Kazanne]

You cannot walk about looking as Isabelle looks and talking filth talk as she and Chanelle do and not expect to be criticised for it ,they leave themselves open to it

This is right if we are honest,I have often been out and about and seen someone and thought "Look at the state" we have all done it .

[chuff me dizzy]

This is right if we are honest,I have often been out and about and seen someone and thought "Look at the state" we have all done it,

Yes ,everyone I'm sure does the same thing, she looks weird with all that slapped on her mush !! and if you sat next to someone who spoke filth as Issa and Chann do you would think they were gutter trash

[chuff me dizzy]

Because maybe some people have different reasons why they use it like Hayden said with the OTT hate comments on facebook. i don't use it for an insult because it doesn't seem offensive to me and there's nothing wrong with cat ladies at all. they could be called a lot worst. but appearance attacks and slut shaming are a lot worse on here.

It was always about the context it was used in, clearly an insult by EVERYONE who used it, if you can't own it,don't do it

[Vicky.]

Tbh,Isabelle does leave herself open for negative commentsre her look,,even BOTS have been doing it,so it's not just here.

Thats not really a defense. BOTS are terrible and as an example I sued before, BOTS were perfectly fine to call Aaron a womanbeater just because he said he didn't like a dress Faye put on :umm2:

I do not think insulting the ridiculous tan or makeup is an issue at all. That is expected. Its when it goes over the top..eg. look at all that slap on her mush, she looks like a dirty street rat, but I guess she needs all that makeup to hide her disgusting face thats riddled with disease, what a slut. Or something.

[Headie]

This is right if we are honest,I have often been out and about and seen someone and thought "Look at the state" we have all done it .

why cant you just call people ,'people' as that is what they are.

PICK A SIDE AND BE A WOMAN /Kim

[Vicky.]

I genuinely would like to know what all of these people who thought cat ladies wasn't meant to be offensive..what did you think it actually meant? I am fairly sure everyone didn't think it was just women on Facebook who have cats as a profile picture as one member said (I can believe one member thought that, but no way did all who use it think that)

The context its used in too...how on earth is it not an insult :laugh:

[Jack_]

Nobody asks for or leaves themselves open to attacks on their appearances, regardless of what they look like. If a child were being bullied and you used this excuse, it would be victim blaming.

It doesn't matter whether you don't like Isabelle's tan or the fact she wears revealing clothes, that doesn't justify anyone calling her a 'slag' or a 'slapper' or mocking her for it. Yes she has been self deprecating on several occasions and that's to her credit, but she's entitled to do that because it is her appearance. I don't like Tom that much or find him attractive, but I don't stoop to attacking him for it - I stick to talking about his character (or lack of it), because it's Big Brother and not Next Top Model.

I just think people should put themselves in someone else's shoes. If a friend or a loved one of yours went into the house, would you really like seeing them being called a 'slut' or having the way they look insulted? When it's completely irrelevant to what they're like as housemates? I don't think many people would. At the end of the day while people put themselves up to be judged on a TV show, they do so on one that is about personalities and not aesthetics. They are still human, it's just a programme we watch for 48 minutes a night, there's no excuses for such vitriol. None whatsoever.

[LukeB]

It was always about the context it was used in, clearly an insult by EVERYONE who used it, if you can't own it,don't do it

depending on how they use it.

[Niamh.]

I genuinely would like to know what all of these people who thought cat ladies wasn't meant to be offensive..what did you think it actually meant? I am fairly sure everyone didn't think it was just women on Facebook who have cats as a profile picture as one member said (I can believe one member thought that, but no way did all who use it think that)

The context its used in too...how on earth is it not an insult [emoji23]
Clearly it means a single older woman who only has cats for company, anyo e who uses it and pretends not to know that is a liar

[Kazanne]

PICK A SIDE AND BE A WOMAN /Kim

I was giving an example of what we are all like,when we see people like Isabelle for example,the ' cat ladies ' thing is totally different as that is an insult to a vast amount of people we don't even see .

[LukeB]

Nobody asks for or leaves themselves open to attacks on their appearances, regardless of what they look like. If a child were being bullied and you used this excuse, it would be victim blaming.

It doesn't matter whether you don't like Isabelle's tan or the fact she wears revealing clothes, that doesn't justify anyone calling her a 'slag' or a 'slapper' or mocking her for it. Yes she has been self deprecating on several occasions and that's to her credit, but she's entitled to do that because it is her appearance. I don't like Tom that much or find him attractive, but I don't stoop to attacking him for it - I stick to talking about his character (or lack of it), because it's Big Brother and not Next Top Model.

I just think people should put themselves in someone else's shoes. If a friend or a loved one of yours went into the house, would you really like seeing them being called a 'slut' or having the way they look insulted? When it's completely irrelevant to what they're like as housemates? I don't think many people would. At the end of the day while people put themselves up to be judged on a TV show, they do so on one that is about personalities and not aesthetics. They are still human, it's just a programme we watch for 48 minutes a night, there's no excuses for such vitriol. None whatsoever.

Exactly this :clap1: they are there to be judged on their actions and not their looks.

This years wasn't as bad but soon as Isabelle entered the abuse towards her was way too much and the appearance attacks got worse on Chanelle too. i just don't get it why is their looks relevant on big brother when big brother is about people and what they do and not their looks?

[LukeB]

And another thing with slut shaming..Kieran revealed he has slept with 350 people and he has not been called a slut they way Isabelle has. which is really annoying.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't agree. It was mild compared to what other hm's had received over the years.

Oh there's been worse over the years, in particular I thought that Lateysha and Jason weren't bad picks last year, I also thought that Hughie, Jackson, and Andy got it a bit rough in some circles.

But by this series standards Isabelle was definitely the nastiest for me and I'm obviously not supporting Isabelle if you look at who my favourite is.

[Vicky.]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:

Fat? That's such a silly thing to say. We're all fat, we all have fat on our bodies and it's a beautiful thing that should be embraced. It's because of posts like this that the word 'fat' starts to develop a negative connotation gearing society further and further into the 'slim and only slim mentality'. Not to mention the fact that I saw people say because he's 'ugly', like seriously? Big Brother is a personality contest and a psychological experiment. If you wanted to watch some beauty contest do so instead. Not to mention the fact that 'ugly' is such a ridiculous term -- who is anyone to call someone else ugly for their looks? Just is more of a representation of that person's personality than Jack's.

[Mystic Mock]

You cannot walk about looking as Isabelle looks and talking filth talk as she and Chanelle do and not expect to be criticised for it ,they leave themselves open to it

I get why you might be offended at Chanelle's comments, but what has Isabelle said that's been so vulgar that she gets the same comments as Chanelle?

[LukeB]

Fat? That's such a silly thing to say. We're all fat, we all have fat on our bodies and it's a beautiful thing that should be embraced. It's because of posts like this that the word 'fat' starts to develop a negative connotation gearing society further and further into the 'slim and only slim mentality'. Not to mention the fact that I saw people say because he's 'ugly', like seriously? Big Brother is a personality contest and a psychological experiment. If you wanted to watch some beauty contest do so instead. Not to mention the fact that 'ugly' is such a ridiculous term -- who is anyone to call someone else ugly for their looks? Just is more of a representation of that person's personality than Jack's.

Me when people call Chanelle fat

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I HATE cats with a passion

wow you're well and truly cancelled them miss

[Nancy.]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:




Well well well. I'm up to comment #5 so far and what an eye opener this is turning out to be.

[Jack_]

I just don't get the 'slut', 'slapper', 'slag' thing in general anyway. First and foremost they're misogynistic insults that are only ever directed at women (their very definitions denote they're about women too), when as Luke has just pointed out, Kieran, Tom and Joe have talked about sex and the number of women they've slept with, and have not had the same insults levelled at them?

Secondly, I just don't get why anyone cares about how many people others have slept with? Why does it matter and why does it define what kind of person they are? I just don't ~get it~, I've really never understood the relevance it has to anybody's character. If someone wants to sleep with 350 people, all power to you, it's your body and you can do what you want. Similarly if you wouldn't want to do that yourself that's fine, that's your personal preference. Why do we need to judge people for what goes on in people's private lives (I realise on a TV show it's shared but that's beside the point)?

What disheartens me the most is that it's usually women who level these insults at other women. Is the patriarchal order really that bad that you're using misogynistic insults towards members of your own sex? It just makes me despair.

[Vicky.]

I just don't get the 'slut', 'slapper', 'slag' thing in general anyway. First and foremost they're misogynistic insults that are only ever directed at women (their very definitions denote they're about women too), when as Luke has just pointed out, Kieran, Tom and Joe have talked about sex and the number of women they've slept with, and have not had the same insults levelled at them?

Secondly, I just don't get why anyone cares about how many people others have slept with? Why does it matter and why does it define what kind of person they are? I just don't ~get it~, I've really never understood the relevance it has to anybody's character. If someone wants to sleep with 350 people, all power to you, it's your body and you can do what you want. Similarly if you wouldn't want to do that yourself that's fine, that's your personal preference. Why do we need to judge people for what goes on in people's private lives (I realise on a TV show it's shared but that's beside the point)?

What disheartens me the most is that it's usually women who level these insults at other women. Is the patriarchal order really that bad that you're using misogynistic insults towards members of your own sex? It just makes me despair.
Indeed.

[Marsh.]

Because maybe some people have different reasons why they use it like Hayden said with the OTT hate comments on facebook. i don't use it for an insult because it doesn't seem offensive to me and there's nothing wrong with cat ladies at all. they could be called a lot worst. but appearance attacks and slut shaming are a lot worse on here.

I'm not saying it's the worst insult in the world but... it's still an insult.

People making OTT comments on Facebook and you calling them cat ladies can't be anything other than an insult. It's not a compliment is it? :joker:

[Vanessa]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:




Awww I liked Jack.

[Headie]

I was giving an example of what we are all like,when we see people like Isabelle for example,the ' cat ladies ' thing is totally different as that is an insult to a vast amount of people we don't even see .

One rule for some, another rule for others :idc:

[Niamh.]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:




Aw Raph :clap2: but yep some people complaining about it now were awful in there, you're right

[Mystic Mock]

Clearly it means a single older woman who only has cats for company, anyo e who uses it and pretends not to know that is a liar

I thought it meant an older lady that just votes for all of the attractive guys to win Reality Shows.

I've actually never used the term myself, but that's what I thought it meant.

[Marsh.]

I thought it meant an older lady that just votes for all of the attractive guys to win Reality Shows.

I've actually never used the term myself, but that's what I thought it meant.

Exactly. Single, lonely older woman voting for all the young guys she fancies. That much is obvious to anyone.

[Niamh.]

I thought it meant an older lady that just votes for all of the attractive guys to win Reality Shows.

I've actually never used the term myself, but that's what I thought it meant.
Yes it does but also they live with cats because they're single so cats are their only company which is why they vote for the young goodlooking guys. . Apparantly

[LukeB]

I'm not saying it's the worst insult in the world but... it's still an insult.

People making OTT comments on Facebook and you calling them cat ladies can't be anything other than an insult. It's not a compliment is it? :joker:

depends on how they use it tbh aka the context of it. I call my nan a cat lady and she laughs at it. but i will stop using it now since it can offend people :hee:

[Kazanne]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:





Well that was an eye opener Vicky,and yes kudos to Raph in there,poor Jack Some people have short memories.

This thread might just elevate Raph up into my top 5

[Mystic Mock]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:





Jack should've won that series imo.

[Marsh.]

depends on how they use it tbh aka the context of it. I call my nan a cat lady and she laughs at it. but i will stop using it now since it can offend people :hee:

So all those times a good looking guy in BB who's actually a twat gets saved from eviction and you say all the "cat ladies" were voting for him wasn't intended as an insult? :hee:

[Babayaro.]

When I see a cat sitter job on Indeed.

:joker::joker:

[caprimint]

Well well well. I'm up to comment #5 so far and what an eye opener this is turning out to be.
Yeah right? One of the people who are going off at others for commenting on housemates' looks. This was only 2yrs ago, I wonder how much you can change in that amount of time. :think:

[Lostie!]

depends on how they use it tbh aka the context of it. I call my nan a cat lady and she laughs at it. but i will stop using it now since it can offend people :hee:

Well yeah but it's usage on here isn't playful and good natured :laugh:

And the "we're not talking about anyone on here" defence doesn't really hold water when entire fanbases of certain housemates are derided as "cat ladies", I recall at one point it being said by someone that Jason was only popular with the cat ladies who spam voted. Well I liked Jason and was perfectly happy for him to win so I'm wondering where I, as a 24 year old guy, fall on the cat lady scale

[LukeB]

So all those times a good looking guy in BB who's actually a twat gets saved from eviction and you say all the "cat ladies" were voting for him wasn't intended as an insult? :hee:

I've said cat ladies not sure if i said ALL but no. cat ladies doesn't even mean that anyway and i've use used the term thirsty people on social saving the good looking people who are twats but i said i will stop using it now seeing as i know it's a big deal :hee:

[LukeB]

Well yeah but it's usage on here isn't playful and good natured :laugh:

And the "we're not talking about anyone on here" defence doesn't really hold water when entire fanbases of certain housemates are derided as "cat ladies", I recall at one point it being said by someone that Jason was only popular with the cat ladies who spam voted. Well I liked Jason and was perfectly happy for him to win so I'm wondering where I, as a 24 year old guy, fall on the cat lady scale

is it used a lot on here though? i hardly see that term on tibb.

[Marsh.]

I've said cat ladies not sure if i said ALL but no. cat ladies doesn't even mean that anyway and i've use used the term thirsty people on social saving the good looking people who are twats but i said i will stop using it now seeing as i know it's a big deal :hee:

You're a LIAR BAB

[Lostie!]

is it used a lot on here though? i hardly see that term on tibb.

Yes, it's used frequently nowadays, that's why it's being discussed :laugh:

[LukeB]

Yes, it's used frequently nowadays, that's why it's being discussed :laugh:

out of all the things that are said on here i've only seen the cat ladies term 5% of the time and the rest are appearance attacks and slut shaming. I wish i could be a cat lady tbh.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes it does but also they live with cats because they're single so cats are their only company which is why they vote for the young goodlooking guys. . Apparantly

That explains the Cat part.:joker:

[Headie]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:





I'm loving Raph as a housemate but lets not make out he's the perfect member who can do no wrong :laugh: He constantly talked bad about BBUS18 housemate Natalie for having fake tits etc.

But that's off topic so lets not get into that

[Vicky.]

I'm loving Raph as a housemate but lets not make out he's the perfect member who can do no wrong :laugh: He constantly talked bad about BBUS18 housemate Natalie for having fake tits etc.

But that's off topic so lets not get into that

Oh jesus christ no. Just that post was great :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Well yeah but it's usage on here isn't playful and good natured :laugh:

And the "we're not talking about anyone on here" defence doesn't really hold water when entire fanbases of certain housemates are derided as "cat ladies", I recall at one point it being said by someone that Jason was only popular with the cat ladies who spam voted. Well I liked Jason and was perfectly happy for him to win so I'm wondering where I, as a 24 year old guy, fall on the cat lady scale

Generalisations can be stupid to go by sometimes as I liked Hughie last year and I think that he was associated as a "gay man's favourite" yet I'm a 21 year old straight male who supported him.

So imo you standout for not fitting a generalisation. That obviously doesn't mean be awkward for the sake of being awkward either.:joker:

[LukeB]

I'm loving Raph as a housemate but lets not make out he's the perfect member who can do no wrong :laugh: He constantly talked bad about BBUS18 housemate Natalie for having fake tits etc.

But that's off topic so lets not get into that

on Raph's defence he didn't hate her for having fake tits, he talked bad about her because she lied about sexual harassment which is disgusting and disrespectful to actual victims, he did use that word but thats not why he talked **** about her.

[Mystic Mock]

on Raph's defence he didn't hate her for having fake tits, he talked bad about her because she lied about sexual harassment which is disgusting and disrespectful to actual victims, he did use that word but thats not why he talked **** about her.

Did she make it up about one of the other Housemates? I didn't watch this series so I'm curious?

[Headie]

on Raph's defence he didn't hate her for having fake tits, he talked bad about her because she lied about sexual harassment which is disgusting and disrespectful to actual victims, he did use that word but thats not why he talked **** about her.

It's all tit for tat really (pardon the pun), if you're offended by someone (housemate, member, viewer etc.) your initial response is to offend them back, think that's what most of the thread is getting at

[Jack_]

I'd forgotten about the Jack stuff actually, I've just read through a load of old threads and it continued in that vein. I pointed out in a couple of them that he was constantly in a position where he couldn't win support on this forum - on launch night he was derided as someone who was gonna play up the 'bubbly' persona and not really do much and still win. And then, when he was the complete opposite (and hysterical with it, btw) he was still hated. I maintain a lot of that was due to his appearance.

There's absolutely double standards and inconsistency on this forum, the same people who were criticising Lateysha's hate were calling Jason a 'thug' and a 'beast' and those who criticised that were calling Lateysha a 'whale'. I just find it all so pathetic, and furthermore it is just childish, why can't we just discuss housemate's characters...that is the point of the show?

[Nancy.]

is it used a lot on here though? i hardly see that term on tibb.

Are you joking?

Posted by LukeB:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9201418&postcount=6

Posted by LukeB:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9385472&postcount=245

Posted by Greg!:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9318043&postcount=60

Posted by Greg!:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9335544&postcount=26

Posted by Greg!:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9404017&postcount=119

Posted by Amy Jade:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9391863&postcount=15

Posted by BBUKAUSFAN:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9413493&postcount=8

Posted by: Hayden:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9405902&postcount=72

Posted by Epic.:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9400399&postcount=4

Posted by Cal.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9395257&postcount=21

Posted by Germyle:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9394405&postcount=12

Posted by EspeonBB:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9388779&postcount=210

Posted by Jordan.:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9386021&postcount=580

Posted by Jason.:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9354757&postcount=142

and that's just for starters....there's plenty more where those came from...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/search.php?searchid=10990109&pp=25

[Headie]

I still use cat ladies on other forums/social media tbh, I respect that it's banned on here so I won't use it on here again but it won't stop me from using it elsewhere or IRL :laugh: I don't see the harm in it but if it is offending people on here then I do get why it's better to ban the use of the word.

[Mystic Mock]

I'd forgotten about the Jack stuff actually, I've just read through a load of old threads and it continued in that vein. I pointed out in a couple of them that he was constantly in a position where he couldn't win support on this forum - on launch night he was derided as someone who was gonna play up the 'bubbly' persona and not really do much and still win. And then, when he was the complete opposite (and hysterical with it, btw) he was still hated. I maintain a lot of that was due to his appearance.

There's absolutely double standards and inconsistency on this forum, the same people who were criticising Lateysha's hate were calling Jason a 'thug' and a 'beast' and those who criticised that were calling Lateysha a 'whale'. I just find it all so pathetic, and furthermore it is just childish, why can't we just discuss housemate's characters...that is the point of the show?

Jack was a good Housemate I'll agree with you on that Jack.

I noticed he was getting better responses on here when people realised that Chloe had took the role that people was worried that Jack was gonna take, but he was never gonna be a Forum favourite because he was overweight, and the general public are never nice about the Jack's of the show anyway so he was lucky to bag 4th place.

[JerseyWins]

It's 2017... let the cat ladies live.

[Mystic Mock]

It's 2017... let the cat ladies live.

But what about the Dog Ladies?

[Amy Jade]

Clearly it means a single older woman who only has cats for company, anyo e who uses it and pretends not to know that is a liar

I can swear to you I thought it meant the women on facebook with animals as their dp who attack women for their looks and praise the men.

[Marsh.]

I can swear to you I thought it meant the women on facebook with animals as their dp who attack women for their looks and praise the men.

That would still be an insult though wouldn't it? As it's intended to "drag" these women in a negative way for them being nasty or whatever.

[Beso]

The trick is to get on everyones nerves enough that they then put you on ignore..do this to everyone and its like you have the forum to yourself.:dance:

[Kazanne]

Are you joking?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9201418&postcount=6

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9385472&postcount=245

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9318043&postcount=60

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9335544&postcount=26

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9413493&postcount=8

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9405902&postcount=72

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9404017&postcount=119

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9400399&postcount=4

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9395257&postcount=21

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9394405&postcount=12

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9391863&postcount=15

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9388779&postcount=210

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9386021&postcount=580

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9354757&postcount=142

and that's just for starters....there's plenty more where those came from...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/search.php?searchid=10990109&pp=25

And there it all is in black and white.

[Kazanne]

That would still be an insult though wouldn't it? As it's intended to "drag" these women in a negative way for them being nasty or whatever.

:laugh: at people making out they didn't know it was an insult,if that was true why use it in a negative way:wavey:

[Cherie]

Because calling people catladies is exactly the type of baiting that you spoke out against. It's hypocritical.

This whole forum is a god damn hypocritical mess tbh, we get told repeatedly that we need to be tougher but the people saying that only want us to get tough on people they don't happen to like, if THEY just so happen to get infracted for the same thing then we're being biased or we're ignoring something or some other bull**** reason. People only want us to take a hard stance when it benefits them.

:clap2:

[Chero]

I thought cat ladies meant women who acted catty, which is like a character trait, right? Though honestly, I never really noticed it used. I guess that I decide if a thread is likely to be something I'm interested in by the headline, so I must have accidentally missed the ones where everyone was trolling.

But it did remind me of several years ago, when I had live feeds for the US show, and they had these chat rooms. And there were some chat rooms that would ban you if you didn't like this woman Janelle. For some reason, I just never cared for her, but I mean, I had to be careful if and where I said it!

That said, I try not to take Big Brother forums/chats, etc, too seriously. I mean, c'mon, it's a game show!

[Cherie]

I wouldn't care about being called a 'catlady' tbh because cats slay, but it's obvious that some people use it to describe the older women who all support/vote for a particular housemate and I think it's slyly used as digs at people on here but use the 'it's just on fb' as a cover-up

Also :worship: @ Vicky for all the explanations

:clap2:

[chuff me dizzy]

Clearly it means a single older woman who only has cats for company, anyo e who uses it and pretends not to know that is a liar

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:





Wow !! bloody hypocrites !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Are you joking?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9201418&postcount=6

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9385472&postcount=245

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9318043&postcount=60

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9335544&postcount=26

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9413493&postcount=8

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9405902&postcount=72

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9404017&postcount=119

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9400399&postcount=4

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9395257&postcount=21

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9394405&postcount=12

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9391863&postcount=15

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9388779&postcount=210

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9386021&postcount=580

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9354757&postcount=142

and that's just for starters....there's plenty more where those came from...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/search.php?searchid=10990109&pp=25

The hypocrisy and lies told by so many !! Thanks for digging this out Nancy :clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Cherie]

I actually can't see the point in stereotyping facebook voters with insulting names. If talking about facebook voters why not just say...facebook voters? I also don't get how they are all lumped together as if one entity. Even 'facebook voters' have different opinions and aren't going to be voting for the same person :shrug:

I have barely been on facebook this season but I am guessing from the need to insult the people who are on there, most of them favour 'the clique' over the 'outsiders'? And this is the need for the insults?

On the appearance thing...just came across this thread from a while back that was probably one of the worst for appearance based insults.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277229

But because its directed at a male its fine

A lot who are complaining about appearance insults this year actually posted in that thread..and joined in with the taunting about 'fat and virgin'

Looking back on it now I can't believe we didn't ban people for their attitudes in there actually. I often get shocked at just how horrible members can be when I look at old threads.

Edit. Raph in that thread :worship:





Wow !! bloody hypocrites !!


:joker:

[Black Dagger]

So we just have 7 pages over people whining at being called cat ladies while we have trolls getting away with murder all this series. Good to know.

[y.winter]

The baiting against cats should stop.

[Beso]

Are you joking?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9201418&postcount=6

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9385472&postcount=245

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9318043&postcount=60

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9335544&postcount=26

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9413493&postcount=8

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9405902&postcount=72

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9404017&postcount=119

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9400399&postcount=4

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9395257&postcount=21

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9394405&postcount=12

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9391863&postcount=15

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9388779&postcount=210

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9386021&postcount=580

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9354757&postcount=142

and that's just for starters....there's plenty more where those came from...
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/search.php?searchid=10990109&pp=25


You should change the links to the persons name.:shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

So we just have 7 pages over people whining at being called cat ladies while we have trolls getting away with murder all this series. Good to know.

This thread isn't just about people slyly being attacked using "cat ladies" its also about the double standards on here and the fact some people get away with what others get a ban for, and its time it was all brought into the open and thrashed out ,then stopped, there should be no rule for one and one for another, ALL members should be treat equally

[Ninastar]

Let the cats live!!