A BBUSA format in the UK - a possibility?

[T*]

Channel 5 seems to be experimenting more and more with some seemingly BBUSA aspects - The Void, backdoor evictions, housemates vote etc.
Channel 5 are owned by Viacom who I'm pretty sure are well connected and have a stake in CBS, the broadcaster of BBUSA.
Combine this with declining ratings and BBUSA seemingly getting an increase in worldwide interest, do you think there's a possibility that they may ecperiment with a whole series of BB with the BBUSA format? I think there may be.

[Vicky.]

I really need to watch one of the USA series. Its talked about so much and I have no idea about it besides apparently they don;t have a public vote and its all about gameplaying. I should like it as I tend to like the gameplayers in our series and fine it crap when someone coasts their way to the final then wins just for being quiet...

[T*]

The fact raph was cast as the game player and how he was clear with his interests in BBUSA and CAN might be part of this too, idk

[Jack_]

I honestly don't think so. Firstly C5 and the current production team don't have an ounce of sense between them, they don't even know how to execute a 'surprise' eviction let alone implementing a format change. And secondly, I'd imagine they rely on voting revenue even more so than they used to since it's so low.

They definitely should though, I cba getting into this debate again because it's been done ad nauseum on here and goes around in circles but my only argument at this point would be - this show is on its last legs and is on the way out, what do they have to lose by experimenting with a new format at this point? Bring in a competent production team (preferably BBCan's), throw a load of money at proper promotion (about the game ACTUALLY changing) and the task team, maybe increase the prize fund to £250k, consider having some public influence like a VTS to remove one of three nominees and a jury vote, and see what happens. If it doesn't work, fine, the show's over. If it does work, fantastic, there might be a couple of years left. If you don't try, the show's still over. It's win-win at this point.

[RichardG]

not going to happen

[T*]

I honestly don't think so. Firstly C5 and the current production team don't have an ounce of sense between them, they don't even know how to execute a 'surprise' eviction let alone implementing a format change. And secondly, I'd imagine they rely on voting revenue even more so than they used to since it's so low.

They definitely should though, I cba getting into this debate again because it's been done ad nauseum on here and goes around in circles but my only argument at this point would be - this show is on its last legs and is on the way out, what do they have to lose by experimenting with a new format at this point? Bring in a competent production team (preferably BBCan's), throw a load of money at proper promotion (about the game ACTUALLY changing) and the task team, maybe increase the prize fund to £250k, consider having some public influence like a VTS to remove one of three nominees and a jury vote, and see what happens. If it doesn't work, fine, the show's over. If it does work, fantastic, there might be a couple of years left. If you don't try, the show's still over. It's win-win at this point.
I agree with your ideas completely and how the production team is a damn mess
They're rumoured to bring back survivor so I really do hope they bring in a good production team or that and maybe if they do it well ithe BBUS format could be something for those producers to work on as well.

[Jodie.]

Maybe for one series, and I’m not usually a traditionalist but the public vote makes BBUK BBUK x

[Jack_]

I really need to watch one of the USA series. Its talked about so much and I have no idea about it besides apparently they don;t have a public vote and its all about gameplaying. I should like it as I tend to like the gameplayers in our series and fine it crap when someone coasts their way to the final then wins just for being quiet...

You definitely should! I think you'd love it, I remember I always criticised the BBUS format (like Patrick) without ever having seen it. I gave the first season of BBCan a try when it aired and fell in love and then rewatched almost all the US seasons :laugh: the good thing also is they're not much of a commitment to watch, 30 episodes a season is nothing

That's one of my favourite things about the US format as well in that even if I don't like a player and they do well, I can at least appreciate that (for the most part) they've got far/even won on merit and have played a good game. That's far more deserving than in the UK where if you just sit in the house and say very little you might win the show

[T*]

Annoying that with the CBS connotations they still won't broadcast BBUSA over here on 5Star or something :sad:

[pontyboi]

Channel 5 seems to be experimenting more and more with some seemingly BBUSA aspects - The Void, backdoor evictions, housemates vote etc.
Channel 5 are owned by Viacom who I'm pretty sure are well connected and have a stake in CBS, the broadcaster of BBUSA.
Combine this with declining ratings and BBUSA seemingly getting an increase in worldwide interest, do you think there's a possibility that they may ecperiment with a whole series of BB with the BBUSA format? I think there may be.

I would love to see 16 housemates from the UK go into BBUSA and 16 housemates from America go into the UK version. The 2 are so different and would be an actual social experiment again.

[Nicky91]

maybe it could be a idea :)

[FwenchPussyCat]

I think this is a possibility especially with the decline in ratings, if they look to cancel the show they might give the format a change to give it one last shot. I'm a big fan of the us format and would make the effort to apply if it happens. But I think also in terms of good television, you only have to watch Nedas eviction episode from big brother Canada this year to prove how exciting the show can be with this format.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe the Nominations could be carried out like BBUSA/Can, with HoH and PoV, but the public votes on evictions?

[Tregard]

If they're giving Survivor another crack and it works out I'd definitely see them giving the US format a try. However, they would need a couple of years off to establish the format change, otherwise you're going to get a really bastardised version that's just the US format with a ton of outside access and public votes.

[pontyboi]

They did try and do this on BB15 though tbf and it didn't sit well with the UK audience.

[Jack_]

I agree with your ideas completely and how the production team is a damn mess
They're rumoured to bring back survivor so I really do hope they bring in a good production team or that and maybe if they do it well ithe BBUS format could be something for those producers to work on as well.

I really hope the Survivor revivial is true but I think someone is/was just trolling unfortunately.

Maybe the Nominations could be carried out like BBUSA/Can, with HoH and PoV, but the public votes on evictions?

This idea has been floated before but I actually think it'd be worse than just keeping the format we have now. If the US format is implemented the one thing the public must not have direct control over is evictions, because it defeats the purpose of actually trying to play the game if who gets evicted is just determined on a whim of a popularity contest. The house and jury vote are the most crucial parts of the format.

I wouldn't be opposed to them having a VTS post-Veto to save one of three nominees before the house votes as normal, and for the UK to get a jury vote, but if the public still control the evictions they might as well not bother.

[pontyboi]

Just want to add aswell with no votes from the public Channel 5 won't be making any income from the show which lets be honest is what they care about. Can't see it happening.

[Denver]

Nobody wants it

[BBUK-Fan]

They need the public vote or people will complain and entertaining, controversial ones will go.

[fitz2k2]

its never gonna happen and I don't want it to happen

[Denver]

The British didnt like the American version when it aired here

[pontyboi]

The British didnt like the American version when it aired here

Totally forgot BBUSA aired on e4 and yeah wasn't well recieved.

[T*]

The British didnt like the American version when it aired here

I mean that was 8 years ago...
It still got like half the ratings that BB18 is getting now, if wasn't that badly received :skull:

[Greg!]

I mean that was 8 years ago...
It still got like half the ratings that BB18 is getting now, if wasn't that badly received :skull:

Hon it only got like 90k. I don't know why I remember that but I do lmao

[T*]

Hon it only got like 90k. I don't know why I remember that but I do lmao

I just looked and it got 328,600?

[T*]

Some people poo poo BBUSA without actually watching any of the formats

[Withano]

I absolutely wouldnt be interested in a Big Brother that doesnt have a public vote.. I really dont see that taking off in this country

[Greg!]

I just looked and it got 328,600?

I went on the BB9 Wikipedia and a lot of episodes got sub 100k. One of them got 87,500.

[T*]

I went on the BB9 Wikipedia and a lot of episodes got sub 100k. One of them got 87,500.

Oh :skull: I was on a DS page

[Greg!]

I kind of want a series that is a hybrid of the two formats because there's elements of the US format that stirs up drama without the need of interference from producers. I also find the plotting/scheming element interesting and it would make the show more exciting. BUT I don't think they should ever get rid of the public vote.

Imo they should do this.
Allow them to talk about nominations.
Have a HOH competition every week like the US. The winner gives a killer nomination and lives in a luxury suite for a week with other housemates of their choice.
Later in the week all housemates nominate in the diary room as normal. The three or more with the most noms also go up for eviction.
Then have a POV competition like in the US and the HOH chooses the replacement.
All of the nominees face a public vote to save. The housemates decide who is evicted out of the bottom two.

Idk if what I just wrote makes any sense but I think they should try something like it.

[pontyboi]

I mean that was 8 years ago...
It still got like half the ratings that BB18 is getting now, if wasn't that badly received :skull:

Didn't it air in 2002?

[T*]

Didn't it air in 2002?

2008...

[pontyboi]

2008...

I'm sure it aired for a while after BB3

[T*]

I'm sure it aired for a while after BB3

I wouldn't know.

[pontyboi]

I wouldn't know.

It definitley did I remember living at home and trying to watch it but disliking it....times have changed though there's been a major change in ukbb I personally wouldn't like the US version brought here

[supertv247]

I think they should have this format:

A HoH comp, winner gets immunity for the week and 1 killer nomination.
Normal nominations to decide who else faces the public vote.
POV comp for one person to try and save and replace themselves, not someone else.
Public vote to save their fave, person with least votes is gone.
Weekly shopping task as usual to earn the weekly budget (but proper C4 style, not what we get now)
And repeat!

The HoH comp could happen Saturdays / on Sundays show
Nominations on Sundays / Mondays show
PoV on Mondays / Tuesdays show - vote opens Tuesday
Shopping task happens Tues - We/Thu is shown on Wednesday - Thu/Friday

[Jack_]

Both BBUS 4 and 9 aired on E4, but they were terrible seasons so no wonder they did badly

Talking of shopping tasks, if they can't implement the whole format I'd definitely like to see us adopt Haves/Have Nots and Slop. The producers are always trying to manufacture drama these days and it'd be such a simple way to have it occur organically. Split the house into two or three groups, run a task as normal, the winners are Haves and get a luxury budget, the rest are Have Nots and live off Slop and sleep in an uncomfortable room.

[LukeB]

Both BBUS 4 and 9 aired on E4, but they were terrible seasons so no wonder they did badly.

didn't 11 air on E4 too?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Some people poo poo BBUSA without actually watching any of the formats

BBUS is poo poo though to be fair.