Gay Showmance

[sampvt]

Sorry but i had to open this thread as Ive been told off for mentioning it on the other showmance thread which apparently is exclusively for Sam and Ellie.

Is anyone buying the raph andrew one. Andrew admitted he doesent know if he is gay yet he is now in love with raph. Raph professes he is gay yet he fingers chanelle. In my book that makes them both bi sexual, or am I wrong. I get so mixed up with all the letters, names and explanations of everything these days. Im not even sure what to call them. Are they gay or Bi curious.

Anyway I think they are both faking it for airtime. Andrew is certainly a camera hugger and dresses like a weirdo that we need subtitles for and Raph is in bits after being called 2 faced. He must be dying inside. Being a game player is ok, but when the public call you 2 faced, that has to hurt.

[Amy Jade]

What showmance? Raph didn't even say he was attracted to Andrew it's all one sided until Raph says otherwise.

[Parmy]

What showmance? Raph didn't even say he was attracted to Andrew it's all one sided until Raph says otherwise.

I dont think raphs to fussy to be honest:joker:

[Black Dagger]

It is just Andrew saying he fancies Raph. You are reading into it too much.

[sampvt]

It is just Andrew saying he fancies Raph. You are reading into it too much.

call me mystic meg then as raph is desperate.

[Black Dagger]

Can't be that desperate when he wouldn't even sleep with me :(

[chuff me dizzy]

Can't be that desperate when he wouldn't even sleep with me :(

:joker: He would have done if you were in the house with him and he had just been called 2 faced

[Jedman]

Sorry but i had to open this thread as Ive been told off for mentioning it on the other showmance thread which apparently is exclusively for Sam and Ellie.

Is anyone buying the raph andrew one. Andrew admitted he doesent know if he is gay yet he is now in love with raph. Raph professes he is gay yet he fingers chanelle. In my book that makes them both bi sexual, or am I wrong. I get so mixed up with all the letters, names and explanations of everything these days. Im not even sure what to call them. Are they gay or Bi curious.

Anyway I think they are both faking it for airtime. Andrew is certainly a camera hugger and dresses like a weirdo that we need subtitles for and Raph is in bits after being called 2 faced. He must be dying inside. Being a game player is ok, but when the public call you 2 faced, that has to hurt.

Raph fingered chanelle? Pretty sure that was all a joke.

[joeysteele]

What is this obsession with whether people are gay or not.
What on earth does it matter what people's sexual preferences are for crying out loud.

It's more harmless fun I saw,nothing more,Andrew has it seems come across someone he feels is more easy to get on with.
Raph is friendly anyway.

What on earth is wrong with any of that. Really clutching at straws here is this thread,in my view.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

We don't know if Raph fancies Andrew. But they're friends and getting on very well. I'm happy for Raph.

[sampvt]

What is this obsession with whether people are gay or not.
What on earth does it matter what people's sexual preferences are for crying out loud.

It's more harmless fun I saw,nothing more,Andrew has it seems come across someone he feels is more easy to get on with.
Raph is friendly anyway.

What on earth is wrong with any of that. Really clutching at straws here is this thread,in my view.

Dont get so defensive, I thought the same with sam and ellie actually

[Jedman]

What is this obsession with whether people are gay or not.
What on earth does it matter what people's sexual preferences are for crying out loud.

It's more harmless fun I saw,nothing more,Andrew has it seems come across someone he feels is more easy to get on with.
Raph is friendly anyway.

What on earth is wrong with any of that. Really clutching at straws here is this thread,in my view.

Exactly, just because they are both gay doesn't mean they will fancy each other. Can just be seen as two people having a laugh.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Exactly, just because they are both gay doesn't mean they will fancy each other. Can just be seen as two people having a laugh.

Andrew definitely fancies Raph. Not sure about Raph, but he likes him as a friend.

[azi]

Andrew is gay he just doesn't like being labeled. His is more than his sexuality.
Raph is also gay. Just because he was with women before does not make him bi. He know himself now and identifies as gay.

I do think Andrew finds Raph intriguing and therefore is interested in him.
Raph appreciates having someone who is like him.
They seem to get along so far. But calling it a "showmance" already is a reach.

[Vicky.]

Yes Andrew seems a bit desperate to get into some kind of showmance tbh. Raph not so much.

[Samm]

did we miss the highlight show when raph started fingering chanelle?

[T*]

why could the title not be just 'showmance' https://media.tenor.com/images/76fe294930a46418a5cd1eff635bcb50/tenor.gif

[Littlegreen]

call me mystic meg then as raph is desperate.

The only thing desperate is these countless attempts to belittle Raph.

[T*]

The only thing desperate is these countless attempts to belittle Raph.

:clap2:

[Shaun]

did we miss the highlight show when raph started fingering chanelle?

was when they were under a cover and Chanelle said "No Raph that's not the clitoris" so obviously they definitely fingered and it couldn't possibly have been a joke

[sampvt]

was when they were under a cover and Chanelle said "No Raph that's not the clitoris" so obviously they definitely fingered and it couldn't possibly have been a joke

She didnt say it was a joke and he didnt deny it, ergo, FACTS IN EVIDENCE.

[Shaun]

She didnt say it was a joke and he didnt deny it, ergo, FACTS IN EVIDENCE.

She also didn't NOT say "I'm the next Doctor Who" and he didn't deny that either, so look forward to Chanelle on BBC1 for the next two years

[T*]

She didnt say it was a joke and he didnt deny it, ergo, FACTS IN EVIDENCE.

Your arm is going to break with the amount of reaching you're doing...

[sampvt]

Your arm is going to break with the amount of reaching you're doing...

Cant reach mate. My right arms strapped to my cheat after my lymphnode removal. Im typing with left hand only and thats busy answering inane posts.

[sampvt]

why could the title not be just 'showmance' https://media.tenor.com/images/76fe294930a46418a5cd1eff635bcb50/tenor.gif

There is already one post about showmance but thats a sam and ellie one, does the word Gay in the title offend you. Dosent offend anyone else, might you care to explain or are we all to walk on eggshells because you dont like me using the word gay to determine an obvious difference between the straight romance and the gay showmance

[T*]

There is already one post about showmance but thats a sam and ellie one, does the word Gay in the title offend you. Dosent offend anyone else, might you care to explain or are we all to walk on eggshells because you dont like me using the word gay to determine an obvious difference between the straight romance and the gay showmance

So you couldn't of said another showmance or anything? Hmm
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[sampvt]

So you couldn't of said another showmance or anything? Hmm
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d6/9b/70/d69b709f33d85dac209e452061684a2d--funny-statuses-funny-emoticons.jpg

Nope, I thought my title would point out a specific action. I didnt want to confuse people with something that they might have misunderstood like maybe Charlotte and Joe in the green room or tom and hannah. I was specific but to me your objection and tea spilling is pointed directly at the word Gay. Care to explain as its a perfectly reasonable title unless you are trying to bait or troll me for some personal reason. I know you are gay, so are we not allowed to refer to you as gay anymore, or are you going under a different handle these days. I dont see the problem here and i am very interested to hear yours by ways of educating me like you often profess to do on numerous occassions.

[T*]

Seems like you thought people would be confused because the showmance doesn't exist

[sampvt]

Seems like you thought people would be confused because the showmance doesn't exist

Is that the best you can come up with. lol. youre loosing your touch mate.

[BBDodge]

It's a gay nomance, then.

[T*]

Is that the best you can come up with. lol. youre loosing your touch mate.

It's doesn't exist?
Raph and Andrew aren't in a showmance

[sampvt]

It's doesn't exist?
Raph and Andrew aren't in a showmance

In or out of a showmance is academic, we were discussing what you brought up THE WORD GAY. are you now backtracking or shall we drop it. I dont think you can win this one Tom

[Samm]

was when they were under a cover and Chanelle said "No Raph that's not the clitoris" so obviously they definitely fingered and it couldn't possibly have been a joke

She also didn't NOT say "I'm the next Doctor Who" and he didn't deny that either, so look forward to Chanelle on BBC1 for the next two years

case settled, evidence on the table, can't wait for Chanelle Who?

[sampvt]

case settled, evidence on the table, can't wait for Chanelle Who?

EXACTLY, next year people will be saying Chanelle WHO ??????? she will be forgotten quickly

[Samm]

EXACTLY, next year people will be saying Chanelle WHO ??????? she will be forgotten quickly

didn't you get the jok.. i..

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[sampvt]

didn't you get the jok.. i..

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iy6qDYkJVIHPtOo/giphy.gif

Of course I did but my double entendre was far better, dont you think.

[sampvt]

Chuff what did you do, its gone quiet in here now ???????

[Samm]

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[SoberLikeGizmo]

What showmance? Raph didn't even say he was attracted to Andrew it's all one sided until Raph says otherwise.

Well said Amy Jade... at least Raph is not low enough to hook up with a guy 24 hours after knowing them just to get screen time... like that fake Ellie is

[TaylorCallum]

I really don't see it as a showmance, I don't think Raph is interested in Andrew like that. Like he said in the diary room he's happy that there's someone else in the house who isn't a "lad's lad" so he probably feels like he can relate to Andrew more.

As for them both being bi, who knows, maybe? But they both identify as gay so I'm sure they know themselves.

I'm not here for a showmance between Sam and Ellie or Raph and Andrew, I just find them dull.

[Vladimir]

It's not going to happen!!

https://media.tenor.com/images/a57a9bb02618092317925593873dbc35/tenor.gif

[Withano]

Raph has never shown a sexual or a romantic interest in Andrew...

[Captain.Remy]

Raph knows it will be bad for his game. So he stays unbothered as usual.

Andrew needs subtitles when is talking anyway, who would get involved with him?
He's messy af

[sampvt]

Raph knows it will be bad for his game. So he stays unbothered as usual.

Andrew needs subtitles when is talking anyway, who would get involved with him?
He's messy af

So raph is the kind that would Forgoe love or effection in order to win a game. And he isn't 2 faced :joker:

[TaylorCallum]

So raph is the kind that would Forgoe love or effection in order to win a game. And he isn't 2 faced :joker:

What's wrong with that? Maybe the game is more important to him. He even said in his VT he doesn't believe in love so if anything he's being honest to what he said.

[sampvt]

Raph knows it will be bad for his game. So he stays unbothered as usual.

Andrew needs subtitles when is talking anyway, who would get involved with him?
He's messy af

What's wrong with that? Maybe the game is more important to him. He even said in his VT he doesn't believe in love so if anything he's being honest to what he said.

Glad you agree with me. Thanks.

[TaylorCallum]

Glad you agree with me. Thanks.

I don't agree he is two faced but I do agree that perhaps winning Big Brother is more important to him than loving his fellow housemates. who he has only known for a few weeks/days.

I don't see what is wrong with that? He's been a fan for years and wants to be in there as long as possible. It doesn't mean he hates the other housemates, he just has his priorities in order.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Andrew likes Raph, but we don't even know if Raph likes him as well. So at the moment it's just a close friendship. Could it become more? Maybe, maybe not.

[Ant.]

Andrew is gay he just doesn't like being labeled. His is more than his sexuality.
Raph is also gay. Just because he was with women before does not make him bi. He know himself now and identifies as gay.

I do think Andrew finds Raph intriguing and therefore is interested in him.
Raph appreciates having someone who is like him.
They seem to get along so far. But calling it a "showmance" already is a reach.

:clap1:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It's nice to see raph get some love. Hope they become close friends.

[Vicky.]

Raph knows it will be bad for his game. So he stays unbothered as usual.

Andrew needs subtitles when is talking anyway, who would get involved with him?
He's messy af

I wouldn't be too sure about that. He may go for it in the last few weeks. You know, the stay relatively quiet all series then start contributing at the end type gameplan? Also...whilst showmances are unliked on the forums...the general viewers tend to love them. Raph will know this.

At the moment though, there is no sign of this 'gay showmance' except for Andrew seemingly wanting it. I would question Andrews motives tbh, going in there knowing Raphs popular too. Same as I question Sams motives with Ellie.

[sampvt]

I wouldn't be too sure about that. He may go for it in the last few weeks. You know, the stay relatively quiet all series then start contributing at the end type gameplan? Also...whilst showmances are unliked on the forums...the general viewers tend to love them. Raph will know this.

At the moment though, there is no sign of this 'gay showmance' except for Andrew seemingly wanting it. I would question Andrews motives tbh, going in there knowing Raphs popular too. Same as I question Sams motives with Ellie.

Stop saying ''Gay Showmance'' you will get infracted. :dance:

[ChristmasNeeve]

So raph is the kind that would Forgoe love or effection in order to win a game. And he isn't 2 faced :joker:
That still doesnt make him two faced, also maybe he's just not attracted to Andrew. . .

[Vicky.]

That still doesnt make him two faced, also maybe he's just not attracted to Andrew. . .

FFS niamh do you not know all gays are attracted to each other :fist:

Coincidentally, has Raph ever mentioned fancying Rylan or Russell brand? :suspect:

Andrews not bad looking, but when he opens his mouth me ruins it all. what a ****ing irritating voice :umm2:

[armand.kay]

I doubt Raph is at all interested... but I could be wrong so who knows.

[ChristmasNeeve]

FFS niamh do you not know all gays are attracted to each other :fist:

Coincidentally, has Raph ever mentioned fancying Rylan or Russell brand? :suspect:

Andrews not bad looking, but when he opens his mouth me ruins it all. what a ****ing irritating voice :umm2:

Not that I know of, Andrew does look like he could be their love child though :laugh:

[sampvt]

FFS niamh do you not know all gays are attracted to each other :fist:

Coincidentally, has Raph ever mentioned fancying Rylan or Russell brand? :suspect:

Andrews not bad looking, but when he opens his mouth me ruins it all. what a ****ing irritating voice :umm2:

Pack it in you 2, you are lowering the tone of the thread. stop arguing, ill get mad.

[Rob!]

I honestly don't get the impression that Andrew is in any way Raph's type. It'll be nice relief for him to have someone to talk to that isn't a lad, but I think that'll be about as far as it goes.

[sampvt]

I honestly don't get the impression that Andrew is in any way Raph's type. It'll be nice relief for him to have someone to talk to that isn't a lad, but I think that'll be about as far as it goes.

Oh so if your not gay you are a lad. Thats terrible and very condescending, Im hurt.

[Rob!]

Oh so if your not gay you are a lad. Thats terrible and very condescending, Im hurt.

Erm...not quite what I said, no. Kieran, Tom, Sam and Lotan are all lad type housemates, yes? As would Joe be if he was younger?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Oh so if your not gay you are a lad. Thats terrible and very condescending, Im hurt.

Where did he say that? Just happens that the three younger guys in there happen to be lads lads :/

[sampvt]

Where did he say that? Just happens that the three younger guys in there happen to be lads lads :/

Pretty clear. Tom and Sam are lads but Kiearan and Joe are not

Originally Posted by Rob! View Post
I honestly don't get the impression that Andrew is in any way Raph's type. It'll be nice relief for him to have someone to talk to that isn't a lad, but I think that'll be about as far as it goes.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Pretty clear. Tom and Sam are lads but Kiearan and Joe are not

Originally Posted by Rob! View Post
I honestly don't get the impression that Andrew is in any way Raph's type. It'll be nice relief for him to have someone to talk to that isn't a lad, but I think that'll be about as far as it goes.

Kieran is a lad, didn't he say exactly that in last night show? That he only ever socialises with lads :laugh: re Joe I did say "younger guys"

[sampvt]

Kieran is a lad, didn't he say exactly that in last night show? That he only ever socialises with lads :laugh: re Joe I did say "younger guys"

Calling someone a 'lad' is a term of endearment for man or boy. ACTING like a lad or a lad TYPE, is totally different. He was inferring a lad TYPE not a lad/man or boy. Plus Kieran is too level headed to act like a lad type.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Calling someone a 'lad' is a term of endearment for man or boy. ACTING like a lad or a lad TYPE, is totally different. He was inferring a lad TYPE not a lad/man or boy. Plus Kieran is too level headed to act like a lad type.

I know what a lads lad means thanks. Kieran is absolutely one

[sampvt]

I know what a lads lad means thanks. Kieran is absolutely one

He is just friendly with them, he never gets involved in the lads crap.

[ChristmasNeeve]

He is just friendly with them, he never gets involved in the lads crap.

showering with the lads? wrestling with lads, rolling down the stairs with the lads, that kind of thing? Could have swore I saw him do all that stuff

[sampvt]

showering with the lads? wrestling with lads, rolling down the stairs with the lads, that kind of thing? Could have swore I saw him do all that stuff

showering.....saving water hes an environmentalist.

wrestling.....fitness training

rolling down stairs.....hes clumsy and slipped.

He never got involved in the chocolate or the arguments apart from as a peace keeper.

Your turn

[ChristmasNeeve]

showering.....saving water hes an environmentalist.

wrestling.....fitness training

rolling down stairs.....hes clumsy and slipped.

He never got involved in the chocolate or the arguments apart from as a peace keeper.

Your turn

Is that a lads lad thing to do cos I could have sworn Ellie was involved in that, that's probably why Kieran wasn't cos she aint a lad m8

[Babayaro.]

I haven't been watching but didn't Kieran claim to have slept with like over 300 woman?

Oh yes, not a 'lad's lad' at all...

[Christmas Dynasnow]

There is little point as the viewers are mesmerised with Samellie

what with it being genuine

:flutter:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think Andrew is quite good looking. Not sure if he's Raph's type though. But sometimes things can happen with someone who isn't your usual type. So who knows?

[ChristmasNeeve]

There is little point as the viewers are mesmerised with Samellie

what with it being genuine

:flutter:

Sam'n'Ella is better :hehe:

[Kazanne]

Sam'n'Ella is better :hehe:

Oh,harsh :hehe:

[sampvt]

Sam'n'Ella is better :hehe:

smellie more like

[Christmas Dynasnow]

:oh:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Sam'n'Ella is better :hehe:

That sounds a bit like Salmonella D:

[ChristmasNeeve]

That sounds a bit like Salmonella D:

yes that was the aim Ness :laugh:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

That sounds a bit like Salmonella D:

:facepalm: