Why is Raph labelled as 2 faced to the public?

[point17]

I haven't seen any behaviour that would indicate this worse than Tom or Charlotte who seem to say things behind people's backs a lot.

What had Raph done that is seen as 2 faced?

[sampvt]

DUH......Obviously the GBP are paying attention as we are. Dont let love blind your vision. He is a sneaky little **** and its well documented. ERGO 2 faced. Thousands of voters gave him that label.

[Parmy]

Is this thread serious.:joker:

[Nicky91]

Charlotte is just a joke as a housemate, and Tom well the public chose him as their people's housemate, what a letdown :hehe:



Raph isn't two faced, at least not him as a person i know on TiBB



Charlotte also could be a lovely person outside BB, but as a housemate she's just wallpaper, really bland

[sampvt]

Is this thread serious.:joker:

Obviously it depends on which camp you are in.

[Jordan.]

Hardly anyone votes in these online polls and he's just the easiest option to go with because of his vt.

[sampvt]

Hardly anyone votes in these online polls and he's just the easiest option to go with because of his vt.

Ah but if Charlotte was voted the most boring or the cool gang the most obnoxious, the clapping wouldnt stop for days. Pools are ****e, i give you that, but raph is a sneaky little ****e and thats a fact in evidence.

[DouglasS]

About 100 people vote on this poll. It's hardly 'the public'.
Raph had the least number of votes to evict by the actual public.

[sampvt]

About 100 people vote on this poll. It's hardly 'the public'.
Raph had the least number of votes to evict by the actual public.

so he did but hes still 2 faced whichever way you look at it. How confusing for some. They love the polls when hes fav but hate them when hes a 2 faced little ****. sad really and very conflicting.

[Littlegreen]

If people are so determined to label him this, please give an instance when he has been...

Because all he seems to have done is let his friends know what the clique had been saying.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

it's probably just because he has told people when the other housemates have been bitching about them

[sampvt]

sorry, the times hes done it are way too many to mention and its sunday which means footie, Brisket and recliner in full swing.

[ChristmasNeeve]

He hasnt done anything that was two faced imo but tbf I really dont think any of them are two faced

[ChristmasNeeve]

sorry, the times hes done it are way too many to mention and its sunday which means footie, Brisket and recliner in full swing.
In other words U cant think of an example lol
sorry, the times hes done it are way too many to mention and its sunday which means footie, Brisket and recliner in full swing.

[sampvt]

He hasnt done anything that was two faced imo but tbf I really dont think any of them are two faced

So gaining information by listening or quizzing people then relating that info to someone you know damm well will use it to cause an argument, is ok then. I dont know how you can call that as being ok. where I come from its called being 2 faced. He has done it LARGE on numerous occasions captured by the cameras and even BOTS have discussed his actions on numerous occasions. So much evidence yet hes still the vestal virgin. NO SORRY, HE IS 2 FACED and the public agree with me. Cant be clearer than that can we.

[sampvt]

In other words U cant think of an example lol

Answer above, now stop baiting me :nono:

[Shaun]

At worst he's a stirrer lol, but if I heard someone slagging off a friend who was later going to act nice/civil to them, I would most likely tell them too. As would you. But you're convincing yourself otherwise.

[chuff me dizzy]

Ear wigging with people you cosy up to to try to worm you're way into their gang, then running back ( and I'm talking running back ) and telling tales and adding a lie or two to make it sound more juicy than it was ,then next minute sat chatting to the same people you grassed on is 2 faced

[Samm]

Ear wigging with people you cosy up to to try to worm you're way into their gang, then running back ( and I'm talking running back ) and telling tales and adding a lie or two to make it sound more juicy than it was ,then next minute sat chatting to the same people you grassed on is 2 faced

he's telling his friends what other people have said about them? I would of done the exact same loool, I would of questioned him if he didn't tell them

[chuff me dizzy]

he's telling his friends what other people have said about them? I would of done the exact same loool, I would of questioned him if he didn't tell them

Would you also have gone back chatting to the people you had just grassed up ?

[sampvt]

Would you also have gone back chatting to the people you had just grassed up ?

Im not getting this defence at all. Its actually condoning trouble making and **** stirring. Im glad Im not like that

[tb24259]

Those who stir the pot should have to lick the spoon and when Raph heard the public's opinion of his antics he got a taste of something he wasn't expecting that's for sure

[Littlegreen]

Those who stir the pot should have to lick the spoon and when Raph heard the public's opinion of his antics he got a taste of something he wasn't expecting that's for sure

As if that poll wasn't manipulated though.

[TaylorCallum]

The 3 people that voted in the polls clearly weren't Raph fans :shrug:.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He isn't two faced. All he has done is look out for his friends.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

If he was playing both sides then I would agree, but he's not. I think it's to do with his VT. Also being a game player is not a bad thing. It's a game show? Nothing wrong on having a strategy.

[Jedman]

Raph is a master game player he is manipulating everyone.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Raph is a master game player he is manipulating everyone.

I agree, but that doesn't mean he's nasty.

[Jedman]

I agree, but that doesn't mean he's nasty.

Don't know If he actually is, it just sounds cool to say.

And yeah I rekon he is genuinely a nice guy.

[waterhog]

DUH......Obviously the GBP are paying attention as we are. Dont let love blind your vision. He is a sneaky little **** and its well documented. ERGO 2 faced. Thousands of voters gave him that label.

andhe is a BB fanatic - no's what he is doing ? but is it wrong to play the game or do we need to applaud him - you decide.

[tb24259]

He isn't two faced. All he has done is look out for his friends.


I don't dislike him as a housemate, I just think his running around between groups carrying tales and gossip is going to get him booted if he isn't careful

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I don't dislike him as a housemate, I just think his running around between groups carrying tales and gossip is going to get him booted if he isn't careful

He hasn't done that lately, but some people still like to beat him with that stick. I think it's unfair.

[storybrooke]

None of the housemates are overly 2-faced so I think he was chosen because of telling his mates about what's being said about them

[ChristmasNeeve]

I don't dislike him as a housemate, I just think his running around between groups carrying tales and gossip is going to get him booted if he isn't careful

he isn't though, he's never gone to the popular crew with stories about his friends

[Littlegreen]

I don't dislike him as a housemate, I just think his running around between groups carrying tales and gossip is going to get him booted if he isn't careful

I think we've seen him do it once on the main show and it's just escalated.

Maybe it's because he isn't as opinionated as the others that when he actually does something like that, it paints him in a bad light?

[joeysteele]

It's a total mystery to me.
They got that one really wrong.

[rionablue]

I haven't seen any behaviour that would indicate this worse than Tom or Charlotte who seem to say things behind people's backs a lot.

What had Raph done that is seen as 2 faced?

Because in Raphs case he was listening to the others whatever they were saying about people THEN running into the bedroom bitches specially the sisters and TELLING them THEN telling them NOT to confront whoever said what they said.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think we've seen him do it once on the main show and it's just escalated.

Maybe it's because he isn't as opinionated as the others that when he actually does something like that, it paints him in a bad light?

He has only done it once. A bit of a reach to call him two faced when he hasn't gone to the other group to tell stories. Gameplayer probably. Nasty no he is not. He's the nicest one there.

[Merry Mockmas]

I haven't seen any behaviour that would indicate this worse than Tom or Charlotte who seem to say things behind people's backs a lot.

What had Raph done that is seen as 2 faced?

People seem to have somehow mixed up strategy and two faced together.

Raph has not once pretended to be friends with people and then slag them off behind their back, or nominated them in the Diary Room.

[Gstar]

He shouldn't know what the public think about him anyway, it was a mean thing to do and wasn't fair on him

[Merry Mockmas]

He shouldn't know what the public think about him anyway, it was a mean thing to do and wasn't fair on him

The poll isn't reflective anyway as the public like Raph.

[Gstar]

The poll isn't reflective anyway as the public like Raph.

But didn't BB say the public think he's two faced? Raph doesn't know what's going on out here so he's obviously going to think what BB says, as does the other housemates