Do you prefer BB18 or LI3?

[Jodie.]

Poll incoming x

[TaylorCallum]

I don't watch Love Island so BB automatically I guess? I'm really liking this series actually.

[Greg!]

BB18 but the last episode was pretty bad

[Amy Jade]

Haven't watched a single episode of LI series 2 was dire.

[Jodie.]

I don't watch Love Island so BB automatically I guess? I'm really liking this series actually.

Same, I don’t get the love for LI. BB18 is my fav on C5 <3

[reece(:]

BB, LI is trash.

[Morgan.]

BB, LI is trash.

.

[supertv247]

You do realise This Is a Big Brother forum? :laugh:

[Ross.]

Honestly I think I'm starting to prefer Love Island :worry: It's the better show atm

[Lostie!]

LI3 has been ****!

I mean, I haven't watched a second of it but it goes without saying.

[storybrooke]

Never watched Love Island and don't fancy watching a show centred solely on showmances

[andybigbro]

I jump between preference tbh but BB will always have a place in my heart.

[Black Dagger]

Love Island is so ****ing dull. I've seen bits and I just don't get it.

Last year I got.

[Ross.]

Honestly I think I'm starting to prefer Love Island :worry: It's the better show atm

I should point out that BB will always hold my heart tho!

[TaylorCallum]

What were the Celebrity Love Island ratings like against BB back in the day? Did BB demolish them?

[T*]

after tonight I'm unsure you know, I watched LI and I was hooked and I couldn't fault it

[Jodie.]

What were the Celebrity Love Island ratings like against BB back in the day? Did BB demolish them?

Yep, idk the figures but CLI got cancelled after 2 series I think (in 2005 & 2006)

[LukeB]

i'm 50/50 but the past few episodes of BB have been a bit dull and i've been enjoying Li a lot more.

[armand.kay]

LI3 I'm enjoying watching something that feels like it's produced by professionals
https://uploadir.com/u/mntxa5pd

[RhysJones]

Both are great for me personally but BB will always come first

[Jodie.]

I didn’t realise BB was such a big part of my life <3 literally think about it every single day, even when it’s not on and I base most of my life decisions on it x

[Jason.]

What were the Celebrity Love Island ratings like against BB back in the day? Did BB demolish them?

The first series got good ratings and beat BB6 (they only clashed in the first few weeks) but the second flopped against BB7.

[Firewire]

Some nights I prefer BB, some I prefer LI

[Jason.]

LI3 > BB18

I've not been that bothered about BB18 ever since Sukhvinder left and I haven't watched in days.

[Jodie.]

LI3 > BB18

I've not been that bothered about BB18 ever since Sukhvinder left and I haven't watched in days.

It’s good

[Rustic bauble]

I'm enjoying LI...I'm beginning to wish some of the LI crew were in the BB house...

[supertv247]

Well I just watched tonight's Love Island and it sh*t all over BB

[thisisdanny]

BB will always come first, and I've enjoyed this series lots (despite all the negativity people are giving it) However this series of Love Island just beats it. But both are addicting.

[Jodie.]

BB will always come first, and I've enjoyed this series lots (despite all the negativity people are giving it) However this series of Love Island just beats it. But both are addicting.

This is a good point, it’s really getting hammered as “the worst series ever”; but it’s far from that. People need to give it a chance bc it’s amazing imo <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm tempted to say Love Island despite never seeing a second of it!

[LukeB]

Well I just watched tonight's Love Island and it sh*t all over BB

was it the first time for you?

[supertv247]

was it the first time for you?

No :laugh: I watched last year and have watched this series!

Usually I love both but would still always put BB first, but tonight's love island was much better than BB. The execution of everything they do is just so much more engaging and impactful in comparison

[Jack_]

Love Island 1 > BB16

BB17 > Love Island 2

This year's harder to call. At the start, BB18 edged it, but I think it's flatlining now whereas Love Island is starting to peak. How they both end will determine which I preferred

[Time]

LI3 has been so good whilst BB18 has been underwhelming.

[Samm]

watched a bit of LI on catch up today and I can appreciate that it's produced better but that's it, it just screams heterosexual it'll be interesting if they chucked some gays and lesbians in

[Greg!]

Don't want to sound "heterophobic" but yeah the show is too straight-centric for me to watch and enjoy regularly. It's something for the straights to bond and have a giggle over I guess. The twist last night was good mind you.

[rionablue]

Never EVER thought I would say it but sadly Love Island is my favourite this summer and BB is going further and further down in my estimation. I am just hoping Celeb BB wll be better

[T*]

watched a bit of LI on catch up today and I can appreciate that it's produced better but that's it, it just screams heterosexual it'll be interesting if they chucked some gays and lesbians in

Don't want to sound "heterophobic" but yeah the show is too straight-centric for me to watch and enjoy regularly. It's something for the straights to bond and have a giggle over I guess. The twist last night was good mind you.

I would love some gays in love island

[Cal.]

The whole cast should be bisexual to make it REALLY interesting.

[Jason.]

The 'heterocentric' criticism is such a reach lmao. Like I'm sure if there were some gays thrown in on LI, people would still moan that "THEY'RE ALL GOOD-LOOKING AND NOT DIVERSE ENOUGH!!!!!" or s/t. Plus I doubt anyone here watches BB for the two gay people they chuck in every series,

[Jason.]

The whole cast should be bisexual to make it REALLY interesting.

That would actually be a really good idea.

[sungrass]

Love Island is so ****ing dull. I've seen bits and I just don't get it.

Last year I got.

I thought that too - and I didnt get the hype - but I binge watched several episodes over the weekend and got really into it. The tasks are much funnier thats for sure.

[Greg!]

The 'heterocentric' criticism is such a reach lmao. Like I'm sure if there were some gays thrown in on LI, people would still moan that "THEY'RE ALL GOOD-LOOKING AND NOT DIVERSE ENOUGH!!!!!" or s/t. Plus I doubt anyone here watches BB for the two gay people they chuck in every series,

I know there's hardly any gays on BB this year but the fact that they have at least one LGBT person pretty much every series and the premise of the show isn't based on straight people finding love just makes me feel like it's.... better? Idk how to explain it.

[Samm]

The whole cast should be bisexual to make it REALLY interesting.

ahh would be way better, jason has decided to ditch sarah and give mark a blowjob instead

[Samm]

The 'heterocentric' criticism is such a reach lmao. Like I'm sure if there were some gays thrown in on LI, people would still moan that "THEY'RE ALL GOOD-LOOKING AND NOT DIVERSE ENOUGH!!!!!" or s/t. Plus I doubt anyone here watches BB for the two gay people they chuck in every series,

hmm it's probably the ongoing talk of hetro love, which I know is the point of the show, but i'll be able to deal with it if they had different forms of love like the gays

[Jøsh]

Big Brother is slightly more diverse. All you ever see in Love Island is a bunch of wannabe models.

[Jason.]

ahh would be way better, jason has decided to ditch sarah and give mark a blowjob instead

:joker::joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

The 'heterocentric' criticism is such a reach lmao. Like I'm sure if there were some gays thrown in on LI, people would still moan that "THEY'RE ALL GOOD-LOOKING AND NOT DIVERSE ENOUGH!!!!!" or s/t. Plus I doubt anyone here watches BB for the two gay people they chuck in every series,

I know I don't watch Love Island but I actually kinda get their point? Like with BBUK and BBUS I just find myself so tired of the show trotting out straight showmances left and right and expecting me, a gay man, to be deeply invested. And say what you want about BBUK15 because god knows I've said plenty, but one of the redeeming qualities for me was that not only was there a gay showmance, but the straight HMs were accepting and almost even invested in it (even if it did involve Mark ****ing Byron.)

[*mazedsalv**]

LI

:(
Better cast, stories, editing, pacing. Funny moments etc...

It's made by professionals. BB is being done by toddlers atm.

[reece(:]

How is LI a better cast when many here have said only about 2/3 of them are worth support :think:

[Maxxie.]

If you miss the heyday of BB where everyone was talking about it (BB1 - 3 presumably, I was hardly born then) then yeah Love Island it is. It's actually suprising af to hear so many conversations about a BB style reality show these days in the Netflix era.

Love Island Pros:
- The narrator's better and actually really funny, if Marcus ever tried to be funny it would be ****.
- Better edited
- SOME interesting characters like the aspiring war correspondant.
- Funnier show (more banter) (this series anyways)
- Less drama/fights it gets tiresome on BB
- There all quite similar which actually makes it quite interesting.
- Not that hetero based, the guys in there are metrosexual af who shower together and are probably closeted.
- Both have their fair share of Z-listers but at least LI admits it, and with 3 EOTB stars, BB have pushed it this year.

BB Pros:
- Wide/diverse range of people and ages
- More eccentric characters
- Bigger fights/drama
- People win for their personalities
- Can sometimes be funny

LI Cons
- Shallow
- Can be bad role models (as can BB)
- More focused on one subject (love)
- Can't really think of anything else

BB Cons
- Tackier (by far)
- Less appealing/addictive
- Tiresome
- Edited too much
- Confusing new twist
- Recruits
- Doesn't really listen to fans.

Looks like Love Island might win this one. I think CBB would still beat Love Island though.

[Littlegreen]

I'd never watch Love Island. Nope.

But I'm respecting the fact the producers seem to have put a lot of effort into the series.

[armand.kay]

I don't mind the hetro cast because I know how complicated and confusing it would make the format if they did add some gays. Tbh I barely notice the guys are so camp and when I do I'm watxhing in a "oh so this is the world of heterosexual" sort of way.

[*mazedsalv**]

How is LI a better cast when many here have said only about 2/3 of them are worth support :think:

Bruhh, that's 1/2 more worthy people than BB.

I only like Isabelle in this current series, which says it all. On LI, I like Camilla, Montana, Alex, Kem, Chris, Gabby and Marcel. So, 1 vs 7.

[MrTheMan]

BB18 is better always.

What is the appeal of Love Island??? What's so special about half-naked young-uns stuck on an ugly island having sex with each other??? I don't understand.

[armand.kay]

Never seen Love Island and Big Brother is the king of all reality shows. Love Island is made for heterosexual people to have sex with each other with their tops off and in bikinis all day. Big Brother is diverse and not everyone has to have abs or bikini bodies. On BB, people don't like the sex on it but people somehow seem to love LI atm even though it is all about having sex. Big Brother all the way. Never give up on it!

its literally not only two couples have had sex and they only aired one, maybe you should watch an episode before making assumptions.

[armand.kay]

big brother producers literally wet their pants at the thought of housemates having sex people have sex on LI and producers are like meh is it relevant? and show like 2 seconds of it.

[Gstar]

BB18 had a good first few weeks but it's getting flat now, so repetitive and desperate for drama. LI has been a slow burner but it's definitely taken over now, I even watched last nights episode live on TV which is something I never do with BB other than the launch.

I agree with Armand, I thought I wouldn't like LI with it containing so many lads and plastic girls etc. But there is so much more to it, you just have to give it a chance

[Gstar]

Because it happens so many times and that it is what only ever happens so they don't care anymore because it is the same old, repeated by different people. People go from one partner to another at the drop of a hat and that's meant to be entertainment. :conf:

Yes it is.

I'd rather watch that than a show that has been ruined by channel 5

[Gstar]

You've got to admit though that Big Brother started it and Love Island is still the same concept but love being the main point instead of it being a social experiment. Every male on there flashes off there bodies and all the women are either plastic or a model. BB is diverse.

Most of the BB housemates are like that nowadays :laugh: Yes, BB used to be amazing. In the new era they've only produced two good series (BB13 and 17) which still had a few **** housemates and let's not forget how much they ruined the last few weeks of BB17. On the other hand, CBB is great

[Oaker]

Channel 5 haven't ruined Big Brother. They have brought it to a new generation of viewers of young and old and I think the early channel 5 with Brian Dowling was bad but Emma Willis helped it get back to its best. Channel 5 have updated it for more modern times and it still entertains.
I also find that younger viewers around teenagers to people in their 20s and 30s do recognise the celebrities on it now because the celebs are spread out for all generations. Some that the youngers know, some the older people will know. It may have had a dip in the ratings but I'm sure it will get back to its feet and the show is still one of the most talked about.

They early C5 days were the last time it was good :shrug:

2012 was the last good year of BB let's be real

[Jason.]

Channel 5 haven't ruined Big Brother. They have brought it to a new generation of viewers of young and old and I think the early channel 5 with Brian Dowling was bad but Emma Willis helped it get back to its best. Channel 5 have updated it for more modern times and it still entertains.
I also find that younger viewers around teenagers to people in their 20s and 30s do recognise the celebrities on it now because the celebs are spread out for all generations. Some that the youngers know, some the older people will know. It may have had a dip in the ratings but I'm sure it will get back to its feet and the show is still one of the most talked about.

Absolute LIES!

[Gstar]

You sound like you work for channel 5 :suspect:

[Jack_]

I was thinking earlier how it's peculiar that the same criticism that's always been levelled at Big Brother (that it's lowbrow television, full of desperate fame-hungry people who get into fake romances and have sex) and refuted by the hardcore fans whom suggest people actually give it a shot, is now being levelled by Big Brother fans at Love Island :shrug:

Neither are true. And if detractors of both shows gave them both a decent chance, they'd see that.

[armand.kay]

Because it happens so many times and that it is what only ever happens so they don't care anymore because it is the same old, repeated by different people. People go from one partner to another at the drop of a hat and that's meant to be entertainment. :conf:

it doesn't happen that often though how can you judge the show when you've not watched it?

[Greg!]

Channel 5 haven't ruined Big Brother. They have brought it to a new generation of viewers of young and old and I think the early channel 5 with Brian Dowling was bad but Emma Willis helped it get back to its best. Channel 5 have updated it for more modern times and it still entertains.
I also find that younger viewers around teenagers to people in their 20s and 30s do recognise the celebrities on it now because the celebs are spread out for all generations. Some that the youngers know, some the older people will know. It may have had a dip in the ratings but I'm sure it will get back to its feet and the show is still one of the most talked about.

They haven't "brought a new generation of viewers" at all. Even their most successful series are way down on what channel 4 used to get.

Even channel 5's best series were only due to luck because of excellent casts, the actual production of the show has been tacky and awful since 2011. I prefer BB but they need to take a few leaves out of LI's book if they want the ratings up again.

[Jodie.]

I see two versions of BB - C4 and C5

C4 pros:
Social Experiment
More hype around it
Generally more diverse cast

C5 pros:
Modern
Editing is more lively
Try to keep it fresh and new each series

C4 cons:
Could be dull sometimes
Production didn’t give a sh*t in the decline-era
The concept was the same in every single series

C5 cons:
Tacky in BB12-13
Isn’t usually as diverse
Tasks aren’t really that great

They are both 2 very different shows. I’ve grown up watching the C5 version; probably why I controversially find it better than C4. Both channels have had their good and bad series, it just depends what you like more.

[girlfighter1992]

Was BB18 but since Arthur, Rebecca, Kayleigh, Savannah and Lotan have gone Love Island all the way for me its way better

[Oaker]

The thing about LI is that ITV actually put effort into it and understand who their target audience is and what they want.

C5 put no effort into BB, give it no promo and they don't have a clue what their viewers actually want. No matter how many times people tell them what they need to do to improve they ignore it and try to copy whatever other reality show is popular at the time.

[T*]

They haven't "brought a new generation of viewers" at all. Even their most successful series are way down on what channel 4 used to get.

Even channel 5's best series were only due to luck because of excellent casts, the actual production of the show has been tacky and awful since 2011. I prefer BB but they need to take a few leaves out of LI's book if they want the ratings up again.

This, production is awful and tacky and has been ever since C5 got hold of it.

[T*]

The thing about LI is that ITV actually put effort into it and understand who their target audience is and what they want.

C5 put no effort into BB, give it no promo and they don't have a clue what their viewers actually want. No matter how many times people tell them what they need to do to improve they ignore it and try to copy whatever other reality show is popular at the time.

Tea!

[Jordan.]

Saw about 15 minutes of LI this year and it was repulsive so BB wins

[armand.kay]

I'm saying that before on channel 4, statistically it was aimed at middle aged people. Now it is at more of a younger audience. Btw was Michael Madsen good in the house? Just wondering because I am meeting him later this month.

Big brother got a both a young and older audience when it was on c4 if anything c5 have alienated a big chunk of its viewers in an attempt to be more like eotb and geordie shore

[T*]

The concept was the same in every single series.
Oh yes, that's why Channel 4 made BB5 an 'evil' series and brought in viewers after they gave the format a shakeup...
Half your C4 cons don't make sense other than if you've only watched like bb4 or something...

[LukeB]

The thing about LI is that ITV actually put effort into it and understand who their target audience is and what they want.

C5 put no effort into BB, give it no promo and they don't have a clue what their viewers actually want. No matter how many times people tell them what they need to do to improve they ignore it and try to copy whatever other reality show is popular at the time.

This

Last year
Love island had a snapchat filter which is used by the younger generation which is their target audience so that's actually good promotion but last years BB only had snapchat thing for just people who are in London and there were no billboard promotion like they was for CBB17. (CBB17 eye was on the Birmingham New Street promotion screen)

[Greg!]

A really random thing I've noticed as well is that whenever LI features music on the highlights shows it always feels natural and fitting for the scene. Whenever the BB editors put music over scenes it's always cringe as ****.

[T*]

I'm saying that before on channel 4, statistically it was aimed at middle aged people. Now it is at more of a younger audience. Btw was Michael Madsen good in the house? Just wondering because I am meeting him later this month.

No it wasn't, it was aimed at everybody, young and old. It's so ironic you say this because nowadays the majority of BB fans of the C5 version are middle aged where as when it was on C4 everyone watched....

[T*]

A really random thing I've noticed as well is that whenever LI features music on the highlights shows it always feels natural and fitting for the scene. Whenever the BB editors put music over scenes it's always cringe as ****.

It's always the same music on BB too :skull: like they have to squeeze every last drop out of their music licences

[Greg!]

No it wasn't, it was aimed at everybody, young and old. It's so ironic you say this because nowadays the majority of BB fans of the C5 version are middle aged where as when it was on C4 everyone watched....

Yeah wasn't there a BBC article which said that 60% of BB viewers were over 50 or something :skull:

[Gstar]

The thing about LI is that ITV actually put effort into it and understand who their target audience is and what they want.

C5 put no effort into BB, give it no promo and they don't have a clue what their viewers actually want. No matter how many times people tell them what they need to do to improve they ignore it and try to copy whatever other reality show is popular at the time.

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[Jack_]

The Love Island promotion this year was insane, I must've seen or heard (I still have the music in my head) the ad over 100 times, it was on like every ad break on ITV

C5 just don't give a ****, the BB18 promotion (if you can even call it that) was the worst ever. I can barely remember the advert :conf:

[T*]

Yeah wasn't there a BBC article which said that 60% of BB viewers were over 50 or something :skull:

I think so :worry:

[T*]

The Love Island promotion this year was insane, I must've seen or heard (I still have the music in my head) the ad over 100 times, it was on like every ad break on ITV

C5 just don't give a ****, the BB18 promotion (if you can even call it that) was the worst ever. I can barely remember the advert :conf:

You're right omfg
I can literally recall the LI song and ad perfectly in my head

[Oaker]

As much as I hate what C5 have done with the show I don't think it's completely fair to blame them on how tacky it is. Most of that started in CBB7 and BB11 and C5 just continued with it.

[Jodie.]

Oh yes, that's why Channel 4 made BB5 an 'evil' series and brought in viewers after they gave the format a shakeup...
Half your C4 cons don't make sense other than if you've only watched like bb4 or something...

I’m talking about compared to C5.
BB1-4: all similar
BB5-11: the same concept; they all had slight variations but they were basically the same

BB12-13: TOWIE type series, completely different to C4
BB14-16: Introduction to themes
BB17: “the game is changing”

What I’m trying to say is, C5 try to make each series completely different; whereas C4 used the same basic concept every series

[T*]

As much as I hate what C5 have done with the show I don't think it's completely fair to blame them on how tacky it is. Most of that started in CBB7 and BB11 and C5 just continued with it.

They've had 6 years to sort it out, they can hardly say 'it's all we knew from the last C4 series!'

[Greg!]

As much as I hate what C5 have done with the show I don't think it's completely fair to blame them on how tacky it is. Most of that started in CBB7 and BB11 and C5 just continued with it.

I agree, but Channel 5's editing is in a whole new league of tackyness. If it was still on channel 4 they would have listened and made the editing less horrific but Channel 5 always seem to do the complete opposite of what people want. It's infuriating.

[Gstar]

As much as I hate what C5 have done with the show I don't think it's completely fair to blame them on how tacky it is. Most of that started in CBB7 and BB11 and C5 just continued with it.

They are completely to blame on how tacky it is

[T*]

I’m talking about compared to C5.
BB1-4: all similar
BB5-11: the same concept; they all had slight variations but they were basically the same

BB12-13: TOWIE type series, completely different to C4
BB14-16: Introduction to themes
BB17: “the game is changing”

What I’m trying to say is, C5 try to make each series completely different; whereas C4 used the same basic concept every series

The themes that lasted for like 3 days and the game that was changed for like nanosecond :think:

[Greg!]

Everyone complains about BB when this website is for and called BB.

Maybe that's because they don't like what the show has become and want it back to its glory days?

[armand.kay]

Everyone complains about BB when this website is for and called BB.

Sorry just because we're fans of the show are me meant to kiss its arse even after producers have ignored us for years

[Jodie.]

The themes that lasted for like 3 days and the game that was changed for like nanosecond :think:

Well they tried to make it different and it was my opinion, no need to question everything I say

[Gstar]

The only theme I remember/had most potential was BB15s but idk how long the power HM thing lasted for as I switched off after Toya left

[T*]

Everyone complains about BB when this website is for and called BB.

We're still allowed to chat about our opinions on the show and talk about previous series compared to the current state of it...
And no it's not just for BB, Scroll down :thumbs:

[T*]

Well they tried to make it different and it was my opinion, no need to question everything I say

C4 made it different and their themes were MUCH more consistent than C5's.

[Greg!]

Sorry just because we're fans of the show are me meant to kiss its arse even after producers have ignored us for years

:clap1:

They've literally had the show for 6 years and they haven't taken one single positive step to improve the production of the show. Maybe one exception was when they introduced daily live feed for BB14 (which COINCIDENTALLY is their highest rated series ever) but then they scrapped it the next year for no apparent reason.

[T*]

Sorry just because we're fans of the show are me meant to kiss its arse even after producers have ignored us for years

:clap2:

[Gstar]

I don't think they did. C5 had clearer themes that were even shown in the eyes.

So did C4, difference is C5s lasted a week.

[T*]

I don't think they did. C5 had clearer themes that were even shown in the eyes.

By clearer themes do you just mean they slapped a subtitle onto the series and took it off in week 3?

[Gstar]

Do you not think the houses have been better? Or the casts especially the celebrities?

We're not talking about CBB. CBB is amazing on channel 5

[Greg!]

Do you not think the houses have been better? Or the casts especially the celebrities?

Some have, some haven't. I'm talking about the production and editing of the show which is dire compared to the channel 4 years.

[Gstar]

By clearer themes do you just mean they slapped a subtitle onto the series and took it off in week 3?

BB: Power trip teas

[T*]

Do you not think the houses have been better? Or the casts especially the celebrities?

Houses? Not at all - it looks alright in the promo pics and then on air it looks disastarous.

[Jason.]

Idk C5's themes are just their way to pull more ridiculous and unneeded stunts that destroy the show. I'd rather C4's subtle themes like Unlucky BB6 or Twisted BB7, which at least didn't tamper with the format.

[Greg!]

Production has been updated so it will be different. Some people just complain about everything. What do you like about BB then?

It's not just different, it's ****e. Just accept that people have different opinions.

I still like BB partly because of entertaining housemates and partly out of loyalty. I just don't like how it's produced or edited now.

[T*]

It's not just different, it's ****e. Just accept that people have different opinions.

I still like BB partly because of entertaining housemates and partly out of loyalty. I just don't like how it's produced or edited now.

^

[Oaker]

Anyway at this point they best we can do is hope BB gets moved to a better channel in the next few years since C5 are obviously planning to axe it.

[Jodie.]

I agree with BBUK-Fan.

Don’t get me wrong I love this forum but people are so negative nowadays tbh. How can C5 return BB back to its glory days (BB5,6,7) when the later series on C4 couldn’t?

C5 have made a decent job to modernise BB imo, and when you think about it they do listen to their fans. They gave us LF in BB14, they stopped with the themes, etc. People will moan either way, for example: BB18 has been getting low ratings - People will complain about a desperate twist but then people will complain about it being too boring.

Last week on Twitter after Fight Night, I saw loads of tweets saying it was too violent and argument-heavy. When there is happiness though, people complain it’s dull and boring? It doesn’t make sense and I appreciate C5 for modernising BB

[Greg!]

Anyway at this point they best we can do is hope BB gets moved to a better channel in the next few years since C5 are obviously planning to axe it.

Praying :fc:

I hoped ITV would maybe buy it but I don't think they'd touch it with a barge poll now. Best realistic scenario would be C5 axing it and another channel bringing it back in a few years. It needs a rest.

[Gstar]

Anyway. Off to watch Love Island

[armand.kay]

I get constant complaints from a group of friends so I go by that

can't be that often when they've only aired one sex scene.

[Daniel-X]

LI by far, this series has really blown it out the water. BB18 has been so up and down, the last week or so has been complete and utter piss.

[Samm]

If they actually put effort into it like BB14's first week and hype they would grab some viewers, didn't sallie's eviction get like 2 million viewers

[Macie Lightfoot]

Idk C5's themes are just their way to pull more ridiculous and unneeded stunts that destroy the show. I'd rather C4's subtle themes like Unlucky BB6 or Twisted BB7, which at least didn't tamper with the format.

yeah C5's "themes" are as shoddy as Grodner's ideas for twists in BBUS. All they do is give the series an edgy-sounding subtitle and trot out the same interference with nominations to the point where you're more likely to be evicted as result of some random ****ing twist than anything you actually did to get nominated and evicted.