Raph manipulating Ellie and Simone

[RhysJones]

Anyone else saw how Raph manipulated Ellie into not believing what Simone said about him going to Chanelle, Hannah and Deborah with stuff others have said about them and bating them. Making out that she's been lead on by Simone. And as well making Simone cry about nominating him because 'I thought we were developing a strong connection' because god forbid no one is allowed to go against Raph. Saw a sneaky side to him tonight

[The Grinch]

:nono:

[thisisdanny]

Simone is telling him that the public hate him and think he's sneaky, when really he's one of the favourites to win and is loved by the majority.

Simone tells lies.

Simone cannot be trusted.

[JTM45]

That bloody Raph with his fancy ways!
It's witchcraft i tell you.

About time Simone had a wake-up call!
Just because she's a thicko doesn't excuse her from not having a single original thought or opinion. Everything she's said is just something she's repeating from BOTS instead of her having formed her own opinions from watching the show.
Anyone who has watched BB for any length of time should really be aware that BOTS these days is the propaganda machine of a Channel 5 BB Production team. They're not even subtle about it.
I think she's got a very good chance of being the first of the 2nd chancers to be evicted.

[DouglasS]

He was being honest. Simone is the gameplayer. She's literally going off a single BOTS episode she once saw and based her nominations off that and then claimed that nomination to be of the publics. I'm not sure she realised the peoples housemate twist ended weeks ago and that she didn't actually get voted in as the peoples housemate. I think you're reaching to be honest.

[RhysJones]

Simone never said that the public dislike him, everyone that's gone in there has said he's one that could win which is true, she said that they've seen the sneaky side to him which the public agree with since he was voted biggest gameplayer and most two faced.

[DouglasS]

Simone never said that the public dislike him, everyone that's gone in there has said he's one that could win which is true, she said that they've seen the sneaky side to him which the public agree with since he was voted biggest gameplayer and most two faced.

I wouldn't count a poll that probably 100 people voted on as the public. I'd consider the most recent vote as the public and Raph had the fewest votes to evict. Considering VTE is a 'negative/dislike' vote, Simone choosing to nominate Raph based on the public is flawed. Raph is the LEAST hated houseguest of the public as of right now.

[RhysJones]

That bloody Raph with his fancy ways!
It's witchcraft i tell you.

About time Simone had a wake-up call!
Just because she's a thicko doesn't excuse her from not having a single original thought or opinion. Everything she's said is just something she's repeating from BOTS instead of her having formed her own opinions from watching the show.
Anyone who has watched BB for any length of time should really be aware that BOTS these days is the propaganda machine of a Channel 5 BB Production team. They're not even subtle about it.
I think she's got a very good chance of being the first of the 2nd chancers to be evicted.

I agree she'll be the first to go most probably but you can't say that BOTS is against Raph. They might have disagreed with him being sly the week he was going around bating Hannah and Deborah with gossip from what others said. But this week they've been firm Raph fans.

[RhysJones]

I wouldn't count a poll that probably 100 people voted on as the public. I'd consider the most recent vote as the public and Raph had the fewest votes to evict. Considering VTE is a 'negative/dislike' vote, Simone choosing to nominate Raph based on the public is flawed. Raph is the LEAST hated houseguest of the public as of right now.

People do think he's sly but that doesn't translate to VTE votes. But Simone said that the public basically think he's sly and calculative and manipulative which he is and most would agree to that.

[DouglasS]

People do think he's sly but that doesn't translate to VTE votes. But Simone said that the public basically think he's sly and calculative and manipulative which he is and most would agree to that.
I disagree that most would agree to that. I think the minority believe that. Raph wouldn't be cheered every single week, top almost all polls, be one of the favorites to win the whole show and then be the least disliked housemate as of now by a public vote if the majority of the public found him sly or manipulative.

[RhysJones]

I disagree that most would agree to that. I think the minority believe that. Raph wouldn't be cheered every single week, top almost all polls, be one of the favorites to win the whole show and then be the least disliked housemate as of now by a public vote if the majority of the public found him sly or manipulative.

He gets the 'I'm normal, I am' vote like Ellie does. People think that the likes of Hannah, Chanelle, Joe and Sue aren't normal people because they're argumentative while Raph isn't. He will most probably win and join the growing list of tragic winners like Jason, Sam and Chloe except they would've all done more than him in that house

[Jack_]

He will most probably win and join the growing list of tragic winners like Jason, Sam and Chloe except they would've all done more than him in that house

tragic winners like Jason, Sam and Chloe

except they would've all done more than him in that house

tragic winners like Sam

would've done more than him in that house

tragic winners like Sam

done more than him in that house

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[DouglasS]

I can understand that Raph isn't the 'star of the series', or one of the biggest characters, he is one of the quieter ones. But he is not on the level of quiet as Sam from BB14. Sam from BB14 was nice, but a little too quiet/boring for me. He was beyond Rachel Rice, who again was nice. Although I'm happy good people won, I need a little more substance. Raph certainly has more substance. Charlotte winning would be the equivalent of Sam [She probably has even done more tbh]. I'd say Raph is a bigger character than Charlotte and Kieran.

[armand.kay]

Raph has been great I would be happy with him as the winner.

[Brother Leon]

Raph isn dumb. He's been saved in a VTS and a VTE. If he's as hated on the outside as Simeone said he was then he wouldn't still be there.

[iRyan]

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[ChristmasNeeve]

Simone is telling him that the public hate him and think he's sneaky, when really he's one of the favourites to win and is loved by the majority.

Simone tells lies.

Simone cannot be trusted.

Truth

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

How is Raph the most hated if he had the least amount of votes to evict? :crazy:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Simone is telling him that the public hate him and think he's sneaky, when really he's one of the favourites to win and is loved by the majority.

Simone tells lies.

Simone cannot be trusted.
Not all people think he's two faced. Most think he's a nice guy I the wouldn't top the Tellymix poll and he wouldn't get the lest votes to evict. Also he's on e of the favorites to win.

[Littlegreen]

He can't do anything it seems without it being labelled "shifty", "two-faced", "manipulative" or "gameplaying".

God forbid he tries to stop somebody he gets on with (Ellie) believing a load of bullcrap that comes from Simone!

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

He can't do anything it seems without it being labelled "shifty", "two-faced", "manipulative" or "gameplaying".

God forbid he tries to stop somebody he gets on with (Ellie) believing a load of bullcrap that comes from Simone!

Just because he's a superfan some people think he's a snake. Like being a fan is a crime.

[chuff me dizzy]

Anyone else saw how Raph manipulated Ellie into not believing what Simone said about him going to Chanelle, Hannah and Deborah with stuff others have said about them and bating them. Making out that she's been lead on by Simone. And as well making Simone cry about nominating him because 'I thought we were developing a strong connection' because god forbid no one is allowed to go against Raph. Saw a sneaky side to him tonight

Did I not tell you all on day 2 he was Snake Boy ?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Simone gameplan has been exposed.

[RhysJones]

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True though, all he's done is nestle himself between Chanelle's cheeks and **** stir

[Patricia4]

I think he's sneaky

[RhysJones]

None of you listening to what Simone and I are saying. I'm not saying he's the most hated, but people see him as a bit of a snake and a massive gameplayer yet most can get past that as most think there are worse in there

[Littlegreen]

I haven't seen a "gameplayer", I've seen somebody try to be a good friend to those he is closest to, while also trying to not upset the apple-cart.

Because he is such an introverted, shy person I think it gets misread as being "sneaky".

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I haven't seen a "gameplayer", I've seen somebody try to be a good friend to those he is closest to, while also trying to not upset the apple-cart.

Because he is such an introverted, shy person I think it gets misread as being "sneaky".

Yes, he admitted he's not good with new people and takes him a while to come out of his shell.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

creepy and sneaky

[chuff me dizzy]

True though, all he's done is nestle himself between Chanelle's cheeks and **** stir

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[johne]

I think the dislike of Raph comes from peoples subconscious fear/suspiscion/envy for intelligent housemates. It's similar to the problem "posh" housemates experience who generally are disliked to some extent solely because they are different to the stereotypical extrovert chav housemate.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I think the dislike of Raph comes from peoples subconscious fear/suspiscion/envy for intelligent housemates. It's similar to the problem "posh" housemates experience who generally are disliked to some extent solely because they are different to the stereotypical extrovert chav housemate.

I agree. Also he's very shy and it takes him a while to get comfortable with new people. But he's trying to be more open.

[Jack_]

True though, all he's done is nestle himself between Chanelle's cheeks and **** stir

:clap1:

**** stirring is the sign of a good housemate though so I don't know how that's a criticism

Look, I'm not saying he'd be the best winner ever because he wouldn't. But Sam Evans is the worst and most underserving winner of any reality show ever broadcast, he literally did nothing and nobody will ever beat him on that count. Even Charlotte has contributed more to this series than Sam did to his

[ChristmasNeeve]

**** stirring is the sign of a good housemate though so I don't know how that's a criticism

Look, I'm not saying he'd be the best winner ever because he wouldn't. But Sam Evans is the worst and most underserving winner of any reality show ever broadcast, he literally did nothing and nobody will ever beat him on that count. Even Charlotte has contributed more to this series than Sam did to his

he did say my winky is expanding multiple times tbf :worry: