Was Raph Criticising Rachel Rice?

[ABCZYX]

I like Raph and I know that Raph is a member of these forums, so I thought I'd ask this question here, as hopefully I'll be able to get an answer.

On tonight's BOTS, Sue said something about people in previous series have made pacts about the prize money, and Raph mentioned Rachel. Was he criticising her, because I thought he was a fan of hers. We were both actually members of her Facebook fan page, so I was surprised to see this on tonight's BOTS.

Is he now no longer a fan of hers? What happened to make him change his opinion of her?

[DouglasS]

He drastically changed his opinion on Rachel, I'm unsure why - something post BB9 from my understanding.

But yes he used to be a massive supporter of Rachel, hes even made a youtube fan video
wA7Tl79Gduc

[LukeB]

I like Raph and I know that Raph is a member of these forums, so I thought I'd ask this question here, as hopefully I'll be able to get an answer.

On tonight's BOTS, Sue said something about people in previous series have made pacts about the prize money, and Raph mentioned Rachel. Was he criticising her, because I thought he was a fan of hers. We were both actually members of her Facebook fan page, so I was surprised to see this on tonight's BOTS.

Is he now no longer a fan of hers? What happened to make him change his opinion of her?

he loved her then turned on her but i don't want to say why in public because i don't want to ruin peoples view on Rachel. so i rather not say.

[Samm]

he loved her then turned on her but i don't want to say why in public because i don't want to ruin peoples view on Rachel. so i rather not say.

c'mon babes what could be so drastic ahhh miss rachel rice confessed to killing princess di?

[armand.kay]

he loved her then turned on her but i don't want to say why in public because i don't want to ruin peoples view on Rachel. so i rather not say.

tea pls.

[Gstar]

he loved her then turned on her but i don't want to say why in public because i don't want to ruin peoples view on Rachel. so i rather not say.

You've already boiled the kettle

[ABCZYX]

I've had a look at some of his past posts, and I came across this one: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7128189&postcount=83

He says that she was a personal friend and that he knew her before Big Brother.

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

[armand.kay]

You've already boiled the kettle

Miss samm brought the mugs

[Jason.]

c'mon babes what could be so drastic ahhh miss rachel rice confessed to killing princess di?

:joker:

[Samm]

well c'mon we are all on edge

https://m.popkey.co/84dc74/wEdDA.gif

[Barry.]

I love Rachel but do tell.

[Headie]

Miss samm brought the mugs

The teabags are out the cupboards

[Gstar]

I've had a look at some of his past posts, and I came across this one: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7128189&postcount=83

He says that she was a personal friend and that he knew her before Big Brother.

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

Thanks Salman

[Samm]

why does she look so old ahhh https://mobile.twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/761442351554371584

[Jack_]

Well I've never liked Rachel, so whatever it is it sure won't change my opinion of her :hehe:

[Macie Lightfoot]

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

nnnnnn

[Gstar]

Well I've never liked Rachel, so whatever it is it sure won't change my opinion of her :hehe:

How can you not like Rachel :(

[Jack_]

How can you not like Rachel :(

I'm sure she's a nice person (or maybe not :o) but I considered her the worst winner ever until Sam Evans became a thing, so

[Macie Lightfoot]

and yeah I highly doubt whatever terrible thing Rachel did or did not do isn't going to change my opinion of her. I was actually considering starting up a BB9 watch soon so I could fall in love with her all over again :love:

[Barry.]

Well I've never liked Rachel, so whatever it is it sure won't change my opinion of her :hehe:

Rude.

[Jack_]

Rude.

http://i.imgur.com/zoFQR4A.gif

[Gstar]

I'm sure she's a nice person (or maybe not :o) but I considered her the worst winner ever until Sam Evans became a thing, so

So we're gonna pretend that Helen doesn't exist

[Jack_]

So we're gonna pretend that Helen doesn't exist

Um...it's probably best that we do :joker:

[JTM45]

I never understood how the **** Rachel won, especially when legendary banana puchaser Rex was in there..............and Australian Goddess Sara Folino.:love:

The sum total i can actually remember about Rachel is that she liked grapes and was incredibly bland. Was there more ? :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

How can you not like Rachel :(

She won a year that had alot of strong characters and to say that she was boring is an understatement.

If she was male the Forums would've been having a meltdown at how boring Rachel was.

[Black Dagger]

Rachel wasnt boring.

[armand.kay]

Rachel's win was a happy and emotional moment for the whole nation.

[y.winter]

Rachel is the best thing that ever happened to BB. Fact.

[Denver]

I've had a look at some of his past posts, and I came across this one: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7128189&postcount=83

He says that she was a personal friend and that he knew her before Big Brother.

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

So he turned on her because she exposed his lies?

[Denver]

how can he be a personal friend to someone double his age at 12 anyway

[Denver]

882115917030854656

Rachel ended the bitter idiot

[y.winter]

9 years on. What a woman :clap2:

[AarynGriesfan]

#raphexposedparty. :dance:

[Macie Lightfoot]

#internetsafety

[Jordan.]

He stopped stanning her cause she wouldn't meet him? :unsure:

[Samm]

mess so that's the big reason, i'm shook rachel is evil

[Cal.]

Wasn't he like 13 when she did BB

[chuff me dizzy]

How on Gods green earth can HE of all people criticise one the the most boring winners of any BB ? he's hardly set the house on fire with fun and dry wit :bored: He makes Rachel and Cameron look interesting

[Vanessa]

Wasn't he like 13 when she did BB

He was very young at the time, yes.

[Wizard.]

I've had a look at some of his past posts, and I came across this one: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7128189&postcount=83

He says that she was a personal friend and that he knew her before Big Brother.

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

Raph is a confirmed LIAR after saying he was born in Wales, Sweden, Switzerland and now Paris I mean you can only be born in one place.

[Littlegreen]

There's got to be more to it surely?

Saying that at 13 things are heightened especially if he was infatuated with her at the time.

[Wizard.]

882115917030854656

Rachel ended the bitter idiot

Raph the internet groomer? No but in all seriousness Sophie Reade was the best CH4 BB winner so suck on those apples Rachel.

[chuff me dizzy]

Raph is a confirmed LIAR after saying he was born in Wales, Sweden, Switzerland and now Paris I mean you can only be born in one place.

I thought that too

[chuff me dizzy]

Raph the internet groomer? No but in all seriousness Sophie Reade was the best CH4 BB winner so suck on those apples Rachel.

Stalker !! weirdo :umm2:

[Ross.]

882115917030854656

Rachel ended the bitter idiot

Me and Lostie are shook

[y.winter]

Raph the internet groomer? No but in all seriousness Sophie Reade was the best CH4 BB winner so suck on those apples Rachel.
*grapes

[LukeB]

Rachel not meeting Raph is not the reason why he turned on her. :pipe: i will let him tell you all when he gets out

[Niamh.]

What did he say about her on the show, I must have missed that?

[Cal.]

Rachel not meeting Raph is not the reason why he turned on her. :pipe: i will let him tell you all when he gets out

STOP trolling now.

[Littlegreen]

Rachel not meeting Raph is not the reason why he turned on her. :pipe: i will let him tell you all when he gets out

I can't wait for the revelations. :hehe:

[Greg!]

he loved her then turned on her but i don't want to say why in public because i don't want to ruin peoples view on Rachel. so i rather not say.

Spill!

[Ross.]

Rachel not meeting Raph is not the reason why he turned on her. :pipe: i will let him tell you all when he gets out

You cow!

[TaylorCallum]

Raph CANCELLED.

I cannot accept him hating the best winner in Big Brother history. #raphisoverparty

[Littlegreen]

Rex not winning that year still smarts.

[Lostie!]

and yeah I highly doubt whatever terrible thing Rachel did or did not do isn't going to change my opinion of her. I was actually considering starting up a BB9 watch soon so I could fall in love with her all over again :love:

All of this tbh

[TaylorCallum]

This is the most exciting thing that's happened this entire series, I'm intrigued to know why Raph doesn't like Rachel anymore. She's a legend.

[Vanessa]

I never liked Rachel Rice. She was so boring she made Sam look interesting.

[Denver]

Makes you think what else has he lied about?

[Ashley.]

I've had a look at some of his past posts, and I came across this one: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7128189&postcount=83

He says that she was a personal friend and that he knew her before Big Brother.

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

:laugh2::rolleyes:

[TaylorCallum]

I've had a look at some of his past posts, and I came across this one: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7128189&postcount=83

He says that she was a personal friend and that he knew her before Big Brother.

But what I find interesting is that on launch night, Rachel posted on her Twitter that she has never actually met him: https://twitter.com/Rachel_Rice9/status/871839628445319168

Wait I'm confused. Raph claiming he knew Rachel before BB and then she said they've never met? :joker:. Was he trolling? This is a mess.

[Amy Jade]

If he stopped liking her because she refused to meet him that's really sad. Why would a teacher nearing her 30's meet up with a teenage boy

[supertv247]

:shocked:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2lxas14.jpg

[Gstar]

Rachel not meeting Raph is not the reason why he turned on her. :pipe: i will let him tell you all when he gets out

Girl stop!

[Cherie]

You've already boiled the kettle

:joker:

[Cherie]

:shocked:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2lxas14.jpg



oh....

[azi]

Omg Raph exposed as a stalker... Chan better be wary http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_193.gif

[Cal.]

Omg Raph exposed as a stalker... Chan better be wary http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_193.gif

Him not to like the person she's become post show when he discovers she's been on Ex on the Beach?

[storybrooke]

Hopefully he can clear this up when he gets out of the house

[Cal.]

Raph phoning up the 'Find a New Friend' Agency when he gets out upon learning Luke could have cleared his name regarding this issue but chose not to?

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

[y.winter]

Looks like he got carried away with a fan fantasy? It's easy to do these things on the internet without fully sticking to reality?

Rachel is a lovely person. I have no doubt it's bull****.

[T*]

The poor girl thinks she can use hashtags on notes </3

[LukeB]

Raph phoning up the 'Find a New Friend' Agency when he gets out upon learning Luke could have cleared his name regarding this issue but chose not to?

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

me trying to phone big brother to speak to Raph if he wants it revealed?
https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

I seriously think it would be better coming from him because i'm unsure if he wants people to know because he told me in person not on here and i wouldn't reveal something without their permission. but i can confirm 100% it's not about her not meeting him but it's not something really bad like prison worthy or she killed an animal.

[Pete.]

Rachel is throwing hard shade :joker:

[Samm]

me phoning 999 to tell the them LukeB is withholding valuable police information

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

[T*]

Rachel if you're reading this buy 'Not just anybody' and 'I got U' on iTunes!

[Littlegreen]

Rachel if you're reading this buy 'Not just anybody' and 'I got U' on iTunes!

:laugh2:


Has Rachel got a third nipple or something?

[Ross.]

Guys THE Rachel Rice was on TiBB

HI

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d442cecaad6bd89ea72a4cbc1409c3c5/tumblr_inline_obcicuuDs41r2ya1z_500.gif

[Ross.]

Also Macie hun Rachel gave you promo in that post you have been rewarded for your stanning!

[T*]

Can we interview the random cup she brought on the winners walk http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_193.gif

[DouglasS]

Based on the clip on BOTS itself, It was to do with making a pact to share the prize fund. Possibly he found out Rachel agreed to share the prize fund and didn't through some of the other big brother 9 houeseguests or something and it changed his opinion. This is purely just speculative.

[Ross.]

agreed to share the prize fund and didn't

Me http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_193.gif

[y.winter]

Guys THE Rachel Rice was on TiBB

HI

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d442cecaad6bd89ea72a4cbc1409c3c5/tumblr_inline_obcicuuDs41r2ya1z_500.gif

We are blessed :worship:

[Wizard.]

:shocked:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2lxas14.jpg

Screaming at Rachel's expose

[Lostie!]

NOTICE ME!!! @Rachel

[Amy Jade]

She's actually lovely. She should join here :)

[y.winter]

Considering previous questionable statements from Raph (including his own mom dismissing the Trump thing) - I take it with a pinch of salt...

Rachel is a wonderful person :love:

[Denver]

Can we interview the random cup she brought on the winners walk http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_193.gif

It was actually Mikey's glass he forgot

[azi]

Is he a pathological liar?
He lies a lot.
And from the age of 13!!!
I don't trust anything he says anymore.

https://media.giphy.com/media/qE1Vxd7SHLFaU/giphy.gif

[ABCZYX]

Based on the clip on BOTS itself, It was to do with making a pact to share the prize fund. Possibly he found out Rachel agreed to share the prize fund and didn't through some of the other big brother 9 houeseguests or something and it changed his opinion. This is purely just speculative.

I have wondered this, but is he referring to the pact that Davina referred to on her Big Mouth interview when Rex and Darnell mentioned about sharing the £100,000 prize between all the finalists so that they would all get the same amount of money? If he is, then Rachel wasn't part of it. She was aware of it, as she confirmed she was when Davina asked her, but it wasn't her idea. She didn't make any pact. When Davina asked her if she would consider sharing it out, she said that she would give £10,000 to charity.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also Macie hun Rachel gave you promo in that post you have been rewarded for your stanning!

asdfghjkl; is this what fame feels like???

[Black Dagger]

Welp. I love her. This is messy.

[armand.kay]

Raph phoning up the 'Find a New Friend' Agency when he gets out upon learning Luke could have cleared his name regarding this issue but chose not to?

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

"Thank you for calling LukeC will be on his way shortly"
https://uploadir.com/u/mvbkxh66

[Cherie]

its interesting that they showed it and now Rachel has confirmed what actually happened I wonder if the prods will expose his web of fibs..:laugh:

its almost as bad as when he said he had the quiz questions ready to start Christmas day..:hehe:

[Headie]

"Thank you for calling LukeC will be on his way shortly"
https://uploadir.com/u/mvbkxh66

:joker:

[ABCZYX]

me trying to phone big brother to speak to Raph if he wants it revealed?
https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

I seriously think it would be better coming from him because i'm unsure if he wants people to know because he told me in person not on here and i wouldn't reveal something without their permission. but i can confirm 100% it's not about her not meeting him but it's not something really bad like prison worthy or she killed an animal.

With all due respect, if you're not going to mention what it is, why did you bring it up in the first place? It just makes things more confusing.

[Barry.]

With all due respect, if you're not going to mention what it is, why did you bring it up in the first place? It just makes things more confusing.

Are you Rachel?

[ABCZYX]

Are you Rachel?

No, just a fan of Rachel, as I explained in my first post on this thread saying that me and Raph were both members of her Facebook fan page.

[Ashley.]

me trying to phone big brother to speak to Raph if he wants it revealed?
https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

I seriously think it would be better coming from him because i'm unsure if he wants people to know because he told me in person not on here and i wouldn't reveal something without their permission. but i can confirm 100% it's not about her not meeting him but it's not something really bad like prison worthy or she killed an animal.

Prison worthy? All the more reason to reveal it then, surely. It's not up to you OR Raph to keep it a secret.

[T*]

He said it's not prison worthy ash -slaps you in the gob-

[Ant.]

Prison worthy? All the more reason to reveal it then, surely. It's not up to you OR Raph to keep it a secret.

I can't believe Rachel Rice murdered Raph

[LukeB]

Prison worthy? All the more reason to reveal it then, surely. It's not up to you OR Raph to keep it a secret.

I said it's not prison worthy

[T*]

CONSPIRACY THEORY
Rachel Rice from Wales is ACTUALLY QUEEN OF WALES RACHEL LESTER
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02325/rachel_2325130k.jpg

[TaylorCallum]

CONSPIRACY THEORY
Rachel Rice from Wales is ACTUALLY QUEEN OF WALES RACHEL LESTER
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02325/rachel_2325130k.jpg

Rachel Rice to perform a rendition of Sugar Walls at the BOTS finale while Rylan tries to push his way on stage and get more camera time?

[reece(:]

This conspiracy.... a mess!

[Ashley.]

I said it's not prison worthy

Sorry I misread.

Honestly if he's claiming to have something on her that nobody else knows (hence why we're not allowed to know), yet we've already found out that he's not as "personal" with her as he said, then all signs point to this, whatever this is, being just another one of his lies.

[T*]

'Welcome to Ultimate Big Brother 2018, here's Housemate #1 - Rachel Rice!'
http://i.imgur.com/jlOaqM3.jpg

[andybigbro]

Was this discussed on BOTS recently? :conf2:

[Denver]

Sorry I misread.

Honestly if he's claiming to have something on her that nobody else knows (hence why we're not allowed to know), yet we've already found out that he's not as "personal" with her as he said, then all signs point to this, whatever this is, being just another one of his lies.

The kettle has just boiled

[LukeB]

Sorry I misread.

Honestly if he's claiming to have something on her that nobody else knows (hence why we're not allowed to know), yet we've already found out that he's not as "personal" with her as he said, then all signs point to this, whatever this is, being just another one of his lies.

i'm unsure if you are allowed to know at all because he didn't say don't tell people or gave me permission to tell. when someone tells me something i just won't repeat it. It's not really my story to tell and I guess you have to wait the full story about it when he comes back on. it's not another one of his lies at all, it's just a mess and it shouldn't be made into a big deal, like his comment on bots was probably nothing.

[andybigbro]

What happened on bots

[Amy Jade]

It sounds like she forgot to reply to one of his messages and he flipped or something lol

[Denver]

i'm unsure if you are allowed to know at all because he didn't say don't tell people or gave me permission to tell. when someone tells me something i just won't repeat it. It's not really my story to tell and I guess you have to wait the full story about it when he comes back on. it's not another one of his lies at all, it's just a mess and it shouldn't be made into a big deal, like his comment on bots was probably nothing.

How do you know its not a lie?

[Barry.]

i'm unsure if you are allowed to know at all because he didn't say don't tell people or gave me permission to tell. when someone tells me something i just won't repeat it. It's not really my story to tell and I guess you have to wait the full story about it when he comes back on. it's not another one of his lies at all, it's just a mess and it shouldn't be made into a big deal, like his comment on bots was probably nothing.

So you boil the kettle but don't pour the tea.

[Jack_]

He's always avoided the subject whenever asked on here so I genuinely think he still won't say, the mystery continues!

[LukeB]

What happened on bots

Simone was talking about splitting the money and sue said other people in the past said that and Raph mentioned Rachel. it's like seriously nothing lol :skull:

[Jason.]

Simone was talking about splitting the money and sue said other people in the past said that and Raph mentioned Rachel. it's like seriously nothing lol :skull:

Then spit it out!

[LukeB]

He's always avoided the subject whenever asked on here so I genuinely think he still won't say, the mystery continues!

this is why i don't want to say :laugh:

[LukeB]

Then spit it out!

no

[Jason.]

Boring

[Denver]

Well if he lied about being great friends with her then im convinced this is another lie

[TaylorCallum]

Luke getting interrogated harder than Joe on BOTS :joker:.

To be fair he is just being a good friend and not revealing something that he isn't sure whether Raph wants people to know or not, so I guess we'll just need to wait.

[Ashley.]

i'm unsure if you are allowed to know at all because he didn't say don't tell people or gave me permission to tell. when someone tells me something i just won't repeat it. It's not really my story to tell and I guess you have to wait the full story about it when he comes back on. it's not another one of his lies at all, it's just a mess and it shouldn't be made into a big deal, like his comment on bots was probably nothing.

Just seems like a strange thing to be all secretive over considering he doesn't actually know her personally, as was found out this evening.

Like, if I suddenly started hating a celebrity and someone asked me why, I wouldn't feel inclined to keep it a secret. What would be the point? :shrug:

[LukeB]

Just seems like a strange thing to be all secretive over considering he doesn't actually know her personally, as was found out this evening.

Like, if I suddenly started hating a celebrity and someone asked me why, I wouldn't feel inclined to keep it a secret. What would be the point? :shrug:

well seeing as he avoids the subject makes me think definitely not because it's know known he dislikes Rachel but he always avoids it the question.

[Moosething]

I read 5 pages & still nothing uGh

[Gstar]

this is why i don't want to say :laugh:

Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead