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sampvt
04-07-2017, 06:08 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:09 PM
He did not finger Chanelle :skull: stop reaching

Santa's NaughtiNess
04-07-2017, 06:10 PM
Let me guess. Another Raph hate thread. They're popping up like mushrooms these days. Someone is a threat to their favourite winning :hee:

sampvt
04-07-2017, 06:11 PM
He did not finger Chanelle :skull: stop reaching

She said he did and he didnt deny it plus you were not there so untill he denies it, hes guilty of a crime that defies all logic.

chuff me dizzy
04-07-2017, 06:11 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

:worship:

SteveG2688
04-07-2017, 06:11 PM
This thread is BS

Macie Lightfoot
04-07-2017, 06:11 PM
Actually Vanessa I see plenty more threads by you trying to make him out to be the unchosen one.

Santa's NaughtiNess
04-07-2017, 06:12 PM
This thread is BS

:clap1:

sampvt
04-07-2017, 06:12 PM
Let me guess. Another Raph hate thread. They're popping up like mushrooms these days. Someone is a threat to their favourite winning :hee:

You confuse hate with facts. Lotans threads were pure vile, this thread is a compilation of facts in evidence.

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:12 PM
She said he did and he didnt deny it plus you were not there so untill he denies it, hes guilty of a crime that defies all logic.

She was joking.

do you know what a joke means? he's gay lmao why would he finger a girl. If he did finger her i'm pretty sure Rylan would make it a big deal on bots and Emma would have made a pun about it but did they no they didn't.

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:13 PM
This thread is BS

:clap1:

T*
04-07-2017, 06:13 PM
http://www.zettlermagnetics.com/genpics/reach.jpg

sampvt
04-07-2017, 06:14 PM
This thread is BS

Be more specific, BS is not a counter argument or even a valid defence.

TaylorCallum
04-07-2017, 06:14 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

1. Who doesn't exaggerate in their VT?

2. Multi-cultural King.

3. Some may be expired.

4. Experimentation is not a bad thing but he didn't even finger her :joker:.

5. He's never used the word bully himself.

6. Nothing wrong with being a gameplayer.

7. He hasn't been flirting, Andrew has been flirting with him.

8. Of course, he's a superfan he'd love to win.

9. I don't think he's 2 faced.

10. Screaming at "abuses narcotics". Someone get him arrested for weed possession tbh.

11. He's a sensitive soul.

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:14 PM
Raph hasn't flirted with Andrew at all. :skull:

sampvt
04-07-2017, 06:15 PM
She was joking.

do you know what a joke means? he's gay lmao why would he finger a girl. If he did finger her i'm pretty sure Rylan would make it a big deal on bots and Emma would have made a pun about it but did they no they didn't.

My point exactly, he is not the man you think he is.

Santa's NaughtiNess
04-07-2017, 06:15 PM
Raph hasn't flirted with Andrew at all. :skull:

It's actually the other way around :laugh:

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:16 PM
In his VT he said he is half Japanese and half american because of his parents
He grew up in Switzerland but he was born in Paris. growing up in Switzerland doesn't mean you were born there .

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:17 PM
My point exactly, he is not the man you think he is.

what point did you make? you are reaching because it didn't happen at all.

Rustic bauble
04-07-2017, 06:17 PM
Actually Vanessa I see plenty more threads by you trying to make him out to be the unchosen one.

:clap1:


What's good for the goose is good for the gander...:cheer2:

Kazanne
04-07-2017, 06:19 PM
In his VT he said he is half Japanese and half american because of his parents
He grew up in Switzerland but he was born in Paris. growing up in Switzerland doesn't mean you were born there .

I thought he said he was Welsh?:shrug:

Rustic bauble
04-07-2017, 06:21 PM
I don't think you are allowed to have more than 2 passports...

As for the fingering thing...don't think he would do that...but I'm with you on most points.

armand.kay
04-07-2017, 06:23 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


1. who doesn't exaggerate in their VT (although not to Raph's extent)

2. I don't think he actually has no one has given any evidence.

3. like someone said some might be expired.

4. THAT WAS A JOKE! Do you seriously believe he fingered her ffs :laugh:

5. Has he actually said himself he's being bullied or is that just his fans?

6. That was in his VT which as you pointed out yourself was a lie.

7. That was in his VT which as you pointed out yourself was a lie.

8. Your opinion not fact.

9. Your opinion not fact.

cba with the other two coz I don't actually know him

sampvt
04-07-2017, 06:23 PM
Update, .....He pretends to know celebs personally. when they deny his very existence so he drops names to big himself up. (Rachael Rice)

armand.kay
04-07-2017, 06:24 PM
I thought he said he was Welsh?:shrug:

he hasn't said this on the show maybe on here at some point but not on the show.

Rustic bauble
04-07-2017, 06:25 PM
I'm coming to the conclusion he can't be trusted..:laugh:

TaylorCallum
04-07-2017, 06:25 PM
I'm hollering at the thought of him coming back here and reading all these messy threads :joker:.

Epic.
04-07-2017, 06:33 PM
Y'know, for someone who hates on Raph so much you sure do like talking about him a lot

Parmy
04-07-2017, 06:34 PM
Lets all face facts, raph is a crap housemate.

chuff me dizzy
04-07-2017, 06:37 PM
Actually Vanessa I see plenty more threads by you trying to make him out to be the unchosen one.

:joker:

chuff me dizzy
04-07-2017, 06:39 PM
I thought he said he was Welsh?:shrug:

He did :joker:

Christmas Dynasnow
04-07-2017, 06:41 PM
Actually Vanessa I see plenty more threads by you trying to make him out to be the unchosen one.

:clap1:

Glenn-C
04-07-2017, 06:41 PM
1. Everyone exaggerates in their VTs, I'd probably say stuff like that too so they'd put me in

2. He only said in the house he was born in Paris, it's other people saying he said he was born somewhere else so :shrug:

3. They might not all be in date

4. He didn't.

5. He doesn't.

6. See 1.

7. Andrew was flirting with him.

8. How do you "try" to win a show when the public vote for you?

9. He got upset over what people were saying about his friends, not him

10. Didn't know about this so I can't say anything.

11. See 9.

Christmas Dynasnow
04-07-2017, 06:42 PM
I liked him at the start but now all this, its very worrying and i feel sorry for his fans as this all gets exposed

:sad:

thisisdanny
04-07-2017, 06:43 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


1. 90% of them lie in their VT.
2. Has never said he was born in different countries, just 1. Has said he's lived elsewhere though.
3. I don't know enough information on this.
4. He didn't finger Chanelle, that's hilarious.
5. Has never once said himself that Joe is bullying him.
6. Your opinion.
7. Your opinion. In my opinion he's just being friendly.
8. Your opinion. I think he's there for both, but who wouldn't want to win?
9. Your opinion. I think he's just sharing with his friends what people have said about them. It makes him loyal.
10. He probably thinks drinking is okay, but getting drunk is not.
11. Your opinion. All enough emotions are heightened in there.

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:43 PM
I liked him at the start but now all this, its very worrying and i feel sorry for his fans as this all gets exposed

:sad:

no you disliked him from the start, so stop lying.

TaylorCallum
04-07-2017, 06:44 PM
I liked him at the start but now all this, its very worrying and i feel sorry for his fans as this all gets exposed

:sad:

Now let's not be telling fibs.

y.winter
04-07-2017, 06:48 PM
The whole Rachel situation does make him lose credibility, since it's not the first time (+dragging lovely Rachel into it).
There's something about Raph, a dissonance between what he truly feels and what he want other people to feel about him. I guess it'll be a lesson for life.

DouglasS
04-07-2017, 06:50 PM
Some of these points are really ridiculous that I'm not sure I'm able to take the post seriously. I do agree that he lied prior to coming on the show though. However many houseguests do it just to get cast.

Christmas Dynasnow
04-07-2017, 06:54 PM
no you disliked him from the start, so stop lying.

Incorrect. He is my personal friend on Tibb

LukeB
04-07-2017, 06:55 PM
Incorrect. He is my personal friend on Tibb

Now you are taking the piss out of him? how nice.

Lostie!
04-07-2017, 07:04 PM
The whole situation with Rachel is undeniably messy but I still haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a particularly horrible person. I've only ever had pleasant interactions with him on here and his personality on BB seems to perfectly line up with how he's always seemed. Fabricating stuff online, while absolutely unhealthy, hardly makes him evil incarnate. There are sometimes more reasons for people exaggerating certain aspects of their lives than simply being evil manipulative scum but I suppose that's the easier thing to believe if you don't like the person to begin with.

Likewise, whatever his reasons for not liking Rachel anymore won't change my view on her whatsoever. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt because I still haven't seen anything that makes me think less of either of them. Until I see inarguable evidence of either being indefensible twats, which I don't think is very likely.

Christmas Dynasnow
04-07-2017, 07:04 PM
Now you are taking the piss out of him? how nice.


I know

How dare someone take the piss out a housemate:shocked:

Do you want me to check your posts to see if you ever have?

:skull:

Christmas Dynasnow
04-07-2017, 07:06 PM
lol can you imagine if this was Lotan?


unbelievable

TaylorCallum
04-07-2017, 07:09 PM
lol can you imagine if this was Lotan?


unbelievable

Raph didn't threaten to beat up women though? Even if he has made a few things up or exaggerated stuff it's not quite as bad as that.

Vicky.
04-07-2017, 07:12 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

Most people do this tbh :laugh: Very very rarely is anyone anything like their entrance VT. Being yourself is not what BB want, you kind of have to make up a version of yourself to get on the show, or at the very least exaggerate yourself a lot

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

I don't think he has said this? Just he holds 4 passports

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

2 active passports I think this would be. He may have other nationality passports that have ran out/been invoked but he still holds the physical passport, if that makes sense.

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

This was clearly a joke between them :laugh: A fair few members seem to have taken this seriously..so maybe it wasn't as clear as I thought it was.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with Joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

This I can agree with. With him and Joe both are as bad as each other. However, as a BBH fan Raph knows that a very effective way of gaining support is to be 'the victim' so I think this might have something to do with it.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

'Everything' he does? How on earth would one be in the BB house and make every little thing they do part of the game? :suspect:

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew. I haven't seen him flirting tbh. Plus 'love' is very different to lust. I know a few people who don't believe in love but shag about. Not saying this is what Raph does mind, but people like that exist. I didn't know he doesn't have emotions though? I don't remember being told this...is he sociopathic?

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

Winning is part of the experience tbh, if you are lucky enough to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

Yes, I agree with this. Can't really run between groups bitching (and exaggerating, and making things up) on then whine when you are called out on it by the public who have watched you do this :D

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

Drinking is nothing to do with drugs. I also thought he just smoked weed, is that classed as a narcotic or is there more I don't know? Most drugs are actually safer than drink, both in terms of behaviour, and health. I didn't know he didn't drink either, sure I have seen him running to the store room once alcohol is announced

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional Never heard him say he is not bothered by insults. But yes, he does seem to get very upset over little comments.



As for being 'the biggest BS merchant ever in BB history', I believe that title belongs to Dexter Koh :D

Jack_
04-07-2017, 07:26 PM
I actually enjoy the international man of mystery vibe he has going on, yes all of this is messy AF but I think it's kinda hilarious that a housemate like him is embroiled in all of it

Much more interesting than many others

Santa's NaughtiNess
04-07-2017, 07:27 PM
I actually enjoy the international man of mystery vibe he has going on, yes all of this is messy AF but I think it's kinda hilarious that a housemate like him is embroiled in all of it

Much more interesting than many others

He's very interesting. Yes!

RhysJones
04-07-2017, 07:29 PM
It's funny how the whole thing with Rebecca saying that Raph has complained to BB about Joe bullying him, and then all of the sudden half of the comments on threads are along the lines of 'Joe is such a vile bully that's been so nasty to Raph, and Raph would never say anything bad behind his back' I hope the voting public aren't sheep like half the people on here

Parmy
04-07-2017, 07:35 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

Nominates ellie for talking about sex yet on day 14 he can be seen writhing on a sunbed as he and charlotte laugh about big dicks hurting.

Parmy
04-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Think some people need to re read this.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231482

pontyboi
04-07-2017, 08:22 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

Everyone's vt is BS the fact he admits it makes him less fake.

Nancy.
04-07-2017, 08:28 PM
RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

::worship::worship:

Alf
04-07-2017, 08:49 PM
History can teach you everything.

In the first ever UK Big Brother, the contestants came up with a little song that they used to sing.

It was four words long, does anybody remember how that song went?

Littlegreen
04-07-2017, 08:51 PM
History can teach you everything.

In the first ever UK Big Brother, the contestants came up with a little song that they used to sing.

It was four words long, does anybody remember how that song went?

"it's only a gameshow"

Awww

Candy Annie Cane
04-07-2017, 08:51 PM
History can teach you everything.

In the first ever UK Big Brother, the contestants came up with a little song that they used to sing.

It was four words long, does anybody remember how that song went?

Lol.....its only a gameshow

Alf
04-07-2017, 08:52 PM
"it's only a gameshow"

AwwwJust realised it's five words, game show is two different words.

Candy Annie Cane
04-07-2017, 08:55 PM
Just realised it's five words, game show is two different words.

Nicola actually released it as a.single iirc

Alf
04-07-2017, 09:02 PM
Nicola actually released it as a.single iircWhat was on the B side, "Whoops there goes another rubber tree plant"?

mr rochester
05-07-2017, 02:07 AM
The B side was "Superfans can win".

bbfanzo
05-07-2017, 04:45 AM
the kids a gimp

Parmy
05-07-2017, 05:41 AM
You defo seem to have an issue with gay people expressing themselves....what's the issue?

Hypocrites. Its hypocrisy i have an issue with.

Merry Mockmas
05-07-2017, 05:41 AM
You confuse hate with facts. Lotans threads were pure vile, this thread is a compilation of facts in evidence.

Alot of the stuff pointed out about Lotan was true though.

Merry Mockmas
05-07-2017, 05:49 AM
Nominates ellie for talking about sex yet on day 14 he can be seen writhing on a sunbed as he and charlotte laugh about big dicks hurting.

I think you're forgetting that it's all Ellie talks about, that was Raph's main reason for nominating Ellie.

But of course it'll get twisted into some sort of weird Fantasy reason.

Parmy
05-07-2017, 07:27 AM
I think you're forgetting that it's all Ellie talks about, that was Raph's main reason for nominating Ellie.

But of course it'll get twisted into some sort of weird Fantasy reason.

If you think that is all ellie talks about you need to give ya head a wobble...hes a hypocrite.