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Macie Lightfoot
05-07-2017, 12:09 AM
SO it has recently been brought to my attention today that there at least two other individuals who have been doing edgic this series and I think that means it's time for an edgic thread :o :o :o

http://i.imgur.com/HfgJyDY.png

https://38.media.tumblr.com/4eff38b45f8c3b51f515752fdfb20f18/tumblr_nrrayuakzH1u6xk6jo3_400.gif

Me trying to decipher what this chart means

so let me break it down for everyone~

History of Edgic: Edgic, a portmanteau of editing and logic, was a tool devised in the early-mid 2000s used to help predict winners of the US reality TV show Survivor. Each contestant was assigned a rating for each episode they appeared in, and their ratings and edits were analyzed in an effort to predict who the winner would be. If you've recently entered the Survivor subforum, you've probably encountered people arguing about whether or not edgic discussions constitutes spoiler tags, mainly stemming from the fact that Michele, the winner of the spring 2016 season of Survivor, was one of the more obvious winners by edgicians and one of the more surprising winners to non-edgicians.

In terms of edgicing BBUK..... it's pretty pointless alol. Maybe someone else has a different perspective but to me, there's something therapeutic about assigning colored cells to reality TV contestants and using the composite rating to organize my thoughts and feelings and visually represent the series.

How Edgic Works: Each cell has two components - rating and tone. Rating is breaking down what type of content you had in an episode, while tone is breaking down how the viewers are supposed to perceive the content. There are mainly four different ratings and four different tones, and they can be mixed and matched.

Edgic Ratings: UTR ~ you more or less weren't in the episode, and if you were your content was either unmemorable or you were deliberately edited to be under the radar. Think of Sam Evans, Hira, most recently Charlotte, etc.
MOR ~ you're present, but not particularly dynamic. The content and airtime is there, but there is a lacking of personal insight or character development. You're middle of the road. Think of someone like Kieran.
CP ~ you are a complex personality. You're one of the main forces driving the narrative and we are learning and who you are as a person as you are providing your personal insight. Deana Uppal, Aisleyne, Aaron, etc. You can also throw in your obnoxious GAMEPLAYERS in here like Victor and nasty Nick.
OTT ~ over the top. I don't think this needs much explaining, BBUK pretty much rewrote the definition for over the top when it introduced people like Nikki and Charley and Kinga.

Edgic Tone: Neutral ~ we're not supposed to feel a particular way about you. Think like.... Liam or Karly or Laura McAdam.
Positive (P) ~ you're a protagonist and someone who the editors are explicitly telling us to root for. This is actually surprisingly rare due to the format of BBUK. Think of people like Brian Belo, Nadia, Luke A, Brian Dowling (hey they all won). If you're looking for someone who didn't win..... Samanda also work.
Negative (N) ~ we're either supposed to dislike you or love to hate you. Charley, Victor, Bea, Helen ****ing Wood, etc.
Mixed (M) ~ there are both positives and negatives to how you're presented. Due to the nature of BBUK, like 80% of the people end up with mixed tone. Nikki, Aaron, Aisleyne, Freddie, etc.

Any questions???

T*
05-07-2017, 12:12 AM
Omg this is really cool, I love this idea

Epic.
05-07-2017, 12:15 AM
4wfefdrf and i was gonna make this a thread but i thought it'd be too late too :sad:

T*
05-07-2017, 12:15 AM
I feel stupid for this but what do the numbers mean?

Epic.
05-07-2017, 12:16 AM
I feel stupid for this but what do the numbers mean?

That's their level of visibility 1-5 depending how prevalent they are in the episode

T*
05-07-2017, 12:16 AM
That's their level of visibility 1-5 depending how prevalent they are in the episode

Ah okay ty

Macie Lightfoot
05-07-2017, 12:17 AM
*OH* the numbers let me explain

Visibility Numbers: They range from 1 to 5. 5 means you're super duper visible and 1 means that you're hardly visible. Some people believe these numbers are irrelevant, and I don't disagree, but I feel like my cells look empty without them. For Survivor people would literally count sentences and do crazy formaulas and all that ****ing bull****.

Epic.
05-07-2017, 12:17 AM
I did mine by days AND weeks in order to try and gauge them by their 8 weeks. I update it daily

Samm
05-07-2017, 12:18 AM
lol poor charlotte, out of interest who's the most UTR housemate edgic wise in any BBUK series?

T*
05-07-2017, 12:18 AM
*OH* the numbers let me explain

Visibility Numbers: They range from 1 to 5. 5 means you're super duper visible and 1 means that you're hardly visible. Some people believe these numbers are irrelevant, and I don't disagree, but I feel like my cells look empty without them. For Survivor people would literally count sentences and do crazy formaulas and all that ****ing bull****.

Ah okay! Thanks!

Epic.
05-07-2017, 12:19 AM
lol poor charlotte, out of interest who's the most UTR housemate edgic wise in any BBUK series?

BB10 Beinazir i think?

If we're counting CBB too though, that honor goes to Mutya from CBB6

Epic.
05-07-2017, 12:20 AM
I admit I regret posting mine sooner but I've done it for every CBB series and could just do it with the next one of those :hehe:

Jason.
05-07-2017, 12:22 AM
Ahh that makes sense

Would I be correct in saying Bear is an OTTN5

Oaker
05-07-2017, 12:24 AM
BB10 Beinazir i think?

If we're counting CBB too though, that honor goes to Mutya from CBB6

What about Maysoon :skull:

Macie Lightfoot
05-07-2017, 12:24 AM
lol poor charlotte, out of interest who's the most UTR housemate edgic wise in any BBUK series?

From a friend of mine who has edgiced every series of BBUK (could you think of a more tedious activity?), I believe he said his answer is Maysoon. I don't have a BB9 chart to confirm or deny this though. Based off of the charts I have though.... I might say Sam Evans? Beinazir didn't last a long time but the one edgic rating I gave her was UTR1 acol.

Epic.
05-07-2017, 12:28 AM
Ahh that makes sense

Would I be correct in saying Bear is an OTTN5

Most of the time yes.

I've actually saved every CBB edgic I've done in separate Google Docs so I'll be happy to link you his poisonous edgic that he somehow won with (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nKUfl49gAKxQqT_bdLG3ujSOuDxxJBjOSn9bYvvKWok/edit?usp=sharing) :hee:

Ross.
05-07-2017, 12:28 AM
I love these but I always have to go back and check what it means because I keep forgetting the codes

Macie Lightfoot
07-07-2017, 11:43 PM
bumping this up in case anyone has any UPDATES. I missed some of the eviction bc of a ****ty live stream so I probably won't have my chart updated until tomorrow but like duh Sue is CPN this week I can already tell ya that.

DouglasS
07-07-2017, 11:45 PM
It's a good chart and it's all very accurate. Only thing I'd say you've given Kieron greater visibility than he actually has however.

Macie Lightfoot
09-07-2017, 08:21 AM
http://i.imgur.com/PFHnjey.png

Epic.
09-07-2017, 09:38 AM
http://i.imgur.com/PFHnjey.png

I'm extremely different on mine for this week:

Andrew: OTTM
Chanelle: MORM
Charlotte: MOR
Deborah: MORP
Ellie: CPM
Hannah: MOR
Isabelle: MOR (i fail to see how she was remotely utr)
Kieran: MORM
Raph: CPM
Sam: MORM
Simone: CPN
Sue: CPN
Tom: MORN
Joe: OTTM

Morgan.
09-07-2017, 10:15 AM
How does it predict a winner or next evicted then?

Morgan.
09-07-2017, 10:24 AM
Oh wait I didn't read properly.

Epic.
09-07-2017, 11:02 AM
How does it predict a winner or next evicted then?

My edgic includes winner predictions actually. But I'll wait till the series ends to show and see how right or wrong I was :laugh:

Macie Lightfoot
09-07-2017, 04:34 PM
Isabelle: MOR (i fail to see how she was remotely utr)

She didn't exist the entire week until the eviction episode where she dumped salt all over the kitchen counter.

Epic.
09-07-2017, 04:37 PM
She didn't exist the entire week until the eviction episode where she dumped salt all over the kitchen counter.

You're forgetting Saturday's show as well with her and Chanelle going against Simone. She also got a secret task in that same HL's show. as for the rest, i guess i just did MOR1/2s rather than UTRs so i can't really vouch for that one.

reece(:
09-07-2017, 04:39 PM
Isn't MOR1 not a thing :think:

Epic.
09-07-2017, 04:39 PM
Isn't MOR1 not a thing :think:

I could've sworn it was.

Macie Lightfoot
09-07-2017, 04:41 PM
yeah being middle of the road and having a 1 visibility are kinda contradictory to me

Macie Lightfoot
09-07-2017, 04:44 PM
You're forgetting Saturday's show as well with her and Chanelle going against Simone. She also got a secret task in that same HL's show.

eh, especially in a week that actually had eight days it takes a little bit more than someone showing up in the eleventh hour for me to bump them up to MOR.

reece(:
09-07-2017, 04:51 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Uhgorye.png

(subject to changes)

Epic.
09-07-2017, 05:00 PM
I'll wait till the series ends to post a screenshot of mine

Braden
09-07-2017, 05:01 PM
I really like the visual of an edgic chart, but idk how people can study episodes so intricately to work all of this out :p

Macie Lightfoot
09-07-2017, 05:07 PM
tbh the only difficult part for BBUK for me is CP because complexity in Survivor usually relates to your personal gameplay and strategy and how events affect you personally, and of course gameplay is *TABOO* in BBUK.

And then tone can be difficult sometimes but like 75% of the time it's mixed bc you have people talking **** about you and then you get a DR or something to balance it out. Like just by the nature of the show pretty much your default overall rating is MORM.

reece(:
09-07-2017, 05:10 PM
My mantra was taking into account how the edit will affect public perception, and how one note the characters are.. like Joe, pretty much 85% of the time shown in a negative light that the public would never get behind.

reece(:
09-07-2017, 05:11 PM
tbh it's pretty much probable BS but still fun to do for some odd reason.

Macie Lightfoot
09-07-2017, 05:13 PM
oh it's suuuuch BS but it's so rewarding when you get something like this

http://i.imgur.com/makvAXV.png

reece(:
09-07-2017, 05:14 PM
Carole's edgic is so representative of her slowly descending into Mad Kitchen Lady lmao.

Braden
09-07-2017, 05:31 PM
Charley & Nicky's edgic strips :joker: :love:

Epic.
15-07-2017, 09:03 PM
I don't care what anyone says. Charlotte and Sue were CPM this week, and Simone OTTM

reece(:
15-07-2017, 09:07 PM
Charlotte MORM for me

DouglasS
15-07-2017, 09:08 PM
Yeah Charlottes actually been on screen a lot this week, she's been in the DR and had lots of opinions on all sorts.

Epic.
15-07-2017, 09:24 PM
I'm of the probable unpopular view that Tom and Hannah were the rare UTRM-breed this week

DouglasS
15-07-2017, 09:25 PM
I'm of the probable unpopular view that Tom and Hannah were the rare UTRM-breed this week

This has definitely been Tom's and Hannah's quietest week I'd agree. Since Joe's eviction they've probably had the least airtime with Kieron

Epic.
15-07-2017, 09:27 PM
This has definitely been Tom's and Hannah's quietest week I'd agree. Since Joe's eviction they've probably had the least airtime with Kieron

No, but UTRM is like the rarest edgic of all time. I would guess that the others would just say UTR and stick with it

LemonJam
16-07-2017, 01:52 AM
I strive to be an UTRM human being every day.

JTM45
16-07-2017, 03:02 AM
Well yeah.........this is really...........:sleep:

Macie Lightfoot
16-07-2017, 03:23 AM
Take your UTRN attitude elsewhere hun....x

Macie Lightfoot
16-07-2017, 08:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6iOZHV2.png

some of the tone is suuuuuuper borderline (looking at you Han-nuh, Kieran, Tom) but whatever.

Macie Lightfoot
19-07-2017, 10:05 PM
*already moved Sam on my chart and assigned him his eventual MORM overall rating*

Epic.
21-07-2017, 10:42 PM
So we're all in agreement Ellie will end up MORN after tomorrow's show, right?

Macie Lightfoot
23-07-2017, 08:43 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8awnFfU.png

Epic.
24-07-2017, 10:35 PM
Kieran was an OTTN3 whinger on tonight's HLs

Macie Lightfoot
26-07-2017, 07:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/r5qtqGF.png

Charlotte probably could have been MORM overall but she's definitely more of a Savannah than a Sam or an Ellie so.

Macie Lightfoot
28-07-2017, 07:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3EPZfCU.png

Epic.
28-07-2017, 10:23 PM
Isabelle is CPP in Week 8 and I will argue against anyone who claims otherwise!

Macie Lightfoot
30-07-2017, 09:41 AM
Just rewatched the final bc Isabelle won and BLAM.

http://i.imgur.com/H07LDiU.png

I decided to adopt the color scheme I use to denote Redemption Island in Survivor for the Second Chancers bc they weren't really HMs and why not, I dig the way it looks anyway.