FGS Sue shut the fook up

[sampvt]

Ive never seen or heard such a bitter old cow as her, she is trying her best to stir sh.t and its falling on deaf ears. Shes just a pure waste of a HM, get the wicked old troll out FGS.

[Jordan.]

Low key going off her, she's just moaning for the sake of it.

[Epic.]

Not really falling on deaf ears if housemates are listening to her

[The Grinch]

Not really falling on deaf ears if housemates are listening to her

mhmm.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Hurricane my arze

A bitter old hag brim full of jealousy and hate

[sampvt]

Not really falling on deaf ears if housemates are listening to her

Shes been doing it since she got in and nobody has done anything based on what she says as they know shes a fake. Hurricane my arse, shes just an old haggard twitter troll.

[Withano]

"Pure waste of a housemate" yet you continue to talk about her. The best housemates in my opinion, are the ones that create discussion - good or bad - So I do disagree. I'm going off her as a person, but she is a great housemate because people just want to talk about her.

[reece(:]

Suey did that.

[sampvt]

"Pure waste of a housemate" yet you continue to talk about her. The best housemates in my opinion, are the ones that create discussion - good or bad - So I do disagree. I'm going off her as a person, but she is a great housemate because people just want to talk about her.

So by that analogy, we have to vote lotan the most interesting or best Housemate. ???????? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Nah, that wont work.

[Withano]

So by that analogy, we have to vote lotan the most interesting or best Housemate. ???????? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Nah, that wont work.

Lotan was technically a good housemate, but an absolutely vile human imo. Sues a great housemate and an okay human.
Preferably, the winner would be a great housemate and a great human - Isabelle's closest imo.

[Rustic bauble]

Lotan was technically a good housemate, but an absolutely vile human imo. Sues a great housemate and an okay human.
Preferably, the winner would be a great housemate and a great human - Isabelle's closest imo.


Apart from getting a rise out of Lotan she's done **** all...apart from ear wigging and laughing at people having a disagreement....oh and being Chanelles lapdog.

[Merry Mockmas]

"Pure waste of a housemate" yet you continue to talk about her. The best housemates in my opinion, are the ones that create discussion - good or bad - So I do disagree. I'm going off her as a person, but she is a great housemate because people just want to talk about her.

Exactly, we all come onto TIBB to discuss the Housemates and Sue is someone that is getting alot of discussion.

[Kazanne]

Has Sue said anything nice about anyone yet ?

[Merry Mockmas]

Has Sue said anything nice about anyone yet ?

Raph and Isabelle.

[Withano]

Apart from getting a rise out of Lotan she's done **** all...apart from ear wigging and laughing at people having a disagreement....oh and being Chanelles lapdog.

She makes me smile, but yeh, she has taken a quieter role in the last few days - Chanelle and Raph (and like 4 others to a slightly lesser extent) are also good hms and good humans, Isabelle just edges them on the whole for me though. I do change my favourites about ten times a series though!

My point was that nobody would ever make a Lotan is a terrible housemate thread.. because credit where its due etc.. a Sue is a terrible housemate thread is a bit illogical for the same reason. They're not the best of humans and thats their downfall, their potential as a housemate is their main selling point... hence the huge discussion that theyve brought to tibb.

[Ant.]

Wow jealousy is ugly!

[Kazanne]

Raph and Isabelle.

But they are in her circle,she has done nothing but run the guys down,Ellie and Charlotte, all I've heard is her whinging about something or someone from the other bedroom.

[Merry Mockmas]

She makes me smile, but yeh, she has taken a quieter role in the last few days - Chanelle and Raph (and like 4 others to a slightly lesser extent) are also good hms and good humans, Isabelle just edges them on the whole for me though. I do change my favourites about ten times a series though!

My point was that nobody would ever make a Lotan is a terrible housemate thread.. because credit where its due etc.. a Sue is a terrible housemate thread is a bit illogical for the same reason. They're not the best of humans and thats their downfall, their potential as a housemate is their main selling point... hence the huge discussion that theyve brought to tibb.

I really agree with the BIB, I've said this for years on here, I'm glad that I'm not on my own in thinking this.

[Merry Mockmas]

But they are in her circle,she has done nothing but run the guys down,Ellie and Charlotte, all I've heard is her whinging about something or someone from the other bedroom.

Tom has issues with black women anyway, hence why he clashes with Hannah alot, and by association Deborah aswell.

I don't know what Sue's problem is with Kieran, maybe it's the fact that he isn't as open as most of the others in the house? It's probably my best defence that I can give Kieran.

And she does like Joe, but he has had a bad week where the Housemates are concerned.

[Kazanne]

Tom has issues with black women anyway, hence why he clashes with Hannah alot, and by association Deborah aswell.

I don't know what Sue's problem is with Kieran, maybe it's the fact that he isn't as open as most of the others in the house? It's probably my best defence that I can give Kieran.

And she does like Joe, but he has had a bad week where the Housemates are concerned.

When has Tom ever said he has a problem with black women :shrug:

[Rustic bauble]

But they are in her circle,she has done nothing but run the guys down,Ellie and Charlotte, all I've heard is her whinging about something or someone from the other bedroom.


They are the new Clique...bitchy, listening to other people's conversations behind closed doors...Sue calling out the other bedroom and comparing them to apes preening themselves...exactly what they are all doing?
If Kieron Tom and Joe were seen listening at their bedroom door and laughing and giggling this forum would be in meltdown.

[Jordan.]

When has Tom ever said he has a problem with black women :shrug:

[2] quite a strong and dumb accusation to throw out there.

[Merry Mockmas]

When has Tom ever said he has a problem with black women :shrug:

He doesn't probably even realise it, but observing his behaviour his personality doesn't seem to gel with any of the black girls in the house, not even Deborah and she rarely ever seems to act up.

[Cal.]

Yes

[Withano]

I really agree with the BIB, I've said this for years on here, I'm glad that I'm not on my own in thinking this.

Yes! Its how I always watch it, and how I choose my winners!

You get the Bears and the Helens who are horrific people, but technically good housemates (Lotan and Sue)
And then theres the Sam Evans, and the Rachel Rices who are lovely people, but shoddy housemates (Charlotte)
But then sometimes, you get your Kates and Nadias who are a brilliant combination of both - thats the aim, Id say Isabelle and Chanelle are the closest to that level.

[Merry Mockmas]

[2] quite a strong and dumb accusation to throw out there.

It isn't dumb to observe, but it is dumb to just openly dismiss without even paying proper attention to why someone is saying what they're saying.:hee:

[Ant.]

But they are in her circle,she has done nothing but run the guys down,Ellie and Charlotte, all I've heard is her whinging about something or someone from the other bedroom.

Hm so is Sue a bad housemate for doing this? Where do you stand with Lotan then?

[Merry Mockmas]

Yes! Its how I always watch it, and how I choose my winners!

You get the Bears and the Helens who are horrific people, but technically good housemates (Lotan and Sue)
And then theres the Sam Evans, and the Rachel Rices who are lovely people, but shoddy housemates (Charlotte)
But then sometimes, you get your Kates and Nadias who are a brilliant combination of both - thats the aim, Id say Isabelle and Chanelle are the closest to that level.

I see your point, and I agree with most of it.

I would however put Kate under the Sam Evans category of nice but dull.

[Jordan.]

It isn't dumb to observe, but it is dumb to just openly dismiss without even paying proper attention to why someone is saying what they're saying.:hee:

I'm paying attention and it's dumb. You're saying he has a problem with the entire black race just because he doesn't gel with Deborah and Hannah....

[Merry Mockmas]

I'm paying attention and it's dumb. You're saying he has a problem with the entire black race just because he doesn't gel with Deborah and Hannah....

Black girls aren't the entire black race.

So yes you're not paying attention to the post which is ignorant and dumb.

[Jordan.]

Black girls aren't the entire black race.

So yes you're not paying attention to the post which is ignorant and dumb.

So now you're changing it to a problem with black women because he doesn't get on with two of them. I forgot Hannah and Deborah represented the entire black woman population.

[Ant.]

https://media.tenor.com/images/b2920c925c987d8a4350fa0e8b29ed61/tenor.gif

[Merry Mockmas]

So now you're changing it to a problem with black women because he doesn't get on with two of them. I forgot Hannah and Deborah represented the entire black woman population.

"Tom has issues with black women anyway, hence why he clashes with Hannah alot, and by association Deborah aswell."

My original post about Tom and his issues with the black girls in the house, there's no changing my point, it's just you've not read my post properly and now are being too stubborn to admit that you was wrong.

And yes having issues with three black women in the house is a good indication that Tom and the black women aren't seeing eye to eye.

[Jordan.]

"Tom has issues with black women anyway, hence why he clashes with Hannah alot, and by association Deborah aswell."

My original post about Tom and his issues with the black girls in the house, there's no changing my point, it's just you've not read my post properly and now are being too stubborn to admit that you was wrong.

And yes having issues with three black women in the house is a good indication that Tom and the black women aren't seeing eye to eye.

If you can't see how silly accusing a housemate of being racist on no basis other than them not being close to the black housemates it's really not worth arguing.

[Merry Mockmas]

If you can't see how silly accusing a housemate of being racist on no basis other than them not being close to the black housemates it's really not worth arguing.

Now you're just making stuff up, where have I said that his racist? If anything there's more basis for him being sexist than racist.

But keep clutching at straws as you're clearly determined to have an argument tonight.

[Jordan.]

Now you're just making stuff up, where have I said that his racist? If anything there's more basis for him being sexist than racist.

But keep clutching at straws as you're clearly determined to have an argument tonight.

Not calling him racist but you was the one who highlighted their race in your original point lmao i'm out

[Merry Mockmas]

Not calling him racist but you was the one who highlighted their race in your original point lmao i'm out

Because it is important to point out it out as it is interesting that he can't seem to get along with three black girls, but if they put a black guy in the house he'd probably be mates with him, it's fascinating psychology.

But yeah acting like I'm the one being unreasonable when you've been completely out of order isn't really on I'm afraid.

[Rustic bauble]

Deborah Hannah and Sue have a problem with Joe Tom and Kieron though....would we call them out as having a problem with white men?...No.
Tom doesn't have a problem with Sue and he hasn't had a problem with Deborah or Hannah since fight night...so the comment is uncalled for.

[Merry Mockmas]

Deborah Hannah and Sue have a problem with Joe Tom and Kieron though....would we call them out as having a problem with white men?...No.
Tom doesn't have a problem with Sue and he hasn't had a problem with Deborah or Hannah since fight night...so the comment is uncalled for.

But I would say that Hannah has had issues with guys that behave in a "laddish" manner, it's a fair point to make without being called dumb and how I'm branding someone as racist by someone who was too stubborn to admit that they hadn't read my posts properly so tried to change the goalposts.

Pointing out facts isn't wrong, even if it's a negative fact.

[Jordan.]

But I would say that Hannah has had issues with guys that behave in a "laddish" manner, it's a fair point to make without being called dumb and how I'm branding someone as racist by someone who was too stubborn to admit that they hadn't read my posts properly so tried to change the goalposts.

Pointing out facts isn't wrong, even if it's a negative fact.

I read you're post perfectly and now you're trying to back peddle because people disagreed with you. If you don't want people to think you're making it a race issue don't bring race into it, pretty simple.

So now if you want to set the record straight what were you accusing Tom of when you specifically highlighted he has issues with black women?

[Merry Mockmas]

I read you're post perfectly and now you're trying to back peddle because people disagreed with you. If you don't want people to think you're making it a race issue don't bring race into it, pretty simple.

So now if you want to set the record straight what were you accusing Tom of when you specifically highlighted he has issues with black women?

There's only been you that's disagreed with me Jordan, you was out of order and in the wrong and you're just refusing to accept it.

You thought that I was calling Tom racist when I wasn't, and then you back peddled and tried to make out that Tom has issues with all black women when I pointed out that it was in the house.

And I will bring race into it if Tom is having issues with a subset of the black Housemates in the house (I really shouldn't have to stress this) but I love how you think that people thought that you was in the right over being a rude jackass.:laugh3:

And my original point is that he seems to have an issue with strongminded women, which most of them have been the black girls of the series, but of course you wanted an argument and you got it so well done.

[Jordan.]

There's only been you that's disagreed with me Jordan, you was out of order and in the wrong and you're just refusing to accept it.

You thought that I was calling Tom racist when I wasn't, and then you back peddled and tried to make out that Tom has issues with all black women when I pointed out that it was in the house.

And I will bring race into it if Tom is having issues with a subset of the black Housemates in the house (I really shouldn't have to stress this) but I love how you think that people thought that you was in the right over being a rude jackass.:laugh3:

And my original point is that he seems to have an issue with strongminded women, which most of them have been the black girls of the series, but of course you wanted an argument and you got it so well done.

1. Kazanne and rustical also called you up on what you said

2. I'm not back peddling on anything I still think you were implying he is racist towards black women

3. No where in your original post did you mention "strong minded women" you went straight to "black women" so keep lying to yourself

4. It's not really an argument when you're talking to a brick wall

[Merry Mockmas]

1. Kazanne and rustical also called you up on what you said

2. I'm not back peddling on anything I still think you were implying he is racist towards black women

3. No where in your original post did you mention "strong minded women" you went straight to "black women" so keep lying to yourself

4. It's not really an argument when you're talking to a brick wall

1. They was debating with me, not insulting me, so again how's that taking your side?

2. You was back peddling, you was accusing me of calling Tom racist when you firmly knew what I meant, but then this is the troll that attacked everyone on the Forum on another website, so why am I surprised that you're trying to drag people into some petty squabble.

3. You knew what I meant, but you just wanted to jump on the race thing to get a rise out of me, it's worked so well done on that. But of course me pointing out that Tom doesn't like strong willed women happened to be me accusing him of racism right? It's very telling that you jumped straight into the his racist stuff rather than his sexist, which is where my point was going, but very telling from you.

4. If I'm talking to a brick wall then why are you replying?

Instead of being stubborn, actually apologise for calling me dumb for a perfectly fine post, but instead you'll probably try to carry the argument on until one of us gets banned, if not both of us.

[Jordan.]

1. They was debating with me, not insulting me, so again how's that taking your side?

2. You was back peddling, you was accusing me of calling Tom racist when you firmly knew what I meant, but then this is the troll that attacked everyone on the Forum on another website, so why am I surprised that you're trying to drag people into some petty squabble.

3. You knew what I meant, but you just wanted to jump on the race thing to get a rise out of me, it's worked so well done on that. But of course me pointing out that Tom doesn't like strong willed women happened to be me accusing him of racism right? It's very telling that you jumped straight into the his racist stuff rather than his sexist, which is where my point was going, but very telling from you.

4. If I'm talking to a brick wall then why are you replying?

Instead of being stubborn, actually apologise for calling me dumb for a perfectly fine post, but instead you'll probably try to carry the argument on until one of us gets banned, if not both of us.

Imagine being this delicate because someone dared disagree with your opinion :skull:

[Merry Mockmas]

Imagine being this delicate because someone dared disagree with your opinion :skull:

Well you don't see me pulling up Kazanne and Rusticgal or anyone else on the Forum, so think about why your post has been the one to get a rise out of me, but then you already know that don't you?

Oh and btw nice back peddling there to it's me being overly sensitive.

[Northern Monkey]

I can't like Sue.All i see her do is kiss arse and moan about people to her friends while slyly glancing up to check the subjects of her bitching aren't listening.

[Jordan.]

Well you don't see me pulling up Kazanne and Rusticgal or anyone else on the Forum, so think about why your post has been the one to get a rise out of me, but then you already know that don't you?

Oh and btw nice back peddling there to it's me being overly sensitive.

You're the one having a tantrum here and getting more personal than I did. I called your accusation dumb, not you (which it still is). I'll make note not to reply to your posts in future if this is how you handle a forum debate :unsure:

[Merry Mockmas]

You're the one having a tantrum here and getting more personal than I did. I called your accusation dumb, not you (which it still is). I'll make note not to reply to your posts in future if this is how you handle a forum debate :unsure:

The constant changing the goalposts from you is incredible.

I'm having a tantrum when you was trying to make out that I was using defammation against Tom, I'm sorry but that's not a debate.

[Jordan.]

The constant changing the goalposts from you is incredible.

I'm having a tantrum when you was trying to make out that I was using defammation against Tom, I'm sorry but that's not a debate.

Well you were, I stand by my point. No goal posts moving here!

[Merry Mockmas]

Well you were, I stand by my point. No goal posts moving here!

You also tried to bring Kazanne and Rusticgal's posts into it, and how I was throwing tantrums, being overly sensitive, when you had gone around branding your own accusations (oh the irony) and got really insulting about my point all because you was looking for an argument and wouldn't back down when you was in the wrong.

I actually normally quite like you Jordan, but you was out of order here, I posted a perfectly fine post that was up for a normal discussion, and you just wanted to go into insult mode.

I admittedly shouldn't have gone personal back, but I do find it increasingly frustrating when someone knows that they've got the wrong end of the stick and still won't back down.

[Merry Mockmas]

As I can't seem to PM you Jordan, or Visitor message you, I just wanted to say sorry for the argument earlier, I think that we both misunderstood each other and a stupid argument broke out and insults hurled about that shouldn't have happened on both sides.

If you don't want to accept the apology then fair enough, but I'm just putting it out there in case you do and I honestly can't PM you which is normally my prefered effort to apologise to someone if I've upset them.

[sampvt]

Ive told sue to shut up now its your turn mystic and etc etc, this is a thread about SUE not you 2. Now please lets get back to Sue........................she is still just talking **** about the others hoping to start a war and kissing arses with the popular kids to get the tow to the 15k.

[Merry Mockmas]

Ive told sue to shut up now its your turn mystic and etc etc, this is a thread about SUE not you 2. Now please lets get back to Sue........................she is still just talking **** about the others hoping to start a war and kissing arses with the popular kids to get the tow to the 15k.

Tbf it is a gameshow so she's playing it smart by going with the group that the public actually likes.

[chuff me dizzy]

"Tom has issues with black women anyway, hence why he clashes with Hannah alot, and by association Deborah aswell."

My original post about Tom and his issues with the black girls in the house, there's no changing my point, it's just you've not read my post properly and now are being too stubborn to admit that you was wrong.

And yes having issues with three black women in the house is a good indication that Tom and the black women aren't seeing eye to eye.

Have you ever thought Tom and lots of the others don't get on with the Krays because they are sly ,sneaky nasty aggressive ****s ? nothing to do with skin colour,but carry on implying it is :pat:

[Paula D]

Ive told sue to shut up now its your turn mystic and etc etc, this is a thread about SUE not you 2. Now please lets get back to Sue........................she is still just talking **** about the others hoping to start a war and kissing arses with the popular kids to get the tow to the 15k.

And? That's a problem why?

[Marsh.]

Have you ever thought Tom and lots of the others don't get on with the Krays because they are sly ,sneaky nasty aggressive ****s ? nothing to do with skin colour,but carry on implying it is :pat:

The irony when posts like this are more aggressive than anything anyone's done in the house.