Reasons why BB18 is floppng in ratings

[LukeB]

Say why the ratings are awful

1. Big Brother do not know their viewing audience, they have a mixture of different generations and not just one. They have got loads of people from EOTB and weekender this season which is what the young generation would watch not the older generation so it's quite off putting for them. Love Island knows their target audience which is completely different to big brothers audience.

[Shaun]

2. Love Island exists

[Lstan]

Hmm...and here was me thinking its because of boring housemates.

[Epic.]

3. The producers are completely ignoring the needs of their fans. They think all fans want is showmances, dramz, and some other toxic stuff yet that's what turned people off. Almost EVERYONE wants it to be more basic and return to its roots and it's just not being taken on board

[supertv247]

4. Terrible scheduling. Why the **** did they lunch at half 8 against Corrie? It was all down from there

[Parallel]

Hmm...and here was me thinking its because of boring housemates.

I think boring tasks are high up on the list too. Some tasks when BB was on C4 brought even the dullest of housemates to life.

[Jodie.]

5. People just aren’t interested in BB anymore. E.g: Had BB18 aired in place of BB15, it would’ve got bigger ratings than BB14 imo

[Jason.]

6. Because the show has declined in quality even more in the last few years and its driven away what was left of the hardcore fans that were still watching.

[LukeB]

7.Sukhvinder walked

[Macie Lightfoot]

5. People just aren’t interested in BB anymore. E.g: Had BB18 aired in place of BB15, it would’ve got bigger ratings than BB14 imo

sis no, stop trying to act like this series is great. It's just okay.

[Kazanne]

Too many Towie types,need a better mixture of ages ,BB need to go back to basics,no outside influences and BB need to stop with the z listers.

[Jodie.]

sis no, stop trying to act like this series is great. It's just okay.

*whispers* It’s an amazing series imo:hehe:

[Jason.]

sis no, stop trying to act like this series is great. It's just okay.

Lmao, not to mention I can't imagine a series filled with EOTB rejects and reality stars being the highest-rated C5 series if it were to have aired three years earlier when the housemates being on the "cusp of fame" was one of the major turn-offs in Power Trip.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah everyone complained about BB15 feeling like a bunch of Apprentice rejects, and then BB18 just decided to mold all the fifth boots from the Apprentice into one and call it "Rebecca Jane" which is for suuuuure not her actual last name.

[Jodie.]

Lmao, not to mention I can't imagine a series filled with EOTB rejects and reality stars being the highest-rated C5 series if it were to have aired three years earlier when the housemates being on the "cusp of fame" was one of the major turn-offs in Power Trip.

That’s my opinion!

[SteveG2688]

The producers are the main issue, i also dont think it helps that the shows format is getting tired. The producers really dont know what their fans want nor do endemol . Every year we go on and on at Big B on twitter or facebook to change it up and be more strict and go back to basics, put normal people in and stop with the z-listers but they just dont listen. I agree that they seem to think we want to see love island 2.0 and we dont. I hate love island i think its a load of crap same for Ibiza weekender and ex on the beach. But they seem to have specifically put those types of people in thinking they will pull in the younger audience and its backfired. So many of my friends have ditched big brother for love island this year, even i have missed an episode here and there and anyone who knows me knows i wouldn't normally do that. If they want to get viewers up air the show during the winter when there is no direct competition. move Cbb to the summer and air big b civilian January time.

[Adamw92]

Sam/Ellie

[Littlegreen]

- Z-list talent instead of normal folk
- Showmances taking precedent
- shopping tasks losing importance
- producer manipulation
- no live feed

[Mystic Mock]

Well younger viewers seem to prefer the BB of old than these TOWIE shows anyway so I don't get where they get the idea from that TOWIEing every Reality Show is gonna pull in a younger audience?

But a thing that's definitely harming BB in the ratings is making the show too right wing, Big Brother in it's concept is a very left wing programme and it's best years on Ch4 which were BB5 and BB6 had people from wildly different lives to each other for the most part. Where as nowadays it's all straight, white Tory types, or in extreme cases UKIP types.

[LukeB]

Well younger viewers seem to prefer the BB of old than these TOWIE shows anyway so I don't get where they get the idea from that TOWIEing every Reality Show is gonna pull in a younger audience?

But a thing that's definitely harming BB in the ratings is making the show too right wing, Big Brother in it's concept is a very left wing programme and it's best years on Ch4 which were BB5 and BB6 had people from wildly different lives to each other for the most part.

Well Love Island is a hit? which is basically the people who watch towie and stuff. Towie is also a rating success too.

[Mystic Mock]

Well Love Island is a hit? which is basically the people who watch towie and stuff. Towie is also a rating success too.

Big Brother on Ch4 could pull in 5 to 6 million viewers on average when it was at it's peak, and we are still the younger generations that helped contribute to those ratings at the time.

Love Island pulls in 2.1 Million on average, it doesn't even compare imo.

[SteveG2688]

I think the main issue too is that alot of hardcore fans myself included still look at big brother as a "reality tv show" when in fact it isnt, its an entertainment show. C5 made a point of saying way back in 2011 when they took the show over that the show is no longer a reality tv show its an entertainment show and that is the shows main focus. Emma willis has said it herself that people need to view it as an entertainment show and not as a reality show. I think alot of us fans want the reality aspect back as in live feed, stricter rules/no outside world.

[DouglasS]

Big Brother on Ch4 could pull in 5 to 6 million viewers on average when it was at it's peak, and we are still the younger generations that helped contribute to those ratings at the time.

Love Island pulls in 2.1 Million on average, it doesn't even compare imo.

Firstly TV itself doesn't compare, not as many people watch TV now than they did then in general and so comparing viewing shares/percentages would make more sense.

Secondly Love Island is not on a main channel, it's on ITV2 and so it's not as widely promoted by being on one of the main channels and its not as accessible.

Love Island is the next craze for the younger demographic after Big Brother [BB ended at BB8/BB9]

[LukeB]

Love Island is on iTV2.....

[Mystic Mock]

Firstly TV itself doesn't compare, not as many people watch TV now than they did then in general and so comparing viewing shares/percentages would make more sense.

Secondly Love Island is not on a main channel, it's on ITVbe and so it's not as widely promoted by being on one of the main channels and its not as accessible.

Love Island is the next craze for the younger demographic after Big Brother [BB ended at BB8/BB9]

That is fair, I just don't think that Love Island has the concept to appeal to a younger audience as much as BB can when it's on form.

And BB has the secret weapon of being able to appeal to older viewers, something that I think will end up killing Love Island when the viewers start getting older, it's a fad that will die very quickly.

[LukeB]

Big Brother on Ch4 could pull in 5 to 6 million viewers on average when it was at it's peak, and we are still the younger generations that helped contribute to those ratings at the time.

Love Island pulls in 2.1 Million on average, it doesn't even compare imo.

That was C4 though things back then were different to now, we didn't have shows like towie/gs etc but the BB viewers are all ages. Big Brother is targeting the young but its not working hence they viewers are going. Love Island is dominating because it's the new craze which started last year (ratings got better last year)

[DouglasS]

That is fair, I just don't think that Love Island has the concept to appeal to a younger audience as much as BB can when it's on form.

And BB has the secret weapon of being able to appeal to older viewers, something that I think will end up killing Love Island when the viewers start getting older, it's a fad that will die very quickly.

I do agree that Love Island will probably peak next season and start declining

[SteveG2688]

That is fair, I just don't think that Love Island has the concept to appeal to a younger audience as much as BB can when it's on form.

And BB has the secret weapon of being able to appeal to older viewers, something that I think will end up killing Love Island when the viewers start getting older, it's a fad that will die very quickly.

I agree, i watched love island the other week to see what all the fuss is about and its aweful, the concept of the show is shallow and just silly in general. People will soon get tired of it. Its thrown in your face so much i mean they even have a clothing range in primark.

[Mystic Mock]

That was C4 though things back then were different to now, we didn't have shows like towie/gs etc but the BB viewers are all ages. Big Brother is targeting the young but its not working hence they viewers are going. Love Island is dominating because it's the new craze which started last year (ratings got better last year)

Because another thing that's harming BB on Ch5 is it's a weird mesh of the old BBUK/BBUSA/TOWIE/Love Island/Politics can creep in quite horribly aswell.

Basically BBUK needs to pick a side and stick with it if it wants to save itself, imo the public would take to the old school vibe I think as it will standout to the other Reality Shows at the moment.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree, i watched love island the other week to see what all the fuss is about and its aweful, the concept of the show is shallow and just silly in general. People will soon get tired of it. Its thrown in your face so much i mean they even have a clothing range in primark.

Maybe I'm older in mind than physically as I honestly don't get the fuss over Love Island, it's just a show dedicated to Showmances.:joker:

[SteveG2688]

Maybe I'm older in mind than physically as I honestly don't get the fuss over Love Island, it's just a show dedicated to Showmances.:joker:

Its tacky, everything about it from the text messages (basically love islands version of big brother) telling them what to do to the people on the show itself. It makes me cringe. Such bad tv especially when you think of the kind of example its setting for the younger generation (now i sound like an old man or something lol its true tho, no morals)

[SteveG2688]

I do agree that Love Island will probably peak next season and start declining

The fans will end up moaning about the cast always being the same like we are here regarding big brother lol there are only so many times you can put the same types of people together in house. We all know that from experience watching big b. It will be the same for the love island fans eventually.

[Mystic Mock]

Its tacky, everything about it from the text messages (basically love islands version of big brother) telling them what to do to the people on the show itself. It makes me cringe. Such bad tv especially when you think of the kind of example its setting for the younger generation (now i sound like an old man or something lol its true tho, no morals)

I can just only imagine what it's like.

I'd like to think that Love Island won't push anything too extreme on the younger generation as it's main purpose is to entertain, not push an agenda.

[SteveG2688]

I can just only imagine what it's like.

I'd like to think that Love Island won't push anything too extreme on the younger generation as it's main purpose is to entertain, not push an agenda.

I think it makes younger people think they need to look and act like these people. You could say the same about big b tho. If you look at the housemates they select over the years they have got faker and faker. Another reason why people are tuning out me thinks.

[Mystic Mock]

I think it makes younger people think they need to look and act like these people. You could say the same about big b tho. If you look at the housemates they select over the years they have got faker and faker. Another reason why people are tuning out me thinks.

BB just needs to be careful on who they cast I think and it would do fine.

[fitz2k2]

Stop adding housemates that been on tv and has agents.

[reece(:]

7.Sukhvinder walked

This is the only tea.

[y.winter]

C5 don't know how to make TV.

[Cherie]

I think boring tasks are high up on the list too. Some tasks when BB was on C4 brought even the dullest of housemates to life.

They wheel out the same bring tasks on IAC every year and it still gets huge ratings

[Greg!]

I think people decided not to watch after launch. Many people would have been put off by there being so many reality tv people, especially after Kayleigh was like "it's an EOTB reunion!" and Lotan and Tom were talking and saying they didn't apply.

[Jake.]

It's just fatigue :shrug:

It's been on air for 18 years are currently we have 3 series per year, it was only a matter of time

[Alf]

Produced by and starring sheep.

[bots]

let's not beat about the bush, the program as it stands now is a complete load of ****. It only retains its current level of viewership from past loyalty to the program. If this were a fresh show this year, no-one would be watching. It has nothing of substance or entertainment to offer.

[Paula D]

The biggest reason the show is going down the pan imo is the GBP. They consistently vote out the interesting characters (Sukvinder, Mandy) in favour of reality star wannabes.

BB has no control over that. I don't know how it's going to change though because it's a vicious cycle. They have to give the public what they want and the public seems to want these trashy characters.

[MTVN]

Say why the ratings are awful

1. Big Brother do not know their viewing audience, they have a mixture of different generations and not just one. They have got loads of people from EOTB and weekender this season which is what the young generation would watch not the older generation so it's quite off putting for them. Love Island knows their target audience which is completely different to big brothers audience.

I agree, I think the producers are misunderstanding their audience. There was a BBC article before this series asking who still watches BB and it said how most of the viewers are older whereas a show like Love Island is watched pretty much exclusively by the 18-30 demographic. This group isn't actually that interested in BB though and they need to stop thinking that this is where all their viewers are.

[Niamh.]

I agree, I think the producers are misunderstanding their audience. There was a BBC article before this series asking who still watches BB and it said how most of the viewers are older whereas a show like Love Island is watched pretty much exclusively by the 18-30 demographic. This group isn't actually that interested in BB though and they need to stop thinking that this is where all their viewers are.

Yep and they need to stop trying to change it into shows like that or the TOWIE type of shows as well. People who watch those shows don't need to watch BB when they can just watch one of those and if I wanted to watch a show like that I would but I don't because I don't like them

[Paula D]

Yep and they need to stop trying to change it into shows like that or the TOWIE type of shows as well. People who watch those shows don't need to watch BB when they can just watch one of those and if I wanted to watch a show like that I would but I don't because I don't like them

Is LI scripted like TOWIE? I never can quite figure it out?

[storybrooke]

- Z-list talent instead of normal folk
- Showmances taking precedent
- shopping tasks losing importance
- producer manipulation
- no live feed

I totally agree with this list.